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Nina Roncheli Republic University	Posted - 2008.03.26 11:54:00 - [1] Add 1 med slot and 1 low slot more
Grytok moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2008.03.26 11:55:00 - [2] lol? next... 1st. .
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.26 11:59:00 - [3] lol harbinger is probably one of the best pvp bc. Last time I killed 1 Drake and 1 Myrmidon in it. I Frapsed it if you want to see how to fit it properly now go away troll
Gladiator Jonny Mothers Against Video Game Violence	Posted - 2008.03.26 12:09:00 - [4] Hidden racist comment in the thread title or newb spelling mistake. Your call
Phoenicia Black Sea Industries Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.26 12:21:00 - [5] Originally by: Cpt Cosmic lol harbinger is probably one of the best pvp bc. Last time I killed 1 Drake and 1 Myrmidon in it. I Frapsed it if you want to see how to fit it properly now go away troll I HATE YOU!!!!
Riho Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.03.26 12:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Cpt Cosmic lol harbinger is probably one of the best pvp bc. Last time I killed 1 Drake and 1 Myrmidon in it. I Frapsed it if you want to see how to fit it properly now go away troll damn... i clicked it........... i dont like you to the op.... just LOL ---------------------------------- MY VIEW ARE MY OWN, I DON'T REPRESENT MY CORPORATIONS VIEWS HERE... stop mailing me.. plz
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.03.26 12:53:00 - [7] Bastard. I knew I shouldn't have clicked it. It just felt wrong! Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Commander Thrawn Fluffy Rabbit Killers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.26 13:22:00 - [8] lol
Niffetin Omni Research	Posted - 2008.03.26 13:28:00 - [9] Yea boost my Harbinger, it sucks --- Teeheee! mematar's Video Archive
Twin blade The Triangle Exa Nation	Posted - 2008.03.26 14:03:00 - [10] Boost it any more you might as well give it a DDD and a jump portal. Death is great rember where all dying to get there.

Andreask14 Raptus Regaliter Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.26 14:17:00 - [11] Well, if you get a geddon you get more dps, range and tank at the price of a little more ISK. I dunno why everybody is so fond of BCs lately. Sig offline
Trevor Warps Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.26 14:19:00 - [12] Ma shipz needz 10 turret slotz so a can pown moar pwease !
Lyria Skydancer Home 0f Bored Occultists	Posted - 2008.03.26 14:20:00 - [13] Originally by: Andreask14 Well, if you get a geddon you get more dps, range and tank at the price of a little more ISK. I dunno why everybody is so fond of BCs lately. Maybe because it takes ages to train T2 large? -------------------------------------- [Video]Skirmish Warfare II
Veng3ance Multiversal Enterprise Inc. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.03.26 15:08:00 - [14] Right....... Harbinger is hands down the best BC. You read it here first
Sojiuro Boennerup Banden Boner Bandits	Posted - 2008.03.27 08:03:00 - [15] lol @ u harby is the best bc easily with buffer armor tank and all close range lazers u get far more dps then ne other bc and a good tank. If there is one bc that needs a buff its the cyclone/prophecy ur whack <('.'<) <( '.' )> (>'.')> Who said Rohk's suck!?
Liang Nuren Black Sea Industries Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.27 08:35:00 - [16] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 27/03/2008 08:35:22 Originally by: Nina Roncheli Add 1 med slot and 1 low slot more Yes, harbniger needs a boost... =) -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance.
Disco Flint The Flaming Sideburn's Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2008.03.27 08:47:00 - [17] The Harbinger is totally awesome as it is. Any boost now will result in a hefty nerfbat swing later. Or, seeing as what CCP sees as 'boost' currently, we might receive a 3 laser / 3 launcher Harbinger with -1 low +1 mid... no thanks.
Liang Nuren Black Sea Industries Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.27 08:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Disco Flint The Harbinger is totally awesome as it is. Any boost now will result in a hefty nerfbat swing later. Or, seeing as what CCP sees as 'boost' currently, we might receive a 3 laser / 3 launcher Harbinger with -1 low +1 mid... no thanks. -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance.
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.03.27 08:59:00 - [19] The Harbinger is a fine ship in itself, but I'm not so sure it's quite to the same level than the other three tier2 BC. The Drake with HAM can do quite a bit of DPS, with a very decent passive tank doing a decent HP buffer, no cap used by weapons and 100% damage type polyvalence. The Myrmidon can outdps the harbinger while still having a slightly better tank. The Hurricane can have a scary number of armor HP with a AC+plated fit. ------------------------------------------
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2008.03.27 10:53:00 - [20] OP's racist.

Gneeznow SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.03.27 10:56:00 - [21] Harb is fine doesnt need to be messed with at all.
Daqinson The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 14:42:00 - [22] The Harbringer is fine. I think the boost you need is in your skills, bcause the 1 low for a tank is not needed, as the tank in this is awesome (I can tank 3 1.25mil bounty BS Rats and can give most HAC's a run for their money). The Mid slot, what else do you need? Yes, you can always use an extra mid slot for something, but if fitted right you have very little PWRGRID or CPU left for anything else that can be of real use. so in other words... Boost your skills, and you will be fine. ---------------- Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected]. Sig locked please mail with a link to a sig that complies with the forum rules - Mitnal
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:24:00 - [23] I think the Harbniger is fine personally but if it gets boosted more, great. 100k EHP ftw.
Liang Nuren Black Sea Industries Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:28:00 - [24] Originally by: Kruel I think the Harbniger is fine personally but if it gets boosted more, great. 100k EHP ftw. I think the Harbniger needs boosted as: - 1 low, +10m^3 drone bay +1 turret, -25 CPU - damage bonus, +cap amount bonus It seems to be how CCP boosts recently (see abortive Deimos "boost"). -Liang -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance.
EglantinFinfleur Cyrano Technologies Blue Sun Trust	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:31:00 - [25] Edited by: EglantinFinfleur on 27/03/2008 17:32:55 Harbrnigners?
EpicFailTroll Hedion University	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:32:00 - [26] Harblnigers hardly need any boost. I'm already sick and tired of seing guys like Lexington Steele putting the white wimmenz into structure.
Jennifer Flate theFragment The Threshold	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:34:00 - [27] Why do people make so many typos, it hurts me to the extent of mass murder... Harbinger - 'I' before 'N', DEFINITELY no 'L's involved at all -_-. I have no idea how it works or actually ever seen one, so i couldn't give a crap to what CCP do to it as long as it's spelled correctly :).
Julius Romanus Fatalix Inc. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:36:00 - [28] Afterburners need a boost. Viable pvp w/ burner takes the harb from great bc, to greatest bc. ------------------ For Medicinal Use Only.
Nomakai Delateriel Viziam	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Shadowsword The Myrmidon can outdps the harbinger while still having a slightly better tank. Are you sure your taking the DPS decrease from falloff into account? ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Rialtor Yarrrateers	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:48:00 - [30] Originally by: Julius Romanus Afterburners need a boost. Viable pvp w/ burner takes the harb from great bc, to greatest bc. They should give ABs some web resistance, so that it could maintain better speed inside webrange than an mwd. ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.

P'uck Ravenclaw Manufacturing DeStInY.	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:27:00 - [31] Edited by: P''uck on 27/03/2008 18:27:07 id like to say a bit more than the usual "lol op wtf" proposed changes would make the ship what? 8/5/7? errm lolwut? (and i havent even talked about how hot the harbi is right now) if that ever went through, i would consider training amarr frig to 1 right now. but then again i wouldnt do it, because it would be nerfed back to oblivion before im able to train amarr cruiser 1. also, i cant believe i used my time to reply to that thread. you just cannot be serious, also your reasoning... is... kind of lacking, at best. to sum it up: "lol op wtf"
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:32:00 - [32] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Originally by: Shadowsword The Myrmidon can outdps the harbinger while still having a slightly better tank. Are you sure your taking the DPS decrease from falloff into account? No, but then, when both ships are webbed, generally with the inertia you still get quite close to the enemy ship. But if you want to take more parameters into account, fine. Then add the efficiency decrease of both ships when tracking disrupted, or when jammed, or damped, and things like that... (and no, drones being vulnerables isn't really an argument, because no one target them except in theorycraft, that would be too much dps that isn't used on pounding the enemy) ------------------------------------------
Intravenous deMilo Vogon Reconstruction Fleet The OSS	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:33:00 - [33] Edited by: Intravenous deMilo on 27/03/2008 21:34:41 Harbcr*cker? Edit for rediculous word filtering.
Julius Romanus Fatalix Inc. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:04:00 - [34] Originally by: Rialtor Originally by: Julius Romanus Afterburners need a boost. Viable pvp w/ burner takes the harb from great bc, to greatest bc. They should give ABs some web resistance, so that it could maintain better speed inside webrange than an mwd. Was my thought as well. ------------------ For Medicinal Use Only.
Rawr Cristina Naqam	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:14:00 - [35] Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 28/03/2008 02:14:20 Harbinger is best T2 BC there is imo (except for the Drake ) It dosen't need nerfing, boosting or messing with in any way. It is quite perfect. ...
Julius Romanus Fatalix Inc. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:17:00 - [36] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 28/03/2008 02:14:20 Harbinger is best T2 BC there is imo (except for the Drake ) It dosen't need nerfing, boosting or messing with in any way. It is quite perfect. It's almost perfect. W/ mwd its hard to fit heavy pulses and a 1600mm plate on a single pg rig. With a burner it fits perfectly. ------------------ For Medicinal Use Only.
Rawr Cristina Naqam	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:34:00 - [37] Originally by: Julius Romanus W/ mwd its hard to fit heavy pulses and a 1600mm plate on a single pg rig. With a burner it fits perfectly. I can't fit MWD, HAMs and Dual Extenders on my Drake without at least 2 fitting mods either. Also you're fitting a battleship-sized mod onto a BC, so you're going to have fitting issues regardless. ...
Terianna Eri FMP Corp	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:56:00 - [38] no that's not good enough herblingjler needs +300 PG, +1 turret, and +1 med and +2 lows and +100m3 drone bay and +75mb/s bandwidth also the damage bonus needs to be upped to +15%/level and the cap bonus to -20%/level __________________________________
Julius Romanus Fatalix Inc. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:05:00 - [39] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Originally by: Julius Romanus W/ mwd its hard to fit heavy pulses and a 1600mm plate on a single pg rig. With a burner it fits perfectly. I can't fit MWD, HAMs and Dual Extenders on my Drake without at least 2 fitting mods either. Also you're fitting a battleship-sized mod onto a BC, so you're going to have fitting issues regardless. You dont need to tell me things I dont already know Rawr. I never said it shouldnt be difficult. I said the ship would be perfect. ------------------ For Medicinal Use Only.
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Spaceways Nex Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:08:00 - [40] Originally by: Terianna Eri no that's not good enough herblingjler needs +300 PG, +1 turret, and +1 med and +2 lows and +100m3 drone bay and +75mb/s bandwidth also the damage bonus needs to be upped to +15%/level and the cap bonus to -20%/level And can I get it in multiple colors? I'd like mine black, with air conditioning and power steering.

Terianna Eri FMP Corp	Posted - 2008.03.28 04:03:00 - [41] Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Originally by: Terianna Eri no that's not good enough herblingjler needs +300 PG, +1 turret, and +1 med and +2 lows and +100m3 drone bay and +75mb/s bandwidth also the damage bonus needs to be upped to +15%/level and the cap bonus to -20%/level And can I get it in multiple colors? I'd like mine black, with air conditioning and power steering. CCP Buff harbinger! give us leather interiors or i'm cancelling my 203 accounts __________________________________
Rawr Cristina Naqam	Posted - 2008.03.28 04:18:00 - [42] Originally by: Julius Romanus You dont need to tell me things I dont already know Rawr. I never said it shouldnt be difficult to fit all those things. I said the ship would be perfect. k I was just saying ...
Julius Romanus Fatalix Inc. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 06:02:00 - [43] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Originally by: Julius Romanus You dont need to tell me things I dont already know Rawr. I never said it shouldnt be difficult to fit all those things. I said the ship would be perfect. k I was just saying No harshness intended. Been a long day and thought words were being put into my mouth is all. ------------------ For Medicinal Use Only.
Rogerano Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:19:00 - [44] You guys have been smoking pure fail. An unfitted binger is teh sheetzest BC out there. I don't think even adding +1 slots is going to save it. What it needs is pure win. --- Not happy with something in EVE? An emo whine will doubtless help your cause.
arbalesttom Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:23:00 - [45] Originally by: Rogerano You guys have been smoking pure fail. An unfitted binger is teh sheetzest BC out there. I don't think even adding +1 slots is going to save it. What it needs is pure win. Its not even a rick roll this time *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners. If real men fly amarr, what does a nbermensch fly then? ---> Gallente ^(>_<)^
Liam Fremen Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:31:00 - [46] Harbinger is a very nice pvp ship and even pve, what's the problem with it :) good fitting, cheap, fit well and easy, not so hard to use, good dronebay, what u want more? :) _________________________________________________
Nina Roncheli Republic University	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:35:00 - [47] Originally by: Liam Fremen Harbinger is a very nice pvp ship and even pve, what's the problem with it :) good fitting, cheap, fit well and easy, not so hard to use, good dronebay, what u want more? :) I agree with u at some point. But i think it need 1 more med slot tbh
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:45:00 - [48] the only thing that needs more slots/cpu/pgrid is the peoples brain who cannot use this ship properly
Sean Faust Point of No Return	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:35:00 - [49] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 28/03/2008 02:14:20 Harbinger is best T2 BC there is imo (except for the Drake ) It dosen't need nerfing, boosting or messing with in any way. It is quite perfect. Well, I WOULD like to see that stupid amarr "laser cap use" bonus dropped in favor of an ACTUAL bonus, as well as on other amarr ships, but then they'd have to fix lasers, and that just makes too much sense for them to ever do it. The whole laser cap use penalty/bonus was put into place a long time ago to prevent other races' ships (specifically the ferox and dominix, from what i understand) from fitting them back when their damage was ridiculous compared to all other turrets in the game. Since that's no longer true, there's no more reason for lasers to be as ridiculous on cap as they are.


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