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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:52:00 -
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I have a theory, try not to look surprised. Maybe you notice these things, maybe not. Here it is..
Presently, you've got groups like TRI and GS ganking people in empire. No, do not complain.
GS is hitting Exhumer pilots with can flagging, and TRI is suiciding into pimped out Caldari Navy Ravens. On its own, there is not much to talk about. This stuff happens every day.
Two large alliances doing it at the same time is suspicious. When you factor in recent events, you get a possible reasoning for it.
Recruitment.
If you're an experienced PVPer considering a change, looking for groups that do PVP isn't exactly narrowing things down. Rational people will go where they think they'll have the greatest fun. Most of the time, this means going to the alliance that enjoys ****ing others off.
BoB, MC, Ev0ke, KIA and Outbreak became popular choices because they fought with everyone, everywhere. TRI is a popular choice for going against the plans of others, and burning many allied bridges. GoonSwarm has its own language for describing how incredibly easy going they are. RA is up there because they only show up when there's big stuff to kill, and the whole russians = vodka = drunk = comedy stereotype.
The part that explains the empire ganking, is the situation with Tortugans and BoB.
With the Tortugans, many of the alternative choices to BoB disappeared when they got involved in exactly the same kind of warfare. As a result of alienating their core principles and sacrificing some independence, each group suffered internal casualties. In the end it was not as fun as they had imagined. Now they've split ways again, reverting to their previous course of flying around killing stuff wherever they want. How much credibility they get for advertising their 'no politics, no bs' stance is going to stay questionable for a while.
As for the second reason.. When it comes to recruitment today, joining BoB ensures all your PVP desires come true. However, them being backed into a corner makes you consider the increased risks of internal drama and other nasty tension. Even if it never manifests, people looking to join feel like they're gambling somehow.
But when it became apparent the BoB NOL defense was very enthusiastic and GoonSwarm activity is on a downspin, it prompted a reaction by GS. TRI members must of felt it was some kind of preemptive move to poach players leaving the other groups, by asserting themselves as "the most fun alliance ever" through empire ganks.
Whether or not this war ends soon, people feel like it might/should. Alliances are noticing this, and being very opportunistic about it. An important part of the war now is seeing who can poach members the best. It could have just as much impact on bringing it to an end as all the ships killed ever did.
And like I said, it's just a theory. This is how I've interpreted current events, and there is no real evidence to prove it one way or the other. I'm just very amused that for once, the casualties are actually innocent.
Damn carebears. 
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:54:00 -
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Edited by: Junkie Beverage on 26/02/2008 01:53:50
 Originally by: DigitalCommunist
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:55:00 -
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To be fair, he could be on to something.
Did I mention that BoB has bouncy castles?
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Junkie Beverage
memes
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:56:00 -
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oh my god i am sandwiched in between 2 complete pillocks
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Junkie Beverage
oh my god i am a sandwich
Fixed. I'm going to fill the trolling quota myself booya
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:58:00 -
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Interesting perspective.
While talking to an old friend who empire PVP's, I considered joining with an alt for a while, just to randomize things a bit.
Yes, the POS warfare gets stale, the constant moving 150 jumps to get a fight gets stale, and many other things of major 0.0 alliance warfare gets stale.
Now that fights are on my doorstep, life is no longer stale.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:58:00 -
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quit it
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:59:00 -
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you quit it
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Junkie Beverage
oh my god i am sandwiched in between 2 complete pillocks
I haven't actually graduated from pillock college yet, but I'm glad you think I have what it takes.
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Death Mate
Death Mates
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:00:00 -
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Absolutely terrible hypothesis.
One based in completely unfounded logic and truncated thought processes.
No rational thinker could ever arrive at anything close to this conclusion.
May God have mercy on your soul.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:00:00 -
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your not the boss of me
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:01:00 -
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You don't know my alts, maybe I am.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Death Mate
Absolutely terrible hypothesis.
One based in completely unfounded logic and truncated thought processes.
No rational thinker could ever arrive at anything close to this conclusion.
May God have mercy on your soul.
I like how your rational thought process resulted in you praying to an ethereal superbeing.
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Junkie Beverage
your not the boss of me
Why donut you have a go at my post, or the original post, with clear and coherent sentences instead of meme's and one-liners.
And yes, Digi is the boss of you, as am I.
You know not who you are dealing with, for a reason.
Calm down
Furthermore,
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Celedris
Stimulus
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
You don't know my alts, maybe I am.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Junkie Beverage
your not the boss of me
Why donut you have a go at my post, or the original post, with clear and coherent sentences instead of meme's and one-liners.
And yes, Digi is the boss of you, as am I.
You know not who you are dealing with, for a reason.
Calm down
Furthermore,
whats this even mean yo
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Alexi Kalashnikov
Rat Lovers Anonymous
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:05:00 -
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People change things up because people want to log into have fun, if they're not having fun: they go and do something that lets them have fun. People go and ride bikes all the time, this period in time is no different. To take a process, which has been repeating itself time and time again, and say that this new revolution is sparking some kind of new offspin or the like is silly.
Furthermore,
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Alexi Kalashnikov
People change things up because people want to log into have fun, if they're not having fun: they go and do something that lets them have fun. People go and ride bikes all the time, this period in time is no different. To take a process, which has been repeating itself time and time again, and say that this new revolution is sparking some kind of new offspin or the like is silly.
Furthermore,
stop posting
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:09:00 -
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Oh, I know it's not new. The theory is to explain the recent empire ganks, and nothing more.
Only difference now is you're trying extra hard to be chill.
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Nero Winger
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:14:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Winger on 26/02/2008 02:14:31
DC hitting CAOd and makes goons run
/me applaudes
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:15:00 -
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And where does this put EZA and the local chess team?
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:20:00 -
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I don't need cheerleaders or sidekicks when it comes to CAOD. Just say you agree, or go die in a fire. It's really that simple.
Originally by: Kyguard
And where does this put EZA and the local chess team?
Nowhere, because Syndicate is irrelevant as hell even when I'm there :|
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Nookovski
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:20:00 -
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TRI needs to post their CNR popping setups and tactics in this thread stat.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Winger
Edited by: Nero Winger on 26/02/2008 02:14:31
DC hitting CAOd and makes goons run
/me applaudes
~o~
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:22:00 -
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I don't get your ASCII but it hurts, please stop 
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:32:00 -
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Some would have it these acts just re-inforce their position on those two alliances and will repulse them even further.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Desiderata Fabian
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:36:00 -
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Is this the right thread for me to ask if I can join BoB?
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
I don't get your ASCII but it hurts, please stop
no can do see the thing that you dont understand about yt (yours truly) is that posting is in my blood and my family motto is just keep posting dont stop posting dont ever stop posting
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Lea Redux
moon7empler
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.02.26 03:15:00 -
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I think empire ganks as a recruitment tool are not effective to get in 0.0 pvpers. I know i enjoy 10vs10 - 30vs30 fights the most, where the guy at the other computer im shooting at is the challenge, not how to get around gameplay restrictions to make carebears cry, or battle the lag more than the red ships. Dont get me wrong, griefing can be fun, but the people who would join an alliance based on that would most probably go for privateers or some similar empire wardec corp.
Im pretty sure that its in both cases just seasoned pvpers who are looking for something to get a laugh out of, not some permanent trend of vets going to empire spreading mayhem for all eternity.
As for the political stuff you spiced your post with, sounds far-fetched and quite irrelevant to your "theory". Tri has always enjoyed spreading grief, and i believe goonswarm is famous for it. Throwing those other alliances you mentioned into the mix isnt necessary nor sensible imo.
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