Originally by: Darth Sith

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There is no naps of any kind :)

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Originally by: El Muchacha

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pointless thread. The only tortugans worth mentioning were 0utbreak and Evoke and their not even tortugans anymore. MC realized that Evoke and 0utbreak had access to the most profitable moons in period basis. Thus MC kicked 0utbreak and Evoke out and replaced them with The Coven. Thus losing a major supercap/cap fleet and also some of the best pvpers in eve. Big mistake.

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Originally by: El Muchacha

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just stating the facts. Evoke and 0utbreak are NO LONGER tortugans. They were kicked out.

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Originally by: Tholarim

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Originally by: Omeega

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lucky me i have my "tholarim ♥ you" card, allowing me to join DICE !

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i only recruit fc's that never wanna fc anymore. You fall into this category?

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Originally by: El Muchacha

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just stating the facts. Evoke and 0utbreak are NO LONGER tortugans. They were kicked out.

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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As of 11.59 on 26 March All Tortugan Entities will perform a full Standings reset, the only Blues will be Fellow Tortugan Entities.

Safe flight all.

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Originally by: Darth Sith

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There is no naps of any kind :)

Executives from the 4 member alliances of Tortuga including MC,ODD,KAI and myself from DAI, got together and simply decided it was time for the standings reset. The forum trolls will however read anything they want into it or they would have nothing to do in EVE :P

Tortuga, by design will go forward as an neutral entity. Bob was red by virtue of the fact that we needed to remove them from period basis to secure space to call home. By the same token, the coalition was blue because they were killing Bob at the time and it seemed awefully silly that we kept killing them on thier way to Delve.

Now that the conflict is centered in Delve, and there is a pause in the fighting, it seemed as good a time as any to nuke the standings list and go about the business of securing our claim. Going forward, "blue" standings to a Tortugan entity will only come about as the result of terms of a contract. The blue status will only remain for the duration of the contract and will be only with the member(s) of Tortuga involved with said contract.

I now complete this brief insert of actual information and return you to the steaming pile of troll goo that seems to make up the bulk of COAD posts :)


Darth Sith
Exec, Daisho Syndicate

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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Originally by: Darth Sith

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There is no naps of any kind :)

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So you're not giving c3n to bob then? Or are you giving it to them and getting nothing in return? Are you hoping bob doesn't attack your pos's, or are you just going to take on bob when they come for you? I'm legitimately interested in hearing your answer.

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Originally by: Darth Sith

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There is no naps of any kind :)

Executives from the 4 member alliances of Tortuga including MC,ODD,KAI and myself from DAI, got together and simply decided it was time for the standings reset. The forum trolls will however read anything they want into it or they would have nothing to do in EVE :P

Tortuga, by design will go forward as an neutral entity. Bob was red by virtue of the fact that we needed to remove them from period basis to secure space to call home. By the same token, the coalition was blue because they were killing Bob at the time and it seemed awefully silly that we kept killing them on thier way to Delve.

Now that the conflict is centered in Delve, and there is a pause in the fighting, it seemed as good a time as any to nuke the standings list and go about the business of securing our claim. Going forward, "blue" standings to a Tortugan entity will only come about as the result of terms of a contract. The blue status will only remain for the duration of the contract and will be only with the member(s) of Tortuga involved with said contract.

I now complete this brief insert of actual information and return you to the steaming pile of troll goo that seems to make up the bulk of COAD posts :)


Darth Sith
Exec, Daisho Syndicate

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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth

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Is this kind of like the time Goonfleet gave Stain Empire that Dyspro moon in Esoteria in exchange for a POS-nap that ended up being broken three weeks later anyway?

Because they look very similar.

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Originally by: Scavok

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Edited by: Scavok on 27/03/2008 04:04:50

Originally by: Dungar Loghoth

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Is this kind of like the time Goonfleet gave Stain Empire that Dyspro moon in Esoteria in exchange for a POS-nap that ended up being broken three weeks later anyway?

Because they look very similar.

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Might be a decent analogy if this ever took place. It never went further than me (an FC, not a diplomat while a GS director) talking to SE out of greedy self interest in having a small break from POS warfare while tooling around our new space waiting for sov tickers to go up. Other directors weren't interested, so it never happened and SE eventually took them.

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Originally by: El Muchacha

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If the area came under attack they vowed to return for the defense of the region. What it all came down to was that MC leadership would never engage BOB with a Cap on Cap fight. 0utbreak and Evoke grew tired of the cowardness of the MC fleet commanders. All they wanted was a fight of EPIC porportions. There were times Tortuga had a fleet of well over 200 and a BOB fleet of 150 comes in. MC leadership calls for a warp to the POS and to not engage. This grew old very quickly. Those who were there from either side know exactly what I am talking about.

Weeks went by and TPAR eventually fell. Toxin and Evoke decided to move out to greener pastures while the rest of the Tortugans pushed on to Delve. More and more blues started appearing. This meant less and less targets. So Evoke and 0utbreak go to find some other targets. With the full intention of returning if the area was ever to come under attack.

A couple more weeks went by and things seemed fine. Then moon constellation compositions were released. MC found out exactly what moons were around Evoke/Toxin occupied space. Safe to say they became outraged. Greed set in. Evoke was kicked out and 0utbreak was given the benefit of the doubt. 0utbreak decided to leave due to the mere fact that MC was well overhyped for their pvp prowess(due to decimating weak and incompetent alliances during their northern campaign.) Also 0utbreak wanted to keep their long lasting friendship with Evoke.

Either way you look at this. Tortugans are 1 titan less, several super caps less, and even more capitals less. This will prove to be costly especially when someone attempts to invade the region which can actually field a large capital fleet. Because afterall we all know MC will POS up when that happens. Just ask BOB.

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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth

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Originally by: Scavok

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Edited by: Scavok on 27/03/2008 04:04:50

Originally by: Dungar Loghoth

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Is this kind of like the time Goonfleet gave Stain Empire that Dyspro moon in Esoteria in exchange for a POS-nap that ended up being broken three weeks later anyway?

Because they look very similar.

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Might be a decent analogy if this ever took place. It never went further than me (an FC, not a diplomat while a GS director) talking to SE out of greedy self interest in having a small break from POS warfare while tooling around our new space waiting for sov tickers to go up. Other directors weren't interested, so it never happened and SE eventually took them.

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The way I heard it, you guys didn't want a second front opening with SE in Esoteria and Feythabolis, so you offered them the Dyspro moon if they agreed to advance no further. Since it was hard enough getting gangs up for Delve action, there's no way in hell people would be willing to go to Esoteria to bail out a private moon-mining POS, so you had nothing to lose anyway. Seems like a pretty reasonable story to me.

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Originally by: Don Z0LA

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Originally by: ED 209

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Btw. Do your members know, that you are giving away c3n system back to bob ?

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I wouldn't talk about your deal to have the moon mining you got with bob if I was u.

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i wouldnt`t talk if i didnt had guts to post with main :/

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Originally by: lookatmeiampretty

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LOL, c3n goes to BOB, but KIA still have LWX.. I give it 14 days max before they blue each other, I think that's the only reason KIA is now fighting IAC, and MC are fighting smashkill, cause that way they can avoid fighting someone who's gonna be blue soon, very soon. And I know no one in KIA likes the idea of bluing goons in a first place, so they can't wait to fight them.

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Originally by: Vile rat

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Originally by: lookatmeiampretty

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LOL, c3n goes to BOB, but KIA still have LWX.. I give it 14 days max before they blue each other, I think that's the only reason KIA is now fighting IAC, and MC are fighting smashkill, cause that way they can avoid fighting someone who's gonna be blue soon, very soon. And I know no one in KIA likes the idea of bluing goons in a first place, so they can't wait to fight them.

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Er.. we have a long history of working with KIA. I guess that's why you're posting with your newbie corp alt though. I'd be embarassed too if that's what qualifies as "intelligence".

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