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Queen Killerz
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.30 04:44:00 -
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By now everyone should have experience the lack of payouts in missions for bounties. CCP Really should overlook the bounties and payout for missions, THIS IS CROCK OF ****.
Here where its really hitting the working class people, Who probably are thinking "Buying isk isn't a bad idea" Because NO way are you going to be able to put 80hrs into the game to come out with 80 to 100million in bounties in 12 hr day.
Another huge problem (DROPS) give me a break.
When will this madness stop? 
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.03.30 04:48:00 -
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Indeed. Missionrunners have it really hard right now. They take all that risk whoring missions and for what? A paltry ****ton of standing, ISK and LPs?
My deepest sympathies 
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.03.30 04:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Indeed. Missionrunners have it really hard right now. They take all that risk whoring missions and for what? A paltry ****ton of standing, ISK and LPs?
My deepest sympathies
Apart from a short term ability to get access to agents what use are standings? they are useless and more of a hindrance unless your "rolplaying" by pretending your work for the caldari navy by just running missions.
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Gamesguy
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Posted - 2008.03.30 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Killerz
By now everyone should have experience the lack of payouts in missions for bounties. CCP Really should overlook the bounties and payout for missions, THIS IS CROCK OF ****.
Here where its really hitting the working class people, Who probably are thinking "Buying isk isn't a bad idea" Because NO way are you going to be able to put 80hrs into the game to come out with 80 to 100million in bounties in 12 hr day.
Another huge problem (DROPS) give me a break.
When will this madness stop?
What the hell are you talking about?
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.03.30 04:56:00 -
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Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 30/03/2008 04:58:03
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Apart from a short term ability to get access to agents what use are standings? they are useless and more of a hindrance unless your "rolplaying" by pretending your work for the caldari navy by just running missions.
Better refine, and some other things I can't remember right now.
Lets not also forget that the poor mission runners also get a choice to trade in LPs for ISK (buy **** with LPs -> Sell on market) or use those LPs for dirt cheap faction stuff/implants/etc
Oh and lets not forget there is abso*******lutely 0 risk as long as you're paying attention.
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Daelorn
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Posted - 2008.03.30 04:58:00 -
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Bring back decaying standings \ /
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.03.30 04:58:00 -
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Even if hisec missioning -was- nerfed (which I doubt), it would be a step in the right direction.
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Queen Killerz
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:00:00 -
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mhmm Mission runner or a daily POP-A-ROCK-MINER.
See you forget there are people who enjoy the other side of EVE. The older people who don't have the need "Anxiety & Panic Attacks Symptoms."
Not to be hypocrite I do enjoy fighting but there a lot of my friends who don't play EVE for the same pleasure as me. I don't think they will ever want to enter low-sec or 0.0 or even care too. And nothing you people can do to make them feel they need too.
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Gamesguy
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Killerz
mhmm Mission runner or a daily POP-A-ROCK-MINER.
See you forget there are people who enjoy the other side of EVE. The older people who don't have the need "Anxiety & Panic Attacks Symptoms."
Not to be hypocrite I do enjoy fighting but there a lot of my friends who don't play EVE for the same pleasure as me. I don't think they will ever want to enter low-sec or 0.0 or even care too. And nothing you people can do to make them feel they need too.
You've yet to offer any proof that mission rewards have been nerfed.
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Tellenta
White-Noise
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:10:00 -
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seriously highsec missioning is fine... I use it to correct my standings for certain indiscretions. It's the idiots that make faction fitted ravens thinking its isk well spent that will feel it if there was a isk nerf. seriously, if your battleship cost more than 200 mill tops, 300 mill for caldari due to market, you are doing it WRONG.
but i can do missions faster with faction fittings!! Really? how long will it take to counter the cost of a faction raven and fittings? especially if your the working man you claim to be.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Queen Killerz
mhmm Mission runner or a daily POP-A-ROCK-MINER.
See you forget there are people who enjoy the other side of EVE. The older people who don't have the need "Anxiety & Panic Attacks Symptoms."
Not to be hypocrite I do enjoy fighting but there a lot of my friends who don't play EVE for the same pleasure as me. I don't think they will ever want to enter low-sec or 0.0 or even care too. And nothing you people can do to make them feel they need too.
You've yet to offer any proof that mission rewards have been nerfed.
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Wagstaff
Darkdust Industries Empire
Black Scope Project
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Better refine, and some other things I can't remember right now.
Free datacores. Locator agents. Jump clones if your corp cooperates on either getting 8.0 or not goofing it up.
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Queen Killerz
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:22:00 -
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Are people really that dumb that they cant see truncate has made payout less? that they don't see how there been a decrease in payout in missions? I don't have to prove crap. check wallet dates and look at your mission data mate.
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Kahega Amielden
Legacy Syndicate
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:26:00 -
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Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 30/03/2008 05:28:50
Originally by: Queen Killerz
Are people really that dumb that they cant see truncate has made payout less? that they don't see how there been a decrease in payout in missions? I don't have to prove crap. check wallet dates and look at your mission data mate.
If you are going to whine and ***** on the forums you need to provide the ******* evidence for your claims. If you want anyone to give a **** you need to give them a reason to, because people aren't going to go through the trouble of doing so just because some random person on the forums told them to.
tl; dr: Proof or GTFO
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See you forget there are people who enjoy the other side of EVE. The older people who don't have the need "Anxiety & Panic Attacks Symptoms."
Not to be hypocrite I do enjoy fighting but there a lot of my friends who don't play EVE for the same pleasure as me. I don't think they will ever want to enter low-sec or 0.0 or even care too. And nothing you people can do to make them feel they need too.
Yes, because clearly the only thing to do other than missioning/mining in hisec is to pewpew other players in 0.0/lowsec. Also, you fail miserably for assuming some personal superiority due to your profession in an internets spaceship game (Bolded the part I'm referring to).
Oh, and again, you still haven't any proof that missionrunning is less profitable than before, let alone not feasible as a source of income
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Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
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Apart from a short term ability to get access to agents what use are standings? they are useless and more of a hindrance unless your "rolplaying" by pretending your work for the caldari navy by just running missions.
Better refine, and some other things I can't remember right now.
Lets not also forget that the poor mission runners also get a choice to trade in LPs for ISK (buy **** with LPs -> Sell on market) or use those LPs for dirt cheap faction stuff/implants/etc
Oh and lets not forget there is abso*******lutely 0 risk as long as you're paying attention.
Tax cuts for refining and trading, jump clones, high sec research POS anchoring, and yeah you can make out pretty well selling faction ammo, implants and other misc. LP store crap. Standing is the only reason I do missions at all TBH, I hate running missions.
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Queen Killerz
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tellenta
seriously highsec missioning is fine... I use it to correct my standings for certain indiscretions. It's the idiots that make faction fitted ravens thinking its isk well spent that will feel it if there was a isk nerf. seriously, if your battleship cost more than 200 mill tops, 300 mill for caldari due to market, you are doing it WRONG.
but i can do missions faster with faction fittings!! Really? how long will it take to counter the cost of a faction raven and fittings? especially if your the working man you claim to be.
TBH
Non of your business how we choose to play our game! And your opinion doesn't count for anything either..
And who the hell do you think you are anyways?
This is just smack talk!
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Kahega Amielden
Legacy Syndicate
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 30/03/2008 05:30:57
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Non of your business how we choose to play our game! And your opinion doesn't count for anything either..
And yet no one said that missioning should be banned. We said that
1) You get a ****ton of rewards already from missioning, missioning was already way too profitable in various ways compared to other EVE professions.
2) You have NO PROOF that there was even a nerf, and even if you did, the nerf would be a -good- thing (see point 1)
We don't want you to stop missioning, we want you to
a) Back up your complaints with proof, and
b) explain why the change was a bad thing
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Queen Killerz
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 30/03/2008 05:30:57
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Non of your business how we choose to play our game! And your opinion doesn't count for anything either..
And yet no one said that missioning should be banned. We said that
1) You get a ****ton of rewards already from missioning, missioning was already way too profitable in various ways compared to other EVE professions.
2) You have NO PROOF that there was even a nerf, and even if you did, the nerf would be a -good- thing (see point 1)
We don't want you to stop missioning, we want you to
a) Back up your complaints with proof, and
b) explain why the change was a bad thing
Scroll up TROLL
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:33:00 -
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I've run missions in a Raven quite extensively (standing with RSS is now like 9.5) since January and have not experienced a perceptible drop in either loot value or missions payouts since then. If someone has objective data supporting an overall drop in mission ISK gain I'd love to see it, and would gladly change my opinion on the subject henceforth.
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Kahega Amielden
Legacy Syndicate
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:34:00 -
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Scroll up TROLL
Look at me, I'm using bold font to flame someone and emphasize my view in the hopes that I wont have to actually back up my complaints.
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Silver Night
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Wagstaff
Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Better refine, and some other things I can't remember right now.
Free datacores. Locator agents. Jump clones if your corp cooperates on either getting 8.0 or not goofing it up.
Actually, you don't need your corp. Your personal standings will work for Jump clones. Corp cooperation can lead to high sec POSs though. Also, faction ships if you get your standings really high. 2 each free frigates and crusirs, and a BS if you have insane standings. (Well, BPCs, but practically free)
And missions, if anything, need to be nerfed more. I have never run a level 4 mission in my life, and have mostly stayed in high sec and I ahve plenty of money. Quit whining.
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Rawr Cristina
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:36:00 -
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I'm doing missions atm, no change in payout from 6-8 months ago.
They also have no inherent risk whatsoever (unless you sit there and let yourself get killed), but pay huge ISK regardless.
If anything, a nerf is what they need.
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Judge Ment
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:39:00 -
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I been doing mission for a long time now. I'm currently 9.0 with ammartar, 6.3 amarr and 7.0 caldari. I have seen a huge drop in payments like OP has written.
W.C., Vengeance and Damsel ..
I'm going to agree with the OP here sorry
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sableye
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Silver Night
Originally by: Wagstaff
Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Better refine, and some other things I can't remember right now.
Free datacores. Locator agents. Jump clones if your corp cooperates on either getting 8.0 or not goofing it up.
Actually, you don't need your corp. Your personal standings will work for Jump clones. Corp cooperation can lead to high sec POSs though. Also, faction ships if you get your standings really high. 2 each free frigates and crusirs, and a BS if you have insane standings. (Well, BPCs, but practically free)
And missions, if anything, need to be nerfed more. I have never run a level 4 mission in my life, and have mostly stayed in high sec and I ahve plenty of money. Quit whining.
how do you get free factional ships from really high stnadings?
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Silver Night
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:52:00 -
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There are some agents in cosmos constellations. Free is an exaggeration, but as long as you have the standings, you give them a few tags and other cheap stuff and they give you the BPCs. I got Navy Caracal 2 run and hookbill 2 run. Like I said, even my standings were insufficient for the CNR BPC.
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Caldari Patriot.
Sansha's Nation Supporter
Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
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Judge Ment
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:53:00 -
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They give faction ships?
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sableye
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Silver Night
There are some agents in cosmos constellations. Free is an exaggeration, but as long as you have the standings, you give them a few tags and other cheap stuff and they give you the BPCs. I got Navy Caracal 2 run and hookbill 2 run. Like I said, even my standings were insufficient for the CNR BPC.
this I'll have to look into I have very high standings :)
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Marcus TheMartin
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.03.30 06:44:00 -
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Elderly people can't use computers any one who says otherwise is crazy
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PsychoBones
Morphine Inc
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Posted - 2008.03.30 07:10:00 -
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Tbh, you are gonna have to provide some proof if you want people to give a ****. Simply saying "this is how it is" and expecting people to believe and/or care simply won't cut it on these forums.
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mishkof
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.30 07:11:00 -
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What I dont understand is the people who cry to nerf missions...
You dont do missions. The Carebears that do them have no effect on you what so ever. Most of them dont PVP, trade or do anything that would threaten anything you do in eve. (At least the hardcore mission runners)
I just dont get people who just want to **** on anothers good time.
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