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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.13 12:02:00 -
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Hello,
Its me again, and no I wont go on the long ramble about the project I'm currently working on about turning in a expansion pack sized suggestion about planetary interaction.
Aside from that been wondering if Eve-Online would ever get thier next tier of destroyers.
I looked at the current designs as see one that this class is defined by its ability to defend and escort larger ships from smaller ones, they however suffer from lack of defenses but have awsome firepower comparable to some cruisers but they snap like toothpicks >< I seek to remidey that, but in trade off they loose the aswome firepower instead for thier cruiser like tank.
So sticking with that philosophy I designed 4 destroyers. As I drew them out I also saw the oppertunity to be more escortive with a multirole mix with drones multiple weapon systems and electronic warfare, this yeilded the other 4 designs totalling 8 designs.
Mind you these are very rough sketches and did my best to clean them up short of tracing over with my light box and digitially cleaning it but I'm the other side of the world where my light box and very expensive tablet is stored :(.
Anyways in spirit of my country's elections Im giving you all the same oppertunity make your votes per race for which ones you like, the winner would probably get a make over to spruce it up from the sketch as seen here
(both of deviant art, giving eve-files a break for these large files)
Caldari Pelican Sketch
Caldari Pelican Boosted
Anyways let the voting begin!
A) I like option 1
B) I like option 2
C) I like both options I wanna see them as tier 2 and 3.
D) I dont like your work.
and of course comments are welcomed
Amarr
Salvation
Deliverence
Gallente
Aegis
Artemis
Caldari
Kite
Tyto
Mimatar
Whirlwind
Squall
enjoy.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Do Or Die And Live Or Try
The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.02.13 12:14:00 -
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Very good designs, very well made.
Would love to see those designs in game.
I just have a little "but". The Amarr designs look more like Blood Raider's than Amarr. Take a look upon the Cuoror and Ashummi.
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EmperorPirk
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Posted - 2008.02.13 12:27:00 -
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I really like the Minmatar "Squall" design, and allso the two Caldari and the Artemis is nice too.
if i had to choose only one i'd go for the Squall!
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Amanda Blue
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.13 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Amanda Blue on 13/02/2008 12:36:50
I like the Artemis for Gallente & the Squall for the Minnie. =)
Yeah, the destroyer class Tech 1 definitely needs some love.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.02.13 12:40:00 -
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I like the Whirlwind design.
Anyway, small buff to existing T1 destroyers would be lovely.
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Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.02.13 12:41:00 -
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Love the miniguns on the Squall. Looks freaking awsome!
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.02.13 12:47:00 -
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Both Amarr destroyers look very nice, but personally i'd go for the Deliverence because it looks more unique than the other. 
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.02.13 12:54:00 -
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The Gallente and Minmatar designs would all work well; unfortunately the Caldari and Amarr suggestions don't do it so well for me, because they are too reminiscent of existing ships... and those ships are in entirely different size classes.
The Caldari Kite looks great, but is quite obviously related to the Rorqual - a Minmatar-styled hull developed by Gallente engineers working for the ORE Syndicate. Not much Caldari in there at all 
The Caldari Tyto unfortunately makes me think "cute frigate / tech2 Ibis" every way I try to turn it in my head.
The Amarr Salvation appears to utilize a large part of the Harbinger hull, which isn't bad but sadly much much too large.
And finally, the Amarr Deliverance looks almost exactly like an Ashimmu, a Blood Raider faction cruiser.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.13 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Nova Fox on 13/02/2008 13:11:55
Most of the designs where inspired from existing ships currently eve. Designing in eve and trying to capture the same style with function was difficult for me with restrictions, technique needs alot of work but my lines are a hell lot straighter now using freehand and this makes the perspective sketches more accurate. I may go back and ink these on clean sheets and give each of them thier own sheet of paper until i get access to my tablet back home 4 months from now :(
(these ships where drawn on pairs on the same side)
This makes these the ... uhm I think the 192nd space ship I've uniquely designed (if you toss in variants and 'older' versions its up to the 500s which includes only 1 eve ship). Most of my time is however improving the other 180 that arent related to eve but my own sci fi which I got year long writers block still ><
anywyas design notes:
the tyto was copied form the heron/griffen sorta mix with a light tossin of the condor since its the multrole platform ultilizing guns missiles and jammers to protect fleets. The name is barrowed for a family of owls which is slightly fitting.
the kite was mostly a barrowed design form the rohk (this includes the bridge) but to be the heavy tanking gunship the cormorant could not be. kite for those of you that dont know is a common hawk found in japan
the amarr ships I had little to work with so many of them use the same shape then are cut out of the same shape. ive already got alterantivs for both of these designs on squiggles now with the deliverence having the gun racks further out fleshing the whole design and th salvation having a vertical profile instead.
gallente aegis barrows some apsect from all the drone ships including the nyx, it also stole a chunk from a gallente station for the 'sensor' array. the aretmis was supposed to be the tristans bigger brother.
The minmatar squall Im still trying to figure out where this came from... probably is entirely unique ship as is but im swear there was a mimi ship that i took the shape from for it.
The whirlwind is the hurricane's baby brother. smaller size similar profile, but one thing i did notice was it was missing the solar panels which somehow i left out? meh accidents happen leading to cooler things I guess.
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EmperorPirk
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Posted - 2008.02.13 13:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Nova Fox
Edited by: Nova Fox on 13/02/2008 13:11:55
The minmatar squall Im still trying to figure out where this came from... probably is entirely unique ship as is but im swear there was a mimi ship that i took the shape from for it.
this ship maybe?
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.13 14:06:00 -
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deliverance, aegis, tyto, and squall are my picks :D
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Zen Mehari
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Posted - 2008.02.13 14:52:00 -
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I won't vote per se but I like your designs -they seem to capture the flavour of each race rather well. Some could obviously do with a little polish here and there, but overall well done.
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Andreask14
Alterum - Infinitus - Fabula
Dragons Of Oceans
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Posted - 2008.02.13 15:02:00 -
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The first caldari one and the second minmatar one are passable. The others dont adhere to their race¦s theme and are generally sloppy done. Your lander designs are neat.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.13 23:26:00 -
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I hope you do understand that these ships are very rough sketches and its not to hard to redraw these ships to make it into the other race or redetail them when i dedicate an entire page to them instead of 1/4th of the sheet, also I dont think i was sloppy with any of them cept the squall which i didnt do enough cleaning up on.
Anywya keep the votes comming, I am getting the feeling the caldari ones are 'subpar' from the feedback so far.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.14 15:50:00 -
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The following ships been thrown back to the drawing board
Amarr Salvation (total redesign in the works)
Amarr Deliverence (total redesing in the works)
Gallente Aegis (minor fix here it had to much amarr flair to it)
Caldari Kite (enhancement enroute)
Caldari Tyto (??? lawn ornament?)
All other ships are getting special attention now up to an ink job soon as I find a good ink stick to use.
Meanwhile a toss back from the older thread that used to exist
Amarr Sanctuary
keep the votes comming ill see about getting those redesigns up asap.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.15 08:40:00 -
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Redid the tyto entirely forgot to clean most of it up but it looks good enough for the concept board votes or comments please!
The new Caldari Multirole Teir 2 Destroyer: Tyto
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.17 08:27:00 -
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Working on the destroyers again going though round 2 with all of them after the inital feed back. Right now working on the amarr deliverence and it impresses me a bit now. Most of the non amarr destroyers are staying the same shape cept for the gallente aegis and caldari kite which both are getting some redefining.
Also please vote for the caldari tyto models on which edition you like better.
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HarderThisTime
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Posted - 2008.02.17 09:56:00 -
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These look awesome tbh.
Problem with having tech 2 destroyers is that the tech 1 destroyers are already doing more damage than assault frigates. So we've got a frigate class with no purpose, and adding another frigate class would be kinda wtf.
All in all, with eagles owning the **** out of most all frigates except maybe interceptors, there'd be only one thing for a tech 2 destroyer to do, kill interceptors from a longer range than tech 1 destroyers do.
But I hope they delete the AFs and put in those models you designed, cause they look pimp. :D
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SirFett
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.02.17 11:13:00 -
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looks awesome yeah but
more like a frigate than destroyer ...
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Yuri VanKaer
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Posted - 2008.02.17 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
Aside from that been wondering if Eve-Online would ever get thier next tier of destroyers.
*cough*Interdictors*cough*
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.02.17 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Yuri VanKaer
Originally by: Nova Fox
Aside from that been wondering if Eve-Online would ever get thier next tier of destroyers.
*cough*Interdictors*cough*
*cough*tech 2*cough*
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.17 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Nova Fox on 17/02/2008 12:04:50
Tried my best not to get into to much details to avoid a move to the features and ideas section but since people are getting confused Ill explain it just once and be vauge as possible.
Design Notes:
Current design parameters and aspects I used for designing the fan made ships
Tier 1 destroyers are all about firepower (akin to cruiser)
Tech 2 Tier 1 destroyers are all about Tackle
Tier 2 destroyers are all about defenses (akin to cruiser)
Tier 3 destroyers are all about flexibility fit for gank or tank or spank (ewar) semi-effectivly with all three, but gains show if one or two of the three are dropped
Tech 2 Tier 2 or 3 Light Escort, would help keep other ships alive by providing ewar and counter fire ability (basically destroy a percentage of inbound rounds, missiles and accurate damage drones on selected target, Also possibly a prereq for tech 2 bc 'heavy escort ships' that would be a suggestion for the teir 2 bcs but thats another thread.
Eve doesn't have enough ships that protray defensive and holding the line tatics, its all gank gank gank gank.
The tech 2s where supposed to create a defensive ability to preserve other more expensive ships longer such as flagships or commandships on the field and hopefully prolong battles.
Anyways the new deliverence is done waiting on upload and scan. I hope you enjoy the new amarr destroyer tank when i get it uploaded.
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Taniv
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.02.17 12:47:00 -
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I like most of your sketches, but the one that really stands out to me is the Tyto B. I don't fly Caldari, but that is a sexy looking ship, and really feels like a destroyer to me.
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.17 12:50:00 -
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Tyto A looks more like a Destroyer, but both models really look more like frigates.
A Tier2 ship allways looks a bit more powerfull and bigger than the Tier1 part.
Nice drawings anyway :)
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Princess Kyky
Caldari
Roid Vandals
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Posted - 2008.02.17 14:01:00 -
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tyto A looks like a probe o.0
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.17 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Nova Fox on 17/02/2008 15:09:15
New and highly very muchly improved amarr destoyers, the salvation however doenst look all that good imo.
After hearing that people think these are frigate got to understand most destroyers are just oversized friates to begin with however im putting in size comparison for now on to show the scaled differences.
New Deliverence
New Slavation
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.18 11:03:00 -
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Bump, working on more on the kite, liking the new dibs so far. I got a retrace of the newer salvation done and going to start inking it.
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Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.18 11:43:00 -
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deliverance B looks really great!
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The Herrick
Gallente
Bumsax United
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Posted - 2008.02.18 12:34:00 -
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I want the first Tyto design, that looks awesome.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.02.18 13:10:00 -
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The re-designed Tyto, Salvation and Deliverance look good... though the Salvation is one heck of a burly brute now 
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