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Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.26 19:49:00 - [1] 1, they look the best when you roll them, from a RP (awesome bounty hunter!) perspective, before you learn that it realy dosen't work like that. 2 The Gallente, they are the enemy of the Caldari, their mortal enemy. They are French. This is something bad to be honest, as long as Brits play the game they will RP the future enemies of the French - petty but that was part of the reason I went Caldari. This is just going up as my view and not to derail another thread on a similar topic. Thankyou. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.26 19:52:00 - [2] Missiles always hit. Un*** names on their ships. Characters can be bald. Friends of the jove. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.26 19:53:00 - [3] Two Reasons this thread sucks: 1.) Kirjava 2.) Tired old French jokes. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.02.26 19:55:00 - [4] yea we know. the holy crusaders, and former slaves are also unattractive.
bystander Lightning Fish	Posted - 2008.02.26 19:57:00 - [5] So you represent the feeling of all Brits then?
Bohoba Caldari dragons nest imPure.	Posted - 2008.02.26 20:02:00 - [6] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Missiles always hit. Un*** names on their ships. Characters can be bald. Friends of the jove. a new player knows not about the weapons of eve so that is not the reason. I do remember 4 years ago, while reading the back story and the history of each race I read a caption of the majestic navy raven and said wow I want one of those so Cald it was... to this day I have never owened a navy raven... Windows VistaÖ Ultimate x64-based PC Gigabyte X38-DQ6 Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU Q6850 Memory 4,093.69 MB 2X Crossfire ASUS EAH3870/G/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 3870 512MB
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente	Posted - 2008.02.26 20:05:00 - [7] Intaki ain't French!
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.26 20:07:00 - [8] Originally by: Bohoba Originally by: Danton Marcellus Missiles always hit. Un*** names on their ships. Characters can be bald. Friends of the jove. a new player knows not about the weapons of eve so that is not the reason. I do remember 4 years ago, while reading the back story and the history of each race I read a caption of the majestic navy raven and said wow I want one of those so Cald it was... to this day I have never owened a navy raven... He said nothing about new people. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.02.26 20:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Bohoba Originally by: Danton Marcellus Missiles always hit. Un*** names on their ships. Characters can be bald. Friends of the jove. a new player knows not about the weapons of eve so that is not the reason. I do remember 4 years ago, while reading the back story and the history of each race I read a caption of the majestic navy raven and said wow I want one of those so Cald it was... to this day I have never owened a navy raven... good news - they're cheap as chips now. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Freya Runestone Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.02.26 20:53:00 - [10] Originally by: Kirjava 1, they look the best when you roll them, from a RP (awesome bounty hunter!) perspective, before you learn that it realy dosen't work like that. 2 The Gallente, they are the enemy of the Caldari, their mortal enemy. They are French. This is something bad to be honest, as long as Brits play the game they will RP the future enemies of the French - petty but that was part of the reason I went Caldari. This is just going up as my view and not to derail another thread on a similar topic. Thankyou. And here i thought it was a combination of being the first option(always listed first if memory serves) and being capitalists (be caldari and get rich!)
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2008.02.26 20:53:00 - [11] Originally by: Kirjava 2 The Gallente, they are the enemy of the Caldari, their mortal enemy. They are French. i am NOT FRENCH!!! Nor were my ancestors! They paid their way onboard one of the colonisation ships and eventually did settle in Gallente territory that part is true, but according to my families personal records we came from a small country called the Netherlands. Oh, and i like Caldari ships a lot _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.26 20:59:00 - [12] Originally by: 000Hunter000 Originally by: Kirjava 2 The Gallente, they are the enemy of the Caldari, their mortal enemy. They are French. i am NOT FRENCH!!! Nor were my ancestors! They paid their way onboard one of the colonisation ships and eventually did settle in Gallente territory that part is true, but according to my families personal records we came from a small country called the Netherlands. Oh, and i like Caldari ships a lot So something like your Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Grandparents? Because if you were RPing it would seem really likely you had those records and all that. After all, it's only 23,000 years. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
LeeLee Zar	Posted - 2008.02.26 21:06:00 - [13] Err... your all wrong. Gallente are from South Africa.
Alora Venoda Caldari GalTech Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2008.02.26 21:13:00 - [14] well i originally rolled caldari because they were supposed to be good industrialists, and their attribute layouts reflected it pretty well too. for the most part i am pleased with my decision. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2008.02.26 21:14:00 - [15] The intro movie is to blame imo Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Letouk Mernel	Posted - 2008.02.26 21:15:00 - [16] Everyone will re-roll Gallente once Ambulation gets released and they discover that those transparent-plastic outfits really are transparent, and really extend below what you can see in the current portrait window. And only the Gallente women wear them
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2008.02.26 21:21:00 - [17] Etched in stone my friend, etched in stone only rougly 14000 years _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
Kyra Felann Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2008.02.26 21:39:00 - [18] Originally by: Kirjava 2 The Gallente, they are the enemy of the Caldari, their mortal enemy. They are French. This is something bad to be honest, as long as Brits play the game they will RP the future enemies of the French - petty but that was part of the reason I went Caldari. The Gallente are not French. They are descended from from some French people. It's been probably thousands of years since the Gallente considered themselves "French" and I'm sure there has been at least some interbreeding in that time. As far as I know, the English are mainly descended from Vikings (with some Celtic ancestry too, I'm sure). Does that mean English = Vikings? I'm sorry the whole Gallente = French = lol thing gets on my nerves after a while.
Danjira Ryuujin Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.26 21:52:00 - [19] Achura also arguably have the best starting attribute set. The ability to have very high intelligence and very high perception means newbies can train learning, support, and ship skills quickly. Amarr - Annoying the Eve Community since 2005
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Letouk Mernel Everyone will re-roll Gallente once Ambulation gets released and they discover that those transparent-plastic outfits really are transparent, and really extend below what you can see in the current portrait window. And only the Gallente women wear them I'll get another account to be able to have gallente women standing around the office all day. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
anti disestablishment Caldari Erectile Disfunction	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:16:00 - [21] Originally by: Kirjava 2 The Gallente, they are the enemy of the Caldari, their mortal enemy. They are French. This is something bad to be honest, as long as Brits play the game they will RP the future enemies of the French - petty but that was part of the reason I went Caldari. Reasons why your wrong: 1/ Caldari are blatantly the americans of Eve. AND 2/ The Americans are historically allies of the French. Therefore the whole Brits + RP + French thing is wrong. They don;t necessarily look the coolest, Minmatar + Amarr Females look pretty merciless tbh... Originally by: Derek Sigres The Manticore - the things are built out of dreams and soggy newsprint to make room for the launchers.
Kahega Amielden	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:20:00 - [22] Quote: 1/ Caldari are blatantly the americans of Eve. How?
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:25:00 - [23] I originally rolled Caldari because the few player guides available at the time had Civire listed for the "example" race, with the skill choices and attributes mapped out so you'd get a good amount of starting SP and fairly good combat attributes. I didn't want to screw up so I just went with the example. Obviously, this was possible with other races... but there you go.
Garrett Smith ARK-CORP RONA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:26:00 - [24] Edited by: Garrett Smith on 26/02/2008 22:26:56 Quote: Reasons why your wrong: 1/ Caldari are blatantly the americans of Eve. AND 2/ The Americans are historically allies of the French. Therefore the whole Brits + RP + French thing is wrong. They don;t necessarily look the coolest, Minmatar + Amarr Females look pretty merciless tbh... #1 is correct. I chose Caldari because they are capitalist and sounded like good old America where I'm from. They also looked the least "out there" with weird hairstyles and stuff. #2 is wrong. It is a well known fact that the French, especially Parisians are ungrateful snobs. All Americans know this and dislike the French. Basically people see "French" and are immediately turned off by Gallente, however I love their ships and only fly them.
Kahega Amielden	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:29:00 - [25] Erm..if you read the backstory, Caldari are hardcore authoritarian corporatists...Didn't see anything there that made 'em look American to me. Gallente are the most similar to America/most of the Western nations
anti disestablishment Caldari Erectile Disfunction	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:29:00 - [26] Originally by: Garrett Smith #2 is wrong. It is a well known fact that the French, especially Parisians are ungrateful snobs. All Americans know this and dislike the French. Basically people see "French" and are immediately turned off by Gallente Well done. Both a gross oversimplification of Parisian people and a blatant, and frankly ridiculous, generalisation as to the thoughts of "All americans" Originally by: Derek Sigres The Manticore - the things are built out of dreams and soggy newsprint to make room for the launchers.
Alora Venoda Caldari GalTech Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:32:00 - [27] Originally by: Danjira Ryuujin Achura also arguably have the best starting attribute set. The ability to have very high intelligence and very high perception means newbies can train learning, support, and ship skills quickly. I highly considered rolling one, but their avatars are fugly and their attributes reflect that as well with very low charisma. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
anti disestablishment Caldari Erectile Disfunction	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:33:00 - [28] Edited by: anti disestablishment on 26/02/2008 22:34:35 Originally by: Garrett Smith #2 is wrong. It is a well known fact that the French, especially Parisians are ungrateful snobs. All Americans know this and dislike the French. Basically people see "French" and are immediately turned off by Gallente Well done. Both a gross oversimplification of Parisian people and a blatant, and frankly ridiculous, generalisation as to the thoughts of "All americans" If you disagree with me and want to prove me wrong why not actually try instead of spouting trivial comments. ******* Granted Kahega, Well I see the Caldari as uber capitalistic, which I see as quite similar to American culture. I see a very military orientated culture, which I see as quite similar to American culture. Perhaps it is my first impression of the game jumping in here but they are also the only race which appears, at face value, to be a super power. That is the way I see it. It's not exactly clear cut who is who but to me the Caldari as the least ambiguous of the races. Originally by:** Derek Sigres The Manticore - the things are built out of dreams and soggy newsprint to make room for the launchers.
Sahkaedu Orinvi	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:34:00 - [29] Originally by: Garrett Smith Edited by: Garrett Smith on 26/02/2008 22:26:56 Quote: Reasons why your wrong: 1/ Caldari are blatantly the americans of Eve. AND 2/ The Americans are historically allies of the French. Therefore the whole Brits + RP + French thing is wrong. They don;t necessarily look the coolest, Minmatar + Amarr Females look pretty merciless tbh... #1 is correct. I chose Caldari because they are capitalist and sounded like good old America where I'm from. They also looked the least "out there" with weird hairstyles and stuff. #2 is wrong. It is a well known fact that the French, especially Parisians are ungrateful snobs. All Americans know this and dislike the French. Basically people see "French" and are immediately turned off by Gallente, however I love their ships and only fly them. Actually #1 is wrong. The Caldari are blatantly a mixture of Russian and Asian cultures. Look at the names of their solar systems, how they look, and their ship designs! The ships are pure military, the solarsystem names are generally either Chinese sounding or Russian sounding, and their appearance is EASILY 'Standard Russian' save for the Bloodlines race which is blatant oriental (like all other bloodlines XD ) And you're wrong about #1 for another reason. American's aren't capitalistic. At least not like the Caldari are. Americans rely heavily on capitalism, yes, but it doesn't control anything. The ruling government body does. The Caldari State is a Capitalistic State. Totalarian Government. Like Communism (Russia and China. The two most easily recognizable race bases in the Caldari). Nothing like America is right now. #2 is bull**, too. The french aren't ungrateful snobs. They just can't fight worth a **. They got soft because of their culture. They're well known for being some of the most artistic people in the world, along with some of the best with food, wines, other spirits, and entertainment. The Gallente in EvE may be of French origin, but obviously they've reverted to what I like to call "Napoleanism". In other words. They can bloody well fight.
Belco Ssefeaba Gallente	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:41:00 - [30] Originally by: Garrett Smith #2 is wrong. It is a well known fact that the French, especially Parisians are ungrateful snobs. All Americans know this and dislike the French. Basically people see "French" and are immediately turned off by Gallente, however I love their ships and only fly them. No. Just no.
Garrett Smith ARK-CORP RONA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:44:00 - [31] Originally by: Belco Ssefeaba Originally by: Garrett Smith #2 is wrong. It is a well known fact that the French, especially Parisians are ungrateful snobs. All Americans know this and dislike the French. Basically people see "French" and are immediately turned off by Gallente, however I love their ships and only fly them. No. Just no. Hahaha. Of course you would say no... you are Gallente.
Belco Ssefeaba Gallente	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:47:00 - [32] Edited by: Belco Ssefeaba on 26/02/2008 22:47:20 Originally by: Garrett Smith Originally by: Belco Ssefeaba Originally by: Garrett Smith #2 is wrong. It is a well known fact that the French, especially Parisians are ungrateful snobs. All Americans know this and dislike the French. Basically people see "French" and are immediately turned off by Gallente, however I love their ships and only fly them. No. Just no. Hahaha. Of course you would say no... you are Gallente. Originally by: Garrett Smith I'm sorry, have you been to Paris? They are obviously ungratefully snobs, and anyone disagreeing with me is foolish and uninformed. I say "All Americans" because the vast majority of Americans dislike the French. The number of Americans that like the French is statistically insignificant, so PLEASE take your obvious bias toward French people elsewhere. I have been to Paris, I didn't encounter one single discourteous person while I was there. Paris is a beautiful, cultured city with a sophisticated population. Please, for the sake of not clogging up the forum's bandwidth with trivial, bigoted bull** - Shut up.**
Glassbil	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:56:00 - [33] Edited by: Glassbil on 26/02/2008 22:57:02 Quote: Originally by: Belco Ssefeaba Stuff Hahaha. Of course you would say no... you are Gallente. Originally by: Garrett Smith Other stuff I have been to Paris, I didn't encounter one single discourteous person while I was there. Paris is a beautiful, cultured city with a sophisticated population. Please, for the sake of not clogging up the forum's bandwidth with trivial, bigoted bull** - Shut up.** You've obviously never encountered sarcasm/trolling before :D
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:56:00 - [34] Wow, 'why I chose caldari' in game, degenerates into RL bigotry and racism in less than two pages. Very big and clever. Oh yes. I chose Caldari, because I like the cyberpunk genre, and Caldari sounded pretty close. I liked the 'militaristic and organised' part too. The fact that their faces look approximately human was just a bonus. For sure I had no clue as to what the implications of Caldari ships, in terms of game balance were, nor did I have any idea as to the relevance of stats. Gallente seemed hedonistic wishy-washy liberals. Amarr had the 'omg slaver' stereotype. Minmatar have the 'tribal-ex-slaves' thing going on. Caldari ... was the logical, and attractive alternative. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking?
Garrett Smith ARK-CORP RONA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:57:00 - [35] Hahahahaha... I love to stir the pot.
Glassbil	Posted - 2008.02.26 22:58:00 - [36] Originally by: Garrett Smith Hahahahaha... I love to stir the pot. Of course, It's just too funny when people can't tell what you're doing, Even though it should be obvious XD
Garrett Smith ARK-CORP RONA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:01:00 - [37] Originally by: Glassbil Originally by: Garrett Smith Hahahahaha... I love to stir the pot. Of course, It's just too funny when people can't tell what you're doing, Even though it should be obvious XD I'm just glad somebody caught on... I thought I went overboard enough in my posts, but obviously not enough for some.
Glassbil	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:03:00 - [38] Eh, People tend to be a bit dense on teh intrawebz
Dai Nau Mothership Connection Inc. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:06:00 - [39] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Missiles always hit. lol
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:06:00 - [40] We're stirring the pot? The amarr are of course the americans, it's pretty blantant. Religeous zealots with a claim to the whole galaxy. I don't mind but don't pretend the similarities aren't there. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Belco Ssefeaba Gallente	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:11:00 - [41] Edited by: Belco Ssefeaba on 26/02/2008 23:12:13 Edited by: Belco Ssefeaba on 26/02/2008 23:11:18 Edited by: Belco Ssefeaba on 26/02/2008 23:10:53 Originally by: Garrett Smith Originally by: Glassbil Originally by: Garrett Smith Hahahahaha... I love to stir the pot. Of course, It's just too funny when people can't tell what you're doing, Even though it should be obvious XD I'm just glad somebody caught on... I thought I went overboard enough in my posts, but obviously not enough for some. Sarcasm is rather hard to detect through text. I've encountered a lot of over-the-top racism is on the net, particularly on forums, so I took it seriously without thinking you could be kidding. That being said, I'm glad you weren't serious. Sorry for my defensiveness.
Glassbil	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:14:00 - [42] Edited by: Glassbil on 26/02/2008 23:14:49 Originally by: Belco Ssefeaba Sarcasm is rather hard to detect through text. Over-the-top racism is actually rather common on the internet, particularly on forums, so I took it seriously without thinking you could be kidding. That being said, I'm glad you weren't serious. Sorry for my defensiveness. Quote: I'm sorry, have you been to Paris? They are obviously ungratefully snobs, and anyone disagreeing with me is foolish and uninformed. I say "All Americans" because the vast majority of Americans dislike the French. The number of Americans that like the French is statistically insignificant, so PLEASE take your obvious bias toward French people elsewhere. Awww, Come on, Don't you find the whole "Anyone disagreeing with me is foolish and uninformed" comment kinda obvious? Especially after the accusation of your "Obvious bias towards french" Took me about two seconds to see it. ^^
Adarr Caldari g guild Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:16:00 - [43] Originally by: Wendat Huron We're stirring the pot? The amarr are of course the americans, it's pretty blantant. Religeous zealots with a claim to the whole galaxy. Actually they're an offshoot of the Catholic Church, as per EVE's official storyline
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:20:00 - [44] Originally by: Adarr Originally by: Wendat Huron We're stirring the pot? The amarr are of course the americans, it's pretty blantant. Religeous zealots with a claim to the whole galaxy. Actually they're an offshoot of the Catholic Church, as per EVE's official storyline Proof... These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Aprudena Gist Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:27:00 - [45] achura has the best starting attributes.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:30:00 - [46] Shields. I rolled Caldari because I understood the notion of shield tanking intuitively. ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:31:00 - [47] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Shields. I rolled Caldari because I understood the notion of shield tanking intuitively. You sure it wasn't so you could wear an 80s cyan vest? These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:33:00 - [48] Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: Adonis 4174 Shields. I rolled Caldari because I understood the notion of shield tanking intuitively. You sure it wasn't so you could wear an 80s cyan vest? Nobody told me I wouldn't be able to change my shirt in 3 years. Hurry up with ambulation already, it's starting to fray around the armpits and I need a new outfit pronto! ---- Anything less is wasted effort
ZerKar Caldari Zen'Tar	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:41:00 - [49] I have to admit being the enemy of the French was part of my reasoning as well. Do not like them for the most part. Caldari are also very cold and calculating something I can empathize with. Also it seemed to make it out like they were a serious military force to be reckoned with that could whipe the floor with the Gallente, HAHAHAHAHAAAA! Nice thought. For the guy who said missiles always hit, my Nanophoon disagrees with you. +++++++++++++++ For the LAST time... Keep your UGLY Typhoon off my SEXY Hurricane
Jmanis Catharg Caldari Stickler inc	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:45:00 - [50] I just chose Caldari Deteis as my main because I had the "Reknown Ship Commander" complex when I signed up, Deteis looked the most militaristic, disciplined bunch. And their uniforms are great :)
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:50:00 - [51] Originally by: ZerKar I have to admit being the enemy of the French was part of my reasoning as well. Do not like them for the most part. Caldari are also very cold and calculating something I can empathize with. Also it seemed to make it out like they were a serious military force to be reckoned with that could whipe the floor with the Gallente, HAHAHAHAHAAAA! Nice thought. For the guy who said missiles always hit, my Nanophoon disagrees with you. There is no nanophoon. As for the french part, while I don't care for nationalistic tendencies in this game or any game in general I foresaw this dislike of the french, for whatever reason it might be, it seems to just be the in thing these days and I went for the frogs just in spite, pure defiance, true gallente. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
anti disestablishment Caldari Erectile Disfunction	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:57:00 - [52] Originally by: Garrett Smith Originally by: anti disestablishment Originally by: Garrett Smith #2 is wrong. It is a well known fact that the French, especially Parisians are ungrateful snobs. All Americans know this and dislike the French. Basically people see "French" and are immediately turned off by Gallente Well done. Both a gross oversimplification of Parisian people and a blatant, and frankly ridiculous, generalisation as to the thoughts of "All americans" I'm sorry, have you been to Paris? They are obviously ungratefully snobs, and anyone disagreeing with me is foolish and uninformed. I say "All Americans" because the vast majority of Americans dislike the French. The number of Americans that like the French is statistically insignificant, so PLEASE take your obvious bias toward French people elsewhere. 1/ You said "all americans". 2/ Yes I have been to Paris. I am unbiased towards the French, I have seen aspects of their national personality that I like and dislike. I am however biased towards people who make statements like you did: "all americans" suddenly turning into "the vast majority of" and also claiming that an entire nation (thats what, 300 million people?) flatly dislikes another (entire) nation of people. Even if it were true, which it is not, I doubt you should be the authority to state it. My problem is not with what you believe, it is the way you said it. I couldn't care less if you're stupid enough to believe what you said but to try and deconstruct what I said with obviously flawed statements which are devoid of truth is just insulting. No harm done however. Originally by: Derek Sigres The Manticore - the things are built out of dreams and soggy newsprint to make room for the launchers.
Orgos Khenn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.02.26 23:58:00 - [53] There's one very prominent reason that is probably more important than any other. 1) They aren't Amarr. Note: this isn't an Amarr whine. I personally like the fact that their ships suck before you get into a Battleship. ---- One day...one day General will be worth reading.
Ikasu Gallente Scrutari The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2008.02.27 00:00:00 - [54] If I remember correctly, only the Gallente main bloodline are related to the French, and considering that ancestral tie is extremely old, it seems weird to consider this valid. Caldari are the most common race for several reasons but, i'm sorry, you can't really tie it to blood origin, not EVERYBODY is that conceited. None the less, Gallente 4tw. I'm sorry, but drones man....drones. Amarr need more love though. Seriously. For the biggest Empire nobody plays the,/ -------------------------------------------------- My post does not represent views of my Alliance. Eve is different, in Eve there are actual Heroes and Villains. Build your Legacy!
Vikarion Caldari United Heavens	Posted - 2008.02.27 00:09:00 - [55] I also chose the Caldari because they seem to be a fusion of American/Japanese culture. In my opinion, both America and Japan are relatively family/duty-oriented (despite our media), dedicated to working hard, and heavily capitalist. For example, a disproportionate amount of mega-corporations in RL are American or Japanese. I also considered Amarr or Gallente...the Gallente are very engaging, and I consider them to be an amalgamation of modern European countries. Very focused on the rights of the individual, freedom, and the arts. (Sorry, my fellow Americans, but Europe often outstrips us there.) The Amarr seem to be drawn from a mix of Catholic and Eastern Orthodox ancestries. In fact, the Amarr remind me of nothing so much as the Byzantine Empire. Huge, ungainly, and very bureaucratic. The Minmatar are, of course, the third world in many ways, though also young, strong, and growing fast. Go minnie! This is, of course, my perspective. I mainly chose them because I value many of the same things the Caldari are said to embody: duty, family, and work. Yes, I am a RPer. --------
Depp Knight Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.27 00:11:00 - [56] Actually the people who get refered to the game also get taught and you have to admit, Caldari ships are the easiest to understand. Missiles use no cap, always hit so tracking isnt a problem. Optimal and falloff isnt a problem you just need to work out flight time etc. Shield boosting is easier that armor reps cause its quick.
Belco Ssefeaba Gallente	Posted - 2008.02.27 00:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Glassbil Edited by: Glassbil on 26/02/2008 23:14:49 Originally by: Belco Ssefeaba Sarcasm is rather hard to detect through text. Over-the-top racism is actually rather common on the internet, particularly on forums, so I took it seriously without thinking you could be kidding. That being said, I'm glad you weren't serious. Sorry for my defensiveness. Quote: I'm sorry, have you been to Paris? They are obviously ungratefully snobs, and anyone disagreeing with me is foolish and uninformed. I say "All Americans" because the vast majority of Americans dislike the French. The number of Americans that like the French is statistically insignificant, so PLEASE take your obvious bias toward French people elsewhere. Awww, Come on, Don't you find the whole "Anyone disagreeing with me is foolish and uninformed" comment kinda obvious? Especially after the accusation of your "Obvious bias towards french" Took me about two seconds to see it. ^^ I actually didn't read that part. I got as far as "ungrateful snobs" and hit the reply button. Guess I need to be a bit more careful from now on
Frug True Foundation	Posted - 2008.02.27 00:21:00 - [58] 450 million isk CNRs Achura. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.27 00:24:00 - [59] Well you do have a point. The 4 choices (from a role-play perspective) are: 1) fascist holy empire, 2) rag tag ex-slaves, 3) narcissistic, meddling descendants of the French, and 4) high tech and highly talented soldiers who won a war of independence. Its not hard to see why 4) is so much more popular, to the uninitiated noob. Its also always struck me as odd why the Gallente are described as "descended from the French". I mean it's obviously not a problem for me (seeing as I picked it), but it seems so unnecessary. The games is set 10's of thousands of years in the future, after a perioid of massive colonization, a huge catastrophic dark age, and a complete rebuilding of society from the stone age and up. What possible relevance does the "French" thing have? Its not like all the others have got a similar label- Gallente are the only group in the game to have their specific, pre-EVE-gate origins spelled out, and I can't honestly see why. And bearing in mind RL cultural biases, it seems positively counter-productive. ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
AndrewRyan	Posted - 2008.02.27 00:40:00 - [60] Before I created my character I read through the racial backstorys on the website and it was Caldari and Gallente that interested me but a militaristic corporate run superpower was what interested me the most because that and the artwork made me think of bladerunner. Originally by: Malcanis Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
Mithrantir Ob'lontra Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2008.02.27 00:42:00 - [61] Edited by: Mithrantir Ob''lontra on 27/02/2008 00:42:30 Originally by: Patch86 Well you do have a point. The 4 choices (from a role-play perspective) are: 1) fascist holy empire, 2) rag tag ex-slaves, 3) narcissistic, meddling descendants of the French, and 4) high tech and highly talented soldiers who won a war of independence. Its not hard to see why 4) is so much more popular, to the uninitiated noob. Its also always struck me as odd why the Gallente are described as "descended from the French". I mean it's obviously not a problem for me (seeing as I picked it), but it seems so unnecessary. The games is set 10's of thousands of years in the future, after a perioid of massive colonization, a huge catastrophic dark age, and a complete rebuilding of society from the stone age and up. What possible relevance does the "French" thing have? Its not like all the others have got a similar label- Gallente are the only group in the game to have their specific, pre-EVE-gate origins spelled out, and I can't honestly see why. And bearing in mind RL cultural biases, it seems positively counter-productive. The really funny thing is that many of the ships names are not French, but Greek. I think that there was a subconscious mistake when describing the Gallente, they wanted to be the European part of the races that consisted EVE (logically one power block in ancient earth would be European Union). ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
Yayablabla	Posted - 2008.02.27 01:35:00 - [62] Most players are from USA, also a militiaristic corporate run super-power.
Chirruper	Posted - 2008.02.27 01:47:00 - [63] I have to say Amarr appealed to me the most, but I like playing zealots. The only thing more fun than massacre is good ol' fashioned Pope-sanctioned massacre.
Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2008.02.27 01:51:00 - [64] Originally by: Garrett Smith Originally by: anti disestablishment Originally by: Garrett Smith #2 is wrong. It is a well known fact that the French, especially Parisians are ungrateful snobs. All Americans know this and dislike the French. Basically people see "French" and are immediately turned off by Gallente Well done. Both a gross oversimplification of Parisian people and a blatant, and frankly ridiculous, generalisation as to the thoughts of "All americans" I'm sorry, have you been to Paris? They are obviously ungratefully snobs, and anyone disagreeing with me is foolish and uninformed. I say "All Americans" because the vast majority of Americans dislike the French. The number of Americans that like the French is statistically insignificant, so PLEASE take your obvious bias toward French people elsewhere. Your statements are ignorant. The fact that you feel you have the right to judge how ALL the french are based on your limited experiences during the span of your puny insignificant lifetime makes me sick. Along your same line of reasoning I could say that Americans dislike the french because they see so much of themselves in the french. Arrogant, ungrateful snobs. That is of course, if I were to use your same line of reasoning, I'm nowhere near that ignorant however. I mean wow, are you just dumb or something?
Chirruper	Posted - 2008.02.27 01:56:00 - [65] Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Your statements are ignorant. The fact that you feel you have the right to judge how ALL the french are based on your limited experiences during the span of your puny insignificant lifetime makes me sick. Along your same line of reasoning I could say that Americans dislike the french because they see so much of themselves in the french. Arrogant, ungrateful snobs. That is of course, if I were to use your same line of reasoning, I'm nowhere near that ignorant however. Its called hyperbole. There is a lot of truth in that the average American has a more hostile disposition towards French than any other country whether anyone else feels its justified or not. That would be the statement without hyperbole. Try reading the subtext before you get butt-hurt.
Faizaniel Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2008.02.27 02:20:00 - [66] Originally by: Chirruper I have to say Amarr appealed to me the most, but I like playing zealots. The only thing more fun than massacre is good ol' fashioned Pope-sanctioned massacre. Amen. ----------------------------------------------------- With the guidance of our Lord and our Emperor, I shall crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the lamentations of their women.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Cult of Rawr	Posted - 2008.02.27 02:22:00 - [67] Originally by: Kirjava they look the best Oh, you think?
Stovetop Cookie	Posted - 2008.02.27 02:27:00 - [68] Someone who got me into the game suggested I be Caldari. Since I didn't know any better, I figured ok. I would much rather have been Amarr, but having over 6 million skillpoints into this character I may as well stick with it.
Aleksandr Cirtus Caldari Stronghold corp CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.02.27 02:33:00 - [69] Being a relatively aged Caldari character, I can honestly say I compared Missiles and Turrets, and Shields and Armor, them being the tactical styles of the four races. I just liked the general idea of shields and missiles, so my decision was made. I didn't look at the gameplay of them, just my personality shining through influencing my pick. Aleksandr Cirtus Senior Knight and Ghost Fleet Pilot of Stronghold Originally by: Vile rat Excuse me we have standards. They are pretty low but we do have them.
Recalesence	Posted - 2008.02.27 02:34:00 - [70] Originally by: Letouk Mernel Everyone will re-roll Gallente once Ambulation gets released and they discover that those transparent-plastic outfits really are transparent, and really extend below what you can see in the current portrait window. And only the Gallente women wear them way ahead of you.
Chirruper	Posted - 2008.02.27 02:38:00 - [71] Originally by: Recalesence Originally by: Letouk Mernel Everyone will re-roll Gallente once Ambulation gets released and they discover that those transparent-plastic outfits really are transparent, and really extend below what you can see in the current portrait window. And only the Gallente women wear them way ahead of you. Funny thing about this: you can actually see a Gallente female in a full outfit on the billboards. It is quite disappointing.
Isiskhan Gnostic Misanthropy	Posted - 2008.02.27 03:09:00 - [72] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Originally by: Kirjava they look the best Oh, you think? Going by your new set of signatures, they sure do.
Uzuness Caldari stone grave haulage PROBABLE CAUSE	Posted - 2008.02.27 03:14:00 - [73] I don't know why I went Caldari. I think it was due to the backstory thing, and how the Caldari are all noble and stuff. I'd rather be Amarr, to be honest. I love their ships.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.02.27 03:37:00 - [74] Originally by: Uzuness I don't know why I went Caldari. I think it was due to the backstory thing, and how the Caldari are all noble and stuff. I'd rather be Amarr, to be honest. I love their ships. Noble? Where did you get that notion, they're calculated backstabbing and stuck up but then again that could be your very definition of the word noble. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Cipher7	Posted - 2008.02.27 04:37:00 - [75] Gallente dont look French, they look like the people who live in San Francisco, French people look better than that. Caldari look better, plus they have a cooler description, plus they're great for NPCing.
Rabbitgod Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.02.27 05:32:00 - [76] Edited by: Rabbitgod on 27/02/2008 05:33:59 Originally by: Kirjava 1, they look the best when you roll them, from a RP (awesome bounty hunter!) perspective, before you learn that it realy dosen't work like that. 2 The Gallente, they are the enemy of the Caldari, their mortal enemy. They are French. This is something bad to be honest, as long as Brits play the game they will RP the future enemies of the French - petty but that was part of the reason I went Caldari. This is just going up as my view and not to derail another thread on a similar topic. Thankyou. Bonjour, I'm going to find you and I'm going to brake off a loaf of La Baguette in your ***.
major lulz11	Posted - 2008.02.27 06:10:00 - [77] look at my avatar. I AM completely naked. <3
Cid Gurung	Posted - 2008.02.27 06:21:00 - [78] Edited by: Cid Gurung on 27/02/2008 06:22:16 The only reason i rolled Caldari was because their race collage had a beautiful woman with a HUGE rail-gun/sniper thing, and it was steel blue... /is it just me or do Caldari look sorta **** Germany like? //godwined ///did not know it was censored...
Manic Smile Tau Ceti Global Production SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.27 07:06:00 - [79] Edited by: Manic Smile on 27/02/2008 07:08:37 Edited by: Manic Smile on 27/02/2008 07:07:16 Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: 000Hunter000 Originally by: Kirjava 2 The Gallente, they are the enemy of the Caldari, their mortal enemy. They are French. i am NOT FRENCH!!! Nor were my ancestors! They paid their way onboard one of the colonisation ships and eventually did settle in Gallente territory that part is true, but according to my families personal records we came from a small country called the Netherlands. Oh, and i like Caldari ships a lot So something like your Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Grandparents? Because if you were RPing it would seem really likely you had those records and all that. After all, it's only 23,000 years. edited for hyperbole I have the names of my ancestors going back 180 generations(180 name pairs) or so first recorded about ~50 years ago from oral tradition...so yea it can happen.
Chucky Honour Bound G Thanks Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.27 07:52:00 - [80] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: Adonis 4174 Shields. I rolled Caldari because I understood the notion of shield tanking intuitively. You sure it wasn't so you could wear an 80s cyan vest? Nobody told me I wouldn't be able to change my shirt in 3 years. Hurry up with ambulation already, it's starting to fray around the armpits and I need a new outfit pronto! Hay! I've been wearing the same shirt for almost 5 years now! And I'll change it when I'm damn good and ready! Oh your talking about the avatar shirt ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.02.27 08:05:00 - [81] Originally I went caldari because it was considered to be the EWar race of choice (Blackbird/scorp midslot frenzy), since then that has changed a lot though.
Stoggaf Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.02.27 08:08:00 - [82] France is better than Britain.. :3
Summer's End Caldari Intel 7	Posted - 2008.02.27 09:22:00 - [83] Because my portrait screams evil ****. :D When you can't run, you crawl, and when you can't crawl - when you can't do that...You find someone to carry you.*
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.27 09:38:00 - [84] Edited by: Kirjava on 27/02/2008 09:40:14 Okay, I am laughing at how this has gone. My point I tried to make about the French thing is why? Why on Earth do you name a specific race as essentially the French? It just seems naive on CCP's part that this won't affect people when picking for the RP. The rivalry between France and Britain is staggering still so why put it in? AnAnarchist, not trying to target anyone but CCP labeled the Gallente as French and poked the bees nest on that one, if the Minmatar were Italian it would have been the same thread about that. Point is, I hope someone in CCP has read this and sends someone a memo to get the French description out of the Gallente, I know the Caldari are supposed to be Japanese/Finnish but thats not what new peeps see first. I also did call it petty in the OP for what it's worth but a few people seem to have overlooked what I thought of it. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2008.02.27 09:59:00 - [85] 1. Description: Militaristic capitalists, the only democracy, freed slaves/underdogs, religious zealots/slavers. Hmm, I know where I'm signing up! 2. Stats: Caldari (and not just Achuras) have the lowest base Charisma overall. I actually picked Deteis for good int/mem with balanced other stats, but I am glad the bloodline choice kept me from REALLY screwing myself in Per/Will (Intaki 3 perception WTF?). Pretty much, Caldari base builds have the stats where they matter (Per/Int) more so than most races do. Khanid Cyberknights and Brutor Slave Children notwithstanding. 3. Kestrel/Caracal/Drake/Raven is easy mode for PVE. Adapting them for PVP takes some work, though, as most Caldari ships are pants solo. Scram and MWD in tank slots ftl. . . though I admit they'd be imbalanced if they didn't have to make that tradeoff. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.02.27 11:18:00 - [86] Edited by: Qui Shon on 27/02/2008 11:20:05 You mean none of you guys used up a trial account or two to get a picture of what the game is like? Eve attribute and skill system makes it very clear Charisma is the dumpstat, even for a jack of all trades like me. Really, only exception is fleet command, or maybe alliance/corp management and trading to some extent. So, Achura it is. What makes the choice even easier is that faction means so very little, if anything at all. Which I think is great, you should never be locked and pigeonholed in a sandbox game. As for making the choice for RP reasons, well, Gallente without a doubt. Freedom and democracy, clearly more important then anything else.
Laila Eldgorn	Posted - 2008.02.27 11:26:00 - [87] Originally by: Dai Nau Originally by: Danton Marcellus Missiles always hit. lol ...for 0.0 damage
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.27 11:28:00 - [88] Originally by: Qui Shon As for making the choice for RP reasons, well, Gallente without a doubt. Freedom and democracy, clearly more important then anything else. From a RP POV, I personaly loathe freedom and deomocracy in the game. Why? Because I play a game where I am merciless and in which we build empires and piracy. From a RP pov I would have chosen Ammar, but I am not hardcore RPer but it's different person to person, or there would be no RP other than Gallente. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.

CCP Navigator C C P	Posted - 2008.02.27 11:30:00 - [89] This thread could have been interesting if the real life bigotry and anti Insert country here ramblings had not been introduced. EVE Online is set many thousands of years removed from the Earth of old. French, American, Russian, British etc are as distant a memory as cavemen are to us today. In the NEW Eden Universe you can roleplay Amarr, Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar. References to real life Nations is completely irrelevant. This thread will be locked since moderating out all of the racial rubbish would make it look horrible. For future reference you should all be advised that posts which are blatantly bigoted or racist will earn you a warning and possible ban. Navigator, Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang


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