well kodavor, we enjoyed contesting ISN. but noble ranger is a bit paranoid now i think.
i dont have a problem flying in your fleets when we dont have a fleet up and running.
he told me that he wont invite me into ISN fleets anymore because i steal ISN tactics...

strangely enough that happend one day after DIN prevented that ISN makes Iskies for over 2 hours.

the next day we encountered an ISN fleet with 23 pilots instead of 20. contesting us. at this point i was pretty sure, that our strategy flying assaults is different to ISN strats. because we won against ISN with a complete different fleet setup. of course we lost the 20 vs 23 contest. but if that is the only answer on a fair contest by ISN, do you really call that a strategy? overpopulation sites?

yes i know, we warped 2 weeks later in a OCF with 23 on grid while ISN was inside for about 60 seconds with 17 pilots and we lost that contest. thats on my faultlist because i took the fleet in front of the gate as ISN and i dont see that ISN was already inside :) happens from time to time.

finally i wanna say, that i always enjoyed the fair contests against ISN. Too sad that today ISN just pull more pilots into the contests to make sure that they win. Obviously your strategy ISN't that good if you cant counter a normal 20 pilot fleet.

How likely am i to get accepted in a Non-faction Battleship with less pimping, assuming T2 guns and such? I am very interested in flying with you guys, but the idea of bringing a 2 billion isk Vindicator with only minor tanking along with people i don't know, Logi pilots i don't know, and FC's i don't know, makes me a little apprehensive about the whole deal.

Liscius Uta, ISN dont ask for the faction mods, if u cant afford u can go with t2. Altho the faction/deadspace mods are like an goal!

Not a requirement, do your homework before u comment something or u will get trolled most of the times!

While I'm not a fan of ISN and their elitist attitude - they won't let you in a fleet if you fly a T1 BS, their "recommended" fittings consist mainly of faction modules worth more than a pirate battleship in total (I mean, do I really need a Shadow Serpentis sensor booster?) and when I tried to join with a Vindi, they wanted me to switch to Railguns even though in Vanguards everything but Mara is within optimal+faloff of a Blaster Vindi, but kudos to them for standing up against Incursion bullies and taking out the mom on their own. I don't like when someone decides that you should not take out the mom without their permission, it's not much different than saying you cannot mine without permission.

Hmmm, that's hard to believe.
I've been flying with ISN for the last 3 days, and all i needed was a shield Pirate BS with T2 guns, and that was it.
No one made fit faction/dead-space mods.

Faction and other stuff it's a fit you aim for, in time. You don't need it

They said "IF you can fit T2, you're Golden"

After 3 days with ISN, I have to say I'm loving it. 5 stars and hat's off to them.
Will continue to use this service/product.

Liscius Uta, ISN dont ask for the faction mods, if u cant afford u can go with t2. Altho the faction/deadspace mods are like an goal!

Not a requirement, do your homework before u comment something or u will get trolled most of the times!

No it's not a requirement - I really never claimed that it is, but it is something you'll find in ISN list of fittings...and here you are saying yourself that those mods are a goal.

Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems.

When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults.




Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure.

ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders.

ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here.

If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature.




The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below.




Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB.







ISN Does Mothership SItes? http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg

I heard someone say that ISN are a bunch of elitist assholes.

This can't be further from the truth, they are an awesome bunch of guys and they will go out of their way to help people get in their fleets and teach them if they are total newbs at incursions.

I now name all my ships ISN "Ship name" to suport them.

+1

T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%

Curious...what T3 cruisers do you guys actually allow in fleet? Last I'd checked even the loki webber was losing popularity.

Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems.

When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults.




Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure.

ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders.

ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here.

If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature.




The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below.




Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB.







ISN Does Mothership SItes? http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg

I heard someone say that ISN are a bunch of elitist assholes.

This can't be further from the truth, they are an awesome bunch of guys and they will go out of their way to help people get in their fleets and teach them if they are total newbs at incursions.

I now name all my ships ISN "Ship name" to suport them.

+1

Standard :

Assautls - 6 sites per hour ( 109,2mil ) 20 Pilots on grid

Vanguards - 10 sites per hour ( 87.8 mil ) 12 Pilots on grid


Optimal circumstances:

Assaults - 8 sites per hour ( 145.9 mil )

Vanguards - 13 sites per hour ( 114.14 mil )

Out of curiosity, what are the isk/h figures looking like for you guys? I'd like a steady and consistent figure - comparable to let's say a sentry carrier doing Sanctums for 110-140 M / hour (bad case, good case).

Approx. the same BUT:
1) If you have proper logistics and are not asleep chances of dying are very low.
2) Still, both in Incursions and Nullsec you've got to be very vigilant. In Incursions watch out for NPC aggro while in nullsec monitor secure channel.
3) It can take up to several hours to assemble a fleet. In incursions you depend on others. In Sanctums YOU decide when to farm and what to farm.
4) The best point about incursions is that you can relax and talk about life with fleet members. Relax, chat, earn ISK, train fleet combat skills. This does not apply to shiny fleets tho.

Zwo after telling you 2 times to stop backseat FC'ing the fleet I gave up. Then the fleet members told you to stop backseat FC'ing and you chose to ignore them, and continued. Pretty sure you knew a boot was comming, if not, then your thicker than I thought.