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Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.22 14:56:00 - [1] To begin, I was looking for an image from Geass for a new signature. The bit where it has the Emporer bellowing "All Hail Brittania!", and came accross this on youtube. Genuinly interested I did some further digging and came accorss this on the Daily Telegraph website. Now to Aliens and Americans, Britain is made out of 4 constituent countries, Scotland, Northern Ireland and England being the well known ones, but Wales (and debatably Cornwall) are not so much. This is mainly because Wales was annexed many centuries ago but devolution has raised this point. Wales isn't on the Union Jack. On the Telegraph Page were a few proposals, I liked the following one best, which I wouldn't complain if it became the new British Flag. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.02.22 14:59:00 - [2] Union Flag Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.22 15:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Rodj Blake Union Flag That is only when on Land, however since the early years of the 20th Century "Jack" has become the more recognised terminology for the Flag of the United Kingdom. While technicly correct on your part, internationaly it is more widely known as the Union Jack, and included in the British populace through pride of the Home Fleet in the Post World War 1 era. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
armas Gallente Dark Centuri Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.22 15:09:00 - [4] Edited by: armas on 22/02/2008 15:10:49 I don't see why this couldn't happen, it has been altered at various points through its history, hasn't it? (I'm sure flag makers wouldn't object ) As much as I love y Ddraig Goch, maybe it would be easier and more in keeping with the current style to incorporate aspects of St. David's flag.
Ninketsu	Posted - 2008.02.22 15:45:00 - [5] The new flag looks awsome! Wish my country had that flag :( ______________________________________ Gobling Artillery 1.Find a cousin. 2.Load the cousin in the cannon. 3.Find another cousin.
armas Gallente Dark Centuri Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.22 15:51:00 - [6] The people most opposed to the flag design above would be the Welsh. We wouldn't just want a dragon on the flag, we'd want our dragon.
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2008.02.22 17:20:00 - [7] Quote: this on youtube. I demand a leek spin flag! This also raises an excellent opportunity for a revamp of the national anthem... ra ta ta dibby dibby dee... __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.22 17:37:00 - [8] Personaly I liked the Geass tribute at 45 seconds in - Rule Euphimia! Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
annoing Amarr MisFunk Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.22 17:52:00 - [9] Edited by: annoing on 22/02/2008 17:52:06 Why the hll would I want my flag ruined by adding the union flag to it? Dwi Cymraig boyo, I aint fuking english, scottish or irish and i'm proud of that fact. Let them have their flag, its cr@p anyway. Cymru am Byth Dwi Cymraig* According to the Pastafarian belief system, pirates are "absolute divine beings" and the original Pastafarians. Their image as "thieves and outcasts" is misinformation.
J Mortarius	Posted - 2008.02.22 18:03:00 - [10] Originally by: annoing Edited by: annoing on 22/02/2008 17:52:06 Why the h*ll would I want my flag ruined by adding the union flag to it? Dwi Cymraig boyo, I aint fuking english, scottish or irish and i'm proud of that fact. Let them have their flag, its cr@p anyway. Cymru am Byth You're proud of the fact that you are a member of a 'nation' that flopped over before the might of the English (as opposed to the Scots, who successfully repelled the English and taught us a few tricks)? Now that's commitment!
jason hill Caldari Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.22 18:04:00 - [11] any one remember a london mp by the name of bernie grant (labour) ...he tried to get a members bill through parliment to change the colour of the union flag ..... to the colour of the carribian flags to show our ethnicity and multiculturism ...he was ermmm laughed out of parliment destroy everything you touch
Dark Shikari Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.22 18:06:00 - [12] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/02/2008 18:06:32 Kirjava, we all know who won that contest, though Most badass flag ever. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
jason hill Caldari Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.22 18:11:00 - [13] christ !!! we have managed to outdource our bloody national flag !. last year it was santa ...this year the flag ...whats next ...the queen ? destroy everything you touch
benzss Twisted Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.22 20:03:00 - [14] My flag is St George's flag... so do what you like with the union flag ;)
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.02.22 20:48:00 - [15] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 22/02/2008 20:49:46 Originally by: jason hill christ !!! we have managed to outdource our bloody national flag !. last year it was santa ...this year the flag ...whats next ...the queen ? I am all for outsourcing the royal family. To the surface of Pluto would be recommendation. And that flag idea looks silly. Couldn't they just find some way to get a splash of green onto the thing? EVE RELATED CONTENT
Nuala Reece Caldari Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.02.22 22:15:00 - [16] Originally by: J Mortarius You're proud of the fact that you are a member of a 'nation' that flopped over before the might of the English (as opposed to the Scots, who successfully repelled the English and taught us a few tricks)? Now that's commitment! Can I come to the alternate dimension where you learned your history?
Kiviar Caldari Vice-Presidential Action Rangers	Posted - 2008.02.22 22:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/02/2008 18:06:32 Kirjava, we all know who won that contest, though Most badass flag ever. Now if Her Majesty would stand on the balcony at buckingham, thrust her arm skyward and tell us to "throw away your logic, and kick reason to the curb!" the monarchy would last for another thousand years. ---
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.22 23:20:00 - [18] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/02/2008 18:06:32 Kirjava, we all know who won that contest, though Most badass flag ever. This one has some merit I beleive. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Dark Shikari Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.22 23:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Dark Shikari Kirjava, we all know who won that contest, though Most badass flag ever. This one has some merit I beleive. Much better. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.22 23:28:00 - [20] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Dark Shikari Kirjava, we all know who won that contest, though Most badass flag ever. This one has some merit I beleive. Much better. I spent the last 20 miniutes making mine.... Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Dark Shikari Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.22 23:30:00 - [21] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/02/2008 23:32:37 Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Dark Shikari Kirjava, we all know who won that contest, though Most badass flag ever. This one has some merit I beleive. Much better. I spent the last 20 miniutes making mine.... Can't beat the winner though. The Flag is dead, it's no longer with us. However in our hearts and on our flag it continues to live on! Bringing a country to pierce the heavens! Even on the internet we can drill on, and if we break through it's our victory! Who the heck do you think we are?!!? Britain Lagaan!!!!! Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
J Mortarius	Posted - 2008.02.23 00:06:00 - [22] Originally by: Nuala Reece Originally by: J Mortarius You're proud of the fact that you are a member of a 'nation' that flopped over before the might of the English (as opposed to the Scots, who successfully repelled the English and taught us a few tricks)? Now that's commitment! Can I come to the alternate dimension where you learned your history? Sure thing. There's no such thing as Welsh selective memory where I live :P
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.02.23 01:28:00 - [23] Originally by: annoing Edited by: annoing on 22/02/2008 17:52:06 Why the hll would I want my flag ruined by adding the union flag to it? Dwi Cymraig boyo, I aint fuking english, scottish or irish and i'm proud of that fact. Let them have their flag, its cr@p anyway. Cymru am Byth Your just jealous. The day scotland gets its individuality is the day i die a happy man, i'm tired of this bull*** that we're part of a "United Kingdom" or part of "Britain" I Am, The Anti-JoJo.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.02.23 01:31:00 - [24] Am i the ONLY person who's proud of being British?
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.02.23 01:35:00 - [25] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Am i the ONLY person who's proud of being British? I would be, if it were not the fact i have it rammed down my throat everywhere i register, nowhere i can find scotland in the list of "Region's" or whatever the website selects as word choice. its either Britain, or United Kingdom, or in bad cases England. Individuality my ass. I Am, The Anti-JoJo.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.02.23 01:47:00 - [26] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Am i the ONLY person who's proud of being British? I would be, if it were not the fact i have it rammed down my throat everywhere i register, nowhere i can find scotland in the list of "Region's" or whatever the website selects as word choice. its either Britain, or United Kingdom, or in bad cases England. Individuality my ass. Well i think it should be listed, i mean on my ucas i put myself a s dual nationality British/English.. im proud of it i think its a good thing without being fanatical.. together we as the four nations created the greatest empire the world has ever seen, something to be proud of, despite its mistakes! that at least has to merit some pride in the name. Maybe im just old fashioned though!
Cipher7	Posted - 2008.02.23 03:07:00 - [27] I think you people need to leave the Whales alone. They're just innocent creatures of the ocean, no need to add them to any flag.
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.23 10:14:00 - [28] I live in Edinburgh but I call myself British and thats what I take pride in. I just thought the whole Wales thing would be interesting for a debate, I really think devolution was the wrong way to go but alas it won't be till the next general election where I am able to vote. And to be quite honest, I think centralization in Westminster to be what we should do. People tell me Salmond is the epitome of the independence movement but he seems obsessed and changes his facts too much for my liking..... Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.23 14:23:00 - [29] In all seriousness, I don't see why they don't just inset a yellow stripe in. It's Welsh, but it doesn't change the flag drastically enough to ** off all the neo-nationalist types too much. Sticking a ruddy great dragon in the middle is cool, but most non-Welsh won't like it- it makes Wales the single noticeable part of the flag, with the other countries relegated to the background. ------ Originally by:** Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.23 14:25:00 - [30] True patch, I just used that one as the ice breaker to get the topic started because it looks cool. In honestly the yellow stripe sounds the most conservative and acceptable modification so would be the most likely to get through parlaiment. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.

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