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Kyoko Sakoda Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.03.17 14:04:00 - [31] This is my kind of war. No matter who loses, I win.
Trent Valtine Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.03.17 14:57:00 - [32] Originally by: Archbishop The Gallente Initiate program is a great benefit to the Federation and you should thank us for it. Archbishop Please forgive us, Archbishop, if we don't believe you, the director of the SPCS, without question. Perhaps if you would allow us to stage an investigation into the working and living conditions of the "initiates" on Port Sanctuary, that could help to ease our concerns about how our citizens are being treated. But only if we were given a free hand to investigate the station, interview whoever we please, and disseminate any information we see fit. Your effort to preach to the poor and destitute could also be seen as manipulating our most vulnerable citizens. To my knowledge, there has been no Gallente investigation into Port Sanctuary since it was anchored in space.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.17 14:59:00 - [33] Originally by: Trent Valtine To my knowledge, there has been no Gallente investigation into Port Sanctuary since it was anchored in space. That's because Port Sanctuary clearly operates within the rules. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
PiF TAKAGI Corp	Posted - 2008.03.17 15:32:00 - [34] Originally by: Trent Valtine To my knowledge, there has been no Gallente investigation into Port Sanctuary since it was anchored in space. Actually, there was. The NeXus network of the TAKAGI Corp delegated a substancial amount of resources in order to gather intelligence over the activities of Port Sanctuary. I cannot reveal what the conclusions were here of course but so far, no legal actions could have been taken against the actions of Archbishop, due to the freedom of move and beliefs in the Federation. However, enslaving Gallente citizens is forbidden. While the NeXus network yet received no proof of such enslavement, investigations are still on their way and we are not withdrawing our effort. On a side note, I can only pinpoint the irony here where another Amarrian loyalist corporation, called Aegis Militia, is seeking to destroy the NeXus network... It seems that the will of war is back in the overall philosophy of the Amarr... Know something ? Sell it to the NeXus network
Daziel Iaar PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.17 15:51:00 - [35] Originally by: PiF Originally by: Trent Valtine To my knowledge, there has been no Gallente investigation into Port Sanctuary since it was anchored in space. Actually, there was. The NeXus network of the TAKAGI Corp delegated a substancial amount of resources in order to gather intelligence over the activities of Port Sanctuary. I cannot reveal what the conclusions were here of course but so far, no legal actions could have been taken against the actions of Archbishop, due to the freedom of move and beliefs in the Federation. However, enslaving Gallente citizens is forbidden. While the NeXus network yet received no proof of such enslavement, investigations are still on their way and we are not withdrawing our effort. On a side note, I can only pinpoint the irony here where another Amarrian loyalist corporation, called Aegis Militia, is seeking to destroy the NeXus network... It seems that the will of war is back in the overall philosophy of the Amarr... One Corporation does not answer for the whole of the Amarrian people's philosophy. "His Will Be Done"
Rathera D'Sarth	Posted - 2008.03.17 16:35:00 - [36] For once, it would be nice if people could be honest about their war declarations..."We have too much ammo and no one to fire it at" for instance. Jumping on the anti-Amarr bandwagon is being somewhat rote. Give an honest, truthfull answer to why you did it, rather than another recycled 'look over there! the Amarr! They're evil and enslave people' argument. You want to shoot at them because you enjoy killing and want a nice, convenient, 'politcaly safe' target to open fire on from your perspective. Go on, be honest. I'd be refreshing to see such honesty. http://www.ghostfestival.net Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.[/url]
Cypher Deus Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.03.17 19:00:00 - [37] Originally by: Rodj Blake That's because Port Sanctuary clearly operates within the rules. Hmm, but whose rules do you operate within I wonder ? Most certainly not those defined by the Gallente Federation, more likely those supposedly handed down to you by your God - the same rules that seem to give you the divine right to slavery grimaces It is this slavery that Strix Armaments & Defence are defending the Federation from, it being morally abhorrent and against everything that the Federation stands for. See you in space salutes
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.17 19:09:00 - [38] Then why not declare war on a group that actually forcibly takes slaves in the Federation instead of PIE? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
John Martin PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.17 19:35:00 - [39] If I may awnser your qestion Admiral. I belive that they can't see the difference between rouge slave traders and a honourable Corporation such as PIE.
Haverloth 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2008.03.17 23:36:00 - [40] Today Valeria forces met and engaged the first STRIX pilot encountered in this war. Pilot Tahj of Strix Armaments and Defence engaged a -VV- Impairor. A -VV- patrol in the area that had already successfully defeated heavy Ushra'Khan forces moved and engaged the enemy ship, a Huginn-type Recon vessel. After successfully pinning down the enemy warship, the patrol, composed of three Praetorian combat pilots and one Epitoth support vessel destroyed the warship. The attempted escape of pilot Tahj was also foiled. We salute the crew of the Huginn warship that were lost to the void, and lament that their Gallente masters send them to their deaths in such an ill-conceived manner. However, we will continue to engage and destroy enemy forces that continue their foolish campaign against us. ____________________
Archbishop PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.18 00:28:00 - [41] Quote: Please forgive us, Archbishop, if we don't believe you, the director of the SPCS, without question. Perhaps if you would allow us to stage an investigation into the working and living conditions of the "initiates" on Port Sanctuary, that could help to ease our concerns about how our citizens are being treated. But only if we were given a free hand to investigate the station, interview whoever we please, and disseminate any information we see fit. I'd love to be able to show you around the facility but the Initiates training regiment is strictly structured and even the slightest interuption could cause them to relapse back into the bad lifestyle choices that they embraced in your federation. Thus no tours of the facility are allowed for unauthorized personnel. Quote: "However, enslaving Gallente citizens is forbidden. While the NeXus network yet received no proof of such enslavement, investigations are still on their way and we are not withdrawing our effort." Exactly there is no "proof" because they are not enslaved but there voluntarily. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Vlad Cetes Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.03.18 01:10:00 - [42] Originally by: Archbishop I'd love to be able to show you around the facility but the Initiates training regiment is strictly structured and even the slightest interuption could cause them to relapse back into the bad lifestyle choices that they embraced in your federation. Thus no tours of the facility are allowed for unauthorized personnel. There are no security cameras? Surely a facility such as yours in such hostile territory would be well protected. If you are not open to a 'voluntary' inspection, perhaps we can see by destroying the facility and examining the remains. I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature.
Archbishop PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.18 03:39:00 - [43] Quote: There are no security cameras? Surely a facility such as yours in such hostile territory would be well protected. If you are not open to a 'voluntary' inspection, perhaps we can see by destroying the facility and examining the remains. Port Sanctuary is a peaceful facility. Should it be attacked and destroyed it would be replaced. Indeed it's predecessor Port Redemption was destroyed by a terrorist attack over a year ago. The failings of the SPCS to provide for adequate defenses in that case are now remedied with the new facility. Only criminals and terrorists unable to control their twisted violent ways would attack a peaceful organization like the SPCS which would in fact prove all we Amarr have been saying about the lessor races all along... wouldn't it. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Khan Rodak Manu Dei Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:09:00 - [44] Originally by: Marcel Bigeard (...) Therefore, effective immediately, a state of CONCORD-sanctioned war exists between Strix Armaments and Defence and two Amarrian alliances well known for their support of Port Sanctuary and other activities detrimental to Federation security and the cause of freedom: Vigilia Valeria and Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris. Never stop an enemy when he is about to make a mistake. See you soon. New Seminarium open
Cypher Deus Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:48:00 - [45] Originally by: Rodj Blake Then why not declare war on a group that actually forcibly takes slaves in the Federation instead of PIE? PIE may not be forcibly taking the slaves, but they are taking slaves nonetheless - by taking advantage of the vulnerable and weak-willed within Gallente society and subjugating/brainwashing them. Just because this is not by force does not make it any more acceptable, or legal. Of course if this is all a terrible mistake then please, feel free to open the doors of Port Sanctuary to CONCORD inspectors who can verify that no Gallente are being enslaved - this being the case then I am sure that the war declaration would be withdrawn. However I somehow doubt, given earlier responses from Archbishop, that such an inspection would allowed to take place by PIE - this can only lead us to assume that PIE have something to hide at Port Sanctuary ...
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:04:00 - [46] Originally by: Cypher Deus Of course if this is all a terrible mistake then please, feel free to open the doors of Port Sanctuary to CONCORD inspectors who can verify that no Gallente are being enslaved - this being the case then I am sure that the war declaration would be withdrawn. However I somehow doubt, given earlier responses from Archbishop, that such an inspection would allowed to take place by PIE - this can only lead us to assume that PIE have something to hide at Port Sanctuary ... I have no problem at all with you sending inspectors to Port Sanctuary. But you see, it's not my decision because Port Sanctuary is not owned or operated by PIE Inc. If you have a problem with Port Sanctuary perhaps you should take it up with its actual owners rather than declaring war on someone else. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Trent Valtine Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:14:00 - [47] Originally by: Archbishop I'd love to be able to show you around the facility but the Initiates training regiment is strictly structured and even the slightest interuption could cause them to relapse back into the bad lifestyle choices that they embraced in your federation. Thus no tours of the facility are allowed for unauthorized personnel. I'm sorry, Archbishop, but you simply aren't a reliable source of information. You don't ask an actress's publicist what boosters she's on, if you catch my meaning. It may just be a bit of my journalist mother in me, but when someone insists on working on something in secrecy, it indicates to me that they have a secret to keep. I'm sure others would agree. Transparency is important for an organization such as yours, whose motives can be easily misconstrued as sinister. Are you helping these poor, destitute individuals better themselves? Or are you manipulating them into a mousetrap of slavery and oppression with the promise of pulling them out of the gutter? Frankly, without the transparency I ask for, no one will ever know, and thus public opinion of both the Federation and the Republic might be swayed in the direction of, say, defending the citizens our against Amarran encroachment. This is not a threat. I'm a Mining Officer. I am not in the position to make threats. I am simply appealing to your sense of reason, and hopefully I'm also appealing to a man who sincerely wants to help people. If Port Sanctuary allows Federation citizens their full human rights under Federation law, and treats them with the respect they deserve, then no one will have any need to lift a hand against you. The Amarr religion in its self is not an evil. It is the people who use it as a tool of oppression that are evil. I don't want to think of you as an evil, or even misguided man. But how will anyone know your intentions unless you allow a full investigation of Port Sanctuary? Your word is simply not good enough.
Daziel Iaar PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:45:00 - [48] Edited by: Daziel Iaar on 18/03/2008 13:45:39 You can continue using Port Sanctuary as an excuse for declaring war on us, but as stated so many times before its becoming tiresome, Port Sanctuary does not belong to PIE and if that is your only reason for declaring war on PIE then it is a poor one. Declaring war on PIE does not stop anything, if anything it steps up patrols on the Amarr/Gallente border. "His Will Be Done"
Cypher Deus Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:53:00 - [49] Originally by: Rodj Blake I have no problem at all with you sending inspectors to Port Sanctuary. But you see, it's not my decision because Port Sanctuary is not owned or operated by PIE Inc. If you have a problem with Port Sanctuary perhaps you should take it up with its actual owners rather than declaring war on someone else If it is not owned or operated by PIE then why does Archbishop, a member of PIE, speak so vociferously on its behalf ? This would seem to be at odds with yourself, wishing to distance yourself from Port Sanctuary. The Amarr have obviously learnt something from their associations with the Caldari - how to hide their misdeeds behind red tape and bureaucracy. I'm afraid the discourse of Archbishop would appear to directly associate PIE with Port Sanctuary and its illegal operations, whether it is owned by a dummy corporation or otherwise.
Laerise PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:57:00 - [50] Edited by: Laerise on 18/03/2008 13:56:56 Port Roulette.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.18 14:01:00 - [51] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 18/03/2008 14:01:58 Originally by: Cypher Deus Originally by: Rodj Blake I have no problem at all with you sending inspectors to Port Sanctuary. But you see, it's not my decision because Port Sanctuary is not owned or operated by PIE Inc. If you have a problem with Port Sanctuary perhaps you should take it up with its actual owners rather than declaring war on someone else If it is not owned or operated by PIE then why does Archbishop, a member of PIE, speak so vociferously on its behalf ? This would seem to be at odds with yourself, wishing to distance yourself from Port Sanctuary. The Amarr have obviously learnt something from their associations with the Caldari - how to hide their misdeeds behind red tape and bureaucracy. I'm afraid the discourse of Archbishop would appear to directly associate PIE with Port Sanctuary and its illegal operations, whether it is owned by a dummy corporation or otherwise. Archbishop does indeed have connections to the SPCS, as do many other Amarrians both within and without PIE. Tell me, will you be declaring war on all alliances which have either current or past SPCS officials amongst their members? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Cypher Deus Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:18:00 - [52] Originally by: Rodj Blake Archbishop does indeed have connections to the SPCS, as do many other Amarrians both within and without PIE. Tell me, will you be declaring war on all alliances which have either current or past SPCS officials amongst their members? Unfortunately that decision is not mine - I am simply a pod-pilot flying in defence of my adopted home, the Gallente Federation. I have no problem if others wish to join the fight, that is their choice to make, but thus far none have stepped forward to support you ... if they do then I will always treat all slave traders equally. See you in space salutes
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:23:00 - [53] Originally by: Cypher Deus Originally by: Rodj Blake Archbishop does indeed have connections to the SPCS, as do many other Amarrians both within and without PIE. Tell me, will you be declaring war on all alliances which have either current or past SPCS officials amongst their members? Unfortunately that decision is not mine - I am simply a pod-pilot flying in defence of my adopted home, the Gallente Federation. I have no problem if others wish to join the fight, that is their choice to make, but thus far none have stepped forward to support you ... if they do then I will always treat all slave traders equally. See you in space salutes I wasn't asking if you would be happy to see others declaring war on you. I was asking if you would be declaring war on those alliances which have connections to the SPCS. Incidentally, if Archbishop's connection to the SPCS is the reason for this war, why exactly are you declaring war on VV but not the SPCS themselves? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Trent Valtine Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.03.18 16:03:00 - [54] Originally by: Rodj Blake I wasn't asking if you would be happy to see others declaring war on you. I was asking if you would be declaring war on those alliances which have connections to the SPCS. Incidentally, if Archbishop's connection to the SPCS is the reason for this war, why exactly are you declaring war on VV but not the SPCS themselves? Such questions would best be asked of our CEO or directors. But, as has been stated by our CEO, support of port sanctuary is only one reason for this declaration of war. Originally by: Marcel Bigeard Yet, the true danger is that a continued lack of response by the Federation military will convince our neighbours that we lack resolve. Lest our enemies believe that the balance of power now favours Amarrian arms, we must act. The cost in lives and quality of life to the cluster's population leaves us no choice. Therefore, effective immediately, a state of CONCORD-sanctioned war exists between Strix Armaments and Defence and two Amarrian alliances well known for their support of Port Sanctuary and other activities detrimental to Federation security and the cause of freedom: Vigilia Valeria and Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris. I've been speaking about Port Sanctuary not specifically because it is a cause of the war dec, but because it's an issue that concerns me. My comments aren't official statements from Strix, just my own words.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.18 16:24:00 - [55] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 18/03/2008 16:26:59 I notice that you forgot to quote the first half of the original statement. The half with the specific reference to Port Sanctuary in it. So I repeat my questions, this time to the organ grinder rather than the monkey. If you're declaring war on us because of our support for the SPCS, why are you not declaring war on the SPCS themselves. If you're declaring war on VV for their support of the SPCS, why are you not also declaring war on other alliance with equal or far closer links to the SPCS? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Cypher Deus Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.03.18 17:04:00 - [56] Originally by: Rodj Blake I wasn't asking if you would be happy to see others declaring war on you. I was asking if you would be declaring war on those alliances which have connections to the SPCS. Incidentally, if Archbishop's connection to the SPCS is the reason for this war, why exactly are you declaring war on VV but not the SPCS themselves? My apologies sir, I was merely pointing out the fact that decisions of that magnitude are not mine to make. As for why Strix does not declare war on all alliances that have connections with the SPCS ? I don't profess to be knowledgeable in such matters (I dislike politics and am happy to leave that to others within Strix), but from a military perspective it is a simple matter of good strategy - you don't engage a large threat head-on if you are relatively small in size, you engage it piecemeal in managable chunks. After PIE and VV have been dealt with, then perhaps the Strix leadership will shift their sights to the other organisations with links to SPCS ... but again I cannot speak with authority on these matters, and these are simply my opinions.
Gaius Kador PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.18 17:30:00 - [57] -nother aggressive move by a foreign corporation against PIE Inc. Welcome to the grinder. ----------------------------------------------
Aria Jenneth Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.03.18 17:44:00 - [58] It's enormously tempting to observe that "what goes around, comes around," but I'm not certain which group I'd be saying it to. Really, the activities and troubles of both Empires so thoroughly embody the principle that the two could be described as a pair of great, interlocking whirlwinds of going and coming around. By the way, is PIE still at war with Naqam? There's a lovely layer of irony to Strix' actions, if so, and I'm curious whether they avoided it.
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.03.18 19:13:00 - [59] Originally by: Rodj Blake Tell me, will you be declaring war on all alliances which have either current or past SPCS officials amongst their members? A list of such individuals or groups would be quite helpful. Thank you, and feel free to post it here or send it to me, whichever strikes you as more convenient! -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
Aleczander Kerr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2008.03.18 19:22:00 - [60] Originally by: Cypher Deus After PIE and VV have been dealt with, This made me laugh. All I can say is: Keep dreaming ... "It is better to die for the Emperor than live for yourself."

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