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Minyana
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Posted - 2008.02.16 01:48:00 -
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I just offered to help a guy named Saber Stuner on a lvl4 mission. Formed a fleet with him and warped to him. One minute later i find myself a ransom, a ship and a pod poorer, as his friends waiting there kick my butt.
How come this kind of tactic, based upon other peoples good will even exist?!
Lesson: Don't ever help people.
2008.02.16 01:19:00
Victim: Minyana
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Ministry of War
Destroyed: Abaddon
System: Dodixie
Security: 0.9
Damage Taken: 43047
Involved parties:
Name: Lynisle (laid the final blow)
Security: 1.3
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Out-Rage
Ship: Abaddon
Weapon: Warrior II
Damage Done: 21809
Name: Pak Seongsu
Security: -2.0
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Out-Rage
Ship: Megathron
Weapon: Megathron
Damage Done: 10512
Name: ALPHA LEET
Security: -0.2
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Out-Rage
Ship: Deimos
Weapon: Deimos
Damage Done: 9606
Name: Berackus
Security: -2.2
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Out-Rage
Ship: Rifter
Weapon: Rifter
Damage Done: 1120
Destroyed items:
Berserker TP-900 (Drone Bay)
Mega Pulse Laser II, Qty: 4
Radio L, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Multifrequency L, Qty: 4
Infrared L, Qty: 8 (Cargo)
Cap Recharger II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Capacitor Control Circuit I, Qty: 3
Dropped items:
Damage Control II
Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I, Qty: 2
LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Mega Pulse Laser II, Qty: 4
Radio L, Qty: 5 (Cargo)
Type-D Power Core Modification: Capacitor Power Relay
Multifrequency L, Qty: 4
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Cap Recharger II, Qty: 2
Berserker SW-900, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
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PraetorNZ
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.02.16 01:51:00 -
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LOL awesome
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.16 01:53:00 -
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Lllloftied !
Berserker TP-900 
 Originally by: ivan draco
we didnt want your post anyway
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.02.16 01:55:00 -
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I really wish these SHOCKING EXPOSE! posts would get deleted 
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.02.16 01:55:00 -
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When you formed a fleet with him, there was a warning popup that said that by accepting him into the fleet, anyone he is at war with can fire on you. That popup would also list the corporations he may be at war with. You should have checked the local chat for anyone in the listed corporations to make sure.
Sorry. 
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Val Vympel
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.16 02:00:00 -
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There are many "turds" in EVE,and you just happened to step on one.
Don't let this betrayal sour you.
Cheers
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Uzuness
Caldari
stone grave haulage
PROBABLE CAUSE
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Posted - 2008.02.16 02:01:00 -
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This is why I stopped talking in local.
Sorry it happened to you. Hope you get revenge soon.
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.02.16 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Minyana
Lesson: Don't ever help people.
Well at least you learned something from the event.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.02.16 03:11:00 -
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Your point?
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.02.16 03:16:00 -
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Simple solution: Fly there in a disposable t1 frig with a ship scanner.
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Vikarion
Caldari
United Heavens
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Posted - 2008.02.16 05:00:00 -
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Heh, I had this happen to me fairly recently. It's a pretty clever scam, in that it preys on the goodwill of others to kill them.
EvE is a dark, harsh, cruel place where you have to be powerful and wealthy if you want to be "nice" without risking everything you own. Sorry, but that's the way it is.
The fact is, you should never help anyone you don't implicitly trust with your ship and your pod. Never join a fleet with anyone not in your corp...some people will tell you ways to make it "safe", but fleets are not safe.
Period.
So, pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and go refit a new ship, and maybe hire some mercs on the guys if you need retribution. It's not the end of the world, although it feels like it now.
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Diciamin
Hand Of Muritor
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Posted - 2008.02.16 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
When you formed a fleet with him, there was a warning popup that said that by accepting him into the fleet, anyone he is at war with can fire on you. That popup would also list the corporations he may be at war with. You should have checked the local chat for anyone in the listed corporations to make sure.
That's not always the case.
You don't get the "Dodgy" warning, listing all wars, if the original inviter is clean as a whistle (and un-ganged, at time of invite).
You'll notice Saber Stuner is not on the killmail... the one the OP initially joined up to aid.
Saber was most likely solo (at that time), invited the OP (who received no warning)... then when OP is mid-warp to Saber, invites all the crowd of uglies. You don't get "dodgy" warnings if you're already in the gang, when new members join.
Not sayin' it doesn't suck when it happens... just sayin' it is completely possible to join an ambush gang unawares, and with no warning.
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Earl Black
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Posted - 2008.02.16 07:55:00 -
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Please pay tribute to the pilot who refined this to an art form, in a short time he pulled this trick many times.
lofty29
Love him or hate him, he's a legend in his own lunchtime
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Erin Xaelan
Forging Industries
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Posted - 2008.02.16 07:56:00 -
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The sadness I see in this is that pirates ask for a ransom to spare your life...then kill you anyway...
Doesn't seem very pirate-ish to me >.>
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2008.02.16 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Erin Xaelan
The sadness I see in this is that pirates ask for a ransom to spare your life...then kill you anyway...
Doesn't seem very pirate-ish to me >.>
Pirates that actually deserve that name don't have to stoop to these 'tactics' to make their epeen explode. Gang sploiters and suicide gankers, both the same ilk. They're about the lowliest form of life to be found in EVE, ranking even below Goons.
This is why I always have autoreject on when operating in highsec.
And the real funny thing is, the people condoning these actions, which kinda encourage people into misrust and rather staying on their own, then turn around and harp about how this is a multiplayer game and you should be interacting with others when they whine about solo L4 runners in a different thread...
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Amberly Coteaz
Amarr
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.16 08:13:00 -
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The real tragedy is not the ship loss but the fact that they went to all that trouble for a plain t2 fit Abbadon.
Where are the deadspace hardeners? Officer Damage mods? Hell even faction gear would do, somewhere lofty is crying over having his name associated with this poor mans high sec gank 
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Vaal Erit
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Posted - 2008.02.16 08:41:00 -
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Dear Minyana,
Please post this in Crime & Punishment. I'm sure the morally upstanding citizens of eve will be outraged by this in that section of the forum.
*giggle*
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Frug
True Foundation
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.02.16 08:46:00 -
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Hi. My name is Eve Online and I'm not a nice guy.
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Firkragg
PREDATORS OF DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2008.02.16 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Frug
Hi. My name is Eve Online and I'm not a nice guy.
And yet i cant resist the urge to bury myself inside you at least once a day
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.16 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 16/02/2008 12:17:42
rule nŠ1 of Grimpaks Guideline book of EVE:
TRUST NOONE.
if I posted the guideline book in the forums, it would be a huge success.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.16 12:17:00 -
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Next time ask him to make you gang lead and kick anybody else out of the gang.
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Karma
Eve University
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Posted - 2008.02.16 12:25:00 -
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trust, completely optional...
but discouraged.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.02.16 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 16/02/2008 12:52:44
What's with all the scum infesting Gen pop?
Back to C & P with you! Shoo!
Anyway, this sort of mechanic probably exists because Eve's lead(?) developer is the type of person who wants, feels compelled, to throw grenades at noobs, if that ever becomes possible in internet walking, I mean Ambulation. That's what I read in some devblog or some such. In other words, this loophole in gang mechanics exists because the makers of this game want such loopholes to exist. It's been around for so long it cannot be considered an oversight, and thus it's WaD. Even if I think it's ridiculous.
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Kyoto Luyi
MX3 Development
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.02.16 13:48:00 -
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If you do get the urge to 'help' any more 'poor players', accept the invite, click on 'warp to member', wait for the warp to activate, click on 'leave fleet'...
If they're stupid enough to still fire on you, you get to see concord wtfpwn them :)
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Thorexion Lynch
Gallente
Shadows of Valor
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Posted - 2008.02.16 14:03:00 -
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OFFS!!! Clearly people that get caught by this "tactic" are the ones that only run to the forums when THEY need something (or to whine exibit A: Le OP). This "kill the carebear****s" tactic has been poppin up alot in the last few weeks because dont like to listen and they CLEARLY dont know how to leave gang when being locked.... takes at least 5 seconds to lock a battleship (in another battleship i think, dont quote me it) so thats 5 seconds PLUS those 2 seconds from when the warp bubble is about to collapse......so in total around 7 seconds (1337 math skills yo) to right click and leave the frakkin' fleet.. OR even better when the other dude warps you, leave the fleet that way if it aint a trap just frakkin join up again i mean REALLY, some of the player base of this game is that of two frakkin dead frogs!!!
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Cinbad
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.02.16 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Thorexion Lynch
OFFS!!! Clearly people that get caught by this "tactic" are the ones that only run to the forums when THEY need something (or to whine exibit A: Le OP). This "kill the carebear****s" tactic has been poppin up alot in the last few weeks because dont like to listen and they CLEARLY dont know how to leave gang when being locked.... takes at least 5 seconds to lock a battleship (in another battleship i think, dont quote me it) so thats 5 seconds PLUS those 2 seconds from when the warp bubble is about to collapse......so in total around 7 seconds (1337 math skills yo) to right click and leave the frakkin' fleet.. OR even better when the other dude warps you, leave the fleet that way if it aint a trap just frakkin join up again i mean REALLY, some of the player base of this game is that of two frakkin dead frogs!!!
Is there anyone around that can translate this gibberish?
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4rc4ng3L
Gallente
C R Y O
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Posted - 2008.02.16 14:13:00 -
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........i for one, am SHOCKED, SHOCKED TO MY VERY CORE!
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Elles D
Caldari
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.02.16 14:19:00 -
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We call this being loftied.
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Thorexion Lynch
Gallente
Shadows of Valor
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Posted - 2008.02.16 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cinbad
Is there anyone around that can translate this gibberish?
Quiet you!
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Zoe Scirocco
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Posted - 2008.02.16 15:18:00 -
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Reading the way you write your posts, I fully understand why you got banned...
Anyway, someone had to learn the hard way about those low-life ambushers... Hope someone will help him get his revenge! |
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