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Thorek Ironbrow Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.03.07 17:40:00 - [1] The Jihad swarm gave me inspiration. What'd happen, if all the pirates moved into high security, and just really ****** about with miners and industrialists. Would the carebears realise that they could die less if they went into low security where it's virtually empty because all the pirates are in high security stealing your basez0rs. _____________________________ "So what do you need, besides a miracle?" "Guns... Lots of guns"
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.03.07 17:43:00 - [2] Nobody pushes me in to low sex.
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2008.03.07 17:44:00 - [3] Yet another person that doesn't understand the Carebear mentality. Make things too hot in High Sec and they will just quit playing. Just like in real life if there is rioting in the streets the cashiers for hte grocery store don't go to work. Difference is in real life they HAVE to live, in a game they can just leave and go to the next one. Stop trying to worry about what other people are/aren't doing and play the stupid game. Originally by: Audri Fisher On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
Thorek Ironbrow Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.03.07 17:45:00 - [4] Damn that was a terrible typo. Still though, if you got killed a lot in high sec, would you think about moving to low sec, or would you just quit the game. OR would you persist, be killed quite a lot, and maybe get some revenge? _____________________________ "So what do you need, besides a miracle?" "Guns... Lots of guns"
hinch Gallente Furious Angels Research and Development	Posted - 2008.03.07 17:48:00 - [5] avoiding getting killed in high sec is so easy its not funny and even if you did get swarmed and suicide ganked in your hulk its not like the cost to fully fit and replace a hulk is much what 200mill tops ? if your a hardcore miner you can make that in less than an hour anyway. at the end of the day the current jihad serves no purpose besides putting more money in the hulk producers pockets so anyone owning a hulk bpo or anyone invention hulk bpc's are the ones profiting. Furious Angels Research and Development. Fully researched BPO's, BPC's and T2 invented BPC's to order. FA BPO and BPC Shop
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.03.07 17:48:00 - [6] Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow Damn that was a terrible typo. Still though, if you got killed a lot in high sec, would you think about moving to low sec, or would you just quit the game. OR would you persist, be killed quite a lot, and maybe get some revenge? I would just do my carebear thing in cheap ships that I don't care about losing. And be glad that I'm not a miner, of course
AndrewRyan	Posted - 2008.03.07 17:51:00 - [7] Originally by: hinch the cost to fully fit and replace a hulk is much what 200mill tops ? if your a hardcore miner you can make that in less than an hour anyway. Are you playing the same game as everyone else? or are you just generally misinformed and post rubbish just for the sake of it? ========================================= A Man chooses, a slave obeys.
Morrow Disca Macrocosm Advanced Industries	Posted - 2008.03.07 17:55:00 - [8] Your drop in sec status will hurt you alot more that losing a few haulers will hurt a carebear. Most Carebears will simply adapt to the attacks in the same way as they would if their corp was war dec'd. Stabbing haulers, not going afk, staying aligned in missions incase someone warps in, etc. There are no carebears in low sec because there is no way to be safe while you operate there. The difference between 0.5 and 0.4 is stark in terms of security but negligible in terms of ISK to be earned. The solution lies not in making empire less safe, but in making low sec more secure. Making all missions in low sec require a gate key (given to you by the agent) would be one start. You'd not be able to attack them in missions but it would still increase the amount of shipping in low sec and thus increase your chance of getting kills. Plus the more people run missions in low sec the more people will need supplies, more haulers moving stuff in, etc, etc. You can't be greedy and demand the right to kill anything anywhere, if you do you'll just end up with all of eve becoming like low sec. Then where will we be? Accepting a 'safe' aspect to low sec will ultimately work in the favour of pirates.
Pax Ratlin Gallente Valley Forge	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:02:00 - [9] Bleet bleet bleet no one in low sec bleet bleet bleet my life in eve is terrible bleet bleet bleet game is broken bleet bleet bleet. And yet i bet your the same person who when there's a thread complaining about being ganked at a gate into low sec you laugh like a drain and says it's their own fault for being there. Again another one who wants everything and more.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:03:00 - [10] Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow The Jihad swarm gave me inspiration. What'd happen, if all the pirates moved into high security, and just really ****** about with miners and industrialists. Would the carebears realise that they could die less if they went into low security where it's virtually empty because all the pirates are in high security stealing your basez0rs. No, they'd probably just quit. ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79

isAzmodeus The Seven	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:09:00 - [11] There is no point in trying to "force" anyone to change how they play any game. They will simply switch to another game that caters to what they want/need out of a game experience. If you want them to switch, you need to examine your reasons. If someone else playing the same game as you in a different manner upsets and irratates you that much, you shouldn't be playing sandbox type games. Who do these people impact your life at all? If someone plays an hour a day running a mission or mining in high-sec, what impact does that have on you? Making someone move to a lower security system won't make them into PVPers, just targets.There is no reason for you to want them in low-sec except as easy targets. They have valid reasons for the way they play the game. Let them enjoy their style of play, and you enjoy yours. --------------------------------- The Seven- Blowing up someone near you.
Pax Ratlin Gallente Valley Forge	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:17:00 - [12] Originally by: isAzmodeus There is no point in trying to "force" anyone to change how they play any game. No point trying to explain this to them, they don't care, no that's wrong they do care that's why there doing this .... this being making a concerted effort to run 60% of the player base out of the game so when they go suicide ganking in jita they don't suffer from lag
Lorna Loot Caldari Nox Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:20:00 - [13] Originally by: Wet Ferret Nobody pushes me in to low sex. You sure? I hear its good for the back --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:21:00 - [14] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow The Jihad swarm gave me inspiration. What'd happen, if all the pirates moved into high security, and just really **** about with miners and industrialists. Would the carebears realise that they could die less if they went into low security where it's virtually empty because all the pirates are in high security stealing your basez0rs. No, they'd probably just quit. Not only would they quit, they would not be able making the ships you fly anymore either.. Originally by:** CCP Whisper I got your ambulation right here... <walks off to get more wine>
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:21:00 - [15] Originally by: Wet Ferret Nobody pushes me in to low sex. That's because they never have to.
Thorek Ironbrow Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:25:00 - [16] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow The Jihad swarm gave me inspiration. What'd happen, if all the pirates moved into high security, and just really ****** about with miners and industrialists. Would the carebears realise that they could die less if they went into low security where it's virtually empty because all the pirates are in high security stealing your basez0rs. No, they'd probably just quit. Not only would they quit, they would not be able making the ships you fly anymore either.. So if this did happen (which I'm pretty sure it won't) it could potentially put EVE back into the stone age? _____________________________ "So what do you need, besides a miracle?" "Guns... Lots of guns"
Ragnar Darkstar	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:27:00 - [17] How about we not push anyone anywhere?
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:31:00 - [18] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 07/03/2008 18:31:58 Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow So if this did happen (which I'm pretty sure it won't) it could potentially put EVE back into the stone age? Not if just you did it, or your corp did it. But if everyone and their mother in deep space and low sec did it.. Well.. I think we would have a problem. We do know theres quite a few who buys their ships in empire and brings it down to deep space and their home there. We also know that some alliances produces their own ships in empire, leaving only capital production in deep space. I think its called a symbiosis. We are all in one way or other dependent on each other . whether we like it or not Originally by: CCP Whisper I got your ambulation right here... <walks off to get more wine>
Traka Vinderta	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:34:00 - [19] To the OP , here is the crunch EvE is a pay to play now the carebares pay their subs the same as you do so they play as they want you pay your subs so you play as you want. You PAY MY SUBS and I will go where you tell me. Seeing as I pay using real cash not GTS baught with isk that is how you pay my subs so I do as you want sounds plenty good to me, But if you are not going to pay my subs stop trying to push me around and leave me to play this game as I want. Oh before you ask no you can not have my stuff im not planning on leaving.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:34:00 - [20] Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow So if this did happen (which I'm pretty sure it won't) it could potentially put EVE back into the stone age? Not likely, but the cost of ships will increase significantly, meaning more mission running/0.0 mining/ratting for the PvPers left. Ironic, eh? ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79

Thorek Ironbrow Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:38:00 - [21] Yeh lol _____________________________ "So what do you need, besides a miracle?" "Guns... Lots of guns"
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow So if this did happen (which I'm pretty sure it won't) it could potentially put EVE back into the stone age? Not likely, but the cost of ships will increase significantly, meaning more mission running/0.0 mining/ratting for the PvPers left. Ironic, eh? Well, to be honest, the human race have always been selfdestructive by nature. I guess thats why we all love this game very much. Originally by: CCP Whisper I got your ambulation right here... <walks off to get more wine>
Stern Maxwell Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Ragnar Darkstar How about we not push anyone anywhere? QFE ___________________________________________
Cygnus Scott Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Morrow Disca Your drop in sec status will hurt you alot more that losing a few haulers will hurt a carebear. Most Carebears will simply adapt to the attacks in the same way as they would if their corp was war dec'd. Stabbing haulers, not going afk, staying aligned in missions incase someone warps in, etc. There are no carebears in low sec because there is no way to be safe while you operate there. The difference between 0.5 and 0.4 is stark in terms of security but negligible in terms of ISK to be earned. The solution lies not in making empire less safe, but in making low sec more secure. Making all missions in low sec require a gate key (given to you by the agent) would be one start. You'd not be able to attack them in missions but it would still increase the amount of shipping in low sec and thus increase your chance of getting kills. Plus the more people run missions in low sec the more people will need supplies, more haulers moving stuff in, etc, etc. You can't be greedy and demand the right to kill anything anywhere, if you do you'll just end up with all of eve becoming like low sec. Then where will we be? Accepting a 'safe' aspect to low sec will ultimately work in the favour of pirates. Not a bad idea. The biggest problem with low sec is the fact that its just not profitable, the risk vs. reward is grossly out of balance. That is something the pirates neglect to see. In fact I'd go so far as to call them the "carebears" since there is little actual risk to piracy. PVE fit ships pose little real threat to a PVP fit pirate gang, not to mention that you can fly a cheap ship and just let the NPCs do most of your work for you. Sentry Guns? Its already been shown you can mitigate the consequence/risk of sentry guns if you aren't a idiot from low sec gate camps. You can almost always choose your fight so that the odds are heavily in your favor. Calling for easy low to no-risk targets is what you are doing, isn't this what you're accusing the carebears of having in high sec? Easy money with no risk...hypocrites. Find a way to even out the risk vs. reward in low sec and you'll see more mission runners in low sec. Miners you won't see because of the mechanics of mining, you have to remain in one spot too long to make ISK doing it. That and hiring guards or the loss of a ship cuts the profits of the better ores to be pretty much the same as what you can make in high sec with a hauler partner/alt. That is why High Sec or Alliance patrolled 0.0 is best for mining and low sec sucks for it.
Alora Venoda Caldari GalTech Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:52:00 - [25] Originally by: hinch the cost to fully fit and replace a hulk is much what 200mill tops ? if your a hardcore miner you can make that in less than an hour anyway. ROFL ... i would love to make 200mill in less than an hour! what kind of ore would i need to mine? ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
Madelchai Gallente Stimulus The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.03.07 18:58:00 - [26] Low sex? Is that what that shameful time in every man's life where he takes a trek up Heavy Hill is called? ------ Revolution. The only solution.
Orgos Khenn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.07 19:00:00 - [27] I know. What'd happen if all of the people the pirates prey on stop making themselves targets for pirates? Would the pirates then get over themselves and realise it's just a game, and that people play it however they want to? Or would they continue to be yarrtards? ---- One day...one day General will be worth reading.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.07 19:02:00 - [28] Originally by: hinch its not like the cost to fully fit and replace a hulk is much what 200mill tops ? if your a hardcore miner you can make that in less than an hour anyway. You must mine in really wonderful locations.
Cygnus Scott Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.07 19:08:00 - [29] Originally by: hinch ...its not like the cost to fully fit and replace a hulk is much what 200mill tops ? if your a hardcore miner you can make that in less than an hour anyway. Its been a long week and the weekend is finally here, can I have some of what you're smoking?
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.03.07 19:40:00 - [30] Originally by: Billy Sastard Topic of post: Quote: ...push carebears into sex... Isn't this considered rape?! Hey, if the carebears don't actually su no, it isn't. And how can you say no if you're not conscious? ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79

Cygnus Scott Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.07 19:43:00 - [31] Quote: My solution to push carebears into low sex and null sec So what you're saying is that null sec players get low to no sex? Now we know the real reason people stay in High sec.
chillz Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.07 19:53:00 - [32] It would be great. Once the mineral supply has dried up, those so called carebears will be able to get all your iskes by charging you billions for your ammo. They don't use ammo, they make it. Or once it's all run out are you going to start getting your own raw materials? and risk being popped by your own kind? ----------------------------------- A gun and a packet of sandwiches. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
Gort Storm Guard Elite	Posted - 2008.03.07 20:11:00 - [33] Not another one of these threads!?! Why says anyone needs to be pushed anywhere? What's the damn problem, anyhow? Bored and need to post something? G -- When in doubt, empty the magazine.
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2008.03.07 20:25:00 - [34] Pray tell how I get a mining barge into lowsec or 0.0 when half the time I can't get a combat ship though? -------------------- What? Me Worry? --------------------
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.03.07 20:37:00 - [35] Originally by: Bistot Kid Pray tell how I get a mining barge into lowsec or 0.0 when half the time I can't get a combat ship though? If you need one, I have a Cargohold Optimization I rigged Mammoth for sale. I have the opposite problem - I can't get it out! (It is for sale, cheap!)
Enden Assulu Caldari Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.03.07 21:01:00 - [36] Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow The Jihad swarm gave me inspiration. What'd happen, if all the pirates moved into high security, and just really ****** about with miners and industrialists. Would the carebears realise that they could die less if they went into low security where it's virtually empty because all the pirates are in high security stealing your basez0rs. TBH This would fail because your corp is a industrial corp. * * * M3h Skillz
Myros Glimmbrand Ganja Co	Posted - 2008.03.07 21:02:00 - [37] Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Stop trying to worry about what other people are/aren't doing and play the stupid game. Wisdom that.
Val Vympel Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.03.07 21:32:00 - [38] Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Yet another person that doesn't understand the Carebear mentality. Make things too hot in High Sec and they will just quit playing. Just like in real life if there is rioting in the streets the cashiers for hte grocery store don't go to work. Difference is in real life they HAVE to live, in a game they can just leave and go to the next one. Stop trying to worry about what other people are/aren't doing and play the stupid game. They understand the carebear mentality just fine. They are not ignorant,their just frustrated. High-Sec represents a gigantic piggy bank filled to capacity with ISK and all sorts of mouth watering goodies,that many of them can no longer freely access. Hammer in hand,they pace impatiently along the wall and at the gates salivating and yearning for the moment they can swing that hammer. Only to come to the realization that their life of crime wasn't all that is was *****ed up to be. The terrible truth then begins to dawn on them..that while a piggy bank does indeed have legs...a piggy bank doesn't walk. Cheers
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.03.07 21:41:00 - [39] How much Sex are we talking about here? Just little, like you hold mine, and I hold yours... or are we talking about merry go round a world, twice? Also, will I have to pay for it? Cause if its free sex, I am all for it.
SheriffFruitfly Caldari FlyinPenguin Enterprises	Posted - 2008.03.07 21:42:00 - [40] I think it's hilarious how ppl can't abide by other ppl who play the game differently than they do.

Letouk Mernel	Posted - 2008.03.07 21:46:00 - [41] I'd quit and give a low opinion of the game whenever I'd get the chance to whomever would listen.
FarScape III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2008.03.07 22:29:00 - [42] I would still play but I like the RP aspects and story line and there is only player made RP in 0.0 and IMO they a borring. CCP has great writers, 0.0 players are not and their POS's are borring too, sorry :) ***
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2008.03.07 22:32:00 - [43] Originally by: Val Vympel Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Yet another person that doesn't understand the Carebear mentality. Make things too hot in High Sec and they will just quit playing. Just like in real life if there is rioting in the streets the cashiers for hte grocery store don't go to work. Difference is in real life they HAVE to live, in a game they can just leave and go to the next one. Stop trying to worry about what other people are/aren't doing and play the stupid game. They understand the carebear mentality just fine. They are not ignorant,their just frustrated. High-Sec represents a gigantic piggy bank filled to capacity with ISK and all sorts of mouth watering goodies,that many of them can no longer freely access. Hammer in hand,they pace impatiently along the wall and at the gates salivating and yearning for the moment they can swing that hammer. Only to come to the realization that their life of crime wasn't all that is was *****ed up to be. The terrible truth then begins to dawn on them..that while a piggy bank does indeed have legs...a piggy bank doesn't walk. Cheers So you are saying 0.0 would be better if the miners came out their to give you free ships? Or you are saying 0.0 is borring? Well why would it get any better if some one like a carebear came to play with you?
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2008.03.07 22:35:00 - [44] Originally by: Magnum III Originally by: Val Vympel They understand the carebear mentality just fine. They are not ignorant,their just frustrated. High-Sec represents a gigantic piggy bank filled to capacity with ISK and all sorts of mouth watering goodies,that many of them can no longer freely access. Hammer in hand,they pace impatiently along the wall and at the gates salivating and yearning for the moment they can swing that hammer. Only to come to the realization that their life of crime wasn't all that is was ***ed up to be. The terrible truth then begins to dawn on them..that while a piggy bank does indeed have legs...a piggy bank doesn't walk. Cheers So you are saying 0.0 would be better if the miners came out their to give you free ships? Or you are saying 0.0 is borring? Well why would it get any better if some one like a carebear came to play with you? No, I think she meant the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. But instead of going there its better to * about those that are already there. Originally by:** Audri Fisher On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
Kushan	Posted - 2008.03.07 22:51:00 - [45] You can push me into sex anytime.
EglantinFinfleur	Posted - 2008.03.07 23:11:00 - [46] Those goddamn sociopathic carebears, refusing to have fun with me! it's a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER game, what's wrong with them? they should just play a single-player asset controlling game, if they just wanna feel rich! They clearly have a problem with their fellow gamer.
Yllse Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.03.07 23:19:00 - [47] Originally by: Traka Vinderta You PAY MY SUBS and I will go where you tell me. Seeing as I pay using real cash not GTS baught with isk that is how you pay my subs so I do as you want sounds plenty good to me, Hmmm... $15/month? Nah, if I'm going to do what someone else wants me to do, they have to provide me with the best computer for the job, high-speed internet, paid holidays and leave, full medical insurance for my family and at least $30/hour, $45 for overtime.
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2008.03.07 23:23:00 - [48] Originally by: hinch avoiding getting killed in high sec is so easy its not funny and even if you did get swarmed and suicide ganked in your hulk its not like the cost to fully fit and replace a hulk is much what 200mill tops ? if your a hardcore miner you can make that in less than an hour anyway. Proof of this 200m/hour, or STFU. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2008.03.08 00:18:00 - [49] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Bistot Kid Pray tell how I get a mining barge into lowsec or 0.0 when half the time I can't get a combat ship though? If you need one, I have a Cargohold Optimization I rigged Mammoth for sale. I have the opposite problem - I can't get it out! (It is for sale, cheap!) Heh, I can see a small problem here ... where exactly do we meet up? -------------------- What? Me Worry? --------------------
Pax Ratlin Gallente Valley Forge	Posted - 2008.03.08 00:20:00 - [50] Originally by: EglantinFinfleur Those goddamn sociopathic carebears, refusing to have fun with me! it's a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER game, what's wrong with them? they should just play a single-player asset controlling game, if they just wanna feel rich! They clearly have a problem with their fellow gamer. Couldn't decide if this was an attempt at a humerous statement or serious one, i shall therefore chose the 3rd option and ignore it ... oh wait i havn't .... damn epic fail

RC Denton	Posted - 2008.03.08 00:30:00 - [51] Originally by: Val Vympel Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Yet another person that doesn't understand the Carebear mentality. Make things too hot in High Sec and they will just quit playing. Just like in real life if there is rioting in the streets the cashiers for hte grocery store don't go to work. Difference is in real life they HAVE to live, in a game they can just leave and go to the next one. Stop trying to worry about what other people are/aren't doing and play the stupid game. They understand the carebear mentality just fine. They are not ignorant,their just frustrated. High-Sec represents a gigantic piggy bank filled to capacity with ISK and all sorts of mouth watering goodies,that many of them can no longer freely access. Hammer in hand,they pace impatiently along the wall and at the gates salivating and yearning for the moment they can swing that hammer. Only to come to the realization that their life of crime wasn't all that is was *****ed up to be. The terrible truth then begins to dawn on them..that while a piggy bank does indeed have legs...a piggy bank doesn't walk. Cheers Indeed. For they are not carebears they are crybears. They have done bad things and now they must deal with the consequences of their actions, no more entry to high sec space. So they cry 'wwwwaaaaaaahhhh mommy make the nice people come play with me so I can smash their sand castles some more'.
Ulstan	Posted - 2008.03.08 00:33:00 - [52] Quote: My solution to push carebears into low sex Are you trying to unleash the inner kinky carebear?
Jason Travers Space 1999	Posted - 2008.03.08 01:37:00 - [53] Well I will make a prediction. One day some company will make an MMO like eve with the good graphics and have a similar game play style but actually enforces their rules and doesnÆt allow the manipulation of game mechanics, and has more than one server when a GM on one server has to play on the other. Thus eliminating the need for a GM to be in a corp and give favorites. If this was to happen you wouldnÆt have to worry about pushing the carebears out of the over crowded highsec because they would all be there leaving you holding your blaster in your hand LOL. Mommy that mean ole bear just dukied in my sandbox. :(
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Industrial Research	Posted - 2008.03.08 01:52:00 - [54] Originally by: Jason Travers Well I will make a prediction. One day some company will make an MMO like eve with the good graphics and have a similar game play style but actually enforces their rules and doesnÆt allow the manipulation of game mechanics, If you're implying that "suicide ganking" is against the rules and a manipulation of game mechanics, it isn't.
Jason Travers Space 1999	Posted - 2008.03.08 02:00:00 - [55] Na just the way some of them go about it. I know that highsec isnt suppose to be totally safe, but it also isnt ment to be the solvern territory of any one corp. or that one particuallr type of player/person to be hunted down and concord led around like puppydogs. Mommy that mean ole bear just dukied in my sandbox. :(
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Industrial Research	Posted - 2008.03.08 02:03:00 - [56] Originally by: Jason Travers Na just the way some of them go about it. What way would that be?
Corstaad	Posted - 2008.03.08 02:03:00 - [57] No way I take the hit on my boar/hr rate, I'd just quit. I can just take my Raven and leave for other games. Who's going to be buying Ravens after I'm gone?
Robinete Broadhead Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.08 02:16:00 - [58] Been here for 4 years, I CAN OUT WAIT YOU. Besides it is spring time in the desert and I can train skills and go fishing on the weekends. I am not going to LOW sec to be your target so you play with your epeen. Yes, I am an ALT in a NOOB Corp.
Pantaloon McPants	Posted - 2008.03.08 02:20:00 - [59] OMFG another poofter thread about pirates wanting more targets, dudes, the only thing you'll be pushing into low sec is my foot up your god dam ass! the day you pay my sub for me is the day you can tell me what i can and cant do in this game.
Nova Fox Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.08 02:27:00 - [60] carrots are more movtivating than bats sometimes. How to make feel low sec feel like low sec

SheriffFruitfly Caldari FlyinPenguin Enterprises	Posted - 2008.03.08 21:34:00 - [61] Edited by: SheriffFruitfly on 08/03/2008 21:42:22 Edited by: SheriffFruitfly on 08/03/2008 21:41:10 Originally by: Nova Fox carrots are more movtivating than bats sometimes. It's just not the way the 12yo ganker whiners think, tho. EDIT: Note also that if there were a carrot, it could only be some sort of safety-increasing carrot - which defeats the goals of the 12yo ganker whiners. They want easy pickins with no way for ppl to avoid it. CCP could increase the rewards of 00 by 100-fold, and it wouldn't matter to me - if I can't get there without dying, it may as well not exist for me.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.08 22:01:00 - [62] Originally by: chillz It would be great. Once the mineral supply has dried up, those so called carebears will be able to get all your iskes by charging you billions for your ammo. They don't use ammo, they make it. Or once it's all run out are you going to start getting your own raw materials? and risk being popped by your own kind? It is the Amarr boost patch . T1 crystals forever.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.08 22:04:00 - [63] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: chillz It would be great. Once the mineral supply has dried up, those so called carebears will be able to get all your iskes by charging you billions for your ammo. They don't use ammo, they make it. Or once it's all run out are you going to start getting your own raw materials? and risk being popped by your own kind? It is the Amarr boost patch . T1 crystals forever. He's gonna be a sad panda when he finds out I can get enough minerals to make hundreds of thousands of missiles from a day or two of ratting. It's not like you have to have uberindustrialist skills to run a cruise missile BPO CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.08 22:18:00 - [64] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: chillz It would be great. Once the mineral supply has dried up, those so called carebears will be able to get all your iskes by charging you billions for your ammo. They don't use ammo, they make it. Or once it's all run out are you going to start getting your own raw materials? and risk being popped by your own kind? It is the Amarr boost patch . T1 crystals forever. He's gonna be a sad panda when he finds out I can get enough minerals to make hundreds of thousands of missiles from a day or two of ratting. It's not like you have to have uberindustrialist skills to run a cruise missile BPO You (and most people with a smudge of common sense and experience) can do it, but there is a good chance that people that feel the need to start this kind of thread can't. Building stuff isn't cool so the don't want to train such uncool skills.
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2008.03.08 22:46:00 - [65] Hmmmmm!!! Low SEX!!! I like the sound of that!!! _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.08 22:48:00 - [66] Edited by: Malcanis on 08/03/2008 22:48:12 Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: chillz It would be great. Once the mineral supply has dried up, those so called carebears will be able to get all your iskes by charging you billions for your ammo. They don't use ammo, they make it. Or once it's all run out are you going to start getting your own raw materials? and risk being popped by your own kind? It is the Amarr boost patch . T1 crystals forever. He's gonna be a sad panda when he finds out I can get enough minerals to make hundreds of thousands of missiles from a day or two of ratting. It's not like you have to have uberindustrialist skills to run a cruise missile BPO You (and most people with a smudge of common sense and experience) can do it, but there is a good chance that people that feel the need to start this kind of thread can't. Building stuff isn't cool so the don't want to train such uncool skills. Cool I can sell them ammo at a 100% markup then. I think it takes about 30 minutes to train the skills to make ammo. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.08 23:04:00 - [67] Originally by: Malcanis Cool I can sell them ammo at a 100% markup then. I think it takes about 30 minutes to train the skills to make ammo. I am sure that using common sense in EVE is classed as an exploit.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam	Posted - 2008.03.08 23:05:00 - [68] Originally by: Wet Ferret Nobody pushes me in to low sex. That's not what you said the other night ...
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.08 23:17:00 - [69] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Malcanis Cool I can sell them ammo at a 100% markup then. I think it takes about 30 minutes to train the skills to make ammo. I am sure that using common sense in EVE is classed as an exploit. uh oh! CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Orgos Khenn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.09 01:47:00 - [70] As a side note: I'd prefer high sex. ---- One day...one day General will be worth reading.

Mighty Dread Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.09 03:18:00 - [71] Originally by: Orgos Khenn As a side note: I'd prefer high sex. Sure beats null sex.
Erol Dex	Posted - 2008.03.09 04:08:00 - [72] As a carebear myself, I'd quit before being 'forced' into low-sec. In a heartbeat. CCP needs to think more along the lines of honey, instead of vinegar. Make low-sec more tempting, and more people will go there. How they go about doing that, is up to them. But as long as they're charging us $14.95 a month to play - I will play the way I want. There are too many other good gaming alternatives out there if this game becomes something I don't enjoy. Just my opinion.
MR DEMOS	Posted - 2008.03.09 04:48:00 - [73] Edited by: MR DEMOS on 09/03/2008 04:54:55 i know one of the few reason's i mine in High sec is mostly a break from Mission's as well as good source of ISK for getting my GTC's for my other account's...I goto 0.0 sometimes but not alway's....Gett's boring out thier Ratt Mine PVP....Not to mention Market's are somewhat limited....As far as New toy's So i guess Point in Closing CCP if you Don't Close the Loop hole Well you'll loose My Money for 2 other accounts till it is closed. Rules of Biz...For every 1 Person who say's Something there 10 other's who Don't You do the Math
Furious Hawk Caldari I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2008.03.09 04:55:00 - [74] I laughed for a good three or four minutes at this typo and the first two posts.
Scoundrelus Dark Tornado Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2008.03.09 05:58:00 - [75] Originally by: hinch its not like the cost to fully fit and replace a hulk is much what 200mill tops ? if your a hardcore miner you can make that in less than an hour anyway. You don't know the first thing about mining. Respect. ================================================== Hi Mods. Can you please write something in my sig? I wanna be cool too.
Furious Hawk Caldari I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2008.03.09 18:48:00 - [76] Originally by: Scoundrelus Originally by: hinch its not like the cost to fully fit and replace a hulk is much what 200mill tops ? if your a hardcore miner you can make that in less than an hour anyway. You don't know the first thing about mining. Respect. This thread gets funnier by the second!
keuel Gallente Heretic Army DeStInY.	Posted - 2008.03.09 19:55:00 - [77] tell me what happens if: The carebear population of EVE disappears with the whole industries skills, what the PVPers will do if there¦s no carebear to produce your favorite ships/ammo/modules? Will scream to carebears back? since them can¦t build ships to pvp and will start do so in noobships :D
Terail Zoqial	Posted - 2008.03.09 20:01:00 - [78] If you're bored of lack of targets, why not just pod yourself repeatedly and when you get bored, quit your whining?.
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2008.03.09 21:02:00 - [79] Edited by: Soporo on 09/03/2008 21:02:14 To the Op: Naw, I'd rather push Low-Sec'ers into 0.0 where they would have to man-up.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.03.09 21:15:00 - [80] What a superbly useful and original thread. If I didn't know better I'd say the OP was simply making a banal attempt to generate an argument on the forums. EVE RELATED CONTENT



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