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Pan Crastus
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.03.17 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kolwrath
Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: Kolwrath
Yeah exacaly, it diden't change anything to be honest. Everyone had a bazillion of instas instead of the game mechanic.
What it changed was the possibility of safespotted roaming gangs to warp to 0 on a gate from anywhere in the system to escape/logoffski.
.... I see what you did there ... tried to sneak in a logoffski rant. Nice try.
I pointed out something that WTZ changed over instas. Not my fault that for every sensible posting with simple facts you get 2 ******** replies from people with 0 reading comprehension.
EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2008.03.17 19:15:00 -
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So nobody can have ur stuff? ur taking it to ur grave huh> not only whining, but spiteful as well!
Cmon! u don't need it, give people ur stuffz, or atleast give it to one of ur corpies. _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
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Jin Masaru
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.17 19:18:00 -
[93]
Any stuff left for me? Can I have it? ----
[i]"There comes a time when a man must spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats." - H. L. Mencken[/i |

Zeba
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.17 19:47:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Personally I think you just got tired of the game.
Welcome back in a year or so. Nobody leaves forever. Eve is too unique.
Did that a few times myself over the years but I always pay the subs to keep those glorious sp racking up. Longest time I was away was like 4 months and Eve felt like a whole new game when I started again.  --------------------- Q: WTF! Why?! A: Because I can. --------------------- |

Miyamoto Uroki
PURE Legion Pure.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:04:00 -
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Agree with the op, except for the hardcore part. End game should be hardcore, yes. But your first steps into eve not. Still ccp kinda fails here as most technics are still trial and error. Like when I joined in 2003.
But to ccp: Don't you see some points where you need to improve when hearing the same complains again and again? And I don't mean to provide instant solutions, we know that some things are very very hard to find a fix suitable for the majority. But more in terms of giving feedback. Actual status of development, gathering ideas etc.
To us paying customers it looks like you don't care anymore. Ofc ccp has grown a lot and a big company needs plans and standards etc. But it feels like you lost contact to your customers. And I know what I am talking about here as I have been with Eve since summer 2003 actually.
STEP UP and TALK to us, at least give a single statement about plans or your view of information for the player side.
Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face
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Zeba
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 17/03/2008 20:08:54
Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki STEP UP and TALK to us, at least give a single statement about plans or your view of information for the player side.
Yes CCP we need a forum section that is only for info about the game with the devs constantly posting in it.
Oh Wait.. --------------------- Q: WTF! Why?! A: Because I can. --------------------- |

Haks'he Lirky
Dominion Imperium
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:10:00 -
[97]
best "I quit" post I have seen I think, at least the most constructive one.
gj and gl.
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Nooto
n0thing Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:13:00 -
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mhm talekd with a few corpmates about exact the same issues and also chancelled three of for subscriptions. fourth remain for a few months to check if there are balances and to skill a few skills but would also be shut down if there are no fixes for the problems.
BEWARE!!!
All text above this sig represents my personal opinion. This in no way reflects the views of my corporation or alliance |

Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:15:00 -
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Come on Awox, I thought you were cooler than that. You are quitting for all the wrong reasons.
logoffski: This has always been a problem, from the time EVE began. In fact, devs made a tiny improvement in solving this issue. It's nothing new.
warp to zero: It's the best solution to a bad situation. Every uber fighter had instas. More noobs got opportunity to get away, but this has no impact on hardcore gamer. I dunno about you, but I value hardcore player kills much more than noob kills. So it didn't make much difference.
nanoships: Yes this is a matter of personal preferences. I wish this game had more twitch elements. I could even enjoy joystick controls with 1st point of view. One thing for sure, nanoships introduce more opportunity for player skill, for those that fly them and for those that kill them. CCP are not dumbing down the game with this one. They would if they nerfed speed.
farming: Same as logoffski, always been a problem, nothing new. I don't like what CCP is doing. CCP goes as far as to protect the farmers from players with GM action simply cause the player identified farmers as chinese. As if them being chinese supposed to grant them some immunity.
lag: since I don't participate in fleet battles, this has rarely bothered me. If you play a certain way you can avoid most lag.
crowded: This is true and can cause problems, but not enough to justify quitting game.
hitpoint buffs: I was one of the people who defended 50% HP buff. Back then I used to get tons of kills in my sniper Eagle, without even using scrambler or web. After the buff Eagle became completely useless. Now the tanking does seem to be rather heavy, but I think we could improve this situation by curing CCP from damage-phobia: make them reduce damage rig calibration points, introduce better faction gear for increasing damage, maybe even a damage gang bonus.
blobs: again, if you play a certain way you can avoid blob problems. Having an alt scout is enough.
bugs: this has always been an issue.
2nd job: no pain - no gain
You totally missed out on the most important quit-worthy point: Nerfing, random, ruthless, stealthy nerfing of the game we want to play.
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Sensor Error
Temple of the Blue Fish
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Awox lag: CCP like add features, but every time they do, they seem to increase either ammount of CTDs/desyncs (Yes, they do still occur. Just less frequently!) or the ammount of RAM the EVE client consumes.
I have to say a fair few of your other points ring home, but you've just completely contradicted yourself there
They increase the CTDs/ descyncs - just less frequently
which is it? RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:26:00 -
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OMG I CAN I HAVE UR ST00FZ!?!?!?! _____________________________ "So what do you need, besides a miracle?"
"Guns... Lots of guns" |

Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:30:00 -
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I was joking, fair points made, I agree with most of them. _____________________________ "So what do you need, besides a miracle?"
"Guns... Lots of guns" |

Grim Vandal
Burn Proof
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Vandal on 17/03/2008 20:33:16 My account is still active but I dont play since revelations 1 anymore.
logoffski: agree
warp to zero: instas needed to go, but god damn it they screwed it up with WTZ. This is the number 1 reason why I dont play anymore. (I am not a pirate)
nanoships: actually mwd ships, teh mwd module is so wrong and the devs even know it. a shame
farming: agree
lag: is always a problem, didnt leave cuz of lag tho
crowded: why there are only sooooooo few chokepoints while on the other hand we have WTZ is beyond meh, sure its crowded with instas for everything
Hitpoint buffs: tanking is handled wrong imho in eve, an active armor tank says it all
blobs: lack of tactical weapons sure is a problem
2nd job: I would love to have this 2nd job if it would mean something again
hardcore: isnt hardcore at all anymore, ship kills are getting pretty pointless and no adrenalin rush anymore says it all
alts: what about alts??? how much ****** up is it that a pirate finances himself with a mission alt = pure gheyness, although pirates need a boost tbh.

Greetings Grim |

Aleyna
Yashio Factory
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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:38:00 -
[104]
<Insert 100 flames from the deepest pits of geek hell>
oh damn, i forgot to log on my alt to do that.
been fun awox, see ya in 6 months then we can go do something somewhere with someone and then you can gank me with your alts.
oh and gimme ur stuff! do you... yarhoo? |

Loyal Servant
Viper Intel Squad
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:01:00 -
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Fanboys kill me.. 
Awox, I know I have gone up against you here and there..  Nice post, agree with you probably 90% so I am not going to go into what I don't agree with, etc.
Funny thing is that this comes on the heels of me preparing to drop 3 accounts because I cannot sit here anymore and watch CCP boost farmers as another poster said, and give chinese people clemency. I too, have seen that one... it's just wrong.
No, you can't have my stuff. I may return, but that depends on CCP and how they deal with the farming. This patch was supposed to combat spam and all, problem is that it increased with this last patch.
Will I be back? depends. Thats $44.85 a month going for now.
This is your most hated isk farmer hunter, signing off.
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Pwett
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:03:00 -
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Oh Awox, I was wondering why you haven't stopped by our vent recently.
I wish you the best of luck, and hope you come back. I still remember flying with you back in the old Molden Heath before it became a NMTZ blob fest!
Stop by vent sometime, QUANT misses you! _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Haargoth Agamar
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Haargoth Agamar on 17/03/2008 21:04:16 I do see where you are coming from, but personally I am having too much fun atm to even think of quiting. :p still sucks to see you go Awox, you were always good for a laugh <3
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:19:00 -
[108]
Note to 2006 and newer players:
You all moved just 1 step up the ranking list.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

DaveW
South Park Development
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:39:00 -
[109]
Whoever you were, you still are.... ---------------------------------------------------
"If you can't stand the heat..., stay out of the Kitchen." |

Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.17 21:44:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Awox To anybody who cares, I thought I would share the reasons why today I cancelled my two EVE subscriptions. A year ago this would have been a difficult decision to make, but today I saw it on my credit card bill and thought "WTF I am still subbed?".
Later Awox.
-Liang -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance. |

Tado
JuBa Corp RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.17 22:03:00 -
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Never thought I would say this but I totally aggree with Awox.
I have been playing this game since the very start and have loved every minute of it until the last couple of patches.
To many things are broken with EVE at current and when ever something finally does get "fixed" it just ends up breaking something else.
Good luck Awox 
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Monkey Brother
Happy Life Creator
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Posted - 2008.03.17 22:27:00 -
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You take this game far too seriously and way too personal. It's a game, so just play and have fun, don't worry so much, it's not like it's your entire life or anything... is it?
So what if people log off, I don't get an ulcer over it. So what if people use nano ships, I don't lose sleep over it.
But if you're not having fun, just leave, no need to be a drama queen. Stopping to play a computer game is not a big deal and nothing to go all emo over. -------------- Monkey Brother CEO of HAPLI For standings, contact Monkey Brother |

Karanth
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.17 22:34:00 -
[113]
tl;dr
Your stuff, can I has?
"Current Earth-Destruction Status" |

Awox
Advanced Logistics Cosa Nostra.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 00:18:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Awox
So, after playing this game for so long I feel I need to give my reasons for leaving, not for CCP's sake, but for the sake of those who are curious. These aren't whines, I am not crying. I am an adult, you are [probably] an adult too. Please respect that I am only sharing my opinion, and explaining myself to my friends in this game. (Yeah, I have 2 or 3. Srsly.)
read my post
Originally by: Monkey Brother But if you're not having fun, just leave, no need to be a drama queen. Stopping to play a computer game is not a big deal and nothing to go all emo over.
before replying again please. :)
To those who asked for my stuff: Sorry, but I am in the process of transferring it all to my corp mates - I shared some great times with these guys and they always had my back. 
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The TX
Earth Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Awox To those who asked for my stuff: Sorry, but I am in the process of transferring it all to my corp mates - I shared some great times with these guys and they always had my back. 
Word. ------ THE TX |

cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.18 01:12:00 -
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I support your choice Awox and wish you luck in your future endeavors. When a game ceases to be fun, don't let it act like a chain on your life. Free yourself of that chain and do what you truly enjoy. There's not much more I can say about this. ---
Join BH-DL Skills |

Niko medes
bad production llc Cold Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.18 01:16:00 -
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bb awox ---------------------------
Recruiting |

Zorlag
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.18 01:34:00 -
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now l4x will be boring :( billy merc i hope you're reading this thread
but seriously i think it's probably more that you are growing up and maturing and realizing that watching internet spaceships is a pretty terrible use of time (it is)
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bozwold
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.18 01:51:00 -
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<3 Awox you'll be missed mate.
Hope you come back soon and enjoy the cooking buddy.
boz
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Travis Wells
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.03.18 02:02:00 -
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You will be missed Awox...but i don't think you will be gone for very long.
P.S. Don't be a stranger, stop but vent.
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