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Agil TradeAlt
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Agil TradeAlt on 08/03/2008 23:27:04
Click patchc notes
The Apocalypse gains +5tf and +1000mw, the capacitor capacity bonus has been replaced by a 7.5% bonus to large energy turret tracking per Amarr Battleship Skill lvl.
Apoc now gets tracking insted of optimal bonus. Its now back to square 1 of being worst bs  .
 Originally by: CCP kieron
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co.
Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:28:00 -
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pwned
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Skyr
Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:32:00 -
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yeah, nice one CCP.
THis whole patch is pure crap, boost, what boost? All bug fixes and couple DB entries changed... pffff.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:33:00 -
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Apocaloomph!
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:36:00 -
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Have we had a threadnaught about this yet?
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 08/03/2008 23:39:03
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=537
Erm?
Originally by: "Patch Notes"
The Apocalypse gains +5tf and +1000mw, the capacitor capacity bonus has been replaced by a 7.5% bonus to large energy turret tracking per Amarr Battleship Skill lvl.
They are at odds. Sigh.
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Skyr
Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:39:00 -
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test server still lists optimal bonus, I think patch notes might have a typo.
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:42:00 -
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Wow.
Some long-deserved improvements for Amarr.
Very nice.
Good work CCP.
Hey OP read Liang's link.
Yeah I think Amarr in general needs a little buffage. Especially since I'm training it now :-)
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BlackHorizon
Caldari
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:48:00 -
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Edited by: BlackHorizon on 08/03/2008 23:48:12
Good. The optimal bonus was overpowered, especially with pulses.
I was able to obtain an optimal range of 220km with Mega Pulse II on Sisi. It instapwnd anything bigger than an interceptor, and most interceptors died too.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Home 0f Bored Occultists
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Skyr
yeah, nice one CCP.
THis whole patch is pure crap, boost, what boost? All bug fixes and couple DB entries changed... pffff.
QFT.
They dont fix pilgrim and now they are ******* up apoc aswell. Why the hell do they listen to the gallente whine squad and revoke the planned deimos change but dont even mention the apoc turning into crapoc again anywhere? gg ccp I friggin hope thats a typo.
Overpowered my azz, if that has any importance you can start removing the 5th turret on eagle because THATS overpowered.
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Merdaneth
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:01:00 -
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Actually, I'm not seeing the cap increase as well. As it looks now, it loses its cap advantage for extra tracking and some fitting boosts.
Thanks for nothing.
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Orgos Khenn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:08:00 -
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Problem: Amarr ships suck. Solution: Fly something else.
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Skyr
test server still lists optimal bonus, I think patch notes might have a typo.
"As always, note that these changes are subject to change based on further testing."
It might not.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:17:00 -
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Tracking boost is much more deadly when you think about it. Mega Pulse II w/ Scorch with 37.5% naturally better tracking...? 
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 09/03/2008 00:18:58
Wait what? The optimal bonus is gone? Bugger.. 
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Tracking boost is much more deadly when you think about it. Mega Pulse II w/ Scorch with 37.5% naturally better tracking...?
Yeah but 350 dps at sniping range was gonna rock.
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Agil TradeAlt
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Tracking boost is much more deadly when you think about it. Mega Pulse II w/ Scorch with 37.5% naturally better tracking...?
Has worse tracking than any large gun even with boost. In fact, loosing the cap bonus makes the apoc useless now. Even worse than the old apoc.
Originally by: CCP kieron
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:30:00 -
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just when i thought the apoc was going to get a roll.
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mothermoon2
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Agil TradeAlt
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Tracking boost is much more deadly when you think about it. Mega Pulse II w/ Scorch with 37.5% naturally better tracking...?
Has worse tracking than any large gun even with boost. In fact, loosing the cap bonus makes the apoc useless now. Even worse than the old apoc.
why don't people read before posting, I mean really, don't comment on anything if you don't know what the hell your talking about!
they aren't ******* over the apoc by giving it a tracking bonus, the only way they could **** it over would be to giuve it a bad bonus that hurts you.
The old cap bonus is now built into the apoc, the apoc has 25% more cap base than before, meaning it's not losing it's cap bonus. it is in fact going to have 3 bonus, and yet you whine.
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Agil TradeAlt
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: mothermoon2
Originally by: Agil TradeAlt
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Tracking boost is much more deadly when you think about it. Mega Pulse II w/ Scorch with 37.5% naturally better tracking...?
Has worse tracking than any large gun even with boost. In fact, loosing the cap bonus makes the apoc useless now. Even worse than the old apoc.
why don't people read before posting, I mean really, don't comment on anything if you don't know what the hell your talking about!
they aren't ******* over the apoc by giving it a tracking bonus, the only way they could **** it over would be to giuve it a bad bonus that hurts you.
The old cap bonus is now built into the apoc, the apoc has 25% more cap base than before, meaning it's not losing it's cap bonus. it is in fact going to have 3 bonus, and yet you whine.
Nope. The cap bonus is being removed. Otherwise it owuld be a genuine bonus. Read patch bonus. It will have 25% less base cap as base cap is remaining unchanged, unlike the Sisi version.
Originally by: CCP kieron
ISK buying is a major contributor to the inflation in EVE's economy.
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gfldex
Kabelkopp
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:50:00 -
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I would like to point out that a patch note is just a piece of text. Would not be the first time to have a mistake in there. Not a reason to not lynch the person that wrote it tho.
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Scoundrelus
Dark Tornado
Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Agil TradeAlt
Edited by: Agil TradeAlt on 08/03/2008 23:27:04
Click patchc notes
The Apocalypse gains +5tf and +1000mw, the capacitor capacity bonus has been replaced by a 7.5% bonus to large energy turret tracking per Amarr Battleship Skill lvl.
Apoc now gets tracking insted of optimal bonus. Its now back to square 1 of being worst bs .
Been flying Amarr for three years and I think this is an awesome boost.
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Xofii
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Posted - 2008.03.09 01:08:00 -
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Changes are so full of fail its terrible ;(
WHy OH why???? seriously these changes make the apoc worse tha before.
Im trying to swallow my gall but I have lost all confidence in ccp's baśncing team, perhaps the new sniping apoc was a bit too imba, but then go one of the other 9000+ ideas thats been discussed, torp.apoc, drone-apoc, neut-apoc not this abhorrence...
//Xofii
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.03.09 01:16:00 -
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Oh wow,ccp if this is true you guys ****** up.
The apoc was used as a sniper due to its ability to fit tachs and use them,giving it an optimal adds to its sniping ability and I applaud this boost....However when you swap it with tracking?This means it cant use tachs as good as before or outperform the geddon with megabeam so its not null and void as a sniper.
Ccp,please keep the optimal bonus,it isnt overpowered....If it was wouldnt that mean the rokh would be even more overpowered?No,because it isnt.
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Jvxta
Federation Fleet
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.03.09 01:34:00 -
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I'm not really sure wether the apoc boost was close to overpowered or not earlier, but this new "boost", its worse off than before :(
How can you make the worst BS even MORE FAIL.
If this isnt a misstake in the patchnotes its so abhorrent ive lost all fate in ccp balancing.
Shape up dudes... disappointment
//Jv
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mothermoon2
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Posted - 2008.03.09 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jvxta
I'm not really sure wether the apoc boost was close to overpowered or not earlier, but this new "boost", its worse off than before :(
How can you make the worst BS even MORE FAIL.
If this isnt a misstake in the patchnotes its so abhorrent ive lost all fate in ccp balancing.
Shape up dudes... disappointment
//Jv
what are you talking about it got it's cap increased by 25!
ignorance
misinformation either one must be at work, the apoc has 3 bonus now, it's a sweet ship.
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Jvxta
Federation Fleet
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.03.09 01:39:00 -
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Not according to patchnotes?
//Jv
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Jvxta
Federation Fleet
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.03.09 01:41:00 -
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new boost:
# The Apocalypse gains +5tf and +1000mw, the capacitor capacity bonus has been replaced by a 7.5% bonus to large energy turret tracking per Amarr Battleship Skill lvl.
old boost:
* Fitting: 505tf, 20500mw (+5tf, +1000mw)
* Capacitor capacity: 7500en (+25%)
* Bonuses:
o 10% reduction in large energy turret capacitor usage per Amarr Battleship level (no change)
o 7.5% bonus to large energy turret optimal range per Amarr Battleship level (replaces the 5% capacitor capacity bonus)
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mothermoon2
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Posted - 2008.03.09 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jvxta
Not according to patchnotes?
//Jv
well I just asuming it's poorly written as a sisi *****.
I mean even if they changed the range bonus they would take out the cap increase... would they?
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Jvxta
Federation Fleet
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.03.09 01:49:00 -
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I'm just emo-raging hoping this is a misstake. But since we are even entertaining the idea that theyd remove the inherrent cap bonus + optimal for a trcking bonus makes me scared. Still not sure the tracking bonus will ever make much of a diff tbh. Unless they make it hit 3-5kms cruisers with mwd its pointless.
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dj lightning
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.09 02:01:00 -
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Well done CCPENNIS now we have 3 close range BS with cap issues thx alot.
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