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Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.15 23:38:00 - [1] I'm a bit conflicted when it comes to employment history. When flying with my original character, I had a hard time picking a fight because he was from '05 and thus people presumed "OMG HIGH SP! AVOID OR DIE!". Before I continue let me state a few things in my own defence. -I am aware that SP does not equal skill -I am aware that not everyone reacts in this manner -I am aware that there are many people which started before '05 Now thats out of the way, frankly, I've been through enough PvP ops with TONS of different people and see the reactions people express when they see a presumed high SP character. It's either a) Engage with a big gang or b) Run. Of course some people engage, there are exceptions to all rules. Personally I believe that if we remove the dates on employment history it would be better for PvP. I realize that reasons of recruitment, employment history dates are important, but maybe they can be somehow provided at the player's discretion via ingame means? Now this is just a sketch idea and I haven't thought it through completely and it's sure to have holes and such so please don't spaz out. I also thinks this adds somewhat of a bigger challange to PvP, because you don't know what to expect as much. ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun!
Mwng	Posted - 2008.02.15 23:48:00 - [2] Personally I quite enjoy the "OMG HIGH SP! AVOID OR DIE!" mentality, as I started a trial account just over a year ago and have recently started it up again. Meaning I have a very long employment history but very few skill points. Keeps me out of loads of trouble. Although I may have just ruined that by posting here.
Robert0288 Caldari g guild Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.15 23:57:00 - [3] I got a summer of 2003 charecter, and I've seen a caracal run from my ibis of d00m :)
agent apple Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.16 00:20:00 - [4] GTC and toon sales ****** employment histories a long time ago. Used to be worth paying attention to, now buying your way ingame is so much a part of the game noobs start playing eve thinking ebay is a legal way to do it.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Omniscient Order	Posted - 2008.02.16 00:33:00 - [5] Agent apple was once a shaven 23 year old nympho...but she sold her char to this lard ass wannabe graphics artist Hey apple
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.16 01:18:00 - [6] I'd love to see employment history erased to be honest. Leaves more things up to chance
Aprudena Gist Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.16 01:39:00 - [7] employment history should be erase if a paied character transfer is done.
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.16 01:49:00 - [8] Originally by: Aprudena Gist employment history should be erase if a paied character transfer is done. Now THAT I agree with. I purchased this character (with isk) and did the character transfer and now everyone thinks I was was dumb enough to join Goonswarm. ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun!
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.16 02:03:00 - [9] Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Originally by: Aprudena Gist employment history should be erase if a paied character transfer is done. Now THAT I agree with. I purchased this character (with isk) and did the character transfer and now everyone thinks I was was dumb enough to join Goonswarm. Don't hate on the fo fo fo
Daanika	Posted - 2008.02.16 05:32:00 - [10] Tbh, if a toon is over say, 6 mos. old I worry more about which ship they're flying. You can only train a cruiser so far, for example... an 8 month toon could have the same skill point allocation as someone brandishing a big, scary '2003' on their employment history. After that it's RL skill, fitting and of course, huge massive balls. For me, employment history is used more for deciding that the 4 month toon ratting in a rohk (armor tanked, no less) would be fun to attack with my rifter.
Redglare's Demise Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.02.16 06:04:00 - [11] I like employment.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.16 06:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Redglare's Demise I like employment. I don't like that little list that says where I have been though
Karlemgne Flying Under the Influence	Posted - 2008.02.16 07:19:00 - [13] Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov I'm a bit conflicted when it comes to employment history. When flying with my original character, I had a hard time picking a fight because he was from '05 and thus people presumed "OMG HIGH SP! AVOID OR DIE!". Before I continue let me state a few things in my own defence. -I am aware that SP does not equal skill -I am aware that not everyone reacts in this manner -I am aware that there are many people which started before '05 Now thats out of the way, frankly, I've been through enough PvP ops with TONS of different people and see the reactions people express when they see a presumed high SP character. It's either a) Engage with a big gang or b) Run. Of course some people engage, there are exceptions to all rules. Personally I believe that if we remove the dates on employment history it would be better for PvP. I realize that reasons of recruitment, employment history dates are important, but maybe they can be somehow provided at the player's discretion via ingame means? Now this is just a sketch idea and I haven't thought it through completely and it's sure to have holes and such so please don't spaz out. I also thinks this adds somewhat of a bigger challange to PvP, because you don't know what to expect as much. /signed
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2008.02.16 08:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Robert0288 I got a summer of 2003 charecter, and I've seen a caracal run from my ibis of d00m :) Hahaha EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki
Brother Priad Fluffy Bunny Killers	Posted - 2008.02.16 09:06:00 - [15] Id like to erase one bit of my history, the first time i made my corp, wish i noticed i spelt Fluffy - Fluffly, urgh... Death to the Bunnies!
Khul Drukath Maelstrom Crew Mournival Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.16 10:05:00 - [16] Maybe employment history should only be revealed when you make an app to join a corp. Who else really needs to know? Hire Us
Karlemgne Flying Under the Influence	Posted - 2008.02.16 10:07:00 - [17] Originally by: Khul Drukath Maybe employment history should only be revealed when you make an app to join a corp. Who else really needs to know? Don't get me wrong, I think this is a great idea. That it hasn't come up before this is actually shocking. But, roleplayers will *****. And I think of one thing its good for, spotting potential alts. -Karlemgne
K'racker	Posted - 2008.02.16 10:22:00 - [18] employment history is pretty far down the list of things to check if you're worrying about engaging someone. right in there with their bio.. ;p better off paying attention to flight characteristics if they're on grid with you, or pounding the scanner for ship type.
hilaw	Posted - 2008.02.16 11:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov OMG HIGH SP! AVOID OR DIE!" 3 Interceptor Pilots met my lone af, they didn't even stop to look at what I was flying, they just got out Can we just have the last year on public display?
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.16 13:21:00 - [20] Originally by: K'racker employment history is pretty far down the list of things to check if you're worrying about engaging someone. right in there with their bio.. ;p better off paying attention to flight characteristics if they're on grid with you, or pounding the scanner for ship type. You see you're right, you SHOULD be looking at flight characteristics and ship type. Unfortunately, thats not always the case. People usually just Right Click + Show Info then dock. ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun!
Elles D Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.16 14:29:00 - [21] Apparently people lag when seeing my employment history.... Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
PaRaZiTuRL Amarr Raging Phoenix	Posted - 2008.02.16 14:36:00 - [22] Edited by: PaRaZiTuRL on 16/02/2008 14:36:39 Originally by: Elles D Apparently people lag when seeing my employment history.... Hahaha, i hate when you got 3 pages of history. Talk about undecided. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes :(( come on, it was about bunnies and lasers :D.Eve lazers.Will change
Elles D Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.16 15:03:00 - [23] Originally by: PaRaZiTuRL Edited by: PaRaZiTuRL on 16/02/2008 14:36:39 Originally by: Elles D Apparently people lag when seeing my employment history.... Hahaha, i hate when you got 3 pages of history. Talk about undecided. I just have, insecurity issues..... Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.02.16 15:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Aprudena Gist employment history should be erase if a paied character transfer is done. Good idea. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Chuck Skull BBK Corp	Posted - 2008.02.16 16:13:00 - [25] Originally by: Aprudena Gist employment history should be erase if a paied character transfer is done. Great idea. --- Also available in 'sober'
Khul Drukath Maelstrom Crew Mournival Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.16 17:01:00 - [26] Originally by: K'racker employment history is pretty far down the list of things to check if you're worrying about engaging someone. right in there with their bio.. What?! You attack people with skulls in their bio? Dear God man... Hire Us
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.02.16 21:35:00 - [27] Originally by: Daanika Tbh, if a toon is over say, 6 mos. old I worry more about which ship they're flying. You can only train a cruiser so far, for example... an 8 month toon could have the same skill point allocation as someone brandishing a big, scary '2003' on their employment history. After that it's RL skill, fitting and of course, huge massive balls. For me, employment history is used more for deciding that the 4 month toon ratting in a rohk (armor tanked, no less) would be fun to attack with my rifter. Yes, Warping in on an abaddon with a stabber is priceless... wish I hadn't lost my point like a noob ------------ Originally by: Praxis1452 you win eve
Elienee	Posted - 2008.02.16 22:54:00 - [28] Only corp thief's, corp grievers, and extreme PVP oriented characters want to remove the employment history. Its a great tool to see what a player have been up to. Its also a telltale on those who jump to NPC corps, when their corp get wardeced (this seems to apply too both carebears and lowsec pirates).
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.16 23:23:00 - [29] Originally by: Elienee Only corp thief's, corp grievers, and extreme PVP oriented characters want to remove the employment history. Its a great tool to see what a player have been up to. Its also a telltale on those who jump to NPC corps, when their corp get wardeced (this seems to apply too both carebears and lowsec pirates). Hence the reason it was suggested that corp history only show to the corp you've applied to or are planning to apply to through some ingame feature. That is the sole reason for Corp History, simply as part of the recruitment process. It's just used by others as a means of determining whether or not you should engage the pilot (and its not even accurate, mostly based on assumption). It's the same as how people are asking to have local removed because people use it as a method of detection. ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun!
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.02.17 03:46:00 - [30] Employment history is a awesome tool for gang spotting, etc, especially if you remember who's friends with who and such things. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Wind Ictiva Delta Kappa Gamma	Posted - 2008.02.17 04:52:00 - [31] Originally by: Elienee Its also a telltale on those who jump to NPC corps, when their corp get wardeced (this seems to apply too both carebears and lowsec pirates). do low sec pirates get wardecced a lot? Originally by: Admiral Love Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.17 05:12:00 - [32] Remove employment history those right click open convo'ers don't need to know where I've been
Dr Caligo	Posted - 2008.02.17 06:05:00 - [33] CCP should add character transfer dates to employment history.
rValdez5987 Amarr Killed In Action The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.02.17 08:22:00 - [34] /signed. You should be able to say which characters are purchased from their original owners... not that its hard to find out, when youve got a 2003 player, flying around in a worst named t1 fitted caracal, and he doesnt even know what a war target is, yet he has an excellent employment history with many big alliances.
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.02.17 11:29:00 - [35] Originally by: Wind Ictiva do low sec pirates get wardecced a lot? Funnily enough, I've had people wardec my old corp (which is a pirate corp + some industrials, all living in lowsec). Which is strange, because that removes the advantage of sentries being on their side. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Maikar Gallente The Bloody Red Souls Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2008.02.17 12:11:00 - [36] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Wind Ictiva do low sec pirates get wardecced a lot? Funnily enough, I've had people wardec my old corp (which is a pirate corp + some industrials, all living in lowsec). Which is strange, because that removes the advantage of sentries being on their side. Yarr, and we beat em. :)
Viqer Fell Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.17 13:50:00 - [37] I agree, the employment history should also contain the dates for character sales Character Ownership transferred 27.12.2006 for example Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.17 18:11:00 - [38] Ok, its evident that some people are either not reading fully or not understanding. In the end, this is the system that I'd like to see. 1) When someone right clicks and clicks show info, there is no employment history tab. 2) When someone applys to a corporation, all members of the corporation/alliance can now right click and show info and see the employment history. 3) When someone does a character transfer, that will be shown in the employment history that the character was transfered on X Date and Time. This will enable corporations to still catch spies and such but the employment history as it is now is frankly quite flawed. Lets say I wanted to join BoB and fit all their requirements, I probably wouldn't because I have Goonswarm on my employment history. I have never been on Goonswarm before, but the previous owner of this character was. So why should I suffer his choices. Sins of the father and all that. Furthermore the comment has been made that: "Employment history is a awesome tool for gang spotting, etc, especially if you remember who's friends with who and such things." and I 100% agree, but the fact of the matter is, thats not how it was intended to be used. I hate to associate EVE with real life but realistically speaking we don't all walk around earth with our Resumes taped to our chests. ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun!
Ja'kar MAFIA	Posted - 2008.02.18 01:18:00 - [39] Resumes taped to our chests. now that would be cool - looking for **** stars - or strippers
Danari Amarr Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.18 03:12:00 - [40] I like the history the way it is. Some of my funnest solo kills came back when I had the ASCN tag and got improbable fights such as maller on claw, blackbird on jag, moa on ishkur, etc. [Tri][VSQ]Danari in these same ships 100 times out of 100 won't get aggressed. On the reverse, I've had some impressive surprises, such as a battle-iteron, and Ramireza in an Osprey on a toon named Caldari Citizen... bbq me. Would I have taken on Ramireza in any cruiser in the game in my Sabre? Oh hell no. The way I see it, none of those fights occur because there's nothing to represent lack of street cred to prompt aggression.
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.18 03:32:00 - [41] Originally by: Danari I like the history the way it is. Some of my funnest solo kills came back when I had the ASCN tag and got improbable fights such as maller on claw, blackbird on jag, moa on ishkur, etc. [Tri][VSQ]Danari in these same ships 100 times out of 100 won't get aggressed. On the reverse, I've had some impressive surprises, such as a battle-iteron, and Ramireza in an Osprey on a toon named Caldari Citizen... bbq me. Would I have taken on Ramireza in any cruiser in the game in my Sabre? Oh hell no. The way I see it, none of those fights occur because there's nothing to represent lack of street cred to prompt aggression. What are you talking about? ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun!
Cyriel Longinus XERCORE	Posted - 2008.02.18 04:48:00 - [42] Employment history is the only in game archive of history in EvE. There many others that have a very colorful employment histories with names that invoke memories of past eras of good times. I believe that Danari above suggested that his employment history had been beneficial for him and he is immensely proud of it. I am also happy with mine for many reasons but mostly because it shows that I love playing EvE since Æ05. When I began, I looked at info for older characters ... I thought how freakin cool this game must be to have a community so into the game that people play for years. Dimitry, You bought your current name and so naturally you would want to wipe clean all the history of your current incarnation. Obviously you do not fully accept the identity of Dimitry Kalashnikov and why would you à you continue the name but you did not shape the history of the character. But that would be the consequence of buying a character. ItÆs understandable you would want the benefit of a skilled character. It would make sense that you would attempt to rally as many sympathizers to this personal notion to change a game mechanic that honors the old timers in a simple way. I understand. If you had shaped the history of Dimitry, this post would have never seen these forums. If others had realized upon character creation that they would fall in love with EvE during the trial period they would have not named themselves something so impulsive. The same is true for what corp they had chosen to associate with. But that is the beauty of EvE à we have history and consequences. Thos are things I never want to see wiped clean.
YourDaddi	Posted - 2008.02.18 05:13:00 - [43] Originally by: Khul Drukath Maybe employment history should only be revealed when you make an app to join a corp. Who else really needs to know? you have never been in sov. space have you?
YourDaddi	Posted - 2008.02.18 05:15:00 - [44] Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Ok, its evident that some people are either not reading fully or not understanding. In the end, this is the system that I'd like to see. 1) When someone right clicks and clicks show info, there is no employment history tab. 2) When someone applys to a corporation, all members of the corporation/alliance can now right click and show info and see the employment history. 3) When someone does a character transfer, that will be shown in the employment history that the character was transfered on X Date and Time. This will enable corporations to still catch spies and such but the employment history as it is now is frankly quite flawed. Lets say I wanted to join BoB and fit all their requirements, I probably wouldn't because I have Goonswarm on my employment history. I have never been on Goonswarm before, but the previous owner of this character was. So why should I suffer his choices. Sins of the father and all that. Furthermore the comment has been made that: "Employment history is a awesome tool for gang spotting, etc, especially if you remember who's friends with who and such things." and I 100% agree, but the fact of the matter is, thats not how it was intended to be used. I hate to associate EVE with real life but realistically speaking we don't all walk around earth with our Resumes taped to our chests. dont buy ur toons. problem solved.
Cyriel Longinus XERCORE	Posted - 2008.02.18 05:17:00 - [45] Originally by: YourDaddi dont buy ur toons. problem solved. Damn you, I write a wall of text and simply said it in one sentence
Julius Romanus Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.02.18 05:50:00 - [46] Originally by: YourDaddi Originally by: Dr Caligo CCP should add character transfer dates to employment history. this is a good idea. It would end the reign of the Jenny Spitfire ruse =P Also, I like corp history. Very little in this game goes into the feeling of the world. For myself I like being able to look at my corp history and think fondly on pirating in Null Horizon, or the good times had against REPO in Bloodmoney IncÖ. For others, I like seeing where they have been. You even run into former corp mates you'd forgotten sometimes
Danari Amarr Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.18 11:19:00 - [47] Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Originally by: Danari I like the history the way it is. Some of my funnest solo kills came back when I had the ASCN tag and got improbable fights such as maller on claw, blackbird on jag, moa on ishkur, etc. [Tri][VSQ]Danari in these same ships 100 times out of 100 won't get aggressed. On the reverse, I've had some impressive surprises, such as a battle-iteron, and Ramireza in an Osprey on a toon named Caldari Citizen... bbq me. Would I have taken on Ramireza in any cruiser in the game in my Sabre? Oh hell no. The way I see it, none of those fights occur because there's nothing to represent lack of street cred to prompt aggression. What are you talking about? How about you train English as a primary language to lvl 1 and get back to me -- nub.
LordChaos Amarr Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.18 12:15:00 - [48] my only problem with Employment history its it lags the game when you want to check local for pirates :) all i want to check is their sec status but also it auto opens on employment history which is annoying :) and i fought 1 year characters who engaged me first so i dont see that as a problem though just laggy :) The Master Of Chaos
Kaileen Starsong Amarr Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.02.18 12:17:00 - [49] Edited by: Kaileen Starsong on 18/02/2008 12:21:30 Edited by: Kaileen Starsong on 18/02/2008 12:18:30 Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov stuff Well, I've personally not encountered the high SP syndrom, but then I'm too young of a char to be feared really(jan 2006). On the other side, I find it quite amusing when I pop something and then realize it was some 2004 char Very useful tool of reconnaisance when flying solo btw, won't really like to see it removed(as it's challenging enough to solo already). Should be an option maybe to hide all but last employment entities' dates. Most combat pilots I know tend not to look at character creation date btw, one can not be specc'ed higher than lvl 5 into something anyway. Edit. Seems to be somewhat less of stuff to shoot at after I joined Veto though. Maybe you're right..
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.18 13:13:00 - [50] I had no choice but to buy my toon. I was one of those unfortunate people that didn't listen when people told me "Don't sell your main!", but I did and put the isk on my alt because I was quitting. Upon my return (addicted) I was forced to sell my carebear alt to buy this PvP character. However the thing is, I don't have a problem with people running away from the age of THIS character. It's the main that I sold, which obviously, I no longer use. So you can see that the main point of this thread was based on past experience and not self interest. I didn't even think of the character transfer thing till someone mentioned it, and frankly it's a great idea. I will however say one last time. I do not want Employment History wiped clean. I simply want it concealed from the average Joe and make it only visible to corps that you join or are trying to join. ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun!
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.02.18 13:59:00 - [51] Originally by: Kaileen Starsong Edit. Seems to be somewhat less of stuff to shoot at after I joined Veto though. Maybe you're right.. Yeah, because Veto is known as very efficent, and having even more efficent gangs ;) Thinking about it, it's a big thing on your resume - any PvP corp would take a ex-Veto member in with far less checks, you'd naturally assume if someone was in Veto for any prologed period of time that he must know his stuff. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Wu Jiun	Posted - 2008.02.18 17:20:00 - [52] Erasing the employment history on a char transfer doesn't make sense. What keeps say a scammer from transfering his character twice between two of his accounts or between the account of a friend and his own? The idea of the employment history was that in eve your reputation counts. You can't just use the "get out of jail" card if you screwed up. Of course the existence of char transfers itself has watered down the principle. So imo it would be best to just ban all character transfers and be done with it.
Natural High	Posted - 2008.02.18 22:14:00 - [53] I personnaly enjoy corp history. Its a very nice thing to see and remember what youve been through and what youve been doing for years.
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.18 23:13:00 - [54] Originally by: Wu Jiun Erasing the employment history on a char transfer doesn't make sense. What keeps say a scammer from transfering his character twice between two of his accounts or between the account of a friend and his own? The idea of the employment history was that in eve your reputation counts. You can't just use the "get out of jail" card if you screwed up. Of course the existence of char transfers itself has watered down the principle. So imo it would be best to just ban all character transfers and be done with it. Not erase. Just have a little marker in there saying "Character Transfered on X Date and Time". ============================================== The thousand ships of the Black Fleet Corporation descent upon you! Our Void L will blot out the sun!
Wu Jiun	Posted - 2008.02.19 13:44:00 - [55] Edited by: Wu Jiun on 19/02/2008 13:44:44 Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov I mean wow, are you just dumb or something? Take your medication ahole. Edit: And yes erasing the employment history has been proposed in this thread.
Zenobite Soliders Of Eve The Church.	Posted - 2008.02.19 15:54:00 - [56] Originally by: Wu Jiun Edited by: Wu Jiun on 19/02/2008 13:44:44 Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov I mean wow, are you just dumb or something? Take your medication ahole. Edit: And yes erasing the employment history has been proposed in this thread. The orignal suggestion was a flag to say when someone transfered a char, someone else suggested erasing employment history. So why don't you take you medication and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Wu Jiun	Posted - 2008.02.19 16:01:00 - [57] Edited by: Wu Jiun on 19/02/2008 16:02:55 Originally by: Zenobite The orignal suggestion was a flag to say when someone transfered a char, someone else suggested erasing employment history. And i can't comment on something someone else said in this thread exactly why? And where exactly did i indicate i was commenting on the op specifically? Did i quote the OP? No, i did not. Because i wasn't referring to the Op but to some of the ideas raised in this thread. And who are you again? You're his mum, right?
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.19 16:03:00 - [58] Originally by: Wu Jiun Edited by: Wu Jiun on 19/02/2008 13:44:44 Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov I mean wow, are you just dumb or something? Take your medication ahole. Edit: And yes erasing the employment history has been proposed in this thread. Lol, thats my sig I mean wow, are you just dumb or something?
Wu Jiun	Posted - 2008.02.19 16:05:00 - [59] Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Edit: And yes erasing the employment history has been proposed in this thread. Lol, thats my sig Ouch. Ok, i firmly apologize. For me it looked like you were throwing insults at me although i just meant to comment on some of the ideas raised here (not by you specifically though).
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.19 16:09:00 - [60] Originally by: Wu Jiun Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Edit: And yes erasing the employment history has been proposed in this thread. Lol, thats my sig Ouch. Ok, i firmly apologize. For me it looked like you were throwing insults at me although i just meant to comment on some of the ideas raised here (not by you specifically though). Thats the intention of the sig. I mean wow, are you just dumb or something?
Arkady Renko	Posted - 2008.02.19 20:07:00 - [61] recently got solo mugged by a 3 month old character....he was in a pilgrim Good skill train I thought
Kell Braugh Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.19 20:22:00 - [62] I ony look at current corp and alliance in local to see if i'm attacking a gang personally. I do agree with the "character sold on xxxx" stamp though EFT screen shots are NOT an accurate example of a ship's abilities.
Daanika	Posted - 2008.02.19 20:38:00 - [63] Originally by: Arkady Renko recently got solo mugged by a 3 month old character....he was in a pilgrim Good skill train I thought Hard to imagine he'd be effective in it, but then again shock value prolly makes up for likely not even having drones 5... in.. a.. pilgrim... I'd sure like to encounter this guy
YourDaddi	Posted - 2008.03.01 04:12:00 - [64] Originally by: Cyriel Longinus Originally by: YourDaddi dont buy ur toons. problem solved. Damn you, I write a wall of text and simply said it in one sentence lol
Cosmar Gallente Kingfisher Industries	Posted - 2008.03.01 06:13:00 - [65] I'm one of those that's advantaged by it, first played the trial 2 years ago, but i took some long breaks from the game (rejoined with Trinity). All in all i probably have about 6 months of real gametime. It's nice that most people assume age = sp, it saves me some trouble because people aren't willing to start things.
Kahega Amielden	Posted - 2008.03.01 06:45:00 - [66] Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 01/03/2008 06:45:20 Similar thing happened to me. I activated the wrong trial account when I bought EVE. ****ed me off initially. 3-4 months in game, 1 year 11 month employment history. First question when I applied to join one corp: "Why did you go one and a half years without leaving NPC corp?"
Simon LBowerbank	Posted - 2008.03.01 12:04:00 - [67] Edited by: Simon LBowerbank on 01/03/2008 12:05:11 I agree with the original poster. Why should we automaticaly have access to peoples employment history when we have never even met them before? It should be a page in your character profile for only you to see or perhaps a corperation you are applying to. Also, a few weeks after activating this account i realised i had a 05 trial account i played for a day.
valerydarcy Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.01 19:36:00 - [68] tbh.. i think its completely irrelevent, BUT does serve an important purpose. for example: speaking from a solo combatants pov, you jump into a low sec system to find some pew pew and youve got 5 locals. 2 are nubbin alts, one is about your age, one is slightly new but worth a squirt and one is zomg beta. you run a few scans and determine ship types in local space. as far as im concerned all the age of that character is relevant to is helping me match ship type to character name based upon approx skill points etc. tbh, if i had a 1 year old char in a cruiser and i was confident with my cruiser skills, and i come up against a 2 year old local i wouldnt think 'omg twice as many skill points runrunlol'- if id base my desicion upon ship type. so- if im sitting there in a t1 cruiser and mr 2yr old player comes along in a cmd ship, yes, id leg it. if they turn up in another t1 cruiser, game on, it going to be a good fight. remove this element of deductory assistance and what youre left with is chaos and frustration.
Scoundrelus Dark Tornado Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2008.03.02 22:31:00 - [69] Originally by: valerydarcy remove this element of deductory assistance and what youre left with is chaos and frustration. And pirates hate that.
Atila Caldari Wasabi Inc	Posted - 2008.03.03 12:08:00 - [70] according to my employment history i was never in a newb corp =)
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Heretic Logistics DeStInY.	Posted - 2008.03.03 12:53:00 - [71] To be honest, my employment history's a bit of an embarassment. I was with Luna Rossa Corporation for a long time, but I occasionally hopped around doing things with roleplay corps but getting bored quickly due to my low PvP skill at the time. I then stayed with Luna Rossa for a considerably longer time until Peoke, in a fit of pique, had me kicked out because I questioned his orders. After that I started my own corporation, missioned for a while, then joined Dichotomy, which lasted for about a month before I signed on with Heretic Army. After that I voulenteered to help start up the industrial wing of Heretic Army, Heretic Logistics, and that's where I am now. My employment history makes me look like some form of corp thief, but that's really not true - I'm just flaky and unsure of what I want . I'd pay substantial ISK to get it removed. ----- "I am prepared to meet my maker; whether my maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter."
Derek Deadman	Posted - 2008.03.03 13:52:00 - [72] I think it should go like this 1) When someone right clicks and clicks show info, there is no employment history tab. 2) When someone applys to a corporation, all members of the corporation/alliance can now right click and show info and see the employment history. 3) When leaving a Corp you should have to give a reason for leaving (not just other) and this should show up on your employment history. 4) When someone does a character transfer, that will be shown in the employment history that the character was transfered on X Date and Time.
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.03.04 01:18:00 - [73] Originally by: Derek Deadman 3) When leaving a Corp you should have to give a reason for leaving (not just other) and this should show up on your employment history. Well wouldn't this be kind of redundant? I mean people would just put what they want without having any means of proving what they wrote making it as about as useful as Corp Member Titles. I mean wow, are you just dumb or something?
ry ry StateCorp Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.04 11:35:00 - [74] i've got an '05 character with less skill points this '07 character has. i never use him anymore because he's fugly. Signature removed. Too large and flashing signatures are not really permitted. Navigator
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.03.04 13:36:00 - [75] Originally by: valerydarcy tbh.. i think its completely irrelevent, BUT does serve an important purpose. for example: speaking from a solo combatants pov, you jump into a low sec system to find some pew pew and youve got 5 locals. 2 are nubbin alts, one is about your age, one is slightly new but worth a squirt and one is zomg beta. you run a few scans and determine ship types in local space. as far as im concerned all the age of that character is relevant to is helping me match ship type to character name based upon approx skill points etc. tbh, if i had a 1 year old char in a cruiser and i was confident with my cruiser skills, and i come up against a 2 year old local i wouldnt think 'omg twice as many skill points runrunlol'- if id base my desicion upon ship type. so- if im sitting there in a t1 cruiser and mr 2yr old player comes along in a cmd ship, yes, id leg it. if they turn up in another t1 cruiser, game on, it going to be a good fight. remove this element of deductory assistance and what youre left with is chaos and frustration. This is why employment history is necessary. It also helps spot who's teamed up with who. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Scoundrelus Dark Tornado Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2008.03.04 14:54:00 - [76] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: valerydarcy tbh.. i think its completely irrelevent, BUT does serve an important purpose. for example: speaking from a solo combatants pov, you jump into a low sec system to find some pew pew and youve got 5 locals. 2 are nubbin alts, one is about your age, one is slightly new but worth a squirt and one is zomg beta. you run a few scans and determine ship types in local space. as far as im concerned all the age of that character is relevant to is helping me match ship type to character name based upon approx skill points etc. tbh, if i had a 1 year old char in a cruiser and i was confident with my cruiser skills, and i come up against a 2 year old local i wouldnt think 'omg twice as many skill points runrunlol'- if id base my desicion upon ship type. so- if im sitting there in a t1 cruiser and mr 2yr old player comes along in a cmd ship, yes, id leg it. if they turn up in another t1 cruiser, game on, it going to be a good fight. remove this element of deductory assistance and what youre left with is chaos and frustration. This is why employment history is necessary. It also helps spot who's teamed up with who. And precisely why the ideas in this thread should be implemented. It is made as a Resume style tool. It should not be useful in PvP but rather in recruitment only.
Robis Doyal Caldari ShockTroopers	Posted - 2008.03.04 16:07:00 - [77] im from 06 and just got my ship killed in basgerin by a poorly skilled player named tori in a ship just 1 class above mine and she made away with great ship equipment she has only been around a year or less you can't judge a person by their start date -------------------------------------------------------- ISD... respectable moderators or sig jacking pirates? heheh dont shoot me ISD i still Wuv u ^_^
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.03.04 16:08:00 - [78] Originally by: Robis Doyal im from 06 and just got my ship killed in basgerin by a poorly skilled player named tori in a ship just 1 class above mine and she made away with great ship equipment she has only been around a year or less you can't judge a person by their start date No, you can't. But people do. Haven't you been reading? I mean wow, are you just dumb or something?
Robis Doyal Caldari ShockTroopers	Posted - 2008.03.04 16:10:00 - [79] Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Originally by: Robis Doyal im from 06 and just got my ship killed in basgerin by a poorly skilled player named tori in a ship just 1 class above mine and she made away with great ship equipment she has only been around a year or less you can't judge a person by their start date No, you can't. But people do. Haven't you been reading? im replying to the orignal post... moron -------------------------------------------------------- ISD... respectable moderators or sig jacking pirates? heheh dont shoot me ISD i still Wuv u ^_^
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.03.04 16:15:00 - [80] Originally by: Robis Doyal Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Originally by: Robis Doyal im from 06 and just got my ship killed in basgerin by a poorly skilled player named tori in a ship just 1 class above mine and she made away with great ship equipment she has only been around a year or less you can't judge a person by their start date No, you can't. But people do. Haven't you been reading? im replying to the orignal post... moron Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov -I am aware that SP does not equal skill -I am aware that not everyone reacts in this manner -I am aware that there are many people which started before '05 So I ask again. Haven't you been reading? I mean wow, are you just dumb or something?
Robis Doyal Caldari ShockTroopers	Posted - 2008.03.04 16:28:00 - [81] Edited by: Robis Doyal on 04/03/2008 16:28:50 Im afraid it is you that are a dumb tard my friend. You stated a matter of conflict in-game and what you think would resolve the problem. Pointless? Yes because nothing will happen, thread was a waste of space, time, and gameplay. However making this thread led other (such as me) to post on what we think about and situations where this has ocured or was disregarded. So back to my post i offered an experiance that just happend today to add to the list of posts. Therefor... 1. I am not dumb(which i might add is a childish word) 2. Your a moron if you did not guess to have irelevent posts added to your irelevent thread. 3. Moron adds class use it to boost your charisma skill. 4.Pwn3 -------------------------------------------------------- ISD... respectable moderators or sig jacking pirates? heheh dont shoot me ISD i still Wuv u ^_^
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.03.04 16:35:00 - [82] Originally by: Robis Doyal Edited by: Robis Doyal on 04/03/2008 16:28:50 Im afraid it is you that are a dumb tard my friend. You stated a matter of conflict in-game and what you think would resolve the problem. Pointless? Yes because nothing will happen, thread was a waste of space, time, and gameplay. However making this thread led other (such as me) to post on what we think about and situations where this has ocured or was disregarded. So back to my post i offered an experiance that just happend today to add to the list of posts. Therefor... 1. I am not dumb(which i might add is a childish word) 2. Your a moron if you did not guess to have irelevent posts added to your irelevent thread. 3. Moron adds class use it to boost your charisma skill. 4.Pwn3 I see. So stating an idea in the forum because you think nothing will happen makes it pointless? Well you've pretty much summed up that you shouldn't be listened to. As well I believe that the first person to resort to hurling insults immediately shows that he has no argument and furthermore, is the "dumb" one. I mean wow, are you just dumb or something?

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