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Tarminic	Posted - 2008.04.07 14:42:00 - [61] Originally by: Kusha'an During the boxing match episode, the Chief was clobbered pretty hard by the Admiral in the ring, and he didn't squash the Admiral's head like a grape. If he's a Cylon, he's a very weak one, as even Cylon females can snap bones like twigs. I'm hoping for an explanation as to why the Chief is such a wuss. I'm guessing that the Cylons have to make a conscious effort to use their strength. Otherwise they'd go around breaking stuff all the time. Quote: Why has Colonel Tigh's eye not healed itself? Why would it? It was removed, and as far as I know Cylons don't have any mystical healing abilities - just the fact that they're resurrected when they die. Quote: Cylons are stupid. The fact that they are stupid also doesn't jibe with their ability to create super beings like the Twelve. Stupid based on our intelligence, but keep in mind that since the Cylons aren't actually human stuff that seems obvious to us might not be to them. Quote: If in fact the activation was automated, this goes to the super mystical aspect being given to the Cylons and is starting to remind me of Galactica 1980, where things are departing from normal, standard limitations. Good question - honestly, I think that the location had something to do with it. Then again, the Cylons might have intentionally "activated" them at that time because they knew that the Galactica was close to their fleet? No idea. Quote: Edit: The 5th Cylon can't be Admiral Adama, as Razor showed him as a younger man fighting old-style Cylons before there were hybrids. Hrm, good point. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7)
Roxanna Kell	Posted - 2008.04.07 14:46:00 - [62] I think that all the cylons have been revealed. IF you have watched Razor, you would notice that there was an old man in a water tank. Was he a cylon? must be. And none of the fleet know of that encounter with that man, so my guess there is no last cylon that hasnt been revealed yet. The show could be heading towards a miracle road, Starbuck didnt die, the little kid recovered, plus the many many things. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Quote: There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.
Kusha'an Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.04.07 15:00:00 - [63] Originally by: Tarminic I'm guessing that the Cylons have to make a conscious effort to use their strength. Otherwise they'd go around breaking stuff all the time. I dunno, he didn't look like he was pulling his punches to me. It still seems inconsistent. ANY time I've seen a Cylon fight, it's like Blade all over again. Quote: Why would it? It was removed, and as far as I know Cylons don't have any mystical healing abilities - just the fact that they're resurrected when they die. Hmm. Must be my mistake, I thought they could heal themselves. Gotta go back and watch old episodes now. Originally by: welsh wizard stupid falcon pilots uncloak all the time coz they think they need to surface for air.
ry ry StateCorp Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.07 15:03:00 - [64] Istvaan Shogaatsu
Dirtee Girl Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.04.07 15:04:00 - [65] baltar - has to be * *
Wild Rho GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.07 16:42:00 - [66] Originally by: Kusha'an Originally by: Tarminic I'm guessing that the Cylons have to make a conscious effort to use their strength. Otherwise they'd go around breaking stuff all the time. I dunno, he didn't look like he was pulling his punches to me. It still seems inconsistent. ANY time I've seen a Cylon fight, it's like Blade all over again. It could be the final five are built differently to the other models, there certainly seems to be some unique aspect to them for the others to hold them in such reverence. There's also the possibility that when a human/cylon is in "sleeper" mode (think they're human) they don't have their full strength - it would make sense from the perspective of not blowing their cover, plus the Sharon/Boomer model way back at the start never showed any signs of greater strength until she "woke up". Originally by: Kusha'an Originally by: Tarminic Why would it? It was removed, and as far as I know Cylons don't have any mystical healing abilities - just the fact that they're resurrected when they die. Hmm. Must be my mistake, I thought they could heal themselves. Gotta go back and watch old episodes now. The cylons do have higher endurance/resilience and can resurrect when they die but there's never been any indication that they actually heal faster or to any greater degree.
Garat Mant Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2008.04.07 17:25:00 - [67] I'm still not buying it. The "revealed four" just don't make sense as cylons, like they've been retconned in. Why isn't Tyrol and Callie's baby such a big deal? How can Tigh be a cylon when Adama discovered the dismemberment/assembly rooms in Razor? I am not sure that the Anders' "red eye" incident during the dogfight was what it looked like. Who says the raider transmitted data to Anders? Why not the other way around? The "revealed four" are Earthlings, Starbuckians or Lords of Kobol. Or maybe all the cylons are clones of the Lords of Kobol. Thing is, I am not sure that BSG will answer this by the end of the season, the writers will leave it open for more miniseries. -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Recruiting mature players!
HankMurphy	Posted - 2008.04.07 18:12:00 - [68] Edited by: HankMurphy on 07/04/2008 18:16:13 Originally by: Kusha'an Edited by: Kusha''an on 07/04/2008 13:59:08 I have questions regarding possible inconsistencies in the revelation of the "Final 5." ... <words>... Edit: The 5th Cylon can't be Admiral Adama, as Razor showed him as a younger man fighting old-style Cylons before there were hybrids. The middle of your post was stuff i didn't want to touch on for lots of reasons. The beginning and the end of it is what speculators need to focus on. Fact: If the revealed final 5 cylons are really cylons then things we have taken for granted in the last 3 seasons need to be thrown in the bin. Fact: The Colonel is older than 40. He and adama both fought in the first cylon war. Its been 40 years since the cylon war. 40 years since those that were created by man revolted. 40 years to evolve. Assumption: One that everyone has made, the human models are a direct result of cylon evolution since they left and ended the 1st war. Logical but crazy conclusion: The final five are not a result of cylon evolution, the models were designed by beings other than those that revolted against humans. They may have been cylons, but not the ones we created. -Where did we get the idea to build cylons? -What spurred the creation of the human models (minus the final 5)? -Why are the 'standard' cylon human models programmed not to think of the final 5(or better yet WHO programmed them to not think of them?) -Why are there only one of each final five (that we know of) but mass #'s of the other 7? All will be revealed. Where does that leave us? Fraked if I know, but bet your bottom isk i won't be missing an episode ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
Dirtee Girl	Posted - 2008.04.07 20:02:00 - [69] Edited by: Dirtee Girl on 07/04/2008 20:05:10 Originally by: Garat Mant I'm still not buying it. The "revealed four" just don't make sense as cylons, like they've been retconned in. Why isn't Tyrol and Callie's baby such a big deal? How can Tigh be a cylon when Adama discovered the dismemberment/assembly rooms in Razor? I am not sure that the Anders' "red eye" incident during the dogfight was what it looked like. Who says the raider transmitted data to Anders? Why not the other way around? The "revealed four" are Earthlings, Starbuckians or Lords of Kobol. Or maybe all the cylons are clones of the Lords of Kobol. Thing is, I am not sure that BSG will answer this by the end of the season, the writers will leave it open for more miniseries. yea i tend to agree the new four seem like a deliberate misdirection . i mean tyrol and cally's baby really in my mind disqualifies tyrol however tyrol has survived some serious crap so maybe ... tigh is too old period unless he was killed and replaced ... the other girl "whatever you say madame president " she's kinda a nobody on the show . she really never does anything and anders well everybody thinks it was oh he's getting transmissions but i think it was just the cylon getting orders to bug out tbh i think the charachters are being misdirected and they are not the final five * Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. *
Frezik	Posted - 2008.04.08 02:46:00 - [70] Originally by: Garat Mant The "revealed four" just don't make sense as cylons, like they've been retconned in. They were Quote: Why isn't Tyrol and Callie's baby such a big deal? It is. However, we've had only about 50 minutes of showtime with these guys as known Cylons. It's not something that there's been time to deal with yet. Additionally, other Cylons don't know about Tyrol/Callie's baby. It's something to be quiet about for now. Originally by: HankMurphy Fact: The Colonel is older than 40. He and adama both fought in the first cylon war. But not, apparently, together. They seem to have met much later. So there's nobody around who can verify Saul's story except Saul. Any records about his wartime action are likely forged. Quote: -Why are there only one of each final five (that we know of) but mass #'s of the other 7? The final 5 were supposed to be boxed (personalities placed on hard drives and thrown into a dark corner instead of rebirthing). The four we know are probably the only ones who escaped. Tom Zarek would make a great choice for the last Cylon. You could even have him be fully aware of his true status since the beginning, thus shedding a whole new light on his terrorism days. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
HankMurphy	Posted - 2008.04.08 05:53:00 - [71] Originally by: Frezik Originally by: HankMurphy Fact: The Colonel is older than 40. He and adama both fought in the first cylon war. But not, apparently, together. They seem to have met much later. So there's nobody around who can verify Saul's story except Saul. Any records about his wartime action are likely forged. Quote: -Why are there only one of each final five (that we know of) but mass #'s of the other 7? The final 5 were supposed to be boxed (personalities placed on hard drives and thrown into a dark corner instead of rebirthing). The four we know are probably the only ones who escaped. Tom Zarek would make a great choice for the last Cylon. You could even have him be fully aware of his true status since the beginning, thus shedding a whole new light on his terrorism days. Zarek! I love this idea. The 'original' apollo ending up a cylon would be pretty sweet. Final 5 were supposed to be boxed? I missed that part somewhere. Don't doubt it, but can you point me where they said that? And i see what you saying about Saul. Adama and Saul were good friends from a pretty early age, but not as early as when Adama began as a pilot. Going to guess their friendship started several years later. Saul was a known combatant in the first war and a hero. A pilot to rival Starbuck's own reputation. However if my theory of Starbuck being a clone is possible (which i really have no evidence for), I suppose there is no real way of being sure the Saul we know is the 'original' Saul... and even if he is, questions of his past would be hard to confirm w/ a few thousand ppl left in the entire race. Either way, it's hard for me to think there isn't some breach in the known timeline & series of events that are allegedly: from cylons leaving and then evolving to humans and these final five getting seeded in the population that time period. I'm going to stick to my guns and say there is something way out of whack to explain not only where ALL the human models came from, but to explain what programmed them and placed the final 5 in the population. damn i love this show ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.08 06:33:00 - [72] Originally by: MalVortex Personally, I think its Billy. You stole that from my thread didn't you? Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Yakoff Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:00:00 - [73] If Tigh, Tyrol, Anders, and what's her name IS in fact cylons, I want to know why they are not dead yet. After all, in the episode A Measure of Salvation, there was a virus that killed an entire basestar. So why were these 4 not infected when the cylons that were captured were brought on board the Galactica? At minimum, I believe Tigh was around them.
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:07:00 - [74] Originally by: HankMurphy Final 5 were supposed to be boxed? I missed that part somewhere. Don't doubt it, but can you point me where they said that? I think it was Caprica who said it, sometime during Baltar's stay on the Basestar. They were supposedly boxed for some "sin". I wonder if that sin was that they decided that the Cylons were wrong and started to help humanity.
Jillius	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:09:00 - [75] Starbucks mom.
Relkathi Hyklis Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:18:00 - [76] When they decided to end the show on their own terms they definitely left some holes in the plot. Garut mentioned Cheif and Kallie's baby, and how it kind of makes Athena's baby not such a big deal. I had not even though about the Cylon Virus. I am pretty sure that Tigh and Tyrol were definitely around during that time, but will have to watch that episode again to make sure. Anyone else think of any more plot holes? Psst, my bet is on Roslin as the final at this moment, but it will probably change.
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:46:00 - [77] Confirmed humans (from the creators' statements): both living Adamas, Starbuck, Helo, Baltar, Roslyn. So you can stop picking those. And those 4 really are Cylons, the 4th season premier confirms it. My short list of candidates: Billy Zach The Priestess Dualla (unlikely since she was on Galactica and would have heard the music). Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:57:00 - [78] How could Zach (assuming you're referring to Lee's brother) be a Cylon? Adama would have been there when he was born. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7)
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.04.08 22:20:00 - [79] Mm. Either Starbuck is a clone, a Cylon, or has just been reconfigured with memories of Earth. The quest for them to find Earth is now entirely futile, since Starbuck gave an accurate description of Saturn/Jupiter, either the Cylons have been there and gave her this information or she's just gone batsh!t crazy. In other words, IT'S A TRAP! Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.08 23:27:00 - [80] Originally by: Tarminic How could Zach (assuming you're referring to Lee's brother) be a Cylon? Adama would have been there when he was born. He could have been replaced. Tigh is 60-something and there apparently weren't any skinjobs until roughly 40 years ago. So either this isn't the original Tigh whom Adama knew in the first war, or he was introduced with false memories just before it. And since Cylons aren't born like humans, they have no kids and no experience with them, e.g. Maia, they would all have to be substituted or introduced with false memories. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.08 23:30:00 - [81] I'm wondering if the "Final Five" are actually the "First Five". Maybe they weren't as advanced or as bloodthirsty as the later 7 models, so their "sin" was caring or being too ambivalent towards the humans, or just not as efficient/good as the later models. Thus they were put in cold storage, except for those who were already secreted within Colonial civilization. Or perhaps some of them escaped to the Colonials when the culling happened. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Icycle Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2008.04.09 00:01:00 - [82] Actor who plays Starbuck clearly said her character was not the fifth.
Icheckjitamarketlol State War Academy	Posted - 2008.04.09 00:41:00 - [83] Edited by: Icheckjitamarketlol on 09/04/2008 00:43:21 Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 05/04/2008 08:47:35 Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 05/04/2008 02:31:12 Sephra, this would almost make an awful lot of sense if only the "Battlestar Galactica" storyline wouldn't be more or less the same as it was nearly 30 years ago. So, unless you can come up with a cleverly twisted argument on how some conspiracy to invade Iraq and have it insinuated into the plotline of a cheezy TV show just so the "revival" of the show would coincide with events that would transpire several decades later, I call that pure and simple fantasy. Battlestar: Iraqtica Does the hit television show support the Iraqi insurgency? Cylon majority 'Battlestar Galactica' focuses its third season on a parallel universe -- ours Battlestar Galacticons A close look at the right's scary affinity for sci-fi foreign policy punditry. Please stop **ting up every single damn thread in out of pod. We don't give a flying ** about whether or not the show is supposed to be analogous to the Iraqi conflict or not, we're here to discuss it, because it's a great damn show.
Nathanial Victor Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.04.09 01:05:00 - [84] ATTN SEPHRA STAR: This just in! Make believe plots in tv shows sometimes parallel real world topics and events. more at 11! "one more spam thread will get you a warning. - Thanks Hutch. " isn't a warning of a warning a warning? or just a warning of a warning? didnt he just get 'the warning'? my head hurts
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.09 01:30:00 - [85] I'm gonna back Sephra on the fact that the first 4 episodes of season 3 are an allegory for the Iraq War. On the other hand, it's pretty obvious that the humans are the Iraqis and the Cylons are the US. (And I'm American, so don't blow this out of proportion). So that really destroys your whole theory that it's propaganda for the NWO. In short, Sephra, frak off. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.04.09 02:22:00 - [86] We won't see the final Cylon until they get to earth, because the final Cylon is Sephra! You heard it here first.
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2008.04.09 12:44:00 - [87] Originally by: Frezik We won't see the final Cylon until they get to earth, because the final Cylon is Sephra! You heard it here first. I love your corpname. It wins over "No Highs, No Lows, it must be BOSE" I really, really hate that the 4 have been retconned in. I love this show way too much, but it really seemed to start losing the thread past the Tomb of Athena showing the star constellations... -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Recruiting mature players!
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.04.09 12:57:00 - [88] George Bush is the final cylon
Moira Balick Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate The Omni Federation	Posted - 2008.04.12 20:39:00 - [89] "Dudes, the "final five" are not cylons at all. Though the Cylons have been led to believe they are. Events have been manipulated from the very start by some "behind the curtain" element. Lauras "visions", Baltars invisible friend, the mysterious "all along the watchtower" tune (i.e. why THAT song?) and many other clues exist to tell us that this is a tripartite struggle, not just cylon Vs human." - Think that might just be something to that...
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.04.12 21:15:00 - [90] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 12/04/2008 21:19:54 The sieries stoped making sense a lnog time ago ... that is mein eyes. The producer is realy good at making moneh with the sieries. Teh last Cylon is impossibel to guess. Just wait until mid-sieries first, heh? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-

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