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Natsuki Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.27 20:38:00 - [61] this is obvious flamebait. ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
Sebea STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.02.27 20:42:00 - [62] Originally by: Athena Attom Originally by: Sebea Originally by: Xonax Jyria BOB still has shipyards all over delve, they are replacing their capital losses and strengthen their fleet. I've highlighted the areas that allow me to say your full of s**t. How would you know? Seriously. lol just quoting this for lol'z when someone posts pictures. i think you missed the other part i highlighted where he said he didnt know where the war was being fought....kinda hard to not know where the fighting is and still know that you have shipyards pumping out ships. everybody fighting knows you have them, but its not common knowledge to the other 80% of eve that lives in empire. Especially the percentage relevant to the OP claiming ignorance of the conflict...
Spaja Saist Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.02.27 20:46:00 - [63] Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 27/02/2008 20:31:08 Originally by: Spaja Saist Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 27/02/2008 14:34:31 Most of the band wagoners who decided to join the coalition joined cos they were afraid of BOB kicking their ass and taking their space so they were willing to endure frozen screens and other crap for those very reasons. Now that BOB has been pushed back a lot of the coalition has realized that they are no longer under threat of losing their space and all they are doing is losing ships and watching a frozen screen so RAGOON can gain space and brag about it on CAOD. Lets face it RAGOON has already screwed over by stealing a titan and reset a lot of the drone area who helped take branch from BOB pets (i thought it was just BOB who screwed their allies). The good thing about this is that we may finaly see if goons can put their money where their very large and noisy mouths have been and manage to defeat BOB solo. Personaly i doubt it. Now I'm not on either side and I really don't care who wins but you really need to get your facts straight. RA did not steal a titan. The GMs gave it back. Also it was not from a member of their alliance. Just some small alliance begging for protection. 1. They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back. 2. Getting caught stealing or after you have stolen and the property getting returned still makes you a thief. 3. I did not say it was a member of their alliance i said it was an ally. Why they were an ally is irrelavant RA still tried to screw an ally. I suggest you learn how to read properly and check your own facts before you tell me to get my facts right. 1. Like I said they never stole it since they weren't allowed to keep it. It was as if it never happened. 2. See 1. 3. They weren't an ally. Just some alliance promising them cheap ships if they protected them. Then they expected them to fight for them against one of RA's true allies. The bitterness and hostility in your post is telling. I think you take this game way too seriously. To be this upset over Redswarm is really unhealthy. BOB were the big bad alliance that treated everyone with disrespect while flogging their own egos. Now it's another groups turn. And at some point Redswarm will probably be in the same position as BOB. If there's anything I've learned from playing this game since release it's that power blocs always change. Getting upset over the current events is just silly.
Sebea STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.02.27 20:47:00 - [64] Originally by: marakor 1. They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back. you realize that stealing is a legal game mechanic in EVE and it has little to do with the titans return right? you can steal in this game and get away with it, the GM's will NOT give back what was stolen unless a game mechanic was violated in the process. Originally by: marakor I suggest you learn how to read properly and check your own facts before you tell me to get my facts right. quoted this as it seems relevant more to you than to others
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.02.27 20:55:00 - [65] Originally by: Spaja Saist Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 27/02/2008 20:31:08 Originally by: Spaja Saist Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 27/02/2008 14:34:31 Most of the band wagoners who decided to join the coalition joined cos they were afraid of BOB kicking their ass and taking their space so they were willing to endure frozen screens and other crap for those very reasons. Now that BOB has been pushed back a lot of the coalition has realized that they are no longer under threat of losing their space and all they are doing is losing ships and watching a frozen screen so RAGOON can gain space and brag about it on CAOD. Lets face it RAGOON has already screwed over by stealing a titan and reset a lot of the drone area who helped take branch from BOB pets (i thought it was just BOB who screwed their allies). The good thing about this is that we may finaly see if goons can put their money where their very large and noisy mouths have been and manage to defeat BOB solo. Personaly i doubt it. Now I'm not on either side and I really don't care who wins but you really need to get your facts straight. RA did not steal a titan. The GMs gave it back. Also it was not from a member of their alliance. Just some small alliance begging for protection. 1. They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back. 2. Getting caught stealing or after you have stolen and the property getting returned still makes you a thief. 3. I did not say it was a member of their alliance i said it was an ally. Why they were an ally is irrelavant RA still tried to screw an ally. I suggest you learn how to read properly and check your own facts before you tell me to get my facts right. 1. Like I said they never stole it since they weren't allowed to keep it. It was as if it never happened. 2. See 1. 3. They weren't an ally. Just some alliance promising them cheap ships if they protected them. Then they expected them to fight for them against one of RA's true allies. So if i steal your car get caught and your car is returned im not a thief?. Dude i think where ever you live must be very dangerous with no prisons as you seem to think getting caught makes ppl innocent. They were set to blue and were an ally the reason RA decided to screw them was because 1. RA failed to steal the titan 2. they would not become slaves and build exclusivly for RA 3. they were small and bullies always find reasons to screw the small guy. Got caught so are innocent lol just lol. HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve.
Sebea STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.02.27 20:58:00 - [66] Originally by: marakor So if i steal your car get caught and your car is returned im not a thief?. Dude i think where ever you live must be very dangerous with no prisons as you seem to think getting caught makes ppl innocent. They were set to blue and were an ally the reason RA decided to screw them was because 1. RA failed to steal the titan 2. they would not become slaves and build exclusivly for RA 3. they were small and bullies always find reasons to screw the small guy. Got caught so are innocent lol just lol. Are you even playing the same game as we are? The fact that they stole it (not arguing that they didnt) is NOT why it was returned.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.02.27 20:59:00 - [67] Edited by: marakor on 27/02/2008 21:00:37 Originally by: Sebea Originally by: marakor 1. They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back. you realize that stealing is a legal game mechanic in EVE and it has little to do with the titans return right? you can steal in this game and get away with it, the GM's will NOT give back what was stolen unless a game mechanic was violated in the process. The point was that they stole from and screwed an ally while bleating on here about how badly bob treated their pets. Exploit, legal, illegal, up, down, left or right does not matter. You should realy read the context before you try to disregard what i was originaly saying. HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve.
Sebea STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:01:00 - [68] Edited by: Sebea on 27/02/2008 21:02:26 Edited by: Sebea on 27/02/2008 21:01:08 Originally by: marakor Originally by: Sebea Originally by: marakor 1. They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back. you realize that stealing is a legal game mechanic in EVE and it has little to do with the titans return right? you can steal in this game and get away with it, the GM's will NOT give back what was stolen unless a game mechanic was violated in the process. The point was that they stole from and screwed an ally while bleating on here about how badly bob treated their pets. Exploit, legal, illegal, up, down, left or right does not matter. actualy, your original posts suggest it was returned *because* it was stolen, but im pretty sure you don't need me to tell you that, you wrote it. somehow you've now switched your argument to the morals of the issue, which definitely has nothing to do with why it was returned
Hymerus The Andromeda Directorate	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:02:00 - [69] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Originally by: Hymerus words about POS Your post is pretty far off the mark, the important POS mechanics haven't changed. BoB didn't get 9 regions because of anything related to game balance. It's just as easy to spam now as it was two years ago. There's a maximum number of POSes you can put into a system per day per group now. Came in with Rev. Before it was unlimited. That's a HUGE change.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:04:00 - [70] Edited by: marakor on 27/02/2008 21:07:38 Originally by: Sebea actualy, your original posts suggest it was returned *because* it was stolen, but im pretty sure you don't need me to tell you that, you wrote it. somehow you've now switched your argument to the morals of the issue, which definitely has nothing to do with why it was returned Originally by: marakor Most of the band wagoners who decided to join the coalition joined cos they were afraid of BOB kicking their ass and taking their space so they were willing to endure frozen screens and other crap for those very reasons. Now that BOB has been pushed back a lot of the coalition has realized that they are no longer under threat of losing their space and all they are doing is losing ships and watching a frozen screen so RAGOON can gain space and brag about it on CAOD. Lets face it RAGOON has already screwed over by stealing a titan and reset a lot of the drone area who helped take branch from BOB pets (i thought it was just BOB who screwed their allies). The good thing about this is that we may finaly see if goons can put their money where their very large and noisy mouths have been and manage to defeat BOB solo. Personaly i doubt it. Here is my OP please show me where i make the claim. HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve.
Tyn Tetro Vanquish Inc	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:04:00 - [71] Ofcourse it was stolen, i.e. taken against the wishes of the owner. The fact that it was returned to the owner is neither here or there. DMC just got lucky on that one.
Sebea STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:09:00 - [72] Originally by: marakor Here is my OP please show me where i make the claim. i like what you did there. I said "posts", you put your first post up. Its not in that one, but ill let you get by on this if it helps you sleep at night. just for future reference, the "s" makes it plural, meaning more than one.
Sebea STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:12:00 - [73] Edited by: Sebea on 27/02/2008 21:12:49 Originally by: marakor 1. They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back. I suggest you learn how to read properly and check your own facts before you tell me to get my facts right. here, i went back and found it for you, and included some relevant words posted by your illustrious self to help you along hullshot?
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:14:00 - [74] Originally by: Sebea Originally by: marakor Here is my OP please show me where i make the claim. i like what you did there. I said "posts", you put your first post up. Its not in that one, but ill let you get by on this if it helps you sleep at night. just for future reference, the "s" makes it plural, meaning more than one. So in other words you jumped in without actualy reading the history of the discussion, made a few erroneous claims about what you thought i was saying and now wish to bail. HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve.
Sebea STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:16:00 - [75] Edited by: Sebea on 27/02/2008 21:17:02 Originally by: marakor Originally by: Sebea Originally by: marakor Here is my OP please show me where i make the claim. i like what you did there. I said "posts", you put your first post up. Its not in that one, but ill let you get by on this if it helps you sleep at night. just for future reference, the "s" makes it plural, meaning more than one. So in other words you jumped in without actualy reading the history of the discussion, made a few erroneous claims about what you thought i was saying and now wish to bail. im betting you posted this before i went to find your post, wanna fix it now? edit: oh, and im not that person that just posts randomly about what one guy says. check the mirror, you may find that guy there, i always read the entire thread before i drop a word. Thanks, try again.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:17:00 - [76] Originally by: Sebea Originally by: marakor Originally by: Sebea Originally by: marakor Here is my OP please show me where i make the claim. i like what you did there. I said "posts", you put your first post up. Its not in that one, but ill let you get by on this if it helps you sleep at night. just for future reference, the "s" makes it plural, meaning more than one. So in other words you jumped in without actualy reading the history of the discussion, made a few erroneous claims about what you thought i was saying and now wish to bail. im betting you posted this before i went to find your post, wanna fix it now? Do you wanna post what i was replying to or does that kinda blow your accusation out of the water. HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve.
Ishamel 1 Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:19:00 - [77] Originally by: Sebea Edited by: Sebea on 27/02/2008 21:12:49 Originally by: marakor 1. They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back. I suggest you learn how to read properly and check your own facts before you tell me to get my facts right. here, i went back and found it for you, and included some relevant words posted by your illustrious self to help you along hullshot? As his post is almost the same as mine i would think he was making the same point. The fact the titan was given back doesn't alter the fact that RA stole it in the first place. The fact the theft was deemed unfair has nothing to do with it either way. The post he was answering said they didn't steal it, which they did. I really don't like the fact you are making me defend him btw.
Lunas Feelgood S.A.S	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:23:00 - [78] wow the amount of bob alt and bob fanboys in this thread is staggering. To OP: you not and alt all you do is looking at killboards?? Im very impressed you can get all that looking at killboards, wanna learn me how todo that? Signature Bob Highcommand: We planned it all BOB: Hey its unfair Goons killed all our pets and we are now outnumbe
Darth Maule modro CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:25:00 - [79] Ra has resorted to doing something they do well(taking out allies they no longer deem usefull).As they had AAA take out KoS as they started to push into the drone regions to take out more allies they deem not usefull any more.When they had AAA invade KoS I would hope that would be a wakeup call to the rest of the coalition as we wonder who will be next on the redswarm chopping block.There were instances of goons dropping large bubbles on the c3 station to help AAA eventhough they were blue to KoS.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.02.27 21:46:00 - [80] Edited by: marakor on 27/02/2008 21:50:51 Edited by: marakor on 27/02/2008 21:49:06 Originally by: Ishamel 1 Originally by: marakor 1. They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back. I suggest you learn how to read properly and check your own facts before you tell me to get my facts right. Originally by: Sebea here, i went back and found it for you, and included some relevant words posted by your illustrious self to help you along As his post is almost the same as mine i would think he was making the same point. The fact the titan was given back doesn't alter the fact that RA stole it in the first place. The fact the theft was deemed unfair has nothing to do with it either way. The post he was answering said they didn't steal it, which they did. I really don't like the fact you are making me defend him btw. Hardy supprising that she would want to quote me out of context as she is a member of STK and they were in MPIRE. So trust me buddy talking honestly and morals with a former member of MPIRE is like talking algebra with a frog, you can do it but your wasting your breath. HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve.
Kraven Kor Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.27 22:05:00 - [81] Originally by: Xonax Jyria ..or how many of them weight 23424234 pounds because of sitting in front of computer all day... Petitioned for hurting me e-feelings. ----- Must Be Nice to not care about your world at all.
Hey You Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.27 22:13:00 - [82] Originally by: Xonax Jyria [i] Afterall they sacrificed their real lifes to win in an internet game. I wonder how many of them divorced with their wifes or how many of them has girlfriend or how many of them weight 23424234 pounds because of sitting in front of computer all day. Yes. All of us. None of us. All of us. __________________________________ We Ride Together We Die Together We Few, We Happy Few...
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.27 23:26:00 - [83] Originally by: Lunas Feelgood wow the amount of bob alt and bob fanboys in this thread is staggering. To OP: you not and alt all you do is looking at killboards?? Im very impressed you can get all that looking at killboards, wanna learn me how todo that? So who are you? Goon alt or Goon fanboy?
Sebea STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.02.27 23:39:00 - [84] Edited by: Sebea on 27/02/2008 23:39:55 Edited by: Sebea on 27/02/2008 23:39:27 Originally by: marakor Hardly supprising that she would want to quote me out of context as she is a member of STK and they were in MPIRE. So trust me buddy talking honestly and morals with a former member of MPIRE is like talking algebra with a frog, you can do it but your wasting your breath. so let me get all this straight. you asked me to prove you said something, so i pulled a direct quote from you, saying that the titan was returned because it was stolen This stems from an a statement i made telling you that the fact it was stolen was NOT the reason it was returned, and that even if you find it morally wrong, its within the realm of game mechanics to steal in EVE. You tried to hide from this false statement you made, by near denying that you said it, though i found it for you in type, assuming you typed it, unless you share you account with some monumental moron. Now, that you've been told your dead wrong by more than one person, you choose to dish out a personal insult, based on a corporation im in, having to do with an alliance that is now defunct (though checking facts, something you obviously don't do, you'd know i wasn't there then). Good play, way to show that anything you'll ever spew from your ignorant mouth will ever hold water. Twit
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.02.27 23:51:00 - [85] Edited by: marakor on 27/02/2008 23:56:25 Originally by: Sebea Originally by: marakor Hardly supprising that she would want to quote me out of context as she is a member of STK and they were in MPIRE. So trust me buddy talking honestly and morals with a former member of MPIRE is like talking algebra with a frog, you can do it but your wasting your breath. so let me get all this straight. "more misleading crap" You deliberatly mis-quoted me and took my statment totaly out of context. That point was in regards to sombody saying that because the stolen item was returned that the theft did not count but you deliberatly ignored that and snipped just enough to misdirect and mislead my point. Go away and post you misleading crap elsewhere. ps; read post 77 moron i think you will find its you who are being told you are wrong and are deliberatly misinterpreting things not me. HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve.
Sebea STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:00:00 - [86] Edited by: Sebea on 28/02/2008 00:04:07 Edited by: Sebea on 28/02/2008 00:03:37 Edited by: Sebea on 28/02/2008 00:01:54 Edited by: Sebea on 28/02/2008 00:00:29 Edited by: Sebea on 28/02/2008 00:00:11 Originally by: marakor 1. *They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back.* 2. Getting caught stealing or after you have stolen and the property getting returned still makes you a thief. 3. I did not say it was a member of their alliance i said it was an ally. Why they were an ally is irrelavant RA still tried to screw an ally. (I dunno about you but i still remember the excuses bob made when they removed pets, they made claims about leaches in their space as well). I suggest you learn how to read properly and check your own facts before you tell me to get my facts right. so you didnt say this highlighted bit then? just in case your unaware, you can steal in eve! gasp that is the part i quoted, where you say i miss quoted you right? thats the second time ive had to show it to you. Face facts D-bag, your just wrong, get over it, come back another time and try harder
Ishamel 1 Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:05:00 - [87] Originally by: Sebea This stems from an a statement i made telling you that the fact it was stolen was NOT the reason it was returned, and that even if you find it morally wrong, its within the realm of game mechanics to steal in EVE. You see this where you are going wrong, he wasn't replying to you at all, he was clearly replying to the opp who said it wasn't stolen, it was given back. Unless that guy is your alt in which case u r an idiot.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:08:00 - [88] Edited by: marakor on 28/02/2008 00:11:39 Originally by: Sebea Originally by: marakor 1. *They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back.* 2. Getting caught stealing or after you have stolen and the property getting returned still makes you a thief. 3. I did not say it was a member of their alliance i said it was an ally. Why they were an ally is irrelavant RA still tried to screw an ally. (I dunno about you but i still remember the excuses bob made when they removed pets, they made claims about leaches in their space as well). I suggest you learn how to read properly and check your own facts before you tell me to get my facts right. so you didnt say this highlighted bit then? HERE IT IS IN CONTEXT- ---------------- Originally by: marakor Lets face it RAGOON has already screwed over by stealing a titan and reset a lot of the drone area who helped take branch from BOB pets (i thought it was just BOB who screwed their allies). Originally by: Spaja Saist RA did not steal a titan. The GMs gave it back. Originally by: marakor 1. They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back. Originally by: Spaja Saist 1. Like I said they never stole it since they weren't allowed to keep it. It was as if it never happened. Now unless your a total rtrd you can see what context that single line you cut out was in. If you choose to misinterpret what i actualy meant by saying your misleading crap then go ahead but it just shows you to be a manipulator or a moron. HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve.
Sebea STK Scientific	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:11:00 - [89] Originally by: Ishamel 1 Edited by: Ishamel 1 on 28/02/2008 00:07:41 Originally by: Sebea This stems from an a statement i made telling you that the fact it was stolen was NOT the reason it was returned, and that even if you find it morally wrong, its within the realm of game mechanics to steal in EVE. You see this where you are going wrong, he wasn't replying to you at all, he was clearly replying to the guy above him who said it wasn't stolen, it was given back. Unless that guy is your alt in which case u r an idiot. i couldnt let you defend me, i had to make myself wrong to liberate you from your shackles of defense. i read the thread, read what he said in that post, and wanted to point out the obvious fact that it wasnt returned because it was stolen, but because a game mechanic was violated. If he'd have just clarified that point in his statement none of this would be here. and no, i know its rare, but i've no "forum alts" to post with. tbh, thats chicken s**t
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Industrial Research	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:15:00 - [90] Originally by: marakor they would not become slaves and build exclusivly for RA They sort of went to RA and begged to be in the first place, in exchange for protection from Pure. Pure, incidentally, was a real ally (as DMC was originally aligned with the Northern Coalition) that had screwed over DMC for no real reason. DMC actually went to Tri first and offered to pay them for protection, but Tri said no. Quote: 3. they were small and bullies always find reasons to screw the small guy. DMC controlled a whole region, had 4 outposts, were one of the top 10 alliances in Eve by member count, and had the industrial infrastructure to build super capitals. That's not very small.

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