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The Hooch Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.10 18:52:00 - [31] Originally by: xttz Originally by: maralt Edited by: maralt on 10/03/2008 16:35:00 The truth is that we had to suffer through reading all the GOON proclamations about how great they are at 0.0 warfare and how stunningly brilliant they are at diplomacy throughout eve and that they were veritable gods of logistics. The time has come to prove these claims to one and all but instead what do we see, a forum full of pre-threadnaught propaganda about cynojammers and titans. Instead of confident predictions we see GOONS bleating jokingly about the fact they "do not exist" or other oldies and goldies from years ago. Show that you are the logistical, diplomatic and 0.0 warfare geniuses that you have claimed in the past to be or go back down south and be quiet. Bob will never be allowed to build up in 0.0 again Yeah, right. You really think that scores will not be settled beginning soon? You have been out played, out planned, and out fought. Take it like a man... Just who is going to stop them? Concord punishes people, it does not protect them
Fire Hawk Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:02:00 - [32] Originally by: Anahid Brutus Fifth, the game will go from Not Fun, to "I'm paying $15 a month so that Eve can be balanced like THIS?" and GoonSwarm will begin to lose a lot of players to other games, to boredom, to frustration, and to the general anger that people feel towards CCP for ruining their own game with ****** capital . There you go... Look Goons are not the only entity in eve and fact is you are the only one who is spamming the forum with a balance issue. Come on. Get out. DICE French Wing** ___ Fear the french touch.
Spoon Thumb Caldari Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:09:00 - [33] No offense to either side, but c'mmon goons, finish the job! If you hit a roadblock, find a way around, switch tactics, try some out of the box stuff (and I don't mean hacking their forums..). Surely you can't be out of options conmpletely Though the POS stuff, I'm really feeling for you there. Refuelling POS has to be the #1 cause of burnout in Eve IMO. Khaldari khanidpublic: RP channel for Kingdom loyalists Recruiting
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:14:00 - [34] :words: -------------
Vahl Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:15:00 - [35] Wow, some of you are just so easy to troll. Seriously, it almost takes the fun out of doing it. _________________________________________________________ ==REDSWARM FEDERATION== ...because we hate your f**king guts.
Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:18:00 - [36] Originally by: Vahl Wow, some of you are just so easy to troll. Seriously, it almost takes the fun out of doing it. I was really hoping he'd release this on a non-GS alt and say it was a directorate leak. Originally by: nlewis jammers are the meatshield [Bob] wish their pets were
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:23:00 - [37] die in NOL more whine less on the forum. Its all you goons are good for on your own. - - Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345
Yggdrassill Yeltsin The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:23:00 - [38] lol
Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:25:00 - [39] Originally by: Omega Man die in NOL more whine less on the forum. Its all you goons are good for on your own. Mmmm, your tears are delicious. Originally by: nlewis jammers are the meatshield [Bob] wish their pets were
mama guru Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.10 20:09:00 - [40] Originally by: Agmar Edited by: Agmar on 10/03/2008 16:07:05 Ok, I glanced over it, and point 5 and 6 made me laugh so hard that I defecated in my pants. I was there in F-T.... and that was before M. Corp and MC flip-flopped John Kerry style. No cookies for you. EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
mama guru Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.10 20:10:00 - [41] Originally by: Vahl Wow, some of you are just so easy to troll. Seriously, it almost takes the fun out of doing it. Sush. EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.03.10 20:23:00 - [42] MMMMMM babies! Oh....wait.... Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Anahid Brutus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.10 22:19:00 - [43] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Anahid Brutus I believe that the following facts are not in dispute: 1) Capital ships are the new battleships in fleet combat To a certain extent.. Originally by: Anahid Brutus 2) Without considering support fleets, Whoever has way more capital ships present at a battle than the other side is almost certainly going to win that fleet fight. Kinna a sweeping statement.. prolly you are generally correct, but i wouldnt agree this is 100% true.. Originally by: Anahid Brutus 3) You need more POSs than the other side to keep Sov and thus control over station systems. obviously Originally by: Anahid Brutus 4) You can only avoid fleet combat over POSs by timing stront so long as you have more POSs than the other guy and can block the rest of the moons in a system. It isnt up to the defender to avoid fleet combat, it is the attackers choice.. timing helps obviously, but it is always the attackers choice.. Originally by: Anahid Brutus Now let me advance some more facts that aren't in dispute for anybody who knows GS well: 5) GS/RA/TCF/etc. have far fewer capitals than BoB/Slaves/Allies/etc. I rather doubt this is true.. Originally by: Anahid Brutus 6) As they are now, Titans make almost all support fleets irrelevant. Only true in certain situations Originally by: Anahid Brutus 7) Virtually every one of our station systems has dozens of moons. Only matters when someone attacks you, and since you are mostly allied with 0.0, that isnt likely to be anytime soon Originally by: Anahid Brutus 8) We do not have the money to spam small offlines on every moon. I rather doubt that.. Originally by: Anahid Brutus 9) We certainly do not have the money to spam large deathstars in quantity. not what one of your FC's told me Originally by: Anahid Brutus 10) BoB/etc. have plenty of money, and they have begun to large POS spam. mueh.. wlep? Originally by: Anahid Brutus If you take accept points 1-10 I dont really... hmmmmmmm good points m8 you've changed my opinion :)
Seamus O'Malley Veni Vidi Vici. XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.03.10 22:29:00 - [44] I salute thee, dear sir
Hitme Harder HERRO KITTY	Posted - 2008.03.10 23:00:00 - [45] Edited by: Hitme Harder on 10/03/2008 23:01:24 Originally by: Dafuzz Originally by: xttz Bob will never be allowed to build up in 0.0 again Calling it now, DBP spy alt. Thanks, I needed that laugh. I look forward to ya trying to stop us Bring it. Did you just get trolled hard or did I just get trolled hard? AREN'T THEY ADORABLE?
Bonefish O'Hallahan GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.03.11 00:00:00 - [46] that's meta as ****
Neuraxis Aeon Extreme Addiction Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.03.11 00:34:00 - [47] If it is true goons have had and still have a good run. I donÆt favor bob or goons, goons are more annoying but I do believe bob where getting to big for their boots. Bob needed someone to show them they arenÆt totally invincible and goons brought the fight. But bob was never really going to make it easy but there is plenty of 0.0 space out there. You can still live in PS and connected system and just keep fighting it out without taking space, there is no reason to move back to syndicate you have worked for the space you currently have why give it up, starting using it to make money I remember the rats in PS being pretty darn cash. While you might not wipe bob out like you original planned you have put a halt to them taking half of eve, and letÆs face even if you did remove them from their space you would have to keep hunting them down for ever to really get rid of them.
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.11 01:51:00 - [48] Originally by: Agmar flip-flopped John Kerry style. Leave the stupid RL politics out of here. Especially when you don't know what you're talking about. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.03.11 02:19:00 - [49] tl;dr _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.03.11 02:38:00 - [50] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Anahid Brutus I believe that the following facts are not in dispute: 1) Capital ships are the new battleships in fleet combat To a certain extent.. Originally by: Anahid Brutus 2) Without considering support fleets, Whoever has way more capital ships present at a battle than the other side is almost certainly going to win that fleet fight. Kinna a sweeping statement.. prolly you are generally correct, but i wouldnt agree this is 100% true.. Originally by: Anahid Brutus 3) You need more POSs than the other side to keep Sov and thus control over station systems. obviously Originally by: Anahid Brutus 4) You can only avoid fleet combat over POSs by timing stront so long as you have more POSs than the other guy and can block the rest of the moons in a system. It isnt up to the defender to avoid fleet combat, it is the attackers choice.. timing helps obviously, but it is always the attackers choice.. Originally by: Anahid Brutus Now let me advance some more facts that aren't in dispute for anybody who knows GS well: 5) GS/RA/TCF/etc. have far fewer capitals than BoB/Slaves/Allies/etc. I rather doubt this is true.. Originally by: Anahid Brutus 6) As they are now, Titans make almost all support fleets irrelevant. Only true in certain situations Originally by: Anahid Brutus 7) Virtually every one of our station systems has dozens of moons. Only matters when someone attacks you, and since you are mostly allied with 0.0, that isnt likely to be anytime soon Originally by: Anahid Brutus 8) We do not have the money to spam small offlines on every moon. I rather doubt that.. Originally by: Anahid Brutus 9) We certainly do not have the money to spam large deathstars in quantity. not what one of your FC's told me Originally by: Anahid Brutus 10) BoB/etc. have plenty of money, and they have begun to large POS spam. mueh.. wlep? Originally by: Anahid Brutus If you take accept points 1-10 I dont really... you got trolled ---
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.11 02:57:00 - [51] You know, at first I thought this was a terrible idea for a thread and would get no good replies. Oh lordie how wrong I was
BoB sucks Burning Bush Enterprises	Posted - 2008.03.11 03:20:00 - [52] Originally by: Orange Species :words: :reply:
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.11 03:39:00 - [53] At what point did everybody stop assuming that every goon thread wasn't a troll? This thread is the best thread.
aQurio Infamous Technologies	Posted - 2008.03.11 04:21:00 - [54] And why syndicate? Stain is FAR better NPC space and only a few jumps from a fight with BOB. ----------------------- EVE addiction program needed.
PR0PAGANDA Gallente Raging Emo	Posted - 2008.03.11 04:27:00 - [55] this fight isnt over. i doubt goons or bob really want to stop as its more than likely fun for both other than fueling the pos. best thing that happened to goon was all the lackys falling off. goons depended on them to much. i mean venom? wtf they are horrible. goons and bob should stop the pos fight and just get good roaming fights out of it. let bob start the smack down on mc. everyone get some popcorn and watch as the leaders of mc take extended leaves of absence from eve. I buy t2 building parts. Mail me offers.
s0co	Posted - 2008.03.11 04:32:00 - [56] Instead of these posts regarding pos warfare shouldnt the goons think twice of going on the offence against bob if they cant keep up logistically? Nah you just wanna moan the face of it and make cheap excuses. Shame on you. You just got to laugh at these goonies with these pathetic posts. I mean they must make RA look bad in such a big way. RA 'call a friend' and get rid of these so called pvpers. You would do yourselfs a favour.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.11 04:52:00 - [57] what? I am broke and need isk to get my Thanatos combat ready against RA. All my peeps out there, please donate what you can to this character. boobs [IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/
Onchas Erivvia Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.11 04:53:00 - [58] Edited by: Onchas Erivvia on 11/03/2008 04:54:42 Originally by: Stahlregen At what point did everybody stop assuming that every goon thread wasn't a troll? This thread is the best thread. It's obviously a troll. Someone's even pointed out that it's Remedial's "let's throw in the bunk sock" post. Buuuut, who's he trolling? It's not like Goon morale is at a high point right now. Things were damn low before the SOTG. You guys got a week out of it. Your Allies went home, and not just to ride bikes this time. Participation remains extremely low in Goon primetime. You've had more participation with the GeeHad Swarm. Joe B. Goon is starting to get antsy again. Of course Goons are going to run in here (especially directors) and say, "haha troll". But, ya gotta wonder how many of the Swarm who have been saying, "the game sucks now. I had more fun flying around in a tech1 frig or cruiser not caring if I died than I do now having to show up in specific ships at specific times only to sit around in a POS shield for five hours because if my best-named and tech2 fit battleship gets blown up there isn't a free one just sitting at a Ship Maintenance Array for me." Maybe the easiest way to get your point across in the Goon-culture is to take someone else's words and put it up here instead of serious-posting it in the Goon forums to ridicule and scorn. Get some lulz, score some forum warrior cred, but also make the point. Hey, who knows, maybe I'm just getting meta-meta-trolled, but the timing of the post is really, really interesting. One week after the buck-up morale State of the Goonion. One week after the "mother-to-end-all-offensives" where it was supposed to be every Goon and the entire Coalition fell completely on its ass. This week nothing but whining about game mechanics -- as if that's the reason why your offensive fell apart. It's just interesting. --- "LOG OFF, LOG OFF, EVERYONE LOG THE F--- OFF NOW" - Suas, GoonSwarm Fleet Commander Sunday January 27, 2008 during a fleet fight with BoB in system QY6-RK, approximately 21:55 EVT
CootBoot GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.11 06:03:00 - [59] no way i'm reading that
Zorlag Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.11 06:07:00 - [60] I'm still trying to figure out who claimed we were good at 0.0 warfare, we're absolutely terrible

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