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Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2008.04.08 13:41:00 - [31] This is yet another time a topic like this has come up. Every time it has, there's been one of the following outcomes. A) Op has been daft and not realised buying ISK is against the EULA. B) Op has recieved bought ISK from a friend and not realised it's against the EULA. C) Op has recieved bought ISK from a friend not realising it was bought, and the friend lied. Later it was found the friend's account had been banned for isk buying/selling. D) Op recieved bought isk somehow, denied it, insisted his friend was innocent and escalated it. Further investigation revealed that CCP hadn't looked into it as much as they should've... as a result they were *able to implicate MORE people involved in the situation*. Net effect, more people got isk pulled, and more people got banned. I can't be bothered searching for the topics where these situations happened, but trust me. Search the forums for "GM isk removing" and you'll see all the proof you need. You got ISK removed, but you won't get my sympathy because precendents are on CCPs side. Improve Market Competition!
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.08 13:50:00 - [32] Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/04/2008 13:51:00 Originally by: Kylar Renpurs B) Op has recieved bought ISK from a friend and not realised it's against the EULA. C) Op has recieved bought ISK from a friend not realising it was bought, and the friend lied. Later it Why a GM should punish me for receiving isk other one bought? a GM have to punish the guy who bought the isk directly. ________________________________________
Tchell Dahhn Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.08 13:52:00 - [33] Originally by: Kerdrak Why a GM should punish me for receiving isk other one bought? a GM would ban to the guy who bought the isk. If you received forged monies in RL, the FBI would arrest the perpetrators, and then relieve you of the ill-gotten loot. Now offering Scanning Services for that 'hard to find' Mission Runner! Convo in-game for details!
Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.04.08 13:54:00 - [34] Edited by: Darwin Duck on 08/04/2008 13:55:02 They didn't ban him, only shows how much they love our 15 USD/Euro a month. Or maybe they have banned him now since he doesn't post a reply here trying to lie his way out of this mess. Well at least they do something. If you take the risk GM thakes yur isk
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.08 13:55:00 - [35] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Kerdrak Why a GM should punish me for receiving isk other one bought? a GM would ban to the guy who bought the isk. If you received forged monies in RL, the FBI would arrest the perpetrators, and then relieve you of the ill-gotten loot. Well, comparating EVE and RL: if you kill a guy in RL you end in jail. ________________________________________
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.08 13:55:00 - [36] Perhaps the OP should read the latest dev blog. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7)
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:02:00 - [37] Originally by: Tarminic Perhaps the OP should read the latest dev blog. Thanks, I didn't realize of it. Quote: If the illegally bought ISK has been spent, then the wallets will simply be put in the negative :) ________________________________________
Tchell Dahhn Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:04:00 - [38] Originally by: Kerdrak Well, comparating EVE and RL: if you kill a guy in RL you end in jail. Not if he stole your jetcan full of ore. Now offering Scanning Services for that 'hard to find' Mission Runner! Convo in-game for details!
ry ry StateCorp Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:05:00 - [39] so if you can transfer billions of isk to somebody, slowly and without them noticing, you can eventually petition them and leave them several billion in the hole, and effectively ****** without a rich friend to bail them out? ATTENTION ISK BUYERS. PLEASE ALL SEND JENNY SPITFIRE 1 MILLION ISK A MONTH FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
AltBier Blue. Blue Federation	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:34:00 - [40] LOL, why does everyone hate JENNY SPITFIRE.
ry ry StateCorp Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:39:00 - [41] she's an easy target :(
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:41:00 - [42] Quote: Why a GM should punish me for receiving isk other one bought? a GM have to punish the guy who bought the isk directly. One of my mates plays EVE. I could buy a GTC, grab a new character, buy a whole bunch of isk and throw it to him. Or heck, myself on my credit-card account. CCP still wouldn't know who owned the account. Most likely scenario is that the character whom received the ISK is somehow affiliated back to the purchasing source. Throwaway alts (and accounts w/GTCs bought with ISK) mean that in any situation involving the transfer of dirty isk, all parties are guilty, unless you can really prove you had nothing to do with it. How do you prove you had nothing to do with it? (before the screams of "So isk sellers can just dump isk on someone and get it removed?") Having the ISK removed is only an issue if you spend it. If you recieve a large amount of "out of the ordinary" isk from a character named "alkfhsis124asd" I'd be reporting it ASAP to a GM. Improve Market Competition!
Kolmogorow Freedom Resources	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:51:00 - [43] Originally by: coolie oberon There was no note of explanation Really hard to believe. There is always a possibility of a mistake. Taking money without giving a reason is simply a theft. Originally by: coolie oberon "pray we do not investigate further" In other words: The GM wasn't even sure whether his action was justified. You could bring CCP to court because they restricted you to play the game for the money you pay (unless the EULA allows something like this, then the EULA has at least one very bad paragraph obviously).
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.04.08 14:57:00 - [44] Originally by: Kolmogorow Originally by: coolie oberon "pray we do not investigate further" In other words: The GM wasn't even sure whether his action was justified. You could bring CCP to court because they restricted you to play the game for the money you pay (unless the EULA allows something like this, then the EULA has at least one very bad paragraph obviously). More like, the GM was fairly convinced that if they were to investigate further, enough reasons for a BAN would surface. As for the second part... the EULA pretty much states that CCP can simply terminate any account at any given time, even without having to give a reason at all. Didn't you EVER read the EULA ? Were this a bar or club, it would have said "we reserve the right to pick our customers", as simple as that. And since ALL "virtual belongings" inside EVE don't actually belong to you, but to CCP... you only LEASING the right to use them... there's no "attackable" point, legally. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Save You Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:03:00 - [45] I had the same thing happen to me today, last night I logged in for the first time after coming back from deployment, everything is good to go, my measly 110mil still safe and sound. I log in this morning and I'm at -1.8 billion. Now, I know I haven't bought any isk. Thats kind of hard when I haven't had an internet connection in months. I bought the character on the forums before I left, so maybe the previous guy did? This raises the question: "Can I be held accountable for the previous owners actions?" After I paid $20 to have the character sent to me? I was hoping to have this game still after my next deployment in about a month, but now I'm thinking my beta-till-now payments of 14.95 a month are going to end if they think telling me I'm lucky they don't investigate more is a reasonable answer.
4 Hire Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:08:00 - [46] Edited by: 4 Hire on 08/04/2008 15:09:52 why does every freeking thread have to involve... OMG take ccp to court omg!!!! Look nothing that goes on in game can be reason to sue CCP as the EULA and common sense comes up in the fact they own the game and everything in it and you have no say in its management. Unless they fraudulently charge your credit card or bill you illegally no player has any action they can take legally against CCP for any circumstance! Why? because no matter what the EULA; and any other "implied" agreements that you may not even know you agreed to; will apply which makes them exempt from legal action. So for the love of MINMATAR!!!! YOU CANT SUE CCP!!! PS On another note I did just get my credit card dispute back from SOE in the amount of $15.89 for their illegal billing of my card. So if your that upset your best bet is to just dispute your credit card bill from CCP and that is taken care of on a legal basis and if your denied you have no legal claim. If its credited back well good for you hope you don't plan on playing anymore anyway =)
Ki Anna Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:10:00 - [47] Edited by: Ki Anna on 08/04/2008 15:10:14 Originally by: Kerdrak Why a GM should punish me for receiving isk other one bought? a GM have to punish the guy who bought the isk directly. Anti-laundering clause: If you recieve a huge cash gift from a friend who happens to be a drug dealer, you should not be too suprised if the legal system gives you a hard time. If you recieve a large ISK gift from someone, you better make sure that it is from a clean source. In the very least, make sure that you recieved it from someone's main, and not a random alt. Otherwise, you will have a hard time establishing that you were not in fact the purchaser of the ISK, the the person who sent it to you acting only as a middle man.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:12:00 - [48] Originally by: Save You I had the same thing happen to me today, last night I logged in for the first time after coming back from deployment, everything is good to go, my measly 110mil still safe and sound. I log in this morning and I'm at -1.8 billion. Now, I know I haven't bought any isk. Thats kind of hard when I haven't had an internet connection in months. I bought the character on the forums before I left, so maybe the previous guy did? This raises the question: "Can I be held accountable for the previous owners actions?" After I paid $20 to have the character sent to me? I was hoping to have this game still after my next deployment in about a month, but now I'm thinking my beta-till-now payments of 14.95 a month are going to end if they think telling me I'm lucky they don't investigate more is a reasonable answer. It's most likely that whoever sold you the character purchased ISK with it and then laundered it, knowing that the character would eventually be caught and the ISK removed. Petition this - explain that you purchased the character and that you have not used it until recently. Link the forum post regarding it's sale and purchase, if possible produce information regarding the character transfer (never done it so I don't know if there's a transaction ID or anything) and generally let them know that the character in question has only been in your possession for a short amount of time. Be nice about it though - otherwise they'll be less inclined to help you ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7)
Durzel State War Academy	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:15:00 - [49] Originally by: Darwin Duck Edited by: Darwin Duck on 08/04/2008 13:55:02 They didn't ban him, only shows how much they love our 15 USD/Euro a month. Or maybe they have banned him now since he doesn't post a reply here trying to lie his way out of this mess. Well at least they do something. If you take the risk GM thakes yur isk Being -400 million odd in the hole is as good as being banned to be honest. Pretty much no way out of that short of re-rolling of having a very understanding corp to bail you out.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:15:00 - [50] Edited by: Akita T on 08/04/2008 15:16:24 Originally by: Save You After I paid $20 to have the character sent to me? See, another "illegality". The original owner of the account should have paid the 20$, not you. Originally by: Durzel Being -400 million odd in the hole is as good as being banned to be honest. Pretty much no way out of that short of re-rolling of having a very understanding corp to bail you out. 30$, a GTC retail site, and a couple of minutes in the forum, and no more problems. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Durzel State War Academy	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:16:00 - [51] Originally by: Kolmogorow You could bring CCP to court because they restricted you to play the game for the money you pay (unless the EULA allows something like this, then the EULA has at least one very bad paragraph obviously). Ahahahahaha... armchair lawyers FTL. Maybe he could bring a class action lawsuit?!?
Durzel State War Academy	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:17:00 - [52] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 08/04/2008 15:16:24 Originally by: Save You After I paid $20 to have the character sent to me? See, another "illegality". The original owner of the account should have paid the 20$, not you. Originally by: Durzel Being -400 million odd in the hole is as good as being banned to be honest. Pretty much no way out of that short of re-rolling of having a very understanding corp to bail you out. 30$, a GTC retail site, and a couple of minutes in the forum, and no more problems. True, didn't think of that
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:17:00 - [53] Originally by: Kolmogorow You could bring CCP to court because they restricted you to play the game for the money you pay (unless the EULA allows something like this, then the EULA has at least one very bad paragraph obviously). You should really just stop posting about this. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7)
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:23:00 - [54] Originally by: Kolmogorow Originally by: coolie oberon There was no note of explanation Really hard to believe. There is always a possibility of a mistake. Taking money without giving a reason is simply a theft. Except it isn't real money, and it all belongs to CCP in the end anyway.

CCP Prism X C C P	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:23:00 - [55] I like these threads, they provide me with interesting logs to read when I'm bored. Seriously, if you know you're totally innocent and did everything by the book; You should escalate a petition to a senior GM. He'll go over the entirity of your logs and take actions accordingly. ~ Prism X EvE Database Developer Relocating your character to a cozy, secure container since 2006

4 Hire Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:26:00 - [56] LOL prism you have time to be board? WTF!!!! With all these whines don't you have like 3x10^200 changes to make every day just to have them repealed with a counter change the next day by more whiners A dev with bored down time... HAHAHAHAHA
Tim Dust The Scope	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:26:00 - [57] CCP killed my hamster.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:27:00 - [58] Originally by: 4 Hire LOL prism you have time to be board? WTF!!!! With all these whines don't you have like 3x10^200 changes to make every day just to have them repealed with a counter change the next day by more whiners A dev with bored down time... HAHAHAHAHA You should also stop posting, methinks. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7)
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:41:00 - [59] Originally by: 4 Hire Twas a bit of sarcasm sigh I would feel embarrassed, but I've seen real posts worse than that. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7)
4 Hire Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.04.08 15:42:00 - [60] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: 4 Hire Twas a bit of sarcasm sigh I would feel embarrassed, but I've seen real posts worse than that. you lose 4m SP in forum warfare!

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