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Neddy Fox
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Posted - 2008.04.05 11:19:00 -
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I don't get it tbh...
Running a normally safe route (3 nullsec jumps) in a shuttle, with 10 mill of salvage parts on board.. Didn't care if I would loose it.
But podding, instead of ransom? Why ? I mean, he would have made 100 mill easily. Now the only thing he has is 10 mill from which most was destroyed?
Q : What's the thing with pvp players saying they're always short on money, and then don't make enough by mindless podding?
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
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Posted - 2008.04.05 11:20:00 -
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Look, it's just easier ok?
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Posted - 2008.04.05 11:58:00 -
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I dont ransom, I'm not in it for the ISK
I like to squish things.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
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Posted - 2008.04.05 12:30:00 -
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If we were in it for the money, we'd be grinding L4 missions in highsec. We just like blowing things up.
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Narciss Sevar
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Posted - 2008.04.05 12:31:00 -
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I'm hoarding corpses for when they introduce the removal of said implants from the dead clone. :colbert:
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Ki An
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.04.05 13:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Neddy Fox
I don't get it tbh...
Running a normally safe route (3 nullsec jumps) in a shuttle, with 10 mill of salvage parts on board.. Didn't care if I would loose it.
But podding, instead of ransom? Why ? I mean, he would have made 100 mill easily. Now the only thing he has is 10 mill from which most was destroyed?
Q : What's the thing with pvp players saying they're always short on money, and then don't make enough by mindless podding?
Did you tell him you would pay 100 mil for keeping the pod? If not, why whine about it?
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Exlegion
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Posted - 2008.04.05 13:31:00 -
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Bookmark this thread. And when you see a whine thread on how pirating just isn't profitable link this page up. I reckon it should keep them quiet for atleast a few days.
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Ki An
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Posted - 2008.04.05 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion
Bookmark this thread. And when you see a whine thread on how pirating just isn't profitable link this page up. I reckon it should keep them quiet for atleast a few days.
No, much like you, us pirates like the sound of our own voices too much.
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Durzel
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.05 14:26:00 -
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I'm guessing the fact this thread exists is the payment.
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Morfane
The IMorral MAjority
Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.04.05 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion
Bookmark this thread. And when you see a whine thread on how pirating just isn't profitable link this page up. I reckon it should keep them quiet for atleast a few days.
I get the distinct feeling that you are generalizing an entire diverse group of people with this "them" business. That whole prejudgement thing is kind of icky to me, please take that elsewhere.
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Exlegion
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.05 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Morfane
Originally by: Exlegion
Bookmark this thread. And when you see a whine thread on how pirating just isn't profitable link this page up. I reckon it should keep them quiet for atleast a few days.
I get the distinct feeling that you are generalizing an entire diverse group of people with this "them" business. That whole prejudgement thing is kind of icky to me, please take that elsewhere.
If you think you make enough pirating then obviously my statement wasn't for you. The OP does make a point, as I experience it myself time and time again. If you can't see that then I can't help you.
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Neddy Fox
Hadean Drive Yards
Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.04.05 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Neddy Fox on 05/04/2008 14:59:38
Oh, it's absolutey not a whine. Then I would have been complaining how unfair it was to attack an unarmed vessel blabla :P
It was my own stupid fault, but I wondered just why he didnt try to make some cash out of it.. :P
Thing is, you never know what implants the pilot is using :)
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Euriti
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.04.05 15:15:00 -
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I like to blow stuff up.
I'm an explosion-a-holic.
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.04.05 15:26:00 -
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For me it depends on the age of the pilot, anyone under a year probably doesn't have any nice implants and if they do it's because they have bought ISK/GTC for ISK and would do the same again so a ransom is pointless. The players with the really good implants and skills know how not to be caught.
It's rare that I ransom a pod nowadays, ever since discovering that EvE had sound the squishing of a pod became addictive
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doctorstupid2
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.04.05 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Neddy Fox
Thing is, you never know what implants the pilot is using :)
Doesn't matter once he's podded.
Squish squish.
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Lithalnas
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.04.05 15:52:00 -
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depends on if im pressed for time, or under gate guns. Sometimes, if there are other war targets in local and there is the possibility of a trap, I will just pod and run.
If im takeing damage from gate guns, im not going to wait around for the whole ransom stuff, im going to pod and run.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.04.05 15:54:00 -
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i just like the squish sound. 
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WildTurkey
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Posted - 2008.04.05 16:21:00 -
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It depends on where i am and what time it is (how many people online near targets location) -
If you ransom the common thing people do is try and get time....
"I have no isk"
"I just spent all my isk on this ship"
"Just wait my friend needs to transfer me some isk"
We all know 99% of the time that this is a load of CRAP 
What it does do is give someone a chance to SCREAM into their Chat... HELP HELP HELP
You than have the chance of being a target your self (if your not careful)
Much better seeing the pod go 'POP' 
and move on to bigger and better loot
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Marcus TheMartin
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.04.05 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion
Bookmark this thread. And when you see a whine thread on how pirating just isn't profitable link this page up. I reckon it should keep them quiet for atleast a few days.
You make it seem like 100mill in pods just spawns on every gate. Pirating is a chance based occupation not a straight numbers thing. If your precious guristas rats ctrl+q'd when you entered the system then you could talk
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Eardianm
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Posted - 2008.04.05 17:12:00 -
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Too lazy to.
Maybe in high sec.
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Exlegion
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Posted - 2008.04.05 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Exlegion
Bookmark this thread. And when you see a whine thread on how pirating just isn't profitable link this page up. I reckon it should keep them quiet for atleast a few days.
You make it seem like 100mill in pods just spawns on every gate. Pirating is a chance based occupation not a straight numbers thing. If your precious guristas rats ctrl+q'd when you entered the system then you could talk
Marcus, you've written some very respectable posts in the past and I have no doubt you're an intelligent and sensible person. So you've got my attention.
What I'm saying is, and please feel free to disagree, pirates have an opportunity to bring back the true meaning of pirating into the game. Back in the days of pirating it was done with a purpose. Pirates were ruthless killers, but not dumb killing machines. They did it for the mula, plain and simple. Now I'm not saying it's wrong to kill for the sake of killing (in this game, obviously  ) or any of the other reasons mentioned in this thread. But you can't have it both ways. You can't go about killin' everything that moves and complain that pirating doesn't pay. It CAN pay if you play it smart. If you decide to do it for the "lulz" effect, then... Well, you see where I'm getting at?
The OP has a good point. I know that not every opportunity is a 100 million isk-making deal. But all you have to do is read the responses to the thread to see that pirates aren't even trying to make isk out of pirating. I know some do make a living out of it and do bother to ransom. But, and again feel free to disagree, I suspect that a huge chunk doesn't. And it's why the "pirating doesn't pay" posts sound a bit off to me.
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Marcus TheMartin
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Posted - 2008.04.05 17:59:00 -
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There are people that kill for killmails
There are people that kill for loot
Ransoming a shuttle scout with an intel channel and the point is moot.
we need a beatnik emote
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Alowishus
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.04.05 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 05/04/2008 18:13:19
As a general rule my corp and I like to ransom pods. We almost never ransom ships, however, it's too dangerous (and we like kill mails). There are several reasons we may not offer to ransom you.
1) The char is too young. Obviously we may miss two month old alts with +5 implants but the odds of an old timer sending his +5 implanted alt through known pirate systems is low, so we take our chances.
2) We need to get to another gate to kill someone else. We run scouts all over, we know who is coming into our system before they know it themselves. If we have your seven month old pod and there is a BS coming in at another gate the last thing we do before we warp out is squish you.
3) We think backup or other hostiles are en route. Pirates are a high strung lot, we get blobbed all the time. If we even have a whiff of a nearby blob, once again we're going to squish you before we warp out and regroup elsewhere.
4) And a million other reasons. Everything is situational. Despite what forum tards may want you to believe we're pretty intelligent and we weigh situations carefully.
In the end I think this thread is just a cleverly disguised whine. Next time say in local "100 mil for pod," if you really think you're worth a ransom. But you probably smacked him instead. *sigh*
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood
ANTHRAX DEATH
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Posted - 2008.04.05 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Havohej on 05/04/2008 18:19:58
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Look, it's just easier ok?
ROFL
Originally by: Marcus
we need a beatnik emote
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.05 18:32:00 -
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If you'd give him 100 mil, how much would you lose in implants? 200 mil+ ? If so, then podding is totally worth it. More damages = more fun hehehe
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Havohej
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Posted - 2008.04.05 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar
If you'd give him 100 mil, how much would you lose in implants? 200 mil+ ? If so, then podding is totally worth it. More damages = more fun hehehe
Eh... I'd agree with this IF the killmail from a podding showed the implants that were destroyed, so that you can actually SEE that you did 'more (isk) damages'. IF the killer cares about isk at all, that is. But then, if the killer did care about ISK, he likely would've ransomed his victim to actually have isk in his wallet, rather than on a killmail.
For those that don't care about isk and just want to kill things, then yeah, absolutely.
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harkan Sek
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.04.05 20:04:00 -
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dude, you¦re 5 months old and you still have to ask why people pop you without ransoming?!
there is like a million reasons
and no i cant be arsed to give one, you can figure it out slowly yourself, its not rocket science tbh
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Corstaad
Vardr ok Lidskjalv
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Posted - 2008.04.05 20:05:00 -
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Are you really that stupid to tell us what your implants are worth and what system you go to?
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New
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.06 03:45:00 -
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Does anyone have a link to the squishing sound?
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Scoundrelus
Dark Tornado
Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2008.04.06 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion
Bookmark this thread. And when you see a whine thread on how pirating just isn't profitable link this page up. I reckon it should keep them quiet for atleast a few days.
Nobody complains about piracy being unprofitable. Everyone is warned from the start that you will die a lot and lose a lot of isk. What people DO complain about is the lack of targets in low sec. Not because they want to extort those targets for isk, but rather the fact that they want to blow them up.
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