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Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.02.29 12:56:00 - [271] Originally by: Yashim Vask Edited by: Yashim Vask on 29/02/2008 12:42:32 Originally by: Ki An Edited by: Ki An on 29/02/2008 08:54:26 Names or stfu. I want to know the names because I want to wardec you and test your combat corp's prowess. How do you deal with people smacking behind the safety of alts? Originally by: Postlatta Mouseanon Oh, and as an end note: Yes I know this is an alt- thank you. And no, I don't care what you think. See you in Space, ok Pookie? Ok. Pookie, I want to hear the name of your main. If you're going to talk tough, do it so that you can face the consequences, or your post will be disregarded as alt smacktalking. Ki An,For your amusement: Postlattamouseanon is Alt of Pelf Matagraph who is member of ASWP mining transport guild.1 man corp.He is alt of founder I think.Who is founder? look for charcter: Togotchen Renamour and D'insanse Shatner. look at their employment history.look at corps.Same as Pelf Matagon???Same CEO?Same look to bios and typing style as in forum post?yes? Maybe they know who he is? Thank you. I am not a good detective, as I'm quite stupid, so this really helps. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Yashim Vask	Posted - 2008.02.29 14:43:00 - [272] Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Yashim Vask Edited by: Yashim Vask on 29/02/2008 12:42:32 Originally by: Ki An Edited by: Ki An on 29/02/2008 08:54:26 Names or stfu. I want to know the names because I want to wardec you and test your combat corp's prowess. How do you deal with people smacking behind the safety of alts? Originally by: Postlatta Mouseanon Oh, and as an end note: Yes I know this is an alt- thank you. And no, I don't care what you think. See you in Space, ok Pookie? Ok. Pookie, I want to hear the name of your main. If you're going to talk tough, do it so that you can face the consequences, or your post will be disregarded as alt smacktalking. Ki An,For your amusement: Postlattamouseanon is Alt of Pelf Matagraph who is member of ASWP mining transport guild.1 man corp.He is alt of founder I think.Who is founder? look for charcter: Togotchen Renamour and D'insanse Shatner. look at their employment history.look at corps.Same as Pelf Matagon???Same CEO?Same look to bios and typing style as in forum post?yes? Maybe they know who he is? Thank you. I am not a good detective, as I'm quite stupid, so this really helps. proof of link between pelf matagraph and postlattamouseanon- http://www.eve-search.com/thread/611451/page/1#5 bears always leave crumbs
MushMush Minmatar The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.03.01 11:56:00 - [273] Edited by: MushMush on 01/03/2008 11:56:33 Okay so at the moment the CCP say this is legal But at least give us some visual cue in local, perhaps a giant yellow streak down the middle of all their ships. That way before I interact with them I will know I am dealing with a complete coward
Brother Welcome Amarr Icarus' Wings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.01 13:04:00 - [274] Originally by: Esswer Loc Edited by: Esswer Loc on 15/02/2008 11:44:41 Face the danger, don't bail the corps just because you are war-decced. I'm neutral on this, but against hypocrisy. The 'face the danger' argument can be applied on the other side, as in: 'Face the danger, fight someone who wants to fight you.' Better yet, fight someone bigger and stronger than you. Eve-online, the game that rewards bullying. Yay! -vk
Nexa Neci5 THE REALLY AWESOME PLAYERS.	Posted - 2008.03.01 13:44:00 - [275] Originally by: Brother Welcome Originally by: Esswer Loc Edited by: Esswer Loc on 15/02/2008 11:44:41 Face the danger, don't bail the corps just because you are war-decced. I'm neutral on this, but against hypocrisy. The 'face the danger' argument can be applied on the other side, as in: 'Face the danger, fight someone who wants to fight you.' Better yet, fight someone bigger and stronger than you. Eve-online, the game that rewards bullying. Yay! -vk Well done 'tard. Your crap alliance is now on our 'to do' list.
Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.01 15:19:00 - [276] Originally by: Nexa Neci5 our 'to do' list. Our? How many players are in your one-man corp? Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles V.I.R.A.L.	Posted - 2008.03.01 17:27:00 - [277] Edited by: ViolenTUK on 01/03/2008 17:31:23 Originally by: Ki An Originally by: Nexa Neci5 our 'to do' list. Our? How many players are in your one-man corp? Note Nexa Neci5 rather than Nexa Necis. An Alt created to track down corporation hoppers. Also note THE REALLY AWESOME PLAYERS. An alt corporation. www.eve-players.com
Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.01 18:05:00 - [278] Originally by: ViolenTUK Note Nexa Neci5 rather than Nexa Necis. An Alt created to track down corporation hoppers. Also note THE REALLY AWESOME PLAYERS. An alt corporation. No, this alt is created to make TRAPS look bad on forums. He has nothing to do with TRAPS. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
MushMush Minmatar The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.03.01 19:53:00 - [279] Edited by: MushMush on 01/03/2008 19:53:31 Confirmed Nexa Nexci5 has nothing to do with TRAPS. But that said imitation is the highest form of flattery, so I assume its some sort of fanboi or girl
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles V.I.R.A.L.	Posted - 2008.03.01 20:04:00 - [280] Originally by: MushMush Edited by: MushMush on 01/03/2008 19:53:31 Confirmed Nexa Nexci5 has nothing to do with TRAPS. But that said imitation is the highest form of flattery, so I assume its some sort of fanboi or girl www.eve-players.com
Tiny Tom	Posted - 2008.03.02 01:26:00 - [281] Originally by: Nexa Necis They assign no roles so they can jump ship immediately. While I think the corp-jumping mechanic is broken, I'd like to offer one thought: it does carry some risk. If the corp doesn't have any roles, it is may be extremely vulnerable to theft. If the hoppers are recuriting, it might be worth getting an alt enrolled. Going forward, if you're scoping a target that looks likely to apply this tactic, you might want to enroll the alt first.
Jack Jombardo Amarr	Posted - 2008.03.02 02:42:00 - [282] Wannabe Pirate decs Miner Corp as he supose they are easy kills without risk. Wannabe Pirate in his one man corp uses the game mechanics to wardec much weker targets. Wannabe Pirate whine like a baby becouse the Miners do the same - use all mechinics of the game to avoid PvP. One man corps shouldn't be allowed! Minimum of 7 accounts are needed to creat a corp (not chars, real accounts!)! Na, not realy, but this one man wannabe Pirate stuff should be diabled somehow. They do not like PvP. So live with it and dec a PvP corp ..... but it seams you are to weak and whine for it
Luigi Thirty Caldari 19th Star Logistics	Posted - 2008.03.02 04:41:00 - [283] Hasn't this been illegal since day one? ---- DOMINIX IS ~~INVINCIBLE~~BLUE:((((
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.03.02 07:13:00 - [284] Originally by: Jack Jombardo Wannabe Pirate decs Miner Corp as he supose they are easy kills without risk. Wannabe Pirate in his one man corp uses the game mechanics to wardec much weker targets. Wannabe Pirate whine like a baby becouse the Miners do the same - use all mechinics of the game to avoid PvP. One man corps shouldn't be allowed! Minimum of 7 accounts are needed to creat a corp (not chars, real accounts!)! Na, not realy, but this one man wannabe Pirate stuff should be diabled somehow. They do not like PvP. So live with it and dec a PvP corp ..... but it seams you are to weak and whine for it What pray tell is a real pirate?
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.03.02 15:44:00 - [285] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin What pray tell is a real pirate? I have come to the conclusion that a "real pirate" is anyone not killing the person using the term "real pirate". So if you were to ever kill Jack Jombardo, he would say you're not a real pirate. Everyone else is a "real pirate" though. Of course if you kill him in low sec or 0.0 you still will not be a "real pirate". He might call you a real pirate only if you kill his battleship with a frigate. At that point you might still not be considered a "real pirate". At that point you will likely be petitioned for cheating because everyone knows you cannot kill a armor and hull repping Armageddon with shield boosting as backup.
Brother Welcome Amarr Icarus' Wings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.02 16:38:00 - [286] Originally by: Nexa Neci5 Originally by: Brother Welcome Originally by: Esswer Loc Edited by: Esswer Loc on 15/02/2008 11:44:41 Face the danger, don't bail the corps just because you are war-decced. I'm neutral on this, but against hypocrisy. The 'face the danger' argument can be applied on the other side, as in: 'Face the danger, fight someone who wants to fight you.' Better yet, fight someone bigger and stronger than you. Eve-online, the game that rewards bullying. Yay! -vk Well done 'tard. Your crap alliance is now on our 'to do' list. Heh. When I first played Eve I failed to understand the premise of the game and hated being ganked. I found it especially hard to understand podding, since (absent bounties) podding offered no reward (other than satisfaction) and just hurt the other player. Now that I understand Eve better, I have come to see that its mechanics press players into 'bully' calculations. 'Bully' is one of the classic configurations described under game theory. My opinion is that Eve is misdesigned in this respect, and would be a 'better' game if it explored other areas of the available space. In this context I define 'better' as more fun and more varied. A basic sense of irony will permit you to understand that carebears using a sploit to dodge wardecs is amusing, and a basic sense of rhetoric will permit you to see that 'face the danger', if it is to be entered in the debate, must withstand looking at itself in the mirror. My opinions are my own, not my alliance's, but as a PvPer I will fight you as occasion demands. I will also endeavour to ignore smack and treat my opponents with honour. -vk
Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.03.02 23:04:00 - [287] Originally by: Brother Welcome Heh. When I first played Eve I failed to understand the premise of the game and hated being ganked. I found it especially hard to understand podding, since (absent bounties) podding offered no reward (other than satisfaction) and just hurt the other player. Now that I understand Eve better, I have come to see that its mechanics press players into 'bully' calculations. 'Bully' is one of the classic configurations described under game theory. My opinion is that Eve is misdesigned in this respect, and would be a 'better' game if it explored other areas of the available space. In this context I define 'better' as more fun and more varied. A basic sense of irony will permit you to understand that carebears using a sploit to dodge wardecs is amusing, and a basic sense of rhetoric will permit you to see that 'face the danger', if it is to be entered in the debate, must withstand looking at itself in the mirror. My opinions are my own, not my alliance's, but as a PvPer I will fight you as occasion demands. I will also endeavour to ignore smack and treat my opponents with honour. -vk I doubt you're really worried about it, but again for those who might connect Nexa Neci5 in THE REALLY AWESOME PLAYERS. with Nexa Necis in The Really Awesome Players, the former has nothing to do with the latter. Nexa Neci5 is most probably the alt of a bitter member of a former TRAPS victim out to soil TRAPS' good name on the forums. This is what happens to people when they don't stand up for themselves. They grow bitter and then try to be funny, but only end up being amusingly bitter. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2008.03.03 10:52:00 - [288] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Originally by: Jack Jombardo Wannabe Pirate decs Miner Corp as he supose they are easy kills without risk. Wannabe Pirate in his one man corp uses the game mechanics to wardec much weker targets. Wannabe Pirate whine like a baby becouse the Miners do the same - use all mechinics of the game to avoid PvP. One man corps shouldn't be allowed! Minimum of 7 accounts are needed to creat a corp (not chars, real accounts!)! Na, not realy, but this one man wannabe Pirate stuff should be diabled somehow. They do not like PvP. So live with it and dec a PvP corp ..... but it seams you are to weak and whine for it What pray tell is a real pirate? Capt Jack Sparrow from that goofy movie. He's a real pirate. And, he's cooler than a ninja. -- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk." Yes. Yes I am.
Ja'kar MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.03 16:52:00 - [289] Edited by: Ja''kar on 03/03/2008 16:55:13 The 'face the danger' argument can be applied on the other side, as in: 'Face the danger, fight someone who wants to fight you.' people like you are sooo completely dumb- you really make me sick to the core and it people like you that have ruined this game - How about this you signed up for a hardcore pvp game - deal with it and if ur an indy corp - hire some pvp's or something - but no, instead you whine and cheat! you stupid f-ing idiot - leave eve and go play WOW Also - piracy is not about fighting fair - its about profit - how you get profit is up to you... MAFIA Website
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles	Posted - 2008.03.04 17:29:00 - [290] Originally by: Ja'kar How about this you signed up for a hardcore pvp game - deal with it No we didn't. It does seem that there are players playing eve and contributing to these forums that may have lost sight of what exactly players signed up for when they signed up for eve online. I will quote some parts of the players guide available from the main website. HOW IS EVE ONLINE DIFFERENT? One could compare this to the difference between a playground, such as EVE, and a theme park, which would be the traditional MMOG. In a playground you have access to different kinds of toys and rides, and you are allowed to use your own imagination to figure out how to create games you enjoy. In a theme park all the rides have been created for you and are either good or bad by design. The playground clearly offers more freedom but it requires you to think and be an active participant, while the theme park has taken those responsibilities away from you and you can just go with the flow. THE GOAL The ultimate goal in EVE is power. It can be power over the market, military dominance, financial power, or political power. These are all achievable in EVE at degrees varying from local system, regional level, or even universe-wide. EVE caters to many different play styles, ranging from the hard core combat commander to the patient miner, and there are corporations that have very different goals; most require all types of players to function properly, so no matter what type of player you are, there is a place for you in EVE, even if you decide to carve it out yourself ACQUIRING WEALTH Interstellar Kredits (or ISK) is the currency in the world of EVE. There are many ways to earn ISK, and this is just a sample of the more common ones, but players have found other ingenious ways that are beyond the scope of this manual. Most players elect to use a combination of some or all of these tactics to keep things fresh and fun. 1.Mining 2.NPC hunting 3.Bounty hunting 4.Agent Missions 5.Research Agents 6.Production 7.Trading 8.Pirating 9.Deadspace Complexes This is what people signed up for when they signed up for eve. You may notice there is NO reference to eve being a hardcore pvp game. You may note under methods possible to acquire isk pirating is just 1 of 9 methods mentioned. Possibly the most poignant reference in the player guide is that ôEVE caters to many different play styles, ranging from the hard core combat commander to the patient miner, and there are corporations that have very different goals; most require all types of players to function properly, so no matter what type of player you are, there is a place for you in EVE, even if you decide to carve it out yourselfö. I believe that the player guide speaks for itself and should serve, as a reminder that eve is whatever we want it to be. I can mine and run missions in empire or I can choose to be a pvp pilot. The choice is mine and solely that. References: http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/ www.eve-players.com
Nexa Neci5 THE REALLY AWESOME PLAYERS.	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:16:00 - [291] Originally by: ViolenTUK Originally by: Ja'kar How about this you signed up for a hardcore pvp game - deal with it No we didn't. It does seem that there are players playing eve and contributing to these forums that may have lost sight of what exactly players signed up for when they signed up for eve online. I will quote some parts of the players guide available from the main website. HOW IS EVE ONLINE DIFFERENT? One could compare this to the difference between a playground, such as EVE, and a theme park, which would be the traditional MMOG. In a playground you have access to different kinds of toys and rides, and you are allowed to use your own imagination to figure out how to create games you enjoy. In a theme park all the rides have been created for you and are either good or bad by design. The playground clearly offers more freedom but it requires you to think and be an active participant, while the theme park has taken those responsibilities away from you and you can just go with the flow. THE GOAL The ultimate goal in EVE is power. It can be power over the market, military dominance, financial power, or political power. These are all achievable in EVE at degrees varying from local system, regional level, or even universe-wide. EVE caters to many different play styles, ranging from the hard core combat commander to the patient miner, and there are corporations that have very different goals; most require all types of players to function properly, so no matter what type of player you are, there is a place for you in EVE, even if you decide to carve it out yourself ACQUIRING WEALTH Interstellar Kredits (or ISK) is the currency in the world of EVE. There are many ways to earn ISK, and this is just a sample of the more common ones, but players have found other ingenious ways that are beyond the scope of this manual. Most players elect to use a combination of some or all of these tactics to keep things fresh and fun. 1.Mining 2.NPC hunting 3.Bounty hunting 4.Agent Missions 5.Research Agents 6.Production 7.Trading 8.Pirating 9.Deadspace Complexes This is what people signed up for when they signed up for eve. You may notice there is NO reference to eve being a hardcore pvp game. You may note under methods possible to acquire isk pirating is just 1 of 9 methods mentioned. Possibly the most poignant reference in the player guide is that ôEVE caters to many different play styles, ranging from the hard core combat commander to the patient miner, and there are corporations that have very different goals; most require all types of players to function properly, so no matter what type of player you are, there is a place for you in EVE, even if you decide to carve it out yourselfö. I believe that the player guide speaks for itself and should serve, as a reminder that eve is whatever we want it to be. I can mine and run missions in empire or I can choose to be a pvp pilot. The choice is mine and solely that. References: http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/ Can I have your stuff 'tard?
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:28:00 - [292] Originally by: Nexa Neci5 Can I have your stuff 'tard? Do you really want to be the type of person who says things like this? I'd thought you were a cut above this and would like to think you made the comment in an ill advised moment. Windjammer
Aslovi Caldari Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:31:00 - [293] Originally by: Windjammer Originally by: Nexa Neci5 Can I have your stuff 'tard? Do you really want to be the type of person who says things like this? I'd thought you were a cut above this and would like to think you made the comment in an ill advised moment. Windjammer AGAIN for those that haven't read the whole post, Nexa Neci5 is not Nexa Necis from TRAPS, this guy is just trying to make the real Nexa look bad. Aslovi IMAGE REMOVED!!!! :(
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:46:00 - [294] Originally by: Nexa Neci5 Can I have your stuff 'tard? Nexa Necis wouldn't make a comment like that even if Nexa NeciS disagreed. This forum alt troll needs to have their forum posting permissions removed. www.eve-players.com
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:07:00 - [295] Originally by: Aslovi Originally by: Windjammer Originally by: Nexa Neci5 Can I have your stuff 'tard? Do you really want to be the type of person who says things like this? I'd thought you were a cut above this and would like to think you made the comment in an ill advised moment. Windjammer AGAIN for those that haven't read the whole post, Nexa Neci5 is not Nexa Necis from TRAPS, this guy is just trying to make the real Nexa look bad. Aslovi I stand, gladly, corrected. Thank you to the two posters for the correction. Best regards, Windjammer
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:16:00 - [296] Originally by: ViolenTUK Originally by: Nexa Neci5 Can I have your stuff 'tard? Nexa Necis wouldn't make a comment like that even if Nexa NeciS disagreed. This forum alt troll needs to have their forum posting permissions removed. I agree. This is an imposter using the font of the forums in such a way that it is a virtual forgery of Nexa Necis' name and represents indentity theft. If I were Nexa, I would petition this with reference to these specific posts. CCP has more than enough evidence here to justify a ban. Regards, Windjammer
M'ing Pai The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:56:00 - [297] Originally by: ViolenTUK Possibly the most poignant reference in the player guide is that ôEVE caters to many different play styles, ranging from the hard core combat commander to the patient miner, and there are corporations that have very different goals; most require all types of players to function properly, so no matter what type of player you are, there is a place for you in EVE, even if you decide to carve it out yourselfö. I believe that the player guide speaks for itself and should serve, as a reminder that eve is whatever we want it to be. I can mine and run missions in empire or I can choose to be a pvp pilot. The choice is mine and solely that. Actually, the most poignant reference I noted in your snippet was the following: THE GOAL The ultimate goal in EVE is power. It can be power over the market, military dominance, financial power, or political power. These are all achievable in EVE at degrees varying from local system, regional level, or even universe-wide. EVE caters to many different play styles, ranging from the hard core combat commander to the patient miner, and there are corporations that have very different goals; most require all types of players to function properly, so no matter what type of player you are, there is a place for you in EVE, even if you decide to carve it out yourself You see, the goal of Eve is power and dominance. When you acquire power in this game, you paint a big bullseye on yourself for others in your area who want that same power. This is a multi-player game, and so everything you do here has an effect on those around you. It is correct: no matter what type of player you are, there is a place for you in EVE, even if that place happens to be underneath the heel of my boot. Those people who think this isn't a hardcore PVP game are kidding themselves. The goal of this game is power, and the mechanics of the game allow for the wholesale slaughter of the weak. Corporations with no plan for their defense other than the foolish hope that no one will want to shoot at them are lopsided organizations that deserve to suffer for their one-dimensional thinking, imho.
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles	Posted - 2008.03.04 20:55:00 - [298] Originally by: M'ing Pai Corporations with no plan for their defense other than the foolish hope that no one will want to shoot at them are lopsided organizations that deserve to suffer for their one-dimensional thinking, imho. ôDeserve to sufferö is an opinion and one I donÆt share. ôLiable to suffer through lack of variation and ignoranceö may be closer to many organizations within eve. I do acknowledge comment ôfoolish hope that no one will want to shoot at themö. This could be an all to common thought for many industrial type corporation leaders. It is irrelevant if the corporation members are aware of the dangers for them within eve or even if they are unaware, they are at risk from a war declaration at any time. I agree it would be foolish to think that they would never be at risk. www.eve-players.com
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.03.04 22:10:00 - [299] Just a minor update, I am still decing them with my alt, and they have got through 14 corp jumps in about 1 months time. On a side note to all the complainers who say "go pick on someone who wants to fight" and "stop picking on newb corps", well one of the splinter corps we dec'd decided to join an alliance. I guess they figured we would run or be scared off. Of course that wasn't the case, and we laid a healthy beating on the alliance. They went from approximately 400 members down to about 50 members. Of course none of the corps that left the alliance will say it's because of the war, they all said it was preplanned. Funny how that happens nearly every time we fight an alliance. It illustrates the attitudes a lot of the players have. First it's brashness and bravado. Then it goes to anger. Then to denial. Then to quit the alliance or quit the corp altogether. They figure alliance=safety, alliance=numbers, alliance=death and really it's nothing but a facade. I talked to one of the alliance players the other night, informing him we will be decing his corp since he split from the alliance. He asked why. I said, well your alliance decided to help our enemies and kill my corpmates, do you think I would let it go so easily? His responses ranged from, "But you killed us more than we killed you", "We never wanted to fight", "We never knew of a war", which once his rationale failed, resorted to smarty pants comments and taunts in local. They think they can do anything they want and suffer no repercussions simply because the situation doesn't suit them. This was a case of picking on someone who wanted to fight, and when the fight failed to go the way they expected, they feel they should be let off the hook because they no longer have the desire to fight. You can't have your cake and eat it to.
Aslovi Caldari Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.04 22:26:00 - [300] Good to hear things are going well Nexa, I got a reply to my petetion of the guys we had corp jumping. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, Leaving a corporation and joining a new one is not an exploit and never will be. Excessively doing this is against the rules though, each case is investigated on a case by case basis. The GM responsible will take action based upon his findings this will be between us and them you will not be told of any action we have taken or not taken. Best Regards, GM Faolchu EVE Online Customer Support --------------------------------------------------------------------- And in fact they didn't jump again after I got that message, so not sure why your lot managed to jump 14 times. Maybe CCP should just make a decision on this issue so we can get on with killing targets. Aslovi IMAGE REMOVED!!!! :(

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