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Kale Kold	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:18:00 - [1] 1 v 1 between a Megathron and a Rokh - who would win? Say two pilots had identical skills and both ships where setup to use neutron blasters and to tank as good as poss with the space left, who would win in a duel. I reckon the Rokh with its superior tanking ability would just outlast the onslaught from the mega's guns just long enough to win. What do you reckon? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Gixian	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:21:00 - [2] Edited by: Gixian on 09/04/2008 08:21:26 in the duel are points required? start distance?
Phoenicia	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:24:00 - [3] It'd be close. The +tank from the Rokh, when compared to the Mega, would be equal to the -gank. I.e. where the Rokh would tank 300 dps more, the Mega would do 300 dps more. The Rokh's best bet would be to use it's superior blaster range and try to stay at 15km. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:24:00 - [4] I reckon that the smarter pilot would win, the one that DIDN'T use neutron blasters. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Zingu	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:37:00 - [5] The one that cheats the other and bring his friends into the fray. If not that the fight would never happen as most Caldari boats are not made to 1v1. There is no viable solo blaster setup for the Rokh. The Megathron has the edge as the Rokh can't really tank after you add web, scram, mwd and a cap booster, the increased range doesn't mean anything other than one extra volley.
Kale Kold	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:38:00 - [6] Originally by: Gixian Edited by: Gixian on 09/04/2008 08:21:26 in the duel are points required? start distance? No points Start distance: 1km Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Kravick Drasari	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:41:00 - [7] Originally by: Tzar'rim I reckon that the smarter pilot would win, the one that DIDN'T use neutron blasters. Whats wrong with neutron blasters? --- My cat Putter approves of this post. Be a Ninja! You know you want too: http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?Kravick
Cosmar	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:42:00 - [8] The Mega would win. I love my Meguchan :3
Phoenicia	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:44:00 - [9] Originally by: Kale Kold No points Start distance: 1km Mega wins. Start at 20, agree that whoever warps loses (i.e. no disruptors needed) and it'd be a different story. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Gixian	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:45:00 - [10] since no points and no need to close distance then its definatly the rohk
Ralara	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:48:00 - [11] The Rokh has the better tank, the Mega has the better DPS. The mega can also fit 5x Ogre IIs, the Rokh can only manage medium drones. I fly a blaster Rokh sometimes. It's a nice ship. The DPS however is not great. It's the best the Caldari can come up with, though, and I do feel "safe" in it. On overload, all the resists are over 80%. One thing - it has, I think, not quite as good cap as the Mega. It's also slow as hell, and the Mega in this case could orbit it - the Rokh has no tracking bonus whereas the Mega has tracking and damage - I can see the Mega orbitting at 500 and getting wrecking hits whilst the Rokh wont. Eventually the cap boosters will run out and the mega will win imo. It would not be fast however - 10 minutes is my guess. -- Ralara / Ralarina
Gixian	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:53:00 - [12] and why not fit a few heavy NOS to keep the rohks cap up while causeing the mega too burn through theres faster
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.04.09 09:12:00 - [13] Edited by: Tzar''rim on 09/04/2008 09:12:24 Originally by: Kravick Drasari Originally by: Tzar'rim I reckon that the smarter pilot would win, the one that DIDN'T use neutron blasters. Whats wrong with neutron blasters? Neutron mega can't fit a cap booster, 2 reps and an MWD, that's what's wrong with it. People should stop playing EFT-ofline, or actually... they shouldn't. Gives me more targets. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.04.09 09:46:00 - [14] The rokh loses because the pilot is a carebear, he cant even use the guns on the ship so he is pretty screwed. All these stupid variables (no warpouts honorz duel! start at 30km!! full midslots for tanks!) are pointless. Go on the test server if you really care, you will quickly find that bringing a friend is the best plan.
Tuberider Caldari Pothouse Cartel	Posted - 2008.04.09 09:55:00 - [15] depends on how you tank the mega its easily possible to give it 60k+ in armor with 60 % resists + 7 nuetron 2's i'd like to see the rokh beat that before it melts
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.09 09:57:00 - [16] Rokh wins easilly. 5 slot shield tank with resist bonus is a crazy amount of tank. The dps of the mega won't be much higher because it probably wont fit 3 dmg mods(or if it does it has a pitiful tank) where as the rokh can easilly do so. The 25% tanking bonus> 25% damage bonus. 25% more resists=75% damage taken=33.3% more tank. Where as the 25% damage bonus is only 7*1.25/8(rokh has an extra gun remember?)=9.3% more dps. The 2 heavy drone's worth of difference won't make up for that massive discrepency, or the fact that shield tanking is superior than armor tanking when you don't have to worry about tackle, or the fact that the rokh can tank and gank at the same time, where as the mega has to choose a balance between the two. Ralara, tracking does not affect quality of hits.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.04.09 10:06:00 - [17] ecm drones would win
Jelena Jinx Gallente Northen Breeze	Posted - 2008.04.09 10:25:00 - [18] id say it would be very close.. as a mega cant have a tank whit neutrons (only hp buffer) while a rokh can have a 1k dps tank and around 900dps+ damage.
Twin blade Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.09 10:41:00 - [19] I think it come's down to luck on who get's better hit's the mega tracking bonus don't mean it will hit better just more. I would still bet on the Rokh due to the insane tank if it don't need to web and jam.
Lt Angus Caldari Wicked Crew	Posted - 2008.04.09 10:48:00 - [20] Edited by: Lt Angus on 09/04/2008 10:55:37 Rokh, could probably take 2 megas at once and active tank rokhs???? why?
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.09 11:10:00 - [21] Edited by: Buxaroo on 09/04/2008 11:10:45 Originally by: Tzar'rim Edited by: Tzar''rim on 09/04/2008 09:12:24 Neutron mega can't fit a cap booster, 2 reps and an MWD, that's what's wrong with it. People should stop playing EFT-ofline, or actually... they shouldn't. Gives me more targets. The mega would win though. I can fly both completely T2 fitted but I hate the Rohk. Megathron for the win. With BS level 5 the tracking bonus is so worth it. More hits = more damage. Rohk only has one thing going for it and that's range.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.09 11:16:00 - [22] I too recon the Rokh would win, using T2 gear only. It simply has too much tank to be overcome by even a gank mega (1200dps, and more to kin/the specific!), and it's medium drones will shred the mega's heavies. Yes i know i spelled COAD wrong. Stop mailing me about it I refuse to read SHC
Tuberider Caldari Pothouse Cartel	Posted - 2008.04.09 11:20:00 - [23] Same can fly both t2 and i hate the rokh it hits like a wet sponge(maybe its ok for npcing) Thron Thron Thron always Can't afford the ransom ? We do accept poems in local for those short on isky, Subject of our choice
Lord Zoran House of Tempers	Posted - 2008.04.09 11:36:00 - [24] Edited by: Lord Zoran on 09/04/2008 11:37:31 rokh.
Rook Highwind Miners-R-us	Posted - 2008.04.09 11:50:00 - [25] Rokh for sheer awesome. It's been my favourite ship since I entered EVE, and it probably always will be, at least until they release it's black-painted tech2 big brother ______________________________________ ~Newbing up the place since 6/12/2007~
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2008.04.09 11:51:00 - [26] 1 Rokh vs 1 Megathron: I'd bet on the Rokh (tank beats gank) 2 Rokhs vs 2 Megathrons: I'd bet on the megathrons (gank beats tank). 20 Rokhs vs 20 megathrons: Rokhs all the way (240km happy fun time) Of course it depends on gear and starting distance and a whole slew of other factors. If the Rokh for example has a Domi web and the Megathron doesn't. Then the Rokh has a severe advantage. If they start out at 1km, then the megathron has a distinct advantage since it out-tracks, out-DPSs and can use its mids for E-war. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Zephyr Rengate Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.04.09 11:54:00 - [27] Well they are both very good ships, so i guess its down to the how the pilots fly them to there advantage.
The Judge D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.09 12:07:00 - [28] Rokh would win in my opinion. It will simply out tank the mega and slowly kill it.
DARTHxFREE Double Indemnity	Posted - 2008.04.09 12:12:00 - [29] The way I see it, the Rokh don't really stand a chance becuz we need MWD/Web/Disrupter so...It don't have an awsome tank. no MWD means the oponent can flee no Web, tracking problems with a 500m orbit from the megaT no Disrupter/scrm same problem as MWD Also if no cap-injector, the use of heavy EC or EV drones on the MegaT would out last the passive cap on the Rokh /join Cheeze & Whine Club
Gavin Darklighter THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.04.09 12:33:00 - [30] Flown well the neutron rokh fit with web and point will kill a neutron mega. The price the Rokh pays for this advantage is the lack of an MWD, and the requirement of low-grade crystals.

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