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Dimitry Kalashnikov
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2008.02.15 23:38:00 -
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I'm a bit conflicted when it comes to employment history. When flying with my original character, I had a hard time picking a fight because he was from '05 and thus people presumed "OMG HIGH SP! AVOID OR DIE!". Before I continue let me state a few things in my own defence.
-I am aware that SP does not equal skill -I am aware that not everyone reacts in this manner -I am aware that there are many people which started before '05
Now thats out of the way, frankly, I've been through enough PvP ops with TONS of different people and see the reactions people express when they see a presumed high SP character. It's either a) Engage with a big gang or b) Run. Of course some people engage, there are exceptions to all rules.
Personally I believe that if we remove the dates on employment history it would be better for PvP. I realize that reasons of recruitment, employment history dates are important, but maybe they can be somehow provided at the player's discretion via ingame means? Now this is just a sketch idea and I haven't thought it through completely and it's sure to have holes and such so please don't spaz out. I also thinks this adds somewhat of a bigger challange to PvP, because you don't know what to expect as much. ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun! |

Mwng
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Posted - 2008.02.15 23:48:00 -
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Personally I quite enjoy the "OMG HIGH SP! AVOID OR DIE!" mentality, as I started a trial account just over a year ago and have recently started it up again. Meaning I have a very long employment history but very few skill points. Keeps me out of loads of trouble. Although I may have just ruined that by posting here.
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Robert0288
Caldari g guild Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.02.15 23:57:00 -
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I got a summer of 2003 charecter, and I've seen a caracal run from my ibis of d00m :)
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agent apple
Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.16 00:20:00 -
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GTC and toon sales ****** employment histories a long time ago. Used to be worth paying attention to, now buying your way ingame is so much a part of the game noobs start playing eve thinking ebay is a legal way to do it.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.02.16 00:33:00 -
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Agent apple was once a shaven 23 year old nympho...but she sold her char to this lard ass wannabe graphics artist
Hey apple 
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.02.16 01:18:00 -
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I'd love to see employment history erased to be honest. Leaves more things up to chance
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Aprudena Gist
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.16 01:39:00 -
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employment history should be erase if a paied character transfer is done.
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Dimitry Kalashnikov
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2008.02.16 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudena Gist employment history should be erase if a paied character transfer is done.
Now THAT I agree with. I purchased this character (with isk) and did the character transfer and now everyone thinks I was was dumb enough to join Goonswarm.  ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun! |

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.02.16 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov
Originally by: Aprudena Gist employment history should be erase if a paied character transfer is done.
Now THAT I agree with. I purchased this character (with isk) and did the character transfer and now everyone thinks I was was dumb enough to join Goonswarm. 
Don't hate on the fo fo fo
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Daanika
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Posted - 2008.02.16 05:32:00 -
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Tbh, if a toon is over say, 6 mos. old I worry more about which ship they're flying. You can only train a cruiser so far, for example... an 8 month toon could have the same skill point allocation as someone brandishing a big, scary '2003' on their employment history. After that it's RL skill, fitting and of course, huge massive balls.
For me, employment history is used more for deciding that the 4 month toon ratting in a rohk (armor tanked, no less) would be fun to attack with my rifter. 
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Redglare's Demise
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.02.16 06:04:00 -
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I like employment.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.02.16 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Redglare's Demise I like employment.
I don't like that little list that says where I have been though
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Karlemgne
Flying Under the Influence
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Posted - 2008.02.16 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov I'm a bit conflicted when it comes to employment history. When flying with my original character, I had a hard time picking a fight because he was from '05 and thus people presumed "OMG HIGH SP! AVOID OR DIE!". Before I continue let me state a few things in my own defence.
-I am aware that SP does not equal skill -I am aware that not everyone reacts in this manner -I am aware that there are many people which started before '05
Now thats out of the way, frankly, I've been through enough PvP ops with TONS of different people and see the reactions people express when they see a presumed high SP character. It's either a) Engage with a big gang or b) Run. Of course some people engage, there are exceptions to all rules.
Personally I believe that if we remove the dates on employment history it would be better for PvP. I realize that reasons of recruitment, employment history dates are important, but maybe they can be somehow provided at the player's discretion via ingame means? Now this is just a sketch idea and I haven't thought it through completely and it's sure to have holes and such so please don't spaz out. I also thinks this adds somewhat of a bigger challange to PvP, because you don't know what to expect as much.
/signed
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.02.16 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Robert0288 I got a summer of 2003 charecter, and I've seen a caracal run from my ibis of d00m :)
Hahaha 
EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki |

Brother Priad
Fluffy Bunny Killers
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Posted - 2008.02.16 09:06:00 -
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Id like to erase one bit of my history, the first time i made my corp, wish i noticed i spelt Fluffy - Fluffly, urgh...
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Khul Drukath
Maelstrom Crew Mournival Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.16 10:05:00 -
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Maybe employment history should only be revealed when you make an app to join a corp. Who else really needs to know?
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Karlemgne
Flying Under the Influence
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Posted - 2008.02.16 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Khul Drukath Maybe employment history should only be revealed when you make an app to join a corp. Who else really needs to know?
Don't get me wrong, I think this is a great idea. That it hasn't come up before this is actually shocking.
But, roleplayers will *****. And I think of one thing its good for, spotting potential alts.
-Karlemgne
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K'racker
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Posted - 2008.02.16 10:22:00 -
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employment history is pretty far down the list of things to check if you're worrying about engaging someone. right in there with their bio.. ;p better off paying attention to flight characteristics if they're on grid with you, or pounding the scanner for ship type.
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hilaw
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Posted - 2008.02.16 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov OMG HIGH SP! AVOID OR DIE!"
3 Interceptor Pilots met my lone af, they didn't even stop to look at what I was flying, they just got out Can we just have the last year on public display?
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Dimitry Kalashnikov
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2008.02.16 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: K'racker employment history is pretty far down the list of things to check if you're worrying about engaging someone. right in there with their bio.. ;p better off paying attention to flight characteristics if they're on grid with you, or pounding the scanner for ship type.
You see you're right, you SHOULD be looking at flight characteristics and ship type. Unfortunately, thats not always the case. People usually just Right Click + Show Info then dock. ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun! |

Elles D
Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.02.16 14:29:00 -
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Apparently people lag when seeing my employment history.... Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

PaRaZiTuRL
Amarr Raging Phoenix
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Posted - 2008.02.16 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: PaRaZiTuRL on 16/02/2008 14:36:39
Originally by: Elles D Apparently people lag when seeing my employment history....
Hahaha, i hate when you got 3 pages of history. Talk about undecided. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes :(( come on, it was about bunnies and lasers :D.Eve lazers.Will change |

Elles D
Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.02.16 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: PaRaZiTuRL Edited by: PaRaZiTuRL on 16/02/2008 14:36:39
Originally by: Elles D Apparently people lag when seeing my employment history....
Hahaha, i hate when you got 3 pages of history. Talk about undecided.
I just have, insecurity issues..... Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.16 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudena Gist employment history should be erase if a paied character transfer is done.
Good idea.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Chuck Skull
BBK Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.16 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudena Gist employment history should be erase if a paied character transfer is done.
Great idea.
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Also available in 'sober' |

Khul Drukath
Maelstrom Crew Mournival Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.16 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: K'racker employment history is pretty far down the list of things to check if you're worrying about engaging someone. right in there with their bio..
What?! You attack people with skulls in their bio? Dear God man... 
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.16 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Daanika Tbh, if a toon is over say, 6 mos. old I worry more about which ship they're flying. You can only train a cruiser so far, for example... an 8 month toon could have the same skill point allocation as someone brandishing a big, scary '2003' on their employment history. After that it's RL skill, fitting and of course, huge massive balls.
For me, employment history is used more for deciding that the 4 month toon ratting in a rohk (armor tanked, no less) would be fun to attack with my rifter. 

Yes, Warping in on an abaddon with a stabber is priceless... wish I hadn't lost my point like a noob 
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Originally by: Praxis1452 you win eve
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Elienee
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Posted - 2008.02.16 22:54:00 -
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Only corp thief's, corp grievers, and extreme PVP oriented characters want to remove the employment history. Its a great tool to see what a player have been up to. Its also a telltale on those who jump to NPC corps, when their corp get wardeced (this seems to apply too both carebears and lowsec pirates). |

Dimitry Kalashnikov
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2008.02.16 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Elienee Only corp thief's, corp grievers, and extreme PVP oriented characters want to remove the employment history. Its a great tool to see what a player have been up to. Its also a telltale on those who jump to NPC corps, when their corp get wardeced (this seems to apply too both carebears and lowsec pirates).
Hence the reason it was suggested that corp history only show to the corp you've applied to or are planning to apply to through some ingame feature. That is the sole reason for Corp History, simply as part of the recruitment process. It's just used by others as a means of determining whether or not you should engage the pilot (and its not even accurate, mostly based on assumption). It's the same as how people are asking to have local removed because people use it as a method of detection. ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun! |

Cpt Branko
Surge. Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.02.17 03:46:00 -
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Employment history is a awesome tool for gang spotting, etc, especially if you remember who's friends with who and such things.
Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
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