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Lord Zim
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
600
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:45:00 -
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1Of9 wrote:Lord Zim wrote:1Of9 wrote:Post with your main, grow some balls What makes you think he isn't posting with his main? i know a goon alt galaxies away
Sounds to me like you need to get your money back on that detector. It's not working very well. |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:46:00 -
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1Of9 wrote:i know a goon alt galaxies away
im afraid i have a confession to make |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:49:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Sorry thats not how the game works.
for now
you guys have a csm member, surely you can fight this injustice at the source |
baltec1
696
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:54:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Weaselior is posting up a storm, but still refuses to acknowledge that his side ignores any type of ship above battleships. "Hi I'm Goonswarm and I should be able to win every fight by clogging the guns of my enemy with some mid level **** ship because we're newbie friendly", meanwhile, Soundwave, aka Stofferninjapirate or whatever his name was slowly does his best t20 impression trying to get whatever change pushed through that Goons want the most. baltec1 wrote:
AAA could not commit supers for two very good reasons.
1. Their titan fleet is outnumbered and had no idea if this was a trap set so they would get counter dropped by even more supers and killed.
2. If they commited and managed to kill all of the PL fleet their losses would have been horrible. They would have won, but it would have crippled their own titan fleet which would make their space even more vulnerable.
PL titans were not helpless, if they were they would have died. AAA did a fantastic job but in the end, if they had not pulled off they would have eventually been killed to a man by the titan which do track tengu. The argument about EHP is also rather laughable given that a titans EHP even when fit for tracking is still greater than many fleets.
So what you're saying is that the 72 supercaps that AAA and Solar got online didn't jump because they wanted to be able to kill supers without risking even a cap fleet of their own, they instead tried to take the same road as everybody else and pretend that eve ship classes stop at battleships and that that, is what they should be able to kill everything in EVE with. Sorry thats not how the game works. You can't kill a Battlship fleet with a frigate fleet, you might kill one or 2, but largely, you're not going to do anything to them, just like you can't kill a supercap fleet with battleships, you must use dreads, or the job simply won't get done. That is as it should be, Weaselior can cry all he wants, but until you use the ships in game that can kill titans, you won't kill titans and they'll always be a problem for your team.
400 frigates vs 80 or so BS, the frigates have a good chance of winning. Not so with anything vs titans. |
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:00:00 -
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OK, enough of the foreplay. It's time for all of the elite players in the game to finally tell the silly children in Goons how wrong they've been.
Will one of you please explain how, say a younger alliance with 10,000 players with 30 titans, can take space from an old alliance, rich on tech with 1000 members and 100+ titans?
This is going to be EPIC! I can't wait to see all of the Goons freaking out about how obvious the answer is!
I mean DUHHH!
Go ahead.
I'll wait. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
600
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:01:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:"Hi I'm Goonswarm and I should be able to win every fight by clogging the guns of my enemy with some mid level **** ship because we're newbie friendly", meanwhile, Soundwave, aka Stofferninjapirate or whatever his name was slowly does his best t20 impression trying to get whatever change pushed through that Goons want the most.
"Hi, I'm PL, and I should be able to win every fight because I spent lots of isk to buy a big ship and I have lots of SP and I need me an end-game.", meanwhile totally ignoring the fact that at the strategic level, EVE is a 2 dimentional shithouse.
Which, I'm sure, would retain more bitter old vets if it was improved, than just having "big ships to train for". "Oh boy oh boy oh boy I get to activate yet another 1 month skill THIS GAME IS EXCITING NOW." |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:02:00 -
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Nao Oikawasan wrote:OK, enough of the foreplay. It's time for all of the elite players in the game to finally tell the silly children in Goons how wrong they've been.
Will one of you please explain how, say a younger alliance with 10,000 players with 30 titans, can take space from an old alliance, rich on tech with 1000 members and 100+ titans?
This is going to be EPIC! I can't wait to see all of the Goons freaking out about how obvious the answer is!
I mean DUHHH!
Go ahead.
I'll wait.
use the 10,000 members to elect a charismatic member of their group to the CSM and alter the game mechanics to their favor |
baltec1
697
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:06:00 -
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Nao Oikawasan wrote:OK, enough of the foreplay. It's time for all of the elite players in the game to finally tell the silly children in Goons how wrong they've been.
Will one of you please explain how, say a younger alliance with 10,000 players with 30 titans, can take space from an old alliance, rich on tech with 1000 members and 100+ titans?
This is going to be EPIC! I can't wait to see all of the Goons freaking out about how obvious the answer is!
I mean DUHHH!
Go ahead.
I'll wait.
HIde behind cyno jammers while getting those 10000 to mine, all day and night, untill you have 1000 titans. |
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:08:00 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Nao Oikawasan wrote:OK, enough of the foreplay. It's time for all of the elite players in the game to finally tell the silly children in Goons how wrong they've been.
Will one of you please explain how, say a younger alliance with 10,000 players with 30 titans, can take space from an old alliance, rich on tech with 1000 members and 100+ titans?
This is going to be EPIC! I can't wait to see all of the Goons freaking out about how obvious the answer is!
I mean DUHHH!
Go ahead.
I'll wait. use the 10,000 members to elect a charismatic member of their group to the CSM and alter the game mechanics to their favor
Uhhh! I'm talking to the L33T people, you goon (love the mommy bags by the way).
You know the ones who've been posting about all of the options for taking down a giant titan blob.
Just sit and wait for it. You're going to love this! |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2430
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:14:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Weaselior is posting up a storm, but still refuses to acknowledge that his side ignores any type of ship above battleships.
"Hi I'm Goonswarm and I should be able to win every fight by clogging the guns of my enemy with some mid level **** ship because we're newbie friendly", meanwhile, Soundwave, aka Stofferninjapirate or whatever his name was slowly does his best t20 impression trying to get whatever change pushed through that Goons want the most.
grath "just cyno in 500 dreads. what's bumping, precious?" telkin |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2440
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:21:00 -
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"people should use the ship my supercap is specifically designed to kill to try and counter my supercap" |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
393
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:30:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:"people should use the ship my supercap is specifically designed to kill to try and counter my supercap"
People should use the ship specifically designed to kill my supercap.
But you can ignore the truth for the sake of your mad posting spree. |
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:32:00 -
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Oh...... Nothing?
I thought for sure with all this talk about how the Goons were simply using the wrong tactics that there was some way to do it.
Just something quick?
Guess the Goons might have a point then.
Never mind. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
602
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:32:00 -
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So, grath, when do we have enough titans in enough alliances that we have to get CCP to design a ship above titans, so bitter vets have ~some content~ to train for? |
Wirbin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:43:00 -
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Grath's apparently done with this game and doesn't want to have to figure out anything more complicated than "do we have more of the big things than the other guys do?" to get his semi-annual fleet battle on.
Please think of the bitter vets so they don't have to! What a travesty it would be if everyone who didn't want large scale engagements to be any more complicated than "bring more of a single unit type than the other guy" just logged off forever because you made it too hard for them! |
Grad Vic
SregginWaffe
Elite Space Guild
0
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:47:00 -
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Futur content may include but is not limited to a death star w/ AoE.
After the inevitable nerf we will be left with tracking death stars.
After that inevitable nerf (and related forum complaining) will come super star juggernaughts (SSJ for short) I and II. I think you can see where this is going. The end of the Eve time continuum
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Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:47:00 -
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Wait. What ship was specifically designed to kill the titan?
If it's the titan itself, I think we have an infinite loop error in our programming. |
Wirbin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:54:00 -
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Well, I think we've ruled out capitals and subcapitals... |
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:56:00 -
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Hate to say it. But I think I see a future where PL members no longer have personal 10 billion isk a month tech moons all to themselves.
They may have to start doubling up. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
393
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:01:00 -
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Wirbin wrote:Well, I think we've ruled out capitals and subcapitals...
If you've ruled out capitals its your own fault and you are in fact the idiot, because they are what you need to field.
Nao Oikawasan wrote:Hate to say it. But I think I see a future where PL members no longer have personal 10 billion isk a month tech moons all to themselves.
They may have to start doubling up.
We've collected over 6 trillion isk in the past 365 days, so, maybe not.
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Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:06:00 -
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Better put that under your pillow.
We'll talk after the nerf about how your "collections" are graphing.
How's mintchip btw? Still minty fresh? |
testobjekt
Creative Accounting Institute
88
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:12:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:
We've collected over 6 trillion isk in the past 365 days, so, maybe not.
I hope this is alliance income and not overall income of PL |
Wirbin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:12:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:
If you've ruled out capitals its your own fault and you are in fact the idiot, because they are what you need to field.
nope, it's actually "more titans"
Thanks again for (not) playing! |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
566
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:17:00 -
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did grath really just scream DEVSWARM FEDERATION |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
394
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:21:00 -
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testobjekt wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:
We've collected over 6 trillion isk in the past 365 days, so, maybe not.
I hope this is alliance income and not overall income of PL
Moon income is ran differently in PL than most alliances who 'nationalize' moons, or let corps own them, so that the common man never sees a dime of it and just gets ships replaced or a spreadsheet of expenditures.
Here a moon is given a caretaker (literally anybody can be a caretaker) and they pay the alliance a fee every month to control the tower, this amounts to just about half what the towers make, so if a moon makes 8 billion a month, the player caretaker gets 4 and the alliance gets 4.
Thus the whole of our moon take over the past year is 6 trillion, split into the alliance getting 3, and the members of the allaince getting 3 trillion. The alliance income is then used to manipulate the market, we invest the cash, and the profit from that is then turned into new titans and supercarriers, plus a modest hictor/dictor/logistics reimbursement program, and a supercap replacement program. Contract isk then goes to replace mainline ships used in the completion of a contract (BS/Tengus).
This model insures maximum participation during moon defense, people show to defend your moons because they want people to defend their moons.
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:did grath really just scream DEVSWARM FEDERATION
Are you denying that one of the lead guys is an ex goon who seems to always push forward changes that benefit your alliance?
I mean, the older players in the game remember this happening before, and in many of our opinions Soundwave was the worst possible choice for a lead guy as he has well known player connections still.
Who knows, maybe you're a new goon and you weren't around when he still played. |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
566
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:22:00 -
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pandevic legion more like |
baltec1
703
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:24:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:did grath really just scream DEVSWARM FEDERATION
You have to forgive him, this will be the 5th or 6th time PL have based their entire alliance around a FOTM only to get curbstomped by everyone when CCP nerfed it. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
394
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:did grath really just scream DEVSWARM FEDERATION You have to forgive him, this will be the 5th or 6th time PL have based their entire alliance around a FOTM only to get curbstomped by everyone when CCP nerfed it.
Yea, oddly enough, we're still PL and you're still baltec1
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Bondeknold
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:28:00 -
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this game has come down to mittani Saying something at csm and ordering 8000 people to spamm the forum on the matter and ccp ''thinking'' Oh .. i guess thats what people want
ive always wondered how mittani can be in CSM .. its been shown several times how he Leaks Inside info to hes own alliance .. goonswarm recieved news on the super nerf way before enyone els . last time i checked Leaking info and trying to influence ccp for your own benefit wasent allowed .. but it seems like that rule has been removed lately
Props to mittani for manipulating everyone around him and having hes way with ccp and gettin all hes enemy's nerfed instead of teaching hes fc's to command a fleet .
formula must be something like
x beats goons = its overpowered and needs fixing |
Karadion
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
458
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:30:00 -
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Bondeknold wrote: its been shown several times how he Leaks Inside info to hes own alliance .. Prove it.
(9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |
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