| Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
3rdD Dave
Deadly Addiction
Un-Natural Selection
   |
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:09:00 -
[1]
Eurogamer.net is in the process of re-reviewing popular MMOs. World of Warcraft is first, and scored 10/10. This doesn't mean its perfect, nor will EG say this. It means it hits all the right criteria to make the game enjoyable on all accounts has been reached [ read subjective ]
 Quote:
WOW might have made Blizzard stupendously rich and powerful, but it hasn't made it complacent. Its maintenance of the game goes far beyond tinkering under the hood and bolting on new features. Its drive to improve every aspect of the game experience is tireless.
Granted Blizzard are giants in respect to CCP, but lets face it, CCP are no slouches either. I wonder what Eve will score as Eurogamer are known to be quite tough reviewers.
|
3rdD Dave
Deadly Addiction
Un-Natural Selection
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:09:00 -
[2]
Eurogamer.net is in the process of re-reviewing popular MMOs. World of Warcraft is first, and scored 10/10. This doesn't mean its perfect, nor will EG say this. It means it hits all the right criteria to make the game enjoyable on all accounts has been reached [ read subjective ]
Quote:
WOW might have made Blizzard stupendously rich and powerful, but it hasn't made it complacent. Its maintenance of the game goes far beyond tinkering under the hood and bolting on new features. Its drive to improve every aspect of the game experience is tireless.
Granted Blizzard are giants in respect to CCP, but lets face it, CCP are no slouches either. I wonder what Eve will score as Eurogamer are known to be quite tough reviewers.
|
Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:10:00 -
[3]
Edited by: Ikasu on 18/03/2008 20:10:27
Originally by: 3rdD Dave
Eurogamer.net is in the process of re-reviewing popular MMOs. World of Warcraft is first, and scored 10/10. This doesn't mean its perfect, nor will EG say this. It means it hits all the right criteria to make the game enjoyable on all accounts has been reached [ read subjective ]
Quote:
WOW might have made Blizzard stupendously rich and powerful, but it hasn't made it complacent. Its maintenance of the game goes far beyond tinkering under the hood and bolting on new features. Its drive to improve every aspect of the game experience is tireless.
Granted Blizzard are giants in respect to CCP, but lets face it, CCP are no slouches either. I wonder what Eve will score as Eurogamer are known to be quite tough reviewers.
People like WoW because it's simple, or more specifically is copies every other MMO out there that has reached some level of fame and made it mainstream. There is NOTHING original in WoW really, but Blizzard had the money to push and Advertise it. The fame of WoW comes only from their ability to hit key advertising points that CCP can't do.
/rant
--------------------------------------------------
|
Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:10:00 -
[4]
Edited by: Ikasu on 18/03/2008 20:10:27
Originally by: 3rdD Dave
Eurogamer.net is in the process of re-reviewing popular MMOs. World of Warcraft is first, and scored 10/10. This doesn't mean its perfect, nor will EG say this. It means it hits all the right criteria to make the game enjoyable on all accounts has been reached [ read subjective ]
Quote:
WOW might have made Blizzard stupendously rich and powerful, but it hasn't made it complacent. Its maintenance of the game goes far beyond tinkering under the hood and bolting on new features. Its drive to improve every aspect of the game experience is tireless.
Granted Blizzard are giants in respect to CCP, but lets face it, CCP are no slouches either. I wonder what Eve will score as Eurogamer are known to be quite tough reviewers.
People like WoW because it's simple, or more specifically is copies every other MMO out there that has reached some level of fame and made it mainstream. There is NOTHING original in WoW really, but Blizzard had the money to push and Advertise it. The fame of WoW comes only from their ability to hit key advertising points that CCP can't do.
/rant
--------------------------------------------------
|
3rdD Dave
Deadly Addiction
Un-Natural Selection
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:11:00 -
[5]
So your saying theres no depth to WOW at all?
|
3rdD Dave
Deadly Addiction
Un-Natural Selection
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:11:00 -
[6]
So your saying theres no depth to WOW at all?
|
Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:14:00 -
[7]
Originally by: 3rdD Dave
So your saying theres no depth to WOW at all?
There might be some, but most of the gameplay concepts are tireed and done repeaditly. I've been an MMO beta tester for quite awhile and it's hard to find much originiality in WoW. Hell, that's the reason I don't like it much. It's just another Fantasy Medieval rpg based on grinds and levels. Asda Story, a game hardly anybody ever knows about, has more depth then WoW in the deep story, constant quests, and the Soulmate system which allows you to permanently link with another player fore special spells and bonuses.
--------------------------------------------------
|
Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:14:00 -
[8]
Originally by: 3rdD Dave
So your saying theres no depth to WOW at all?
There might be some, but most of the gameplay concepts are tireed and done repeaditly. I've been an MMO beta tester for quite awhile and it's hard to find much originiality in WoW. Hell, that's the reason I don't like it much. It's just another Fantasy Medieval rpg based on grinds and levels. Asda Story, a game hardly anybody ever knows about, has more depth then WoW in the deep story, constant quests, and the Soulmate system which allows you to permanently link with another player fore special spells and bonuses.
--------------------------------------------------
|
Dictum Factum
Gemini Sun
Tenth Legion
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:15:00 -
[9]
If by "depth" you mean "grind", then yes. WoW has depth in spades.
I know less than you think I do. |
Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:15:00 -
[10]
Edited by: Tarminic on 18/03/2008 20:15:30
In other News: Alcoholics give Alcohol a ten out of ten!
----------------
Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare
Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79.2 |
Mioelnir
KULT Production
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:15:00 -
[11]
Originally by: 3rdD Dave
So your saying theres no depth to WOW at all?
I think they have 24bit colour + 8bit alpha.
|
Dictum Factum
Gemini Sun
Tenth Legion
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:15:00 -
[12]
If by "depth" you mean "grind", then yes. WoW has depth in spades.
I know less than you think I do. |
Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:15:00 -
[13]
Edited by: Tarminic on 18/03/2008 20:15:30
In other News: Alcoholics give Alcohol a ten out of ten!
----------------
Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare
Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79.2 |
Mioelnir
KULT Production
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:15:00 -
[14]
Originally by: 3rdD Dave
So your saying theres no depth to WOW at all?
I think they have 24bit colour + 8bit alpha.
|
Sulora
Viziam
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:17:00 -
[15]
Originally by: 3rdD Dave
So your saying theres no depth to WOW at all?
Played wow for a year and a half, and other mmo's for at least a year (e.g. Ever***** *cough* erm EverQuest, Lotro, Vnagaurd, ect.. and soon to be Warhammer) having played quite a few mmo's for at least a year's time, I can safely say that WoW has virtually no depth to it... at all what-so-ever. It's all run-and-gun type of game. Then again, I was on a pvp server so.. that may have been a factor.
---------------------------------------------
Est Sularus Oth Mithas
|
Marcus TheMartin
Deadly Addiction
Un-Natural Selection
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:18:00 -
[16]
Dave I'll pod you for this EVE vs WOW post
interceptors at dawn!
|
Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:18:00 -
[17]
Eve is the easy mode of MMOs. It gets nothing right but publicity.
/thread.
--------------------------------------------------
|
jongalt
State War Academy
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:20:00 -
[18]
originality does not guarantee "success".
if that were true, we'd see less formulaic 3-act structure movies like spider-man or 300. instead, jim jarmusch and peter greenaway would be "kings of the world".
i suggest reading theodore adorno's "the schema of mass culture" in his book "the culture industry" if you want some insight as to why wow outpaces eve in every respect.
-jg.
|
Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:23:00 -
[19]
Originally by: jongalt
originality does not guarantee "success".
if that were true, we'd see less formulaic 3-act structure movies like spider-man or 300. instead, jim jarmusch and peter greenaway would be "kings of the world".
i suggest reading theodore adorno's "the schema of mass culture" in his book "the culture industry" if you want some insight as to why wow outpaces eve in every respect.
-jg.
I'll state it again. WoW has something called advertising money. They have commercials, sponsorships, hell if you go to an internet caffee you find PAMPHLETS. They grab the attention of the majority and, since for many it's their first MMO, they fall in love for it. Their beautiful advertisers, but their game is mediocre. Plus, a lot of gamers can't handle the harsh reality of Eve.
--------------------------------------------------
|
3rdD Dave
Deadly Addiction
Un-Natural Selection
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:24:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Dave I'll pod you for this EVE vs WOW post
interceptors at dawn!
er just asking.. my kids play it upstairs tbh and i dont get it... as a game. But i do question how they got 10 mill subs. Something is right.
|
Sulora
Viziam
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:24:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Ikasu
Eve is the easy mode of MMOs. It gets nothing right but publicity.
/thread.
Eve is the easy mode? Sure it may seem easy now that we've been playing it for a few years... but what about to the little noob that just fired up the character creation a few days ago? I remember, back in the day  , when I started that learning to play EvE was like climbing a cliff using just your arms. Yes, they've made it easier, most likely in the hopes to keep newb's playing longer or giving the game "one last chance," but EvE is far from easy... starting off. After that you come to the realization that you'll never be a better skilled pilot than a majority of the player base, but keep on truckin' anyway.
---------------------------------------------
Est Sularus Oth Mithas
|
jongalt
State War Academy
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:25:00 -
[22]
ikasu, im not disagreeing with you. but there is more to it than "buying success" through marketing. read the aforementioned essay online somewhere; you will see. wow does things eve does not. those things are addressed in the essay.
-jg.
|
Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:26:00 -
[23]
Originally by: 3rdD Dave
er just asking.. my kids play it upstairs tbh and i dont get it... as a game. But i do question how they got 10 mill subs. Something is right.
It's right in the same way cigarette manufacturers have got it right. WoW's infinite grind is addictive, but not much else.
----------------
Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare
Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79.2 |
Nicho Void
Hyper-Nova
Tenth Legion
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:26:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Tarminic
Edited by: Tarminic on 18/03/2008 20:15:30
In other News: Alcoholics give Alcohol a ten out of ten!
This.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We won't laugh at you... to your face...
|
Ikasu
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:28:00 -
[25]
Edited by: Ikasu on 18/03/2008 20:28:54
Originally by: Sulora
Originally by: Ikasu
Eve is the easy mode of MMOs. It gets nothing right but publicity.
/thread.
Eve is the easy mode? Sure it may seem easy now that we've been playing it for a few years... but what about to the little noob that just fired up the character creation a few days ago? I remember, back in the day , when I started that learning to play EvE was like climbing a cliff using just your arms. Yes, they've made it easier, most likely in the hopes to keep newb's playing longer or giving the game "one last chance," but EvE is far from easy... starting off. After that you come to the realization that you'll never be a better skilled pilot than a majority of the player base, but keep on truckin' anyway.
I meant WoW is the easy mode of gaming and, look, my post magically corrected itself. Magic
--------------------------------------------------
|
Mel Gibbson
Imperial Academy
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:31:00 -
[26]
To be frank, I've started playing WoW the first day it came out, this was in 03? Back then there were few servers and raiding instances with guildmates was really really fun (and super funny). The game was well designed (i still think its a very well designed game compared to other mmo's on the market today), the community was good, and at that time it really beat all the other mmo's hands down.
Blizzard is a good company whom have made some damn good games. The only problem with WoW was that it got popular, and the community fell to crap.
Comparing Eve to WoW is really like apples and oranges though. Eve has a high barrier of entry to stupid people, which is good, because at the end of the day, they will all leave.
I'm just glad the standard of MMO's are being raised by such good companies. Beats the hell out of games like lineage2.
Hopefully 5-10 years from now Eve will evolve to something even greater. I like the direction they're taking with Ambulation. Opens up a whole new slew of things to play with (fleet op command from stations, poker, luxury liners, planetary warfare, etc)
Now if only they would fix the damn $#%^#$% lag.
|
Caledric
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:34:00 -
[27]
Allow me to let you in on a little industry secret... the people who review the game... don't actually play the game at the top levels. Their reviews are based on "other" things.
EVE Vault Site Manager.
Visit the EVE Vault Fansite |
Furious Hawk
I-Omniscient-I
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:40:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Ikasu
There is NOTHING original in WoW really, but Blizzard had the money to push and Advertise it.
Halo is much the same way. The games aren't groundbreaking or anything really new, but it was just all done so well and Bungie marketed it properly.
|
Adonis 4174
White Wolf Enterprises
Harmonious Ascent
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:46:00 -
[29]
WoW is successful off the back of the name Warcraft. If it didn't have the name it would be mediocre at best.
----
Exploding underpants: The real weapon of last resort. |
Riho
Mercenary Forces
|
Posted - 2008.03.18 20:46:00 -
[30]
Originally by: 3rdD Dave
Eurogamer.net is in the process of re-reviewing popular MMOs. World of Warcraft is first, and scored 10/10. This doesn't mean its perfect, nor will EG say this. It means it hits all the right criteria to make the game enjoyable on all accounts has been reached [ read subjective ]
Quote:
WOW might have made Blizzard stupendously rich and powerful, but it hasn't made it complacent. Its maintenance of the game goes far beyond tinkering under the hood and bolting on new features. Its drive to improve every aspect of the game experience is tireless.
Granted Blizzard are giants in respect to CCP, but lets face it, CCP are no slouches either. I wonder what Eve will score as Eurogamer are known to be quite tough reviewers.
probably low... because the average american redneck cant comprehend eve...
eve is too complex to get 10 points out of 10 from them
----------------------------------
This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time.
PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |