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Svaste
Deadly Alliance Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.07 11:56:00 -
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As documented and bug-reported since the release of Incarna, drones are broken. Specifically they go idle after appearing to obey the command to attack or mine. The long-term drone bug of focus fire not working is also well known.
No acknowledgement from CCP was given on the old forums. I'm posting here to undermine the future "oh we didn't know because that was on the old forums" line that I expect would surface otherwise.
Tell us plainly if this stealth nerf is "functioning as intended" or will be fixed "soon".
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Svaste
Deadly Alliance Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.08 11:18:00 -
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Yeah it's been two months of them pretending not to see this this new thread here or the others on th old forums.
Excellence
Complete the sentence below by filling in the blanks.
Gallente are weak in gunnery because hybrids are worthless. But many Gallente shis have large ________ bays and receive bonuses to _______ hit points and _______ damage.
So if you nerf _____ then you are really telling people not to fly Gallente ships right?
HELLO!!!! Team BFF? Team Fancy Pants? Anyone with pride at CCP want to chime in? |
Svaste
Deadly Alliance Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.12 14:46:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Hey can someone (or preferably some people) post describing exactly what the problem is, how it manifests and any potential repro steps? Gonna stick a defect on Tuxford once I understand the symptoms properly. (Although as is usually the case, until we can figure out how to consistently reproduce the issue it's really difficult to fix it or indeed to tell whether or not it's actually fixed - the more detail we can collect on the exact circumstances under which this is happening, the better chance we have of reproducing it "in the lab".)
bug report 114462
Quote:Drones specifically sentry drones now do not easily follow from one target to the next. Previously before Incarna I could command my drones to engage the next target as soon as the current target was destroyed and they would all engage. Now some all or none will engage unless I spam the command for them to engage. This is similar to the behavior that drones followed when set to aggressive yet were counter ordered manually. The trouble is that passive drones fail to attack the next target on command without being give the order as many as ten times.
// Thanks for taking the time to fill this out. I-¦m attaching your BR to the relevant defect dealing with focus fire and drone target choosing (or the misbehavior thereof)
BH Exsum
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Steps to reproduce
1 Accept mission or find a few ships to destroy some other way.
2 fit five sentry drones
3 undock and verify drones are set to passive leave the drones in space and the drone group expanded
4 fly to mission/targets
5 launch drones and order them to attack a target
6 when that target is destroyed immediately order them to engage another target
7 observe drone icon next to new target
8 observe drones in drone window show engaged in red
9 PROBLEM HERE observe drones go idle and the drone icon dissappear from the target.
More people and their details here > http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1547023 |
Svaste
Deadly Alliance Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 01:21:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Hey can someone (or preferably some people) post describing exactly what the problem is, how it manifests and any potential repro steps? Gonna stick a defect on Tuxford once I understand the symptoms properly. (Although as is usually the case, until we can figure out how to consistently reproduce the issue it's really difficult to fix it or indeed to tell whether or not it's actually fixed - the more detail we can collect on the exact circumstances under which this is happening, the better chance we have of reproducing it "in the lab".)
I hope in the last several days you've read this entire thread and the ones on the old forums. I hope you read the posts in direct reply to your request for more information.
Is it asking too much for you to come back in this thread and report?
We have missed another patch day with no repair of the damage done to drones by Incarna.
Fill this job soon not soonGäó. |
Svaste
Deadly Alliance Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.18 18:07:00 -
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"Good communication and trust between CCP and the EVE community has always been a fundamental priority for CCP and will continue to be so." -Arnar Hrafn Gylfason, Senior Producer of EVE Online
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Svaste
Deadly Alliance Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.22 13:55:00 -
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Today we received the second patch to fix invisible Barbies. Another patch day has come and gone without so much as a word from CCP on the drones issue. We did get one Dev to ask for a reiteration of information that was already posted on the forums and already contained within bug reports. Then nothing since. Nothing. It raises the question: Just how useful are bug reports?
Why is it so hard to answer the question in the OP?
Why did CCP choose to break drones? What was the big GÇ£featureGÇ¥ that was added to FiS that caused drones to go idle?
Why does CCP choose to remain silent on the drones issue?
CCP if you think basic FiS mechanics are lower priority than non-alphanumeric characters in file paths causing inviso-Barbie then you demonstrate an out of touch with the player-base mindset. |
Svaste
Deadly Alliance Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.23 17:09:00 -
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Aelana Anais wrote: [snip]
if we can get dev interest in the problem, we may stand a chance of having them figure it out.
If you have a plan to inspire a CCP Dev to take a small measure of pride in his or her work then I will gladly help.
(assuming of course that the plan is legal, does not violate the EULA, etc)
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Svaste
Deadly Alliance Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.25 15:51:00 -
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"We are listening to you, we have heard you, and plans are already in motion." -Arnar Hrafn Gylfason
Senior Producer of EVE Online
I hope this means drones will be restored to their pre-Incarna functionality. |
Svaste
Deadly Alliance Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.26 15:19:00 -
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Aelana Anais wrote:Svaste wrote:"We are listening to you, we have heard you, and plans are already in motion." -Arnar Hrafn Gylfason
Senior Producer of EVE Online
I hope this means drones will be restored to their pre-Incarna functionality. Most/All of the stuff mentioned in this thread were broken pre-Incarna, the only thing that changed is the frequency.
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Svaste
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.12 00:39:00 -
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"But enough talk from me. We all know that much quoted phrase, GÇ£ItGÇÖs not what you say, itGÇÖs what you do,GÇ¥ that will make the difference here. From now on, CCP will focus on doing what we say and saying what we do. That is the path to restoring trust and moving forward." -Hilmar
Show us that these are not just words.
1. Explain why CCP chose to break drones. What functionality did we gain for what we lost?
2. Examine the drone-breaking code added with Incarna and revert it back to the less broken code before Incarna.
3. At the very least, take the time to read this thread, the threads from the old forums and the bug reports and don't ask us to re-type information already given.
4. Post something. The lack of communication on this issue is unacceptable.
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Svaste
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.21 21:30:00 -
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I have faith that CCP Affinity is on the case and will solve the issue.
I want to thank everyone who read and posted in this thread and the threads on the old forums. I am especially greatful for the videos and those who took the time to spell out how to reproduce the error and filed bug reports.
As I understand it Affinity has confirmed this is not a stealth nerf functioning as intended and has been reproduced on CCP's end to confirm.
IMO Affinity is delivering on the promise in Hilmar's recent letter.
Thank you all. |
Svaste
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:37:00 -
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Quote:Build 304168 to 306979 addresses Patch notes for Incarna 1.1.3
To be released Tuesday, October 25, 2011.
Sadly, the patch notes do not mention drones at all.
http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp |
Svaste
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.25 20:48:00 -
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CCP Affinity wrote:We are still working on this :) We have uncovered an issue, as I mentioned, it is not by design.. but it's going to take more than 3 days to fix and deploy this :)
I'm glad you have been on this for three days. I'll take your coment as confirmation that CCP Greyscale did nothing what-so-ever as we suspected. (oh he was at a conference for one week out of the 15 weeks that drones have been broken)
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Svaste
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.08 15:30:00 -
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126 days and counting since the bug was introduced and reported.
"A lot of the mistakes we made over the summer were known quite well within our community groups, but they were not getting through to the people making the decisions..." -Hilmar
tic toc tic toc |
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