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Arthur Frayn
Veterans Of Liberation Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.03.24 20:17:00 -
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Or you could try putting shield hardeners and shield rigs on your hulk so it can tank the rats all by itself.
-- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes. |

Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.03.24 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn Or you could try putting shield hardeners and shield rigs on your hulk so it can tank the rats all by itself.
But he said he doesn't have the l33t skillz for that yet.
I also find it funny he was doing this is a system that had war targets in it.
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FalconsFury
Hammer Of Light Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.24 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Arthur Frayn Or you could try putting shield hardeners and shield rigs on your hulk so it can tank the rats all by itself.
But he said he doesn't have the l33t skillz for that yet.
I also find it funny he was doing this is a system that had war targets in it.
there werent any war targets in the system at the time...
that being said, Vale has been under constant attack from MC then TRI
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Gimpb
Sturmgrenadier Inc Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.03.24 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: ARX NG hmm, a few days ago the rats switched targets from me to my drones O.o
Yeah, still getting used to this change, have lost quite a few drones in the last week by not paying attention. :(
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Khanid Kutie
I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: FalconsFury
Originally by: Khanid Kutie
....pay attention and you wont lose your ship? This is CCP's way of telling the miners "STOP AFKING, WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO AFK MINE"
And whats CCP's way of stopping Macro Miners? making 1.0 space rat free AND full of tons and tons of TRIT?
are you dumb to what goons are doing in high sec? So because you want to mine with no problems in 0.0 space, CCP must change the rats for you?
pay attention, instead of doing homework or jerking off while you mine. ____________________________________________
Originally by: Thargat They should change the name of CAOD to EvE Zoo. Please to not feed the animals.
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Scruffy Jed
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:03:00 -
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Your hulk deserved to die. Are you going to quit too, now?
Furthermore, |

SiJira
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:06:00 -
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0.0 carebears   Trashed sig, Shark was here |

Auron Shadowbane
Pelennor Swarm Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:22:00 -
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rats have been unstable since i went to 0.0 which was 2 years ago...
best way to "tank" a belt is to bring 1 carrier/logistics ship to be on watch and shield transfer the hulks if **** goes rough.
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Twin blade
The Triangle Exa Nation
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:33:00 -
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OMG i am not safe in 0.0 when not looking at the screen CCP save me i lost a hulk for been lazy.
It could of been a player and lost both ships just be happy you only lost a Hulk could of lost both and the pod's next time you will watch the screen. Death is great rember where all dying to get there. |

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.24 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: FalconsFury I just got into a Hulk for my 2nd account and was mining in 0.0.
To teh locator agents!!!
Wait, you are in Hydra. Well then we all know where you live and are all not suprised. Maybe your alliance should train you before just letting you into 0.0 when you obviously have no clue how to play this game.
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Declan Intaki
JOMON Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.24 22:06:00 -
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I am absolutely shocked that you petitioned this!! 
No wonder the rest of us have to wait weeks for legitimate lost ship petitions to be processed.... 
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III LightBringer
Okkelen Grave Robbers
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Posted - 2008.03.24 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: FalconsFury I just got into a Hulk for my 2nd account and was mining in 0.0.
I had 1st brought in my Dominix and was tanking the belt successfully for hours, then all of a sudden the same rats ( same ships and same types ) just start attacking the Hulk out of no where.
Is this some sort of glitch??
No. This is not a glitch
It is actually quite normal. Rare, but normal. And to petition it? Holy ****. You really did get what you deserved. A dead hulk.
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krenshala
Radikus Industries The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.03.24 22:52:00 -
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It is not a glitch, it is AI decision making.
"Hmmm ... that player hasn't hurt my fleet, and is hard to kill. I'll come back to him after I've popped his gun toting friends that are more squishy!"
This happened to me in a few level 4 missions recently. I wasn't shooting at the rats (combat salvage for the fun!) so, eventually, they stopped shooting at me to go after the "armed" guys in the fleet.
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Arthur Frayn
Veterans Of Liberation Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.03.24 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: FalconsFury
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Arthur Frayn Or you could try putting shield hardeners and shield rigs on your hulk so it can tank the rats all by itself.
But he said he doesn't have the l33t skillz for that yet.
I also find it funny he was doing this is a system that had war targets in it.
there werent any war targets in the system at the time...
I'm still not surprised you lost your Hulk. No offense intended, but I've flown alongside Hydra before and my opinion is that you guys couldn't organise a pi$$-up in a brewery without screwing it up.
-- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes. |

Tippia
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.24 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn ...you guys couldn't organise a pi$$-up in a brewery without screwing it up.
On the other hand, isn't that kind of the point of having a pi$$-up? 
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Arthur Frayn
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Posted - 2008.03.24 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Arthur Frayn ...you guys couldn't organise a pi$$-up in a brewery without screwing it up.
On the other hand, isn't that kind of the point of having a pi$$-up? 
That's my point. They'd try, but they'd end up eating raw hops instead and start vomiting everywhere.
-- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes. |

Tippia
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Posted - 2008.03.24 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn That's my point. They'd try, but they'd end up eating raw hops instead and start vomiting everywhere.
Weeell... the results would be much the same - only the way of getting there would differ.
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Arthur Frayn
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Posted - 2008.03.24 23:06:00 -
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I don't mean to be a total jerk about it, but setting up an alt to fly a hulk with no tanking skills in 0.0 is a recipe for fail with extra ffs on the side.
-- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes. |

cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.25 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: cal nereus on 25/03/2008 10:58:32
Using a single ship like a Dominix as a tank in a belt so that mining barges and exhumers can mine at their leisure is a very common tactic. Simple, easy, just requires one character being in a tanky ship at the belt and getting all the rats to aggro it. In this case, keeping the rats alive is supposed to be smarter than killing them.
However, with rats switching targets, the tank's role needs to adapt. Instead of just acting as the designated tank to take damage, it must also consider other options for keeping a mining ship alive until it warps out, then wait for aggro to shift back to the designated tank. A tanked Hulk can handle most spawns, even in 0.0, but sometimes something happens, and something explodes. ---
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Anita Pakonen
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.25 11:46:00 -
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Rats have been randomly changing targets for some time already.
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.03.25 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Declan Intaki I am absolutely shocked that you petitioned this!! 
No wonder the rest of us have to wait weeks for legitimate lost ship petitions to be processed.... 
Yeah damn straight.  
Originally by: Turin
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Op... you fail. CCP has stated that rats are going to start switching targets already.
Please show me the blog or dev post that stats this?
I remember hearing about this somewhere too. I think it was around the last patch. No link sorry. Try the tourny links, might be in there.
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place? Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag |

Carinus
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.25 13:16:00 -
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Imagine if all rats had the AI of the ones in level 4 Worlds Collide. I think that's where pirate factions send their mentally challenged pilots. The AI is so bad in fact it makes the mission HARDER rofl!
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