I'm pretty sure we all know that Tanya Powers won't be satisfied with Gallente until they're the best at everything.

-Liang

well the way you use the numbers is fallacy.

Actually those statistics are misleading. Suppose you have a 10v10, where everyone is in Drakes, and everyone but 1 guy dies (Go go hero Drake!). Assuming that everyone knows how to follow primary (hahahahahaha):
- Drake 1: 10 drakes on it
- Drake 2: 10 drakes on it
- Drake 3: 9 drakes
- Drake 4: 9 drakes
...

So in the end we see 110 Drakes on your list for only 20 combatants. Obviously this is unreasonable.

-Liang

It doesn't apply equally to all ship types though - since some ship types are good at blob engagements and others aren't. Ships that engage in blob warfare are:
A) going to legitimately get more kills
B) going to be even more over represented by nature of the multiplicative effect outlined above.

Frankly, I think the problem is that you want Gallente to be the best small gang as well as the best blob warfare ships. Just not gonna happen, and thats ok.

-Liang

You really are a dumb republican aren't you?

-Liang

I'm sorry, I was simply returning the insult you offered to the rest of us: that we're simply "dumb republicans". If you feel that's over the top for insulting, maybe you should look a little closer to home eh? Also, if you're so sick of fighting the same "damn fleet comps" maybe you should consider flying in a different meta? Out here in low sec its a toss up for what you're gonna face on any given day. :)



The simple fact of the matter is that changing Gallente such that they're good at fleets would make them the obvious choice for all PVP. Seriously, they're that dominant at small gang PVP these days.



That's not as true as you'd really think. In a great many ways, the game has been designed around Gallente = Blasters+Drones and Caldari = Missiles+Rails.

-Liang

No, I meant where most of the PVP doesn't happen. There's only one meta where Gallente has any problem at all - massive fleets.

-Liang

That's not shifting goalposts because the second statement in no way contradicts the first. I'd argue its more of me saying the same thing in a dozen different ways so that nullbrains might figure out that they're being dinosaurs.

I think you might be arguing that the reason that only massive fleets matter in 0.0 is because they are the primary determiner of Sov - and to a point you're right. However, you're only right to a point. The problem with your thinking is as follows:
- Gallente works fine in small gang PVP - which is where the majority of the PVP in the game happens. Even in 0.0, the majority of the PVP is smaller gang PVP. Thus, Gallente actually work fine in the OVERWHELMING majority of the PVP situations in the game.
- NPC 0.0 doesn't have to worry about your lousy sov.
- 0.0 goes months (sometimes years it seems) without major brouhahas. Your "massive fleets" barely even exist then.

However, addressing the fact that Gallente (really, blasters) don't work so well in massive fleets: Yes, its true. And really it makes sense to have a place where they are both strong and another where they are weak. It gives everyone somewhere to fly and win. In other words: Hyperions and Megathrons don't really do the same kinds of things that Abaddons and Rokhs do. And thats ok - because that door swings both ways.

-Liang

No, they scale differently. Nothing else really scales down as well as Gallente does.

-Liang

Yes, ships get slow when you insist on quad plating and triple trimarking them. Stop that and you'll stop feeling like Gallente is slow. Although I do find it funny that you argue so hard that Gallente sucks against people that fly Gallente when you plainly don't actually fly Gallente...

-Liang

Huh, what corp is that? ;-)

-Liang