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Feng Schui
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Posted - 2008.04.05 01:39:00 -
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So who do you think the last cylon is? My vote goes to either the President or....
Starbuck!
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Posted - 2008.04.05 01:39:00 -
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Starbuck.
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darklegionca
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Posted - 2008.04.05 01:40:00 -
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im going with starbuck
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Sereifex Daku
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Posted - 2008.04.05 01:42:00 -
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Since the identities of the 11 of 12 have been divulged, I'm thinking that the last cylon is a character we won't see until near the end. It's just a hunch, really.
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.05 01:46:00 -
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I think it will be Apollo.
Here is my temporary Tag.
On Battlestar Galactica Heroic Cylons Battle Vicious Terrorists
The Sci Fi Channel show is a moving and haunting allegory about why we should stay the course in Iraq. The heroes are a deeply religious race, called the Cylons, who struggle to bring democratic ideals and Christian values to a planet called New Caprica (Iraq, of course) in the face of an increasingly violent insurgency. In a clever and ironic twist the Christian Cylons (Americans) are actually very human-like machines, while the villainous "humans" on New Caprica (al Qaeda) are brutal terrorists who follow a primitive polytheistic religion and behave like animals.
Battlestar Galactica is not really about the future as much as it's a subversive analysis of current events. The terrorists are led by an unscrupulous man prone to violent rages named Admiral Adama (Edward James Olmos), who not only has a name that is clearly meant to evoke ***** Bin Laden, he also bears something of a resemblance to ****** *******. He even has a lazy, playboy son like ****** had. The insurgency is headed up by the unhinged Col. Saul Tigh (Michael Hogan), who is locked up in a Guantanamo-like prison at the beginning of the episode recovering from some Cylon alternate interrogation procedures (apparently New Caprica is free of nit-picking Geneva Conventions).
As soon as Col. Tigh is free he goes right back to lead the insurgents and decides to up the ante by launching a depraved suicide bombing campaign. The first attack takes out a group of idealistic young police recruits, which, of course, directly parallels terrorist attacks against Iraqi security forces taking place today. If I have any criticism of the show it's that the New Capricans are so unsympathetic and vile in contrast to the peace-loving Cylons, who are clearly just trying to help them, that at times it seems like a simplistic battle between good (the Cylons) and evil (the New Capricans). A few more shades of gray might make the show more interesting.
For example, in one scene a terrorist named Starbuck responds to the hospitality of one kindly Cylon by viciously murdering him and then sitting down to calmly eat her dinner covered with his blood. (Luckily, unlike our soldiers in Iraq, the Cylons have the power to regenerate themselves so he's okay in the next scene.) Perhaps the most annoying of the New Capricans is a liberal apologist named Laura Roslin (Mary McDonnell) who justifies the suicide bombing by saying, "Desperate people use desperate measures." At one point she self-righteously accuses the suave and sophisticated President Gaius Baltar (James Callis) of torturing Col. Tigh, but he quickly puts her in her place by echoing George Bush: "We don't use torture." What the New Capricans don't seem to realize is that they only make things worse for themselves by resisting the Cylons' beneficence. If they stopped their futile insurgency, the Cylons would be able to repair the infrastructure and give them better places to live than tents.
All in all it looks like an impressive series. I was very surprised to see a pro-Iraq War, pro-Christian series.
Hopefully, a lot of people will see it and it will make them think about just what it is we are doing in Iraq.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2008.04.05 01:46:00 -
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Lee Adama.
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Daelorn
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Posted - 2008.04.05 02:07:00 -
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The bartender
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Tarquin Tarquinius
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Posted - 2008.04.05 02:14:00 -
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Baltar
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Akita T
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Posted - 2008.04.05 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 05/04/2008 02:31:12
Sephra, this would almost make an awful lot of sense if only the "Battlestar Galactica" storyline wouldn't be more or less the same as it was nearly 30 years ago.
So, unless you can come up with a cleverly twisted argument on how some conspiracy to invade Iraq and have it insinuated into the plotline of a cheezy TV show just so the "revival" of the show would coincide with events that would transpire several decades later, I call that pure and simple fantasy.
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I have discounted both Adamas as "way too much" (and because then "Hera" would not be the "first hybrid", which would break the storyline) and Roslyn (the cancer, I mean, come on)... and the other "last minute cylons" unveiled in the season three finale (Tory, Colonel Tigh, Tyrol, and Anders).
I also cut out Balthar as being so obvious that he just can't be one, and it would seriously bum the storyline too (yeah, let's SEDUCE the secret cylon that's not a cylon to hack the computer network on Caprica, let's not just have him do it directly [/sarcasm]).
That being said, by simple process of elimination, it's either Starbuck (a little bit too obvious, but meh) or Gaeta (I mean, why not, not like we have much choice left).
Of course, it can still be one of the above, as I wouldn't put it past the writers to come up with some back-asswards reasoning for breaking the storyline's logic just for the "surprise!" factor.
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: Chereadenine Zakalwe on 05/04/2008 03:18:35
Starbucks too obvious.I have no better idea, but i reckon shes just a red herring thrown at us by the writers.
I mean ffs tigh turned out to be one of em so the last un has to be somet special!
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Roxanna Kell
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:24:00 -
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Gauis
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RagnarH
Corp 1 Allstars
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:24:00 -
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Starbucks.
She came back after beeing "dead"
I think either she was killed and brought back (hardly, since she came back in her own ship)
Or
The cylons couldn't kill her cause she was one of them or what ever.
When does the next serie start ?
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Gneeznow
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:25:00 -
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Starbuck or Dualla
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Roxanna Kell
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:29:00 -
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It ll really be messed up if its the commander.
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War Keynvor
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.04.05 05:34:00 -
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Either Gaeta or someone coming back from the dead such as president Adar or Billy.
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MalVortex
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.04.05 08:24:00 -
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Personally, I think its Billy.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.05 08:30:00 -
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Its gotta be Starbuck or Apollo. I don't buy that it's someone we haven't met yet, since when Number Three saw the faces of The Five , it seemed like it was someone important that she knew.
I don't buy that it'll be the President (because of the cancer thing), Admiral Adama (not least because it'd be far too clichT, also theres just been no signs of it), definitely not Baltar (hasn't that pretty much been cleared up already?) and anyone else would be too anti-climatic.
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.05 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 05/04/2008 02:31:12
Sephra, this would almost make an awful lot of sense if only the "Battlestar Galactica" storyline wouldn't be more or less the same as it was nearly 30 years ago.
So, unless you can come up with a cleverly twisted argument on how some conspiracy to invade Iraq and have it insinuated into the plotline of a cheezy TV show just so the "revival" of the show would coincide with events that would transpire several decades later, I call that pure and simple fantasy.
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Droofy
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Posted - 2008.04.05 08:46:00 -
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I bet that the last Cylon is the battlestar galactica itself, where do you think the music the 4 new cylons heard at the end of last season comes from ?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.05 09:09:00 -
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Ah, you should have said you mean the "Insurgency" storyline arc.
However, you interpret it as an overtly pro-Iraq-war, pro-Christianity sequence... the "warmongering Christians" see it as an affront to their position on having the "good guys" be the Iraqi-like side in that storyline sequence.
All in all, I'd have to say it was a pretty neutral rendition of current events, merely having shifted the traditional viewpoint of "USA good, muslims bad" by having the humans be the insurgents for a change.
One man's biased story is another man's objective viewpoint... meh... no further comment.
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Sephra Star
The Galactic Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.05 09:59:00 -
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I was not posting what I thought the interpretation was.
I was merely posting links to back up my assertion.
It really does not matter how you interpret it as the overall effect has a deffinate psychological impact on Americans to go along with the grotesque crimes our government is engaged in.
Frankly I had not bothered watching BSG religiously. I ration my television viewing and even when I do watch it I keep my attention divided (internet) and maintain an accute awareness of the intended psychological effects.
As I have said before I am a veteran of the 4th PSYOP Group and I know full well from my training and experience what the intended nature of programming is.
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Sephra Star
The Galactic Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.05 10:05:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 05/04/2008 10:05:44
On another note though I thought I would mention a scene from a re-run of BSG that has to do with the topic of this thread.
Think back at the episode where a captured Cylon has preumably planted an atomic device set to go off on a timer.
Starbuck was placed in charge of the interogation which of course included all that torture.
Here is the point that. At the end of the episode think back at when the President insisted she be transported to see the prisoner like an hour before it was supposedly set to go off.
She told the guards to take off his restraints and after he told her that he made the whole thing up to buy some time he suddenly grabbed "Madam President" and whispered in her ear.
"I have something to tell you; ADAMA IS A CYLON"
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.05 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star
It really does not matter how you interpret it as the overall effect has a deffinate psychological impact on Americans to go along with the grotesque crimes our government is engaged in.
Of course interpretation matters. How you interpret it is exactly what determines what effect it has on you.
When I watched the Insurgency episodes, all I was thinking was "War is terrible, it drives people to terrible, brutal things". It most certainly did not make me want to embrace war, and neither did it make me think that war was justified. It portrayed war (particularly a "liberation invasion" like the Cylons partook in) as disastrous and awful and to be avoided at all costs.
I'm sorry that you interpreted it as justification for war, but I guess that says more about you than the program... 
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Sephra Star
The Galactic Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.05 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 05/04/2008 10:24:28
You have to understand the programming we are being subjected to on telivision in terms of the intended psychological impact has multiple target objectives depending on the type of person you are.
Desensitzation to violence is part of it and generally is intended for the younger crowd. A large part of the idea behind most programming directed at youth is to break down their morality in order to accept a Luciferion sociology that is willing to accept genocide and regard it in an acceptable manner. It also glamorizes war and helps to mold their mental conditioning as potential soldiers. Video games are a large of this programming.
It also works to enhance a general paranoia on those who have grown mature enough to reject violence. That facilitates a tendency to remain silent in the face of the criminal behavior of the estableshment which enslaves them.
Another important aspect is to keep people hypnotized in a false reality to distract them from reality. If there were no such thing as telivision people would have much more time to spend with each other discussing real life.
If people started doing that they would begin waking up and realising what is really going on in the world.
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Roxanna Kell
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Posted - 2008.04.05 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Omfg, someone put this dude out of his misery.
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Sereifex Daku
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Posted - 2008.04.05 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Sephra Star
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Omfg, someone put this dude out of his misery.
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Sephra Star
The Galactic Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.05 12:03:00 -
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Classical conditioning and the æwar on terrorÆ
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Elliot Reid
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Posted - 2008.04.05 12:07:00 -
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It would be far too obvious if it was Starbuck, unless they are being tricky 
My guess is, and it has to be a major char, Roslin.
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Posted - 2008.04.05 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star
Random nonsense on covertly turning the US into a militaristic nation
Shame only 1% of the US population is actually in the military, voluntarily at that too. And of that 1% only 25% or so is in combat arms. Looks like the government and Hollywood have a long long long long long ways to go.
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Orion Eridanus
Dark Nova Crisis
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2008.04.05 12:22:00 -
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You keep using the same links, running out of material sephra?
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
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mamolian
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.05 12:26:00 -
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My isk's on the President!
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Sephra Star
The Galactic Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.05 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Orion Eridanus
You keep using the same links, running out of material sephra?
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Feng Schui
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.04.05 23:53:00 -
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Sephra Star, what exactly does this have to do with the original topic? Nothing, thats what. GTFO and stop trolling the thread, or stay on topic of who you think the last cylon is.
Thanks.
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Uzuness
stone grave haulage
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Posted - 2008.04.05 23:57:00 -
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I watched it last night.. and I'll say it's either the president, or that one lady who was with Baltar when he got attacked in the bathroom.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.04.05 23:59:00 -
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The old man 
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Nicky Rostu
Fading Star Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.06 01:07:00 -
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I think Starbuck's a clone. According to all the evidence, the original Starbuck did die in the storm, and the fact that they mentioned the time she was held prisoner in the hospital makes me think they cloned her from something they got then.
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KhieIly
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2008.04.06 01:23:00 -
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I think it is either the doctor or someone unseen as yet.
There was an interesting write up on TVGuide site,
TV Guide link:
http://www.tvguide.com/news
MSN webisode for those who missed it:
http://entertainment.msn.com/video/playerN?pid=I75KuvodM004TInPhquag1PhtbBnMjaw>1=28114
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Tyrenical
Singularity.
Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.06 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Sephra Star
It really does not matter how you interpret it as the overall effect has a deffinate psychological impact on Americans to go along with the grotesque crimes our government is engaged in.
Of course interpretation matters. How you interpret it is exactly what determines what effect it has on you.
When I watched the Insurgency episodes, all I was thinking was "War is terrible, it drives people to terrible, brutal things". It most certainly did not make me want to embrace war, and neither did it make me think that war was justified. It portrayed war (particularly a "liberation invasion" like the Cylons partook in) as disastrous and awful and to be avoided at all costs.
I'm sorry that you interpreted it as justification for war, but I guess that says more about you than the program...
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P.S. All governments are self serving and grotesque.
Except maby Canada & Australia.
And Amsterdam.
They're chill.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 04:46:00 -
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I vote it's the Admiral. It's got to be. He's the only one whom if it were true, would blow the viewers away. If it is though, I think i might be actually mad.. :):)
it can't be Starbuck..too obvious. the only other person I could think of would be the President. She would be a good one too! Since she's having visions all along!! But I dunno!
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Posted - 2008.04.06 05:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tacitus Krekt on 06/04/2008 05:07:25
Originally by: Sephra Star
Edited by: Sephra Star on 05/04/2008 12:19:48
The United States has been miltaristic for a long time.
It is a corporatist empire that first tries to negotiate with its target to get what it wants. If that does not work it sends in the assassin jackles. If that fails you send in the military.
It is Fascism, Globalism, NWO.
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Good point.
Glad to see you're making it on an internet spaceship forum.
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Max Payne206
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.06 09:20:00 -
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I don't understand how they keep surviving if they are outnumbered at least 2:1 (More like 10:1 or bigger since cylons can make thousands of copies of themselves), their technology is very inferior compared to cylon technology and important characters on Galactica have been shown to be cylons. Do you really think that they couldn't have killed the president and Admiral Adama already when they have cylons that have daily contact with them? I don't. I don't understand how the cylons haven't already won already.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 10:03:00 -
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Adama is the last cylon, he must be if his 2nd in command who he has served for 34 years with is one.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 10:06:00 -
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YOU the viewer are the last cyclon!
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Posted - 2008.04.06 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Droofy
I bet that the last Cylon is the battlestar galactica itself, where do you think the music the 4 new cylons heard at the end of last season comes from ?
This.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Toasted Trucker
YOU the viewer are the last cyclon!
Which sort of fits in with what I have said in every BSG thread there has been on these forums, well not everyone but at least 2, Earth is a Cylon colony.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 14:25:00 -
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It could be any body. They could just twist things around however they want to make it so but:
1) They did go through all this excitement about Helo & Boomer having a baby. That seemed like a really big deal for the Cylons and they really wanted that kid.
2) Assuming Adama is Apollos father - why would there have been such a big deal about Helo & Boomer's kid if Adama or Apollo were a Cylon? So I don't think it's them.
3) Of course the Chief and Callie have had a baby and the Chief is a cylon so what's up with that? Maybe it's Callie. Maybe it's Callie's baby.
4) The president is having all these visions. The blonde Cylon has visions. It has to be someone important or why are they making such a big deal about who it is. My money's on the President - though her having cancer would tend to work against that. Of course if Boomer can have a baby maybe Cylons can get cancer. *shrug*
I really don't know. There are reasons why all the prime characters shouldn't be Cylons. If you start going into the secondary characters - it could be anyone. It could be the character played by the actor who was the Original Apollo. It could be that guy who counts down the jumps. It could be that black girl Apollo was going with for a while. It could even be Balthar.
Apologies for not looking up all those character names on IMDB but I just didn't feel like doing it. Sorry.
They certainly are getting mystical though. But then they did do that with some of the episodes of the original Galactica.
BSG & Heroes are kind of funny in that they way they're written, you want to know what's gonna happen but they don't seem to have much replay value. Usually, TV shows play each episode twice a year but neither of those shows seems to have re-runs.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 15:21:00 -
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Im the last cylon !!!
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Posted - 2008.04.06 15:35:00 -
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I am voting either:
Starbuck (yeah its too obvious ... but ...)
or
The President
Good show though :)
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Posted - 2008.04.06 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Seabhac on 06/04/2008 17:22:27
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/1,,20169703,00.html
That is an interview with the writers about the last supper picture, click on number 10 and you see that they say that the last cylon isnt in the picture.
Can't imagine who it could be other then one of them though.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Seabhac
linkified
[...]click on number 10 and you see that they say that the last cylon isnt in the picture.
Can't imagine who it could be other then one of them though.
Well, the "last cylon" can't be any of the 11 "already unveiled" ones, and apparently it's hinted it's not anybody from the picture either.
So, that would disqualify both of the Adamas (which I already did anyway for other reasons), Starbuck (the "way too obvious" excuse used by me), Roslyn the Prez (my reasoning was the cancer), Balthar (another "if he's a cylon the plot has no sense" character) and Helo (Hera wouldn't be a hybrid otherwise, would she).
Cally is apparently "confirmed" as a hybrid cylon-human mother, and with Tyroll being a cylon, that means she should be human.
So... hmm... who's left then ?
Tom Zarek (the "rebel leader", presidential candidate, remember him?), while somehow "forgotten" in the last season, might as well make a comback, and prove to be the last cylon.
Gaeta is the most obvious choice given the circumstances, as a reasonably established character in a place where he could do some damage.
However, Dualla could be too, since the last "undiscovered" Cylon is probably female, not male (so far we have 6 male, 5 female human-form cylons).
Also, since Lee Adama is likely to become more involved in politics, Dualla could end up becoming a significant character too during the course of the fourth season, making this whole think even more likely that she is the last cylon.
Last but not least, the last cylon COULD be on Earth (how the hell did Starbuck get there anyway), somebody we thought dead, or a character that hasn't even appeared in the show yet. Either of those are highly unlikely however.
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My money's on Dualla right now 
But a close second on Gaeta.
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Slacker Industries Limited
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Posted - 2008.04.06 18:20:00 -
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If I recall there was an article on gateworld.net's gallactica forum a year or so back that the 12th is a yet to be introduced character according to the writers. But then again they did advertise that someone was going to die last season. Dont qoute me on that though.
I dont think Starbuck is one of the 12 models, she may very well be a Cylon, but not an "infiltrator unit" like the others. IE when you think about it, there are 16 current models.
The twelve infiltrator models
The Raider
The Heavy Raider (transport ship thing)
BaseStar Hybrid
Centurion (sp)
Im willing to bet that starbuck is some sort of armageddon unit.
What I am interested in though is this: If starbuck is a cylon, why did the cylons send her back in a mint condition viper? Surely they are not that dumb and would have alteast beaten up the ship a bit.
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Posted - 2008.04.07 03:08:00 -
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lee's dead brother :)
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Posted - 2008.04.07 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: mamolian
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.07 12:48:00 -
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Starbuck - Way too obvious, plus the creators said that she wasn't one
Gaius - Way too obvious, no
Lee Adama - Not possible. Cylons have fake histories and identities, how can someone's history and identity be fake if your dad is still around and clearly knows who you are?
Admiral Adama - That actually may be possible, but would go against the idea that a human/cylon hybrid didn't exist until recently
President - Possible, that may be why the Cylon transfusion worked on her.
Oh man, this season will be interesting.
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Lords Of Kaos
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.07 12:59:00 -
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Admiral William Adama
or Captain Lee 'Apollo' Adama
the BSG writers like to rip your assumptions apart
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I cnanot handle the suspense 
I seriously have no idea who could be the next Cylon, I thought I had a clue until I read the hint link...
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Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.07 13:10:00 -
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Wait... is the last Cylon Gaeta?
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Gunfleet Logistics
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Posted - 2008.04.07 13:46:00 -
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Dudes, the "final five" are not cylons at all. Though the Cylons have been led to believe they are. Events have been manipulated from the very start by some "behind the curtain" element. Lauras "visions", Baltars invisible friend, the mysterious "all along the watchtower" tune (i.e. why THAT song?) and many other clues exist to tell us that this is a tripartite struggle, not just cylon Vs human.
I think some agency based on earth is directing the whole show towards its own end. Whether its the original human species or something else. The 'final five" is a fantasy concocted to keep the cylons in check and the Galactica five are not simply cylons at all, but something more.
Ronald Moore is too savvy not to end the series with a bit of mindbendary and a final cylon reveal would'nt be enough, dramatically speaking.
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Posted - 2008.04.07 13:57:00 -
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I have questions regarding possible inconsistencies in the revelation of the "Final 5." Normally I wouldn't be this analytical or nitpicky, but somehow this mystic application of Cylons has me irritated. Everything has become weird.
So here they are.
During the boxing match episode, the Chief was clobbered pretty hard by the Admiral in the ring, and he didn't squash the Admiral's head like a grape. If he's a Cylon, he's a very weak one, as even Cylon females can snap bones like twigs. I'm hoping for an explanation as to why the Chief is such a wuss.
Why has Colonel Tigh's eye not healed itself?
Why is Anders still limping?
It would have made more sense for Tigh to have been activated while the settlers were still on New Caprica. Then his insurgent plans to help everyone escape would not have ever come to fruition. Cylons are stupid. The fact that they are stupid also doesn't jibe with their ability to create super beings like the Twelve.
If in fact the activation was automated, this goes to the super mystical aspect being given to the Cylons and is starting to remind me of Galactica 1980, where things are departing from normal, standard limitations.
They better tie up the loose end of the chief's child being a Cylon baby, or they've blown it again.
This show has morphed from a classic good vs. evil to a "the enemy is us" type show. It's a bit disconcerting. And I love the show, that's why I'm so disappointed.
Originally by: welsh wizard
stupid falcon pilots uncloak all the time coz they think they need to surface for air.
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Posted - 2008.04.07 14:02:00 -
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Boxy. It's Boxy.
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Posted - 2008.04.07 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kusha'an
During the boxing match episode, the Chief was clobbered pretty hard by the Admiral in the ring, and he didn't squash the Admiral's head like a grape. If he's a Cylon, he's a very weak one, as even Cylon females can snap bones like twigs. I'm hoping for an explanation as to why the Chief is such a wuss.
I'm guessing that the Cylons have to make a conscious effort to use their strength. Otherwise they'd go around breaking stuff all the time.
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Why has Colonel Tigh's eye not healed itself?
Why would it? It was removed, and as far as I know Cylons don't have any mystical healing abilities - just the fact that they're resurrected when they die.
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Cylons are stupid. The fact that they are stupid also doesn't jibe with their ability to create super beings like the Twelve.
Stupid based on our intelligence, but keep in mind that since the Cylons aren't actually human stuff that seems obvious to us might not be to them.
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If in fact the activation was automated, this goes to the super mystical aspect being given to the Cylons and is starting to remind me of Galactica 1980, where things are departing from normal, standard limitations.
Good question - honestly, I think that the location had something to do with it. Then again, the Cylons might have intentionally "activated" them at that time because they knew that the Galactica was close to their fleet? No idea.
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Hrm, good point.
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I think that all the cylons have been revealed. IF you have watched Razor, you would notice that there was an old man in a water tank. Was he a cylon? must be. And none of the fleet know of that encounter with that man, so my guess there is no last cylon that hasnt been revealed yet. The show could be heading towards a miracle road, Starbuck didnt die, the little kid recovered, plus the many many things.
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Posted - 2008.04.07 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
I'm guessing that the Cylons have to make a conscious effort to use their strength. Otherwise they'd go around breaking stuff all the time.
I dunno, he didn't look like he was pulling his punches to me. It still seems inconsistent. ANY time I've seen a Cylon fight, it's like Blade all over again.
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Why would it? It was removed, and as far as I know Cylons don't have any mystical healing abilities - just the fact that they're resurrected when they die.
Hmm. Must be my mistake, I thought they could heal themselves. Gotta go back and watch old episodes now.
Originally by: welsh wizard
stupid falcon pilots uncloak all the time coz they think they need to surface for air.
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Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.07 15:03:00 -
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Dirtee Girl
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.04.07 15:04:00 -
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Posted - 2008.04.07 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kusha'an
Originally by: Tarminic
I'm guessing that the Cylons have to make a conscious effort to use their strength. Otherwise they'd go around breaking stuff all the time.
I dunno, he didn't look like he was pulling his punches to me. It still seems inconsistent. ANY time I've seen a Cylon fight, it's like Blade all over again.
It could be the final five are built differently to the other models, there certainly seems to be some unique aspect to them for the others to hold them in such reverence.
There's also the possibility that when a human/cylon is in "sleeper" mode (think they're human) they don't have their full strength - it would make sense from the perspective of not blowing their cover, plus the Sharon/Boomer model way back at the start never showed any signs of greater strength until she "woke up".
Originally by: Kusha'an
Originally by: Tarminic
Why would it? It was removed, and as far as I know Cylons don't have any mystical healing abilities - just the fact that they're resurrected when they die.
Hmm. Must be my mistake, I thought they could heal themselves. Gotta go back and watch old episodes now.
The cylons do have higher endurance/resilience and can resurrect when they die but there's never been any indication that they actually heal faster or to any greater degree.
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Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2008.04.07 17:25:00 -
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I'm still not buying it. The "revealed four" just don't make sense as cylons, like they've been retconned in. Why isn't Tyrol and Callie's baby such a big deal? How can Tigh be a cylon when Adama discovered the dismemberment/assembly rooms in Razor?
I am not sure that the Anders' "red eye" incident during the dogfight was what it looked like. Who says the raider transmitted data to Anders? Why not the other way around?
The "revealed four" are Earthlings, Starbuckians or Lords of Kobol. Or maybe all the cylons are clones of the Lords of Kobol.
Thing is, I am not sure that BSG will answer this by the end of the season, the writers will leave it open for more miniseries.
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Edited by: HankMurphy on 07/04/2008 18:16:13
Originally by: Kusha'an
Edited by: Kusha''an on 07/04/2008 13:59:08
I have questions regarding possible inconsistencies in the revelation of the "Final 5."
... <words>...
Edit: The 5th Cylon can't be Admiral Adama, as Razor showed him as a younger man fighting old-style Cylons before there were hybrids.
The middle of your post was stuff i didn't want to touch on for lots of reasons.
The beginning and the end of it is what speculators need to focus on.
Fact: If the revealed final 5 cylons are really cylons then things we have taken for granted in the last 3 seasons need to be thrown in the bin.
Fact: The Colonel is older than 40. He and adama both fought in the first cylon war.
Its been 40 years since the cylon war. 40 years since those that were created by man revolted. 40 years to evolve.
Assumption: One that everyone has made, the human models are a direct result of cylon evolution since they left and ended the 1st war.
Logical but crazy conclusion: The final five are not a result of cylon evolution, the models were designed by beings other than those that revolted against humans.
They may have been cylons, but not the ones we created.
-Where did we get the idea to build cylons?
-What spurred the creation of the human models (minus the final 5)?
-Why are the 'standard' cylon human models programmed not to think of the final 5(or better yet WHO programmed them to not think of them?)
-Why are there only one of each final five (that we know of) but mass #'s of the other 7?
All will be revealed.
Where does that leave us? Fraked if I know, but bet your bottom isk i won't be missing an episode
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Posted - 2008.04.07 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dirtee Girl on 07/04/2008 20:05:10
Originally by: Garat Mant
I'm still not buying it. The "revealed four" just don't make sense as cylons, like they've been retconned in. Why isn't Tyrol and Callie's baby such a big deal? How can Tigh be a cylon when Adama discovered the dismemberment/assembly rooms in Razor?
I am not sure that the Anders' "red eye" incident during the dogfight was what it looked like. Who says the raider transmitted data to Anders? Why not the other way around?
The "revealed four" are Earthlings, Starbuckians or Lords of Kobol. Or maybe all the cylons are clones of the Lords of Kobol.
Thing is, I am not sure that BSG will answer this by the end of the season, the writers will leave it open for more miniseries.
yea i tend to agree the new four seem like a deliberate misdirection .
i mean tyrol and cally's baby really in my mind disqualifies tyrol however tyrol has survived some serious crap so maybe ...
tigh is too old period unless he was killed and replaced ...
the other girl "whatever you say madame president " she's kinda a nobody on the show . she really never does anything
and anders well everybody thinks it was oh he's getting transmissions but i think it was just the cylon getting orders to bug out tbh
i think the charachters are being misdirected and they are not the final five
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Posted - 2008.04.08 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Garat Mant
The "revealed four" just don't make sense as cylons, like they've been retconned in.
They were 
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Why isn't Tyrol and Callie's baby such a big deal?
It is. However, we've had only about 50 minutes of showtime with these guys as known Cylons. It's not something that there's been time to deal with yet.
Additionally, other Cylons don't know about Tyrol/Callie's baby. It's something to be quiet about for now.
Originally by: HankMurphy
Fact: The Colonel is older than 40. He and adama both fought in the first cylon war.
But not, apparently, together. They seem to have met much later. So there's nobody around who can verify Saul's story except Saul. Any records about his wartime action are likely forged.
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The final 5 were supposed to be boxed (personalities placed on hard drives and thrown into a dark corner instead of rebirthing). The four we know are probably the only ones who escaped.
Tom Zarek would make a great choice for the last Cylon. You could even have him be fully aware of his true status since the beginning, thus shedding a whole new light on his terrorism days.
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Posted - 2008.04.08 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Frezik
Originally by: HankMurphy
Fact: The Colonel is older than 40. He and adama both fought in the first cylon war.
But not, apparently, together. They seem to have met much later. So there's nobody around who can verify Saul's story except Saul. Any records about his wartime action are likely forged.
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-Why are there only one of each final five (that we know of) but mass #'s of the other 7?
The final 5 were supposed to be boxed (personalities placed on hard drives and thrown into a dark corner instead of rebirthing). The four we know are probably the only ones who escaped.
Tom Zarek would make a great choice for the last Cylon. You could even have him be fully aware of his true status since the beginning, thus shedding a whole new light on his terrorism days.
Zarek! I love this idea. The 'original' apollo ending up a cylon would be pretty sweet.
Final 5 were supposed to be boxed? I missed that part somewhere. Don't doubt it, but can you point me where they said that?
And i see what you saying about Saul. Adama and Saul were good friends from a pretty early age, but not as early as when Adama began as a pilot. Going to guess their friendship started several years later.
Saul was a known combatant in the first war and a hero. A pilot to rival Starbuck's own reputation. However if my theory of Starbuck being a clone is possible (which i really have no evidence for), I suppose there is no real way of being sure the Saul we know is the 'original' Saul... and even if he is, questions of his past would be hard to confirm w/ a few thousand ppl left in the entire race.
Either way, it's hard for me to think there isn't some breach in the known timeline & series of events that are allegedly: from cylons leaving and then evolving to humans and these final five getting seeded in the population that time period. I'm going to stick to my guns and say there is something way out of whack to explain not only where ALL the human models came from, but to explain what programmed them and placed the final 5 in the population.
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Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.04.08 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: MalVortex
Personally, I think its Billy.
You stole that from my thread didn't you?
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2008.04.08 14:00:00 -
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If Tigh, Tyrol, Anders, and what's her name IS in fact cylons, I want to know why they are not dead yet.
After all, in the episode A Measure of Salvation, there was a virus that killed an entire basestar. So why were these 4 not infected when the cylons that were captured were brought on board the Galactica? At minimum, I believe Tigh was around them.
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Frezik
Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment
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Posted - 2008.04.08 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy
Final 5 were supposed to be boxed? I missed that part somewhere. Don't doubt it, but can you point me where they said that?
I think it was Caprica who said it, sometime during Baltar's stay on the Basestar.
They were supposedly boxed for some "sin". I wonder if that sin was that they decided that the Cylons were wrong and started to help humanity.
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Posted - 2008.04.08 14:09:00 -
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Starbucks mom.
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Relkathi Hyklis
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.04.08 14:18:00 -
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When they decided to end the show on their own terms they definitely left some holes in the plot. Garut mentioned Cheif and Kallie's baby, and how it kind of makes Athena's baby not such a big deal. I had not even though about the Cylon Virus. I am pretty sure that Tigh and Tyrol were definitely around during that time, but will have to watch that episode again to make sure. Anyone else think of any more plot holes?
Psst, my bet is on Roslin as the final at this moment, but it will probably change.
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.04.08 15:46:00 -
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Confirmed humans (from the creators' statements): both living Adamas, Starbuck, Helo, Baltar, Roslyn.
So you can stop picking those. And those 4 really are Cylons, the 4th season premier confirms it.
My short list of candidates:
Billy
Zach
The Priestess
Dualla (unlikely since she was on Galactica and would have heard the music).
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.08 15:57:00 -
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How could Zach (assuming you're referring to Lee's brother) be a Cylon? Adama would have been there when he was born.
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Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.04.08 22:20:00 -
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Mm. Either Starbuck is a clone, a Cylon, or has just been reconfigured with memories of Earth.
The quest for them to find Earth is now entirely futile, since Starbuck gave an accurate description of Saturn/Jupiter, either the Cylons have been there and gave her this information or she's just gone batsh!t crazy.
In other words, IT'S A TRAP!
Originally by: Amoxin
My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.04.08 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
How could Zach (assuming you're referring to Lee's brother) be a Cylon? Adama would have been there when he was born.
He could have been replaced. Tigh is 60-something and there apparently weren't any skinjobs until roughly 40 years ago. So either this isn't the original Tigh whom Adama knew in the first war, or he was introduced with false memories just before it.
And since Cylons aren't born like humans, they have no kids and no experience with them, e.g. Maia, they would all have to be substituted or introduced with false memories.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.04.08 23:30:00 -
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I'm wondering if the "Final Five" are actually the "First Five". Maybe they weren't as advanced or as bloodthirsty as the later 7 models, so their "sin" was caring or being too ambivalent towards the humans, or just not as efficient/good as the later models. Thus they were put in cold storage, except for those who were already secreted within Colonial civilization. Or perhaps some of them escaped to the Colonials when the culling happened.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.04.09 00:01:00 -
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Actor who plays Starbuck clearly said her character was not the fifth.
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State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.09 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Icheckjitamarketlol on 09/04/2008 00:43:21
Originally by: Sephra Star
Edited by: Sephra Star on 05/04/2008 08:47:35
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 05/04/2008 02:31:12
Sephra, this would almost make an awful lot of sense if only the "Battlestar Galactica" storyline wouldn't be more or less the same as it was nearly 30 years ago.
So, unless you can come up with a cleverly twisted argument on how some conspiracy to invade Iraq and have it insinuated into the plotline of a cheezy TV show just so the "revival" of the show would coincide with events that would transpire several decades later, I call that pure and simple fantasy.
Battlestar: Iraqtica
Does the hit television show support the Iraqi insurgency?
Cylon majority
'Battlestar Galactica' focuses its third season on a parallel universe -- ours
Battlestar Galacticons
A close look at the right's scary affinity for sci-fi foreign policy punditry.
Please stop ****ting up every single damn thread in out of pod. We don't give a flying **** about whether or not the show is supposed to be analogous to the Iraqi conflict or not, we're here to discuss it, because it's a great damn show.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 01:05:00 -
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ATTN SEPHRA STAR:
This just in!
Make believe plots in tv shows sometimes parallel real world topics and events.
more at 11!
"one more spam thread will get you a warning.
- Thanks Hutch. "
isn't a warning of a warning a warning? or just a warning of a warning? didnt he just get 'the warning'?
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Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.04.09 01:30:00 -
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I'm gonna back Sephra on the fact that the first 4 episodes of season 3 are an allegory for the Iraq War.
On the other hand, it's pretty obvious that the humans are the Iraqis and the Cylons are the US. (And I'm American, so don't blow this out of proportion). So that really destroys your whole theory that it's propaganda for the NWO.
In short, Sephra, frak off.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Frezik
Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment
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Posted - 2008.04.09 02:22:00 -
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We won't see the final Cylon until they get to earth, because the final Cylon is Sephra!
You heard it here first.
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Minmatar
Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2008.04.09 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Frezik
We won't see the final Cylon until they get to earth, because the final Cylon is Sephra!
You heard it here first.
I love your corpname. It wins over "No Highs, No Lows, it must be BOSE"
I really, really hate that the 4 have been retconned in. I love this show way too much, but it really seemed to start losing the thread past the Tomb of Athena showing the star constellations...
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Amarr
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.04.09 12:57:00 -
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George Bush is the final cylon
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Moira Balick
Caldari
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.12 20:39:00 -
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"Dudes, the "final five" are not cylons at all. Though the Cylons have been led to believe they are. Events have been manipulated from the very start by some "behind the curtain" element. Lauras "visions", Baltars invisible friend, the mysterious "all along the watchtower" tune (i.e. why THAT song?) and many other clues exist to tell us that this is a tripartite struggle, not just cylon Vs human."
- Think that might just be something to that...
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Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.04.12 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 12/04/2008 21:19:54
The sieries stoped making sense a lnog time ago ... that is mein eyes. The producer is realy good at making moneh with the sieries.
Teh last Cylon is impossibel to guess. Just wait until mid-sieries first, heh? 
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Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
Scorched Earth.
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ok, after watching last night.. all i gotta say is:
who the **** are the original programmers???
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Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.04.12 21:32:00 -
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Havent seen series 3 yet, but my monies on Adama.
Cant remember names, but one of the cylons said to Roslyn before he was blown out the airlock.....
All the more interesting if he was telling the truth all along
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Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.04.12 21:52:00 -
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Since this is the last season I hope they finish it properly and have a really good ending. I'm sick of programs that pretty much don't have a proper ending or cop out completely.
Wouldn't surprise me if they arrive at the earth and its thousands of years ago, in our time, and they might be something like Atlantians.
I would prefer earth to be a humanoid Cylon planet though, I wouldn't mind having a fiftysome with boomer.
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Posted - 2008.04.12 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star
Edited by: Sephra Star on 05/04/2008 12:06:51
Classical conditioning and the æwar on terrorÆ
By Dr. Harry Davidson
Through violent programming on television and in movies, and through interactive point-and-shoot video games, western nations are indiscriminately introducing to their children the same weapons technology that major armies and law enforcement agencies around the world use to "turn off" the midbrain "safety catch" that Brigadier General S. L. A. Marshall discovered in World War II.
By saturating children with media violence as entertainment and then exposing them to interactive "point-and-shoot" arcade and video games, it has become increasingly clear that society is aping military conditioning
The observation that violence in the media is causing violence in our streets is nothing new. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Medical Association, and their equivalents in many other nations have all made unequivocal statements about the link between media violence and violence in our society. The APA, in their 1992 report Big World, Small Screen, concluded that the "scientific debate is over." And in 1993 the APA's commission on violence and youth concluded that "there is absolutely no doubt that higher levels of viewing violence on television are correlated with increased acceptance of aggressive attitudes and increased aggressive behavior." The evidence is quite simply overwhelming.
"Evolution of Weaponry"
The Role of Weapons Evolution in Domestic Violent Crime
Military Conditioning as Entertainment for Children
you still haven't commented on the fact that battlestar was written and aired 30 years ago.
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Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.04.12 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Elliot Reid
Since this is the last season I hope they finish it properly and have a really good ending. I'm sick of programs that pretty much don't have a proper ending or cop out completely.
Wouldn't surprise me if they arrive at the earth and its thousands of years ago, in our time, and they might be something like Atlantians.
I would prefer earth to be a humanoid Cylon planet though, I wouldn't mind having a fiftysome with boomer.
well if it's earth 1000 years ago then they will land on earth and then the cylon army will come and wipe us out because findearth didn't help them survive at all lol.
"we found earth! quick ask them to send up reinforcements!!"
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"sir they say they don't even have space tarvel yet...****"
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Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.04.12 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Toasted Trucker
YOU the viewer are the last cyclon!
HAAHHAHAHA
so the show will pull an earthbound ending?
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Nicky Rostu
Gallente
Fading Star Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.13 02:07:00 -
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Peri Stark
Gallente
Blue Labs
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.13 02:30:00 -
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Tom Zarek or the president. Leaning toward Zarek
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.13 03:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 13/04/2008 03:34:38
Felix Gaeta
In a different thread, I posted that there are only a few main character left that can be cylons. But - the last cylon, I do not think is a main character.
I think the last cylon model is that short guy that works on the bridge as the "Radar" guy, Felix Gaeta. Wasn't Felix Gaeta also on the bridge of the Galactia in the first episode when a cylon deive was discovered on the bridge? (or am I thinking of a different show?) In the first series, he was the one that discovered that the video of Baltar being in the planetary defense computers before the cylon attack was forged. A cyclon brought the video to accuse Baltar - so he would be vindicated and win trust. Felix did help the resistance, but that could have always been a part of his plan. Baltar was too wimpy to help the rebellion, so Felix had to do it to at least give the office some sort of good face whether it worked or not. Operating the navigation systems of the Galactica, also lets Felix let the Cylons know where the fleet is. I bet he has been protecting Baltar in some way, and helping the cylons throughout the whole story.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.04.13 04:17:00 -
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In the last episode it seems like a few of the cylon models were talking about the final five in almost a hero worship kind of way, like finding them was cause for celerbration.
It should be interesting to see what happens if/when they arrive on earth. I just hope they dont do something cheesy like fade out just as the combined cylon/human fleet approaches the planet and they make up the new human race.
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F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.04.13 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei
In the last episode it seems like a few of the cylon models were talking about the final five in almost a hero worship kind of way, like finding them was cause for celerbration.
It should be interesting to see what happens if/when they arrive on earth. I just hope they dont do something cheesy like fade out just as the combined cylon/human fleet approaches the planet and they make up the new human race.
I don't know that hero worship is the right way to say it. There's definitely a sense of awe surrounding who they are, but I think a lot of that comes from the fact they're programmed not to think about them. Also they committed some sin, so they're the mysteries bad boys of the Cylons.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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