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MAXSuicide Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:06:00 - [61] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 17/03/2008 23:59:03 look at all those serious goons! hey.. forums are serious business u just wanted to use that line didnt u..
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:07:00 - [62] Originally by: Twoside blah blah ....erm blah erm.. 30k membership with all the ships and renewable resources and pilots that go with it and you still failed to take all of BOB's space and now you are on the back foot and bleating about them not taking space off you fast enough.
Garia666 T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:11:00 - [63] By surviving they will recieve even more respect then any other alliance. They will be the only alliance who stood and faught and won. They will be what they stand for. A band of brothers.. Respect Quote: CCP Chronotis Amarr boost is coming in a future dev blog, lets keep this on topic
Fry Fortune Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:28:00 - [64] Maralt is the best bob alt on this forum c/d?
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:31:00 - [65] Originally by: Garia666 By surviving they will recieve even more respect then any other alliance. They will be the only alliance who stood and faught and won. They will be what they stand for. A band of brothers.. Respect Respect?
Sarwaka Foehammer The Same 20 Guys	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:32:00 - [66] Why BOB left those regions to Goons
Moe Sczyzlak Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:47:00 - [67] Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer Why BOB left those regions to Goons All politics and hates / dislikes aside. That WAS fun.
mama guru Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:49:00 - [68] Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer Why BOB left those regions to Goons Lol - sums up the war pretty well. EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
mama guru Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.18 12:50:00 - [69] Originally by: Garia666 They will be the only alliance who stood and faught and won. EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
Derek Brutor Gods Unwanted	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:22:00 - [70] From what i understand trying to translate most of the forum topics on this conflict it would seem that neither side accomplished there tasking. However i'm sure fun was had by all. Right now i don't see BoB or Goons disappearing off into nothingness. Both sides will be around for a long time, and i'm sure many posts are going to be made on there intended plans. Sooner or later though alliances get to big and spread out, internal backstabbing and politics result in another large alliance failing and loosing everything they have. All that follows is the epic post of "We will be back" but thats about as epic as it ever gets. Good fights to all involved no doubt it is earned. And i'm sure you will be fighting on. -- -- http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Derek+Brutor-kills.html

WeightedCompanionCube Aperture Science Enrichment Center	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:31:00 - [71] Originally by: Garia666 By surviving they will recieve even more respect then any other alliance. They will be the only alliance who stood and faught and won. They will be what they stand for. A band of brothers.. Respect BoB will forever be the ones who had a CCP employee give them stuff. Squeezing their entire alliance into a single system to prevend being destroyed is not new either.
Elfaen Ethenwe omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:44:00 - [72] BoB may have had ccp assistance and 'cheated' the rest of the eve comunity. But the one thing that BoB had that Goons lack is respect for the rest of the comunity. It may have been shown in an overly arogent way but it was there. Goons lack this respect they dont even show it to each other. For this reason alone i have no time for goons and given enough time i honestly hope BoB drive you out of the game for good. As for RA. They show respect to there enemy. They have the abillity to cripple any alliance in game, they are the new superpower. Goons are just there over zealous pets. <><><>Together we gank, devided we pop<><><><>
Onchas Erivvia Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:54:00 - [73] Originally by: WeightedCompanionCube BoB will forever be the ones who had a CCP employee give them stuff. Squeezing their entire alliance into a single system to prevend being destroyed is not new either. The propaganda will always be that BoB was an Alliance who had a CCP employee give them stuff. The fact that they didn't know that it was illbegotten or that it was returned to CCP when the corp it was given to found out it was illbegotten (despite CCP saying they didn't have to), will be lost to the depths of asshattery. --- "LOG OFF, LOG OFF, EVERYONE LOG THE F--- OFF NOW" - Suas, GoonSwarm Fleet Commander Sunday January 27, 2008 during a fleet fight with BoB in system QY6-RK, approximately 21:55 EVT
Derek Brutor Gods Unwanted	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:59:00 - [74] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: WeightedCompanionCube BoB will forever be the ones who had a CCP employee give them stuff. Squeezing their entire alliance into a single system to prevend being destroyed is not new either. I think BoB have not been in the situation at any time where there alliance was in danger of being destroyed. And as for the CCP employee incident i would have thought people would have moved on by now. My mistake most players have already -- -- http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Derek+Brutor-kills.html
Mo Steel Sanguis vix Dignatio	Posted - 2008.03.18 14:27:00 - [75] Originally by: maralt Lets recap shall we. [SNIP] You nerfed aspects of the game so that blob spamming was noW a successful way to gain space so you switched too taking space as how you define winning. Gonns = Devs now? I lol'd. ----- Want a sig made? Eve-Mail me, signatures made for 5 million isk each.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 14:31:00 - [76] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: WeightedCompanionCube BoB will forever be the ones who had a CCP employee give them stuff. Squeezing their entire alliance into a single system to prevend being destroyed is not new either. The propaganda will always be that BoB was an Alliance who had a CCP employee give them stuff. The fact that they didn't know that it was illbegotten or that it was returned to CCP when the corp it was given to found out it was illbegotten (despite CCP saying they didn't have to), will be lost to the depths of asshattery. The indecent in question was in fact very small and insignificant realy and had it happened in a small alliance or corp it would have never gotten the amount of exaggerated exposure that it did. The reason why ppl went on about it so much and still do is because it is an excuse to hurt an alliance that was, has or still is kicking ppls asses. The amount of ppl actually involved and the real value of the items is utterly insignificant on anything but an individual level but the BOB haters and drama queens used it and still try to use it as if it was the entire alliance and every member that was involved. Much worse in my opinion are those who as an alliance took such an insignificant thing to out of game forums and threatened the existence of the game itself just to hurt the alliance that was kicking their ass.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 14:41:00 - [77] Originally by: Mo Steel Originally by: maralt Actually at one time it was your objective to remove BOB but you failed at it like you have done most of your objectives. Lets recap shall we, you started measuring winning by isk value because you flew t1 junk, then when you got tight with RA who flew high value ships you had to change what you considered to be winning. You nerfed aspects of the game so that blob spamming was now a successful way to gain space so you switched too taking space as how you define winning. And now that BOB is defending strongly and once again you are failing we see a lot of posts about BOB not taking QY6 fast enough so it seems you have switched to BOB not killing you fast enough as winning until your latest nerf comes in and you switch again. And on that subject i thought you were gonna take NOL before the nerf as you thought the "victory would be sweeter" that way?. Its quite a turnaround from that to a "BOB is not beating us/taking QY6 fast enough" stance isn't it, would you care to explain or were you just saying that so you can post it after the nerf does your work for you?. Gonns = Devs now? I lol'd. Maybe i should have put "had nerfed" instead of just nerfed as blackmailing ccp does not make you devs just crappy gamers who while outnumbering BOB over 2-1 still needed to get changes to the game mechanics to gain any ground.
Garia666 T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.03.18 14:48:00 - [78] Edited by: Garia666 on 18/03/2008 14:48:38 I lol'd. Maybe i should have put "had nerfed" instead of just nerfed as blackmailing ccp does not make you devs just crappy gamers who while outnumbering BOB over 2-1 still needed to get changes to the game mechanics to gain any ground. maralt 1 goon 0 Quote: CCP Chronotis Amarr boost is coming in a future dev blog, lets keep this on topic
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.18 14:52:00 - [79] Edited by: Malachon Draco on 18/03/2008 14:53:22 Originally by: maralt Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: WeightedCompanionCube BoB will forever be the ones who had a CCP employee give them stuff. Squeezing their entire alliance into a single system to prevend being destroyed is not new either. The propaganda will always be that BoB was an Alliance who had a CCP employee give them stuff. The fact that they didn't know that it was illbegotten or that it was returned to CCP when the corp it was given to found out it was illbegotten (despite CCP saying they didn't have to), will be lost to the depths of asshattery. The indecent in question was in fact very small and insignificant realy and had it happened in a small alliance or corp it would have never gotten the amount of exaggerated exposure that it did. The reason why ppl went on about it so much and still do is because it is an excuse to hurt an alliance that was, has or still is kicking ppls asses. The amount of ppl actually involved and the real value of the items is utterly insignificant on anything but an individual level but the BOB haters and drama queens used it and still try to use it as if it was the entire alliance and every member that was involved. Much worse in my opinion are those who as an alliance took such an insignificant thing to out of game forums and threatened the existence of the game itself just to hurt the alliance that was kicking their ass. Actually I think it became very big because it happened to an alliance where the accusations of Dev involvement and metagaming were extremely prevalent long before T20 got exposed. Had the same happened to for example D2 at the time, it would have been just 'an incident'. With BoB it was an incident that 'proved' for many people that everything they suspected was true all along (whether that is indeed the case is another matter, we can speculate however long we want to, neither I can prove this was just one of many incidents, nor can BoB prove they are squeeky clean except for the T20 thing). Add to that half a dozen or so CCP employees were forced to leave BoB including high profile people like whatshisface the GM and as far as I was told, Eris Discordia and you have a scandal brewing that will be impossible to ignore. Then to add on top of it all, BoB used to love smearing its opponents all over the forums, which gives plenty of enemies old and new all the excuses they will ever need to make sure that the old issues are brought up over and over again. Had it only been this one incident involving BoB, then I bet it would have faded long ago. But considering all the suspicions that have surrounded them for ages, and their own willingness to smear and disgrace any enemy and use whatever means at their disposal to hurt their enemies, it is no wonder that when the chance arrived lots of people jumped at the chance to do it to them. Poetic justice I guess.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:00:00 - [80] Edited by: maralt on 18/03/2008 15:03:27 Every hghly successful alliance, guild or what ever you choose to call them in every MMO is accused of exactly the same things as BOB was and as many times. The fact is that after the investigation the only proof of dev involvement found was a couple of BPO's given to a couple of players. The fact is that even now this month ppl are still going on about devs still being involved in fights BOB wins just as they did in the past but the difference is now they use the t20 indecent like it adds weight to them, its all a load of crap from ppl who cannot deal with losing to better players. Innocent until proven guilty is the rule of law and a couple of players were guilty the rest is either paranoia or ppl using those incidents as propaganda.

Brmble GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:03:00 - [81] Originally by: maralt Originally by: Onchas Erivvia The propaganda will always be that BoB was an Alliance who had a CCP employee give them stuff. The indecent in question was in fact very small and insignificant realy haha ~ no not believin in urself ~
Mo Steel Sanguis vix Dignatio	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:12:00 - [82] Edited by: Mo Steel on 18/03/2008 15:14:55 Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 18/03/2008 14:48:38 Originally by: maralt Maybe i should have put "had nerfed" instead of just nerfed as blackmailing ccp does not make you devs just crappy gamers who while outnumbering BOB over 2-1 still needed to get changes to the game mechanics to gain any ground. maralt 1 goon 0 That'd have to be +1, not 1. Maralt has lost about 20 points in this thread from what I've read. ;) ----- Want a sig made? Eve-Mail me, signatures made for 5 million isk each.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:17:00 - [83] Originally by: Mo Steel Edited by: Mo Steel on 18/03/2008 15:14:55 Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 18/03/2008 14:48:38 Originally by: maralt Maybe i should have put "had nerfed" instead of just nerfed as blackmailing ccp does not make you devs just crappy gamers who while outnumbering BOB over 2-1 still needed to get changes to the game mechanics to gain any ground. maralt 1 goon 0 That'd have to be +1, not 1. Maralt has lost about 20 points in this thread from what I've read. ;) You need glasses pal. I own GOONS on this forum.
Nekumi GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:18:00 - [84] Edited by: Nekumi on 18/03/2008 15:18:18 Originally by: maralt You need glasses pal. I own GOONS on this forum. qft, there is none better
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:21:00 - [85] Originally by: Nekumi Edited by: Nekumi on 18/03/2008 15:18:18 Originally by: maralt You need glasses pal. I own GOONS on this forum. qft, there is none better YAY its Dr nekums, hi buddy guess what were going over again.
Nekumi GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:22:00 - [86] Originally by: maralt YAY its Dr nekums, hi buddy guess what were going over again. Fill me in, there's so many different flavours to these things, that it can be hard for someone like me to follow.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:29:00 - [87] Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: maralt YAY its Dr nekums, hi buddy guess what were going over again. Fill me in, there's so many different flavors to these things, that it can be hard for someone like me to follow. Well it kinda started with one of your guys posting that BOB is not taking QY6 fast enough then followed the normal path through the goonie/bob history of accusations and allegations and me pointing out how stupid and empty they were. Ending with the normal insults about me being an alt and being biased against goons (like its actually news after 2 years or about 6 pages ffs).
Nekumi GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:35:00 - [88] Edited by: Nekumi on 18/03/2008 15:35:18 Originally by: maralt Well it kinda started with one of your guys posting that BOB is not taking QY6 fast enough then followed the normal path through the goonie/bob history of accusations and allegations and me pointing out how stupid and empty they were. Ending with the normal insults about me being an alt and being biased against goons (like its actually news after 2 years or about 6 pages ffs). I thought they where being ironic but maybe it's my bias showing and not yours. It can be difficult to tell sometimes. At least we both came to a conclusion about something though.
ghost tr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:35:00 - [89] Originally by: maralt Originally by: Tarantelita 1st move for BoB: Secure Delve (in all aspects). 2nd move: Making NAP:s with a few importend powers in EVE, making sure they dont allie Goons or MC. 3rd move: When Delve is secured and Goons are no threat to BoB POS:es and infrastructior within Delve and from Delve to empire, they are going to launche one atack on MC that makes MC looks like noobs in 0.0 warfear. 4th move: When MC is removed from their home (that infact were BoB space rented out to MC), the BoB "master plan" (lol at that ) will continue. 1st step in that atacking Goons. Now you know at least 6 month ahead what will go on in the south Its proly a better plan than goons are trying, make sad little attempts to bait BOB into leaving their back door open so they can invade while also waiting for a nerf to do their job for them. CCP never even thought of what would happen if you blobbed multiple supercaps in one system Also the only reason the goonies haven't already taken delve is because of server limitations keeping the swarm out. All bob needs to do is blob up before an assault, assuring that only a limited number of goons can get in. Hopefully we get some server fixes soon (hear that CCP, lets not take till december mmmk?) that allow the swarm to go in there in force, like it should be.
maralt The seers of truth	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:37:00 - [90] Originally by: Nekumi Edited by: Nekumi on 18/03/2008 15:35:18 Originally by: maralt Well it kinda started with one of your guys posting that BOB is not taking QY6 fast enough then followed the normal path through the goonie/bob history of accusations and allegations and me pointing out how stupid and empty they were. Ending with the normal insults about me being an alt and being biased against goons (like its actually news after 2 years or about 6 pages ffs). At least we both came to a conclusion about something though. We did?...feck thats a first i hope i don't get another ban for it.



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