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Herr Ronin
R.O.I.N
16
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Posted - 2012.02.26 23:49:00 -
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What is ISN?
Incursion Shiny Network the arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion vanguard sites.
Will I Lose My 4.5 Bill Mach?
ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander.
Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?
The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise.
How Does ISN Benefit Me?
ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's.
Hosted Teamspeak 3
23/7 Active Fleets
Fitting Advise
Fleet Commander Training
Legion Fleets
Sleipnir Fleets
ISN Requirments:
Machariels/Nightmares: T2 guns, all resistances above 70%
Vindicator: T2 Railguns, all resistances above 70%
Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, sufficient tank
Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, sufficient tank
If you would like to join ISN:
Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel.
If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management:
Herr Ronin
Noble Ranger
Hennie79
Method
Fly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With "Shiny Fleets Only" SFO |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
3
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Posted - 2012.02.26 23:54:00 -
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Confirmed . |

Herr Ronin
R.O.I.N
16
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Posted - 2012.02.26 23:57:00 -
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Kodavor wrote:Confirmed .
You allways have been a man of many words :D |

Demus DaVet
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
0
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Posted - 2012.02.26 23:58:00 -
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Great Community, Great guys and gals, Great FC's to fly with, and a Great bunch to FC for.
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spottington
StarFleet Enterprises RED.Legion
1
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Posted - 2012.02.27 00:15:00 -
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Definately accurate.
Release the Ponies of war. |

Herr Ronin
R.O.I.N
16
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Posted - 2012.02.27 00:20:00 -
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spottington wrote:Definately accurate.
Release the Ponies of war.
That i shall...  |

LePak Muule
Tax Evade Are US
2
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Posted - 2012.02.27 00:50:00 -
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Very solid community.
Whatever you do, please don't use t1 ammo... or even try to lie about your fits.
Ship scanning fcs are known to frequent this channel ^.^v |

york l
Corsairs Inc. RED.Legion
1
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Posted - 2012.02.27 01:16:00 -
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Substantia Nigra
NFI industrial Revival Of The Talocan Empire
549
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Posted - 2012.02.27 01:18:00 -
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So, how does this thread differ from a previous similarly titled one ... that since changed its name to 'retired' (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67987)?
Hafta say I found that one very confusing but understood it to be some sort of pony-shagging incursion griefing effort. Perhaps I misread it ... but there does seem to have been a fair bit of direction change in the original posting. Whatever ISN may or may not be, I think weird has to figure somewhere in the description.
Me? I reckon I'd avoid you, like the plague, if I were out there in incursion-land ... but then I may just have part of the story. We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Herr Ronin
R.O.I.N
16
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Posted - 2012.02.27 01:19:00 -
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York.. Don't make me link that vid... |
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Herr Ronin
R.O.I.N
16
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Posted - 2012.02.27 01:23:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote:So, how does this thread differ from a previous similarly titled one ... that since changed its name to 'retired' (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67987)?
Hafta say I found that one very confusing but understood it to be some sort of pony-shagging incursion griefing effort. Perhaps I misread it ... but there does seem to have been a fair bit of direction change in the original posting. Whatever ISN may or may not be, I think weird has to figure somewhere in the description.
Me? I reckon I'd avoid you, like the plague, if I were out there in incursion-land ... but then I may just have part of the story.
Yes, There has been alot of confusion, Alot of drama, ISN is under new managment due to the original owner, Scammed the channel and its members, Including myself, Like i said, Myself and three other people are making sure this community stays online, It is a very solid and warm community to incursion run in.
If you wish to avoid us, Then feel free, Regarding to the old forum posts, ignore them.
Also, Less on the pony hating.. |

york l
Corsairs Inc. RED.Legion
1
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Posted - 2012.02.27 01:27:00 -
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Love you to ronin <3 |

chris 3051
Crimson Empire. Nulli Secunda
4
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Posted - 2012.02.27 01:30:00 -
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I Heard you guys run 12 man fleets to beat SSN . MIND explaining why you guys do that ?     |

Herr Ronin
R.O.I.N
16
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Posted - 2012.02.27 01:36:00 -
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If you took notice, SSN run 12 on grid, The reason we do this is to beat any contests, Another thing, With 12 on grid you get a better isk per hour than 11 on grid.
Its a system that works very well and has had no complaints.
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york l
Corsairs Inc. RED.Legion
1
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Posted - 2012.02.27 01:43:00 -
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Dark Nemesis called you a sore loser :P Also we run 11 But i mean Ewwww ISN i'd never be seen in one of those fleets..... (looks around shiftily) |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
448
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Posted - 2012.02.27 04:26:00 -
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york l wrote:Dark Nemesis called you a sore loser :P Also we run 11 But i mean Ewwww ISN i'd never be seen in one of those fleets..... (looks around shiftily)
I don't ever recall running 12 on grid during my time in ISN.
Great network, sorry to hear about the scam troubles of recent times, glad to see that the group has picked up and persisted. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1199
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Posted - 2012.02.27 05:09:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote:So, how does this thread differ from a previous similarly titled one ... that since changed its name to 'retired' ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67987)? Hafta say I found that one very confusing but understood it to be some sort of pony-shagging incursion griefing effort. Perhaps I misread it ... but there does seem to have been a fair bit of direction change in the original posting. Whatever ISN may or may not be, I think weird has to figure somewhere in the description. Me? I reckon I'd avoid you, like the plague, if I were out there in incursion-land ... but then I may just have part of the story. I have to agree with this.
It's really strange seeing all these Incursion recruitment threads right after Darius posted his 'Killing Mothership and ganking Incursion runners' thread.
Especially since these Incursion recruitment threads don't have a very long shelf life. |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
3
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Posted - 2012.02.27 08:05:00 -
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Who is Darius ? What is grid ? ... and can I join SSN ? |

Diamond Pendant
The Arcani Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.02.27 15:28:00 -
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ISN is safe. I had to get screened to become a logi. All other logi i have flown with are amazing. Once a logi dc'd but due to the required fits and the quality of the pilots the fleet barely noticed. ISN always win.
Darius is a griefer who has been popping MOMs to end incursions and they sometimes gank incursion fleets. It is a hazard. I have had no problems but know people who have.
ISN did have some difficulties with the old head bloke but he has gone, so things are good. |

fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:22:00 -
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this darius, does it drop good loot?  |
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Herr Ronin
R.O.I.N
16
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:28:00 -
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fuer0n wrote:this darius, does it drop good loot? 
I hope he does.. |

fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:36:00 -
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i know me1st drops nice stuff...........
edit anyway enough of my trolling, off to play some killing floor. and if dust514 comes anywhere close in gameplay to that game they are onto a winner  |

Herr Ronin
R.O.I.N
16
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Posted - 2012.02.27 20:33:00 -
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fuer0n wrote:i know me1st drops nice stuff........... edit anyway enough of my trolling, off to play some killing floor. and if dust514 comes anywhere close in gameplay to that game they are onto a winner 
May i have Ninja the loots? XD |

fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2012.02.27 21:10:00 -
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Herr Ronin wrote:fuer0n wrote:i know me1st drops nice stuff........... edit anyway enough of my trolling, off to play some killing floor. and if dust514 comes anywhere close in gameplay to that game they are onto a winner  May i have Ninja the loots? XD
goonfleet alts.
and **** at incursions i might add.
even worse at pvp. |

MR Rhy
Leipreachan
1
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Posted - 2012.02.27 21:13:00 -
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ISN car insurance is unbeatable 2 for 1 offer....... oh wait they run incursions well that's a different story then 
These guys have done away with the old leader who spent his days as eve's first and hopefully last transcriber of the longest channel moto's in eve history. no wonder he was so stupid to only bunk with 2.5bill 
on a serious note very good community with no leaders etc asking for isk from pilots [unless services rendered] screening allows for community peace of mind no wonder its the place for 0.0 players to come hang out to make quick isk before log in there super alts Gÿ+ for pew pew  |

fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
75
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Posted - 2012.02.27 21:44:00 -
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quick isk you say:P i may apply with an alt soon. wasnt overly impressed last time. |

Herr Ronin
R.O.I.N
16
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Posted - 2012.02.27 22:18:00 -
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What didn't impress you, If you don't mind me asking?
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Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
3
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Posted - 2012.02.28 09:09:00 -
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Feedback on any ISN FC that you fly with is always welcome . The small things that pilots care for are taken in consideration . |

Removal Tool
Unleet Industries LLC Lunar Industries Partnership
2
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Posted - 2012.02.28 11:27:00 -
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Herr Ronin wrote:
If you took notice, SSN run 12 on grid
Simply, No.
Unless, of course, you are counting our ore dropper in a Viator/Crane/Prorater/Prowler. |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
831
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:06:00 -
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Removal Tool wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:
If you took notice, SSN run 12 on grid
Simply, No. Unless, of course, you are counting our ore dropper in a Viator/Crane/Prorater/Prowler.
!?!? but why! quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
831
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:06:00 -
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MR Rhy wrote:These guys have done away with the old leader who spent his days as eve's first and hopefully last transcriber of the longest channel moto's in eve history. no wonder he was so stupid to only bunk with 2.5bill 
Was it Keith, Was it? Was it!? Oh god tell me the truth! quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Noble Ranger
Noodle Shooters
0
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:06:00 -
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Ahh, so i finaly found my way here, hurray...forums.
So, browsing the later topic's, the 12 man thing and so on... I would like to point out that we have contested and won in scenario's like us being 1 Logi and 7 Deeps vs full 10-12 man shiny(ish) fleets, won with 11 on grid vs up to 16 shiny(ish) ship fleets...
So just saying, it's not that we -need- 12 on grid... We just like it, like a baws!*nodnod*
Also, some of the other, i mention no names, communties have sort of adopted our fleets comp's, to no avail, we still win ;)
Now, no one give out any more tradesecrets! They can join us is what they can!
"Buisness as usual" 
-Noodle Ranger |

IINightMearII
Nova Cascade
0
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Posted - 2012.03.01 00:08:00 -
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Removal Tool wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:
If you took notice, SSN run 12 on grid
Simply, No. Unless, of course, you are counting our ore dropper in a Viator/Crane/Prorater/Prowler.
Open your eyes, Our system is effective, Due to this a lot of other Incursion communitys are taking this tactic in and using it for themselfs.
On a other note, Great community, We need more awesome people!
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Niki Wylde
Nova Cascade
1
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Posted - 2012.03.01 00:24:00 -
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Been running logi for ISN for awhile now. There's almost never any hiccups (barring a d/c), the FCs are a great crowd, and i've been making some bank on running incursion after incursion. ISN FTW! |

Elistea
G U N G N I R Y G G D R A S I L
65
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Posted - 2012.03.01 13:36:00 -
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Ty 4 'Nfo |

Jebsar
Z-ward
0
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Posted - 2012.03.01 19:24:00 -
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ISN is an awesome community, much props to the current FC's for taking over and keeping things rolling after the drama-llama. Hoping to have more time on my hands from work to shoot at space-zombies with you guys again soon.
P.S. blaster vindis for life!
-Nituspar/Jebsar
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CtMarkster
Infusion.
3
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Posted - 2012.03.02 00:29:00 -
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ISN is awesome. Joined them to test things out yesterday, and they were fantastic. Highly recommended. |

Argaral
Obstergo NEM3SIS.
20
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Posted - 2012.03.02 04:24:00 -
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Whats your AU TZ like in terms of representation? |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
3
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Posted - 2012.03.02 11:11:00 -
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Jebsar wrote:P.S. blaster vindis for life!  -Nituspar/Jebsar
Only in PvP and in PvE (only if Null is buffed to 80% to optimal range ) ^^ |

Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade
16
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:05:00 -
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Argaral wrote:Whats your AU TZ like in terms of representation?
We are currently all TZ's :P |
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Domoso
Celestial Acquisitions Chained Reactions
1
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:07:00 -
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These guys are a great group. Ask a question and the answer will be "your fit is ****". Demonstrate significant DPS, be told your posting inaccurate figures. Ask why the fit is ****, get told you suck.
Seriously, came into their pub channel to see if a shield buff Hyperion with +1600dps (implanted and high skills) could fit in their fleets and got exactly zero answers other than to be kicked when I asked how much DPS are they getting from their faction ships.
Apparently, the ONLY criteria is that you fly faction. All other concerns are secondary to these jerks. |

Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade
16
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:12:00 -
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Domoso wrote:These guys are a great group. Ask a question and the answer will be "your fit is ****". Demonstrate significant DPS, be told your posting inaccurate figures. Ask why the fit is ****, get told you suck.
Seriously, came into their pub channel to see if a shield buff Hyperion with +1600dps (implanted and high skills) could fit in their fleets and got exactly zero answers other than to be kicked when I asked how much DPS are they getting from their faction ships.
Apparently, the ONLY criteria is that you fly faction. All other concerns are secondary to these jerks.
This rage made my day, Please read the topic, If you wish to get a fleet with a Hyperion join Btl Pub, Consistanly being told about the community is pirate faction only and still persisting in aruging your point.
That is why you go banned, Please read the topics or the channel MOTD before posting to avoid things like this.
Herr Ronin |

Sexy Cakes
Poasting
6
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:20:00 -
[43] - Quote
TLDR: LFM ICC 10 |

Domoso
Celestial Acquisitions Chained Reactions
1
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:22:00 -
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Herr Ronin wrote:
This rage made my day,
Glad I could be of assistance. But, you're missing the point. Your first contention with the Hyperion fit wasn't that it wasn't faction. It was that you didn't believe I can get that kind of DPS out of it. When I continued to probe for more answers is when you cried "faction only". Then when I asked how much DPS you got from your faction ships, completely out of curiosity, you kicked me. That I was kicked, no big deal. That you guys were complete jerks from start to finish of that convo is the point.
Just injecting a bit of realism in this thread of ass grabbers. |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
837
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:46:00 -
[45] - Quote
Domoso wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:
This rage made my day,
Glad I could be of assistance. But, you're missing the point. Your first contention with the Hyperion fit wasn't that it wasn't faction. It was that you didn't believe I can get that kind of DPS out of it. When I continued to probe for more answers is when you cried "faction only". Then when I asked how much DPS you got from your faction ships, completely out of curiosity, you kicked me. That I was kicked, no big deal. That you guys were complete jerks from start to finish of that convo is the point. Just injecting a bit of realism in this thread of ass grabbers.
There is difference between DPS and then the actual projected DPS on small high velocity targets.  quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
3
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:58:00 -
[46] - Quote
Quote:There is difference between DPS and then the actual projected DPS on small high velocity targets. 
My Rate of fire (RoF) is 5.11s in a Vindicator that is fit with 425 Railgun || . If every single volley I land hits for atleast 2000 damage and no less . Every single shot 2k or higher . My dps would be 391.38 or higher . not 1.3k as EFT shows . Not 1.7k and most certainly not 2k as some blaster boats claim . To have 2k dps ( Damage per second ) you would have to hit for 10220 each volley . 10k hits each time your guns do a cycle with a 5.11s RoF . So ... how much dps you were pullling out of your Hyperion Mr. Domoso ? |

Domoso
Celestial Acquisitions Chained Reactions
2
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Posted - 2012.03.03 03:14:00 -
[47] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Quote:There is difference between DPS and then the actual projected DPS on small high velocity targets.  My Rate of fire (RoF) is 5.11s in a Vindicator that is fit with 425 Railgun || . If every single volley I land hits for atleast 2000 damage and no less . Every single shot 2k or higher . My dps would be 391.38 or higher . not 1.3k as EFT shows . Not 1.7k and most certainly not 2k as some blaster boats claim . To have 2k dps ( Damage per second ) you would have to hit for 10220 each volley . 10k hits each time your guns do a cycle with a 5.11s RoF . So ... how much dps you were pullling out of your Hyperion Mr. Domoso ? Was it +1600 dps ? If I fit my blasters on I get my RoF up to 3.99 . I assume you can do the same . So with that in mind ... to get 1600dps you would have to hit for 6384 damage every volley . Any hit below 6384 would mean that you do less then 1600 dps . Maybe I am missing something about Hyperions . Maybe they do 6k hit per each volley . Did they get a stealth buff at some point ?
There's no debating that tracking issues affect DPS. But then that Hyperion has dual tracking enhancers, web, I have tracking implants and take boosters to further increase tracking. So I'd say I track better than most. Then again, the entire topic in their pub channel was dismissed as soon as they decided that there was no way a Hyperion could get +1600dps.
BTW, when someone asks how much DPS your Vindi gets, do you state EFT results? Or do you come up with some arbitrarily low number to reflect tracking? Everyone knows EFT is not perfect and in game results will vary. But it is at least a measure.
Then again, the convo never made it farther than "inaccurate DPS", "Your fit sux", "faction only", in that order. Frankly, any group of a**holes like that, I don't want to be a part of. I'm just posting here to inform potential recruits of the BS they're going to have to swallow to join these guys. |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.03 08:55:00 -
[48] - Quote
is there any specific reason why you want nightmare pilots to have t2 guns? |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
839
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Posted - 2012.03.03 13:22:00 -
[49] - Quote
Daniel Plain wrote:is there any specific reason why you want nightmare pilots to have t2 guns?
Scorch beats the hell out of radio. You will be surprised how much damage can be dealt with scorch on 70 km engagement range. quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
3
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Posted - 2012.03.03 16:22:00 -
[50] - Quote
Quote:there was no way a Hyperion could get +1600dps.
Correct .
Quote:BTW, when someone asks how much DPS your Vindi gets, do you state EFT results?
No .
Quote:Or do you come up with some arbitrarily low number to reflect tracking?
No . I state the dps that my ship can do in a specific site / sites . Which is no more that 300 - ish in a Vanguard OTA or NMC .
Furthermore I must say that tracking is only one of the many that affect your outgoing damage . Your DPS is affected by : Signature radius , velocity , radial velocity , angular velocity , tracking , your ships velocity , your scan resolution , specific ammo , optimal range , falloff , rate of fire , damage modifier and the resistances .
I might have missed something .
So when someone asks me about my DPS I always wonder if that person wants some mistic number from EFT or the DPS that I will do on the target that he wants me to shoot at . |
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.03 21:32:00 -
[51] - Quote
Ammzi wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:is there any specific reason why you want nightmare pilots to have t2 guns? Scorch beats the hell out of radio. You will be surprised how much damage can be dealt with scorch on 70 km engagement range.
i assume you mean pulses, because for a tach setup, even 100km are no big deal. my followup question then would be why you use pulses over tachs in incursions?
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Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
3
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Posted - 2012.03.03 23:49:00 -
[52] - Quote
Quote: why you use pulses over tachs in incursions?
I use Taco Bells and easy outdps any pulse mares in any OTA or NMC . Cap management and use knowledge required tho . Same as 1400s on Machariels .
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.04 01:05:00 -
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what are the typical ranges you're shooting at and how much tracking/sensor strength is appropriate for a tach nightmare to work? |

Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade Dragon Swarm Dynasty
16
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Posted - 2012.03.04 01:18:00 -
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Domoso wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:
This rage made my day,
Glad I could be of assistance. But, you're missing the point. Your first contention with the Hyperion fit wasn't that it wasn't faction. It was that you didn't believe I can get that kind of DPS out of it. When I continued to probe for more answers is when you cried "faction only". Then when I asked how much DPS you got from your faction ships, completely out of curiosity, you kicked me. That I was kicked, no big deal. That you guys were complete jerks from start to finish of that convo is the point. Just injecting a bit of realism in this thread of ass grabbers.
Come At Me Bro!
I cannot be bothered to answer your replys anymore, Please read the topic, You seem to lack the commen sense to take in the information we are giving you, We stated that we only accept Pirate Faction, A Hyperion is not. Regarding that i kicked you as soon as you "X" up is hilarouis, As i said the reason i kicked you is that you were arugeing your point and not listing to all the ISN members within the Public channel.
So please, Read the topic.
P.s, I love how mad you are, I mean... Carlsberg with tears? What is next?
Ammzi are you addicted to this thread :) |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
839
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Posted - 2012.03.04 05:45:00 -
[55] - Quote
Daniel Plain wrote:Ammzi wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:is there any specific reason why you want nightmare pilots to have t2 guns? Scorch beats the hell out of radio. You will be surprised how much damage can be dealt with scorch on 70 km engagement range. i assume you mean pulses, because for a tach setup, even 100km are no big deal. my followup question then would be why you use pulses over tachs in incursions?
Tachs on a vg nightmare? Ew? Lower dps, lower tracking and you don't need that far range.
What Herr, I can't be in here and discuss incursions?
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade Dragon Swarm Dynasty
16
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Posted - 2012.03.04 13:49:00 -
[56] - Quote
Ammzi wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:Ammzi wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:is there any specific reason why you want nightmare pilots to have t2 guns? Scorch beats the hell out of radio. You will be surprised how much damage can be dealt with scorch on 70 km engagement range. i assume you mean pulses, because for a tach setup, even 100km are no big deal. my followup question then would be why you use pulses over tachs in incursions? Tachs on a vg nightmare? Ew? Lower dps, lower tracking and you don't need that far range. What Herr, I can't be in here and discuss incursions?
Who is saying your not aloud :) |

Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade Dragon Swarm Dynasty
16
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 17:01:00 -
[57] - Quote
Still Looking For People To Join The Community! :P |

Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade Dragon Swarm Dynasty
16
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Posted - 2012.03.08 00:08:00 -
[58] - Quote
To The Top! |

Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
29
|
Posted - 2012.03.09 17:07:00 -
[59] - Quote
I have flown with ISN off and on for some time now flying both DPS and Logistics.
I have met people from all over the world both as Squad Members and Fleet Commanders.
Great bunch of people. Keep up the good work! HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression -á- The only way to go! |

Redclaw Inshan
Serenity Crew
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 12:57:00 -
[60] - Quote
Ok found forums... yay
Ok i've been flying with ISN for quite some time now... under the old Leadership ( which was kinda... ok don't get me started) and now under the "new" Leadership.
The Community and how we act towards each other has improved by roundabout 500%. People are allways advised to improve their fitting if possible, but do not get yelled at, if they don't. I personally FC for ISN since some time now too and i got to say one thing : it's FUN!!! Great people around, smooth fleets, GREAT ISK/hour ratio and no ship losses in a regular fleet that i know of. Standards are maybe a bit higher than other communities, but with upholding those standards, ISN makes sure that you do not loose your ship and earn quite a great amount of ISK.
All in all i can say
Great community, which is growing Great people Geat ISK ( ain't that one of the main reasons, why people fly incursions at all? lol)
nuff said Redclaw
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goldiiee
Bad Wolf Project High Sec Dropouts
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 13:54:00 -
[61] - Quote
Incursions are run by all types of ships, using many different tactics, the ISN community runs incursions in such a way that only the fast lock times and intense DPS afforded by the pirate faction ships can handle. I have been running with ISN for some time now ISK is better than great, the fleets are always polite, or downright sarcastic depending on the 'mood of the day". Great ISK, Great guys, and typing gc is local never gets old.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
53
|
Posted - 2012.03.12 00:34:00 -
[62] - Quote
As a person that stumbled upon this group jumping from channel to channel i am very pleased with community reception,guidance and attitude in general.
I already was mach pilot with t2 guns but i got plenty of advice on ship fitting ranging from FC stating what hi would prefer as fleet composition,MOTD and ship fitting examples all the way to members chat and showcasing their own ideas.Group is progressive in that way and is constantly improving.
All of this is in spirit of being good at what one does reducing time spent doing it while hugely improving safety of members...enough to say that as FC you are much better knowing that you have scary amount of dps to wave around and that ships are similar in fittings and with pilots that can cope with any hazardous situation that came before them without braking a sweat.
I do believe that community accept T1 guns as long as pilot have very good dmg support skills and is willing to continue to advance in that field.
Things that i like the most are friendly growing community , random ship scans to ensure everyone is on the ball...i also like my wallet much much more now then before.
So if you like some crazy talk while padding your wallet the right way give it a try  |

Mr Welsh
LOst's Engneers Fusion Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.12 12:22:00 -
[63] - Quote
Domoso wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:
This rage made my day,
Glad I could be of assistance. But, you're missing the point. Your first contention with the Hyperion fit wasn't that it wasn't faction. It was that you didn't believe I can get that kind of DPS out of it. When I continued to probe for more answers is when you cried "faction only". Then when I asked how much DPS you got from your faction ships, completely out of curiosity, you kicked me. That I was kicked, no big deal. That you guys were complete jerks from start to finish of that convo is the point. Just injecting a bit of realism in this thread of ass grabbers.
if the FCs dont like your attitude they have alll the right to kick you, its up to you if u want to be difficult, factions not hard to get :) |

Cfiloruz Xilocient
Not Quite So Sinister Shadow Empire.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.12 14:05:00 -
[64] - Quote
Was in ISN fleet back when they were SSN. without being in ISN nor alowed to join even if the FC wnet to verbal duel with the leader to let me in. only reason then was not having t2 autos on my mach.
Was an epic 16 hour straight run and alot of iskies as a reward.... later with the t2 guns i stil wasnt invited...
i hope the attitude has changed and i might peek in the group once again....
one question tho. Do you have room for Bhaalgorns? i really like the double webber 
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Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade
17
|
Posted - 2012.03.12 19:28:00 -
[65] - Quote
Cfiloruz Xilocient wrote:Was in ISN fleet back when they were SSN. without being in ISN nor alowed to join even if the FC wnet to verbal duel with the leader to let me in. only reason then was not having t2 autos on my mach. Was an epic 16 hour straight run and alot of iskies as a reward.... later with the t2 guns i stil wasnt invited... i hope the attitude has changed and i might peek in the group once again.... one question tho. Do you have room for Bhaalgorns? i really like the double webber 
Well am sure that we can sort you out and get you into ISN, It is under new managment also, If you are still interested join ISN Secondary
Regards |

Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.14 01:45:00 -
[66] - Quote
Daily Bumb! |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.14 06:59:00 -
[67] - Quote
What is this ? |

Kodavor
Jesus is life .
4
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:07:00 -
[68] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8 |

Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.17 04:36:00 -
[69] - Quote
A couple questions:
I want to fly a nightmare, is both BS V necessary? I have both BS IV
Are perfect skills necessary? I have everything except Surgical Strike V
I've seen the required nightmare fit on the mailing list and I could easily fit that, isk isn't really an issue, but just wondering if the skills I suggested are good enough. |

Pierre LaFayette
Sin City Enterprises
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.17 06:31:00 -
[70] - Quote
Cfiloruz Xilocient wrote:Was in ISN fleet back when they were SSN.
ISN was never SSN.
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Herr Ronin
Incursion Shiny Network
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.17 19:11:00 -
[71] - Quote
Dato Koppla wrote:A couple questions:
I want to fly a nightmare, is both BS V necessary? I have both BS IV
Are perfect skills necessary? I have everything except Surgical Strike V
I've seen the required nightmare fit on the mailing list and I could easily fit that, isk isn't really an issue, but just wondering if the skills I suggested are good enough.
BS IV is fantastic, If you do around 1.2k dps in a Nightmare, Then that is fantastic!
If you need anymore information please mail me! |

Herr Ronin
Incursion Shiny Network
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.17 19:13:00 -
[72] - Quote
Pierre LaFayette wrote:Cfiloruz Xilocient wrote:Was in ISN fleet back when they were SSN.
ISN was never SSN.
That is correct.
I find it cute that SSN watch's this thread. ISN was never SSN and never will be.
But we will allways drive them out of system! 
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lady jailbait
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
|
Posted - 2012.03.17 19:17:00 -
[73] - Quote
bunch of noobs and pricks |

Herr Ronin
Incursion Shiny Network
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.18 09:02:00 -
[74] - Quote
lady jailbait wrote:bunch of noobs and pricks
You Jelly Bro?
I Link For You.. - http://i.imgur.com/fzzOt.gif
<3 |

lady jailbait
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
|
Posted - 2012.03.18 18:26:00 -
[75] - Quote
ancient gif is ancient, u mite no that if u werent such a giant noob here i have link for ypu also - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Herr%20Ronin
so you may want to think twice before inviting me to come at u scrub |

Herr Ronin
Incursion Shiny Network
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.19 13:29:00 -
[76] - Quote
Considering i don't pvp that much and use this as a Isk maker, Man, Linking Killboards?
You really are mad aren't you.
You're so cute!  |

Kodavor
Mine2
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.19 13:31:00 -
[77] - Quote
Free hugs ! Giving out Free hugs ! |

Gingger
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.19 13:44:00 -
[78] - Quote
there is this matter of Gingers having no souls we need to discuss!
Ps. hi ISN. |

Herr Ronin
Incursion Shiny Network
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.19 15:44:00 -
[79] - Quote
Gingger wrote:there is this matter of Gingers having no souls we need to discuss!
Ps. hi ISN.
Haha! Hey dude, Hows things ;p
P.s You're soul is now mine.
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Gingger
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.19 16:25:00 -
[80] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Gingger wrote:there is this matter of Gingers having no souls we need to discuss!
Ps. hi ISN. Haha! Hey dude, Hows things ;p P.s You're soul is now mine.
not possible, Rizzy bought it for 2 packs of cheap arsed smokes and an empty clipper lighter. |
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Herr Ronin
Incursion Shiny Network
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.19 16:28:00 -
[81] - Quote
Gingger wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Gingger wrote:there is this matter of Gingers having no souls we need to discuss!
Ps. hi ISN. Haha! Hey dude, Hows things ;p P.s You're soul is now mine. not possible, Rizzy bought it for 2 packs of cheap arsed smokes and an empty clipper lighter.
Hrmm ill have to up my price! |

Gingger
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.19 17:12:00 -
[82] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Gingger wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Gingger wrote:there is this matter of Gingers having no souls we need to discuss!
Ps. hi ISN. Haha! Hey dude, Hows things ;p P.s You're soul is now mine. not possible, Rizzy bought it for 2 packs of cheap arsed smokes and an empty clipper lighter. Hrmm ill have to up my price! a pint of p*ss and a packet of digestives may swing it for you. |

Herr Ronin
Incursion Shiny Network
20
|
Posted - 2012.03.20 17:09:00 -
[83] - Quote
Gingger wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Gingger wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Gingger wrote:there is this matter of Gingers having no souls we need to discuss!
Ps. hi ISN. Haha! Hey dude, Hows things ;p P.s You're soul is now mine. not possible, Rizzy bought it for 2 packs of cheap arsed smokes and an empty clipper lighter. Hrmm ill have to up my price! a pint of p*ss and a packet of digestives may swing it for you.
Oh tempting, Now i fancy a cup of tea and some digestives |

Herr Ronin
Incursion Shiny Network
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.20 22:52:00 -
[84] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:What is ISN?Incursion Shiny Network, Arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion vanguard sites. Will I Lose My 4.5 Bill Mach?ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander. Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise. How Does ISN Benefit Me? ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's.  Hosted Teamspeak 3  23/7 Active Fleets  Fitting Advise  Fleet Commander Training  Legion Fleets  Sleipnir Fleets ISN Requirments: Machariels/Nightmares: T2 guns, all resistances above 70%  Vindicator: T2 Railguns, all resistances above 70%  Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, sufficient tank  Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, sufficient tank If you would like to join ISN: Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel. If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management: Herr Ronin  Noble Ranger  Hennie79  Kodavor ISN Recruitment Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8Fly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With "Shiny Fleets Only" SFO
Recruitment Is Back Open!
Join ISN Secondary and x up!
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Herr Ronin
Incursion Shiny Network
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 18:23:00 -
[85] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:What is ISN?Incursion Shiny Network, Arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion vanguard sites. Will I Lose My 4.5 Bill Mach?ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander. Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise. How Does ISN Benefit Me? ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's.  Hosted Teamspeak 3  23/7 Active Fleets  Fitting Advise  Fleet Commander Training  Legion Fleets  Sleipnir Fleets ISN Requirments: Machariels/Nightmares: T2 guns, all resistances above 70%  Vindicator: T2 Railguns, all resistances above 70%  Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, sufficient tank  Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, sufficient tank If you would like to join ISN: Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel. If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management: Herr Ronin  Noble Ranger  Hennie79  Kodavor ISN Recruitment Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8Fly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With "Shiny Fleets Only" SFO Recruitment Is Back Open! Join ISN Secondary and x up!
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Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.22 14:53:00 -
[86] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:What is ISN?Incursion Shiny Network, Arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion vanguard sites. Will I Lose My 4.5 Bill Mach?ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander. Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise. How Does ISN Benefit Me? ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's.  Hosted Teamspeak 3  23/7 Active Fleets  Fitting Advise  Fleet Commander Training  Legion Fleets  Sleipnir Fleets ISN Requirments: Machariels/Nightmares: T2 guns, all resistances above 70%  Vindicator: T2 Railguns, all resistances above 70%  Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, sufficient tank  Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, sufficient tank If you would like to join ISN: Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel. If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management: Herr Ronin  Noble Ranger  Hennie79  Kodavor ISN Recruitment Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8Fly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With "Shiny Fleets Only" SFO Recruitment Is Back Open! Join ISN Secondary and x up!
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killroy v2
Mission Creep
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.22 23:37:00 -
[87] - Quote
would a tengu be wanted?  |

Kodavor
Mine3
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 20:15:00 -
[88] - Quote
killroy v2 wrote:would a tengu be wanted?  
Only as a OGB . |

Luna Haywire
N7 Elite Squad
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.26 17:20:00 -
[89] - Quote
You guys got a fitting page? |

Kodavor
Mine3
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.26 22:04:00 -
[90] - Quote
Luna Haywire wrote:You guys got a fitting page?
We have fitting mailing lists . Please join ISN Secondary for any questions regarding fitting advice . |
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Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 12:09:00 -
[91] - Quote
Recruitment for our community will be back open on the 6th of April, So please make sure that you are in " ISN Secondary " If you have any questions or concerns please contact a ISN Fleet Commander or ISN Management Via EVE-Mail.
Thank you for having interest in this thread and we hope to fly with you soon!
Fly Fast - ISN Management
Fitting Advise? - Join our fitting mailing list called " ISN Fitting " You will get a welcome EVE-Mail with all the standard ISN Fittings.
Want To Know More? - Join " ISN Secondary " Our public channel, Ask anyone of our community members, Link your fitting and see what can be changed or improved!
Thinking About Becoming A FC? - Contact ISN Management, We will help you the best we can to get you all geared up to become a FC for one of the top incursion community's!
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Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.28 21:29:00 -
[92] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Recruitment for our community will be back open on the 6th of April, So please make sure that you are in " ISN Secondary " If you have any questions or concerns please contact a ISN Fleet Commander or ISN Management Via EVE-Mail. Thank you for having interest in this thread and we hope to fly with you soon! Fly Fast - ISN Management  Fitting Advise? - Join our fitting mailing list called " ISN Fitting " You will get a welcome EVE-Mail with all the standard ISN Fittings.  Want To Know More? - Join " ISN Secondary " Our public channel, Ask anyone of our community members, Link your fitting and see what can be changed or improved!  Thinking About Becoming A FC? - Contact ISN Management, We will help you the best we can to get you all geared up to become a FC for one of the top incursion community's! |

nyixxia
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 05:52:00 -
[93] - Quote
well run solid groups :) |

Anterous
Strategic Initiatives
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 19:58:00 -
[94] - Quote
Hi,
ISN sounds like its reinvented.
One thing I'd like to see on the ad thou, you say you run legion fleets but then have no requirements listed.
Can you add something to steer us armor guys as to your minimum required spec? (t2 heavies, pulse, 70% resists etc)
I popped in channel earlier to ask but it seemed quiet, probably bad timing.
thanks |

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.29 21:11:00 -
[95] - Quote
Anterous wrote:Hi,
ISN sounds like its reinvented.
One thing I'd like to see on the ad thou, you say you run legion fleets but then have no requirements listed.
Can you add something to steer us armor guys as to your minimum required spec? (t2 heavies, pulse, 70% resists etc)
I popped in channel earlier to ask but it seemed quiet, probably bad timing.
thanks
Thanks for having interested in ISN, The armor wing is currently OFFLINE for the time being, We will see how it goes but our main concern is our shield fleets!
If you need any more information send me a EVE-Mail!
Regards |

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.30 22:19:00 -
[96] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Anterous wrote:Hi,
ISN sounds like its reinvented.
One thing I'd like to see on the ad thou, you say you run legion fleets but then have no requirements listed.
Can you add something to steer us armor guys as to your minimum required spec? (t2 heavies, pulse, 70% resists etc)
I popped in channel earlier to ask but it seemed quiet, probably bad timing.
thanks Thanks for having interest in ISN, The armor wing is currently OFFLINE for the time being, We will see how it goes but our main concern is our shield fleets! If you need any more information send me a EVE-Mail! Regards
|

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
|
Posted - 2012.03.31 13:40:00 -
[97] - Quote
Recruitment is back open!
Be sure to join our ingame public channel " ISN Secondary " |

chopps001
The Knights Templar GIANTSBANE.
1
|
Posted - 2012.04.01 05:14:00 -
[98] - Quote
Does everyone need to go through the secondary channel or does incursions together in the past help speed that up?  |

Kodavor
Mine3
4
|
Posted - 2012.04.01 13:39:00 -
[99] - Quote
chopps001 wrote:Does everyone need to go through the secondary channel or does incursions together in the past help speed that up? 
If you have a person that we know well and has a good reputation among ISN members then he could vouch for you and that could help you to reduce the time required . |

Aaron Kyoto
kings of eve
0
|
Posted - 2012.04.01 18:52:00 -
[100] - Quote
Excellent Community, Many people available to hand out info. Only run with them a few short times and already made 250mil.
Good idea to have a startup fund, alot of fits require faction modules. |
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Diviser
Who Even Is Those Guys
0
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Posted - 2012.04.02 13:16:00 -
[101] - Quote
I flew with them last night for the first time. They are effective, hilarious and really helpful on making you fly your ship to it's fullest! Fast isk and you learn alot. Huge thumbs up from me. |

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
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Posted - 2012.04.02 23:02:00 -
[102] - Quote
Diviser wrote:I flew with them last night for the first time. They are effective, hilarious and really helpful on making you fly your ship to it's fullest! Fast isk and you learn alot. Huge thumbs up from me.
Welcome to ISN my man!
Many laugh's are planned ;D |

Inflatable Girlfriend
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.04.02 23:06:00 -
[103] - Quote
ill say its rather fun flying with Inflatable Shiny Noobs err... i mean incursion shiny netork :P
cheers |

Praetor Hartgan
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.04.02 23:07:00 -
[104] - Quote
1st timer here too, and i can vouch that these people are awesome, fun and efficient.
One hell of a time with em. |

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
|
Posted - 2012.04.03 21:56:00 -
[105] - Quote
To The Top! |

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
|
Posted - 2012.04.04 20:09:00 -
[106] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:What is ISN?Incursion Shiny Network, Arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion vanguard sites. Will I Lose My 4.5 Bill Mach?ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander. Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise. How Does ISN Benefit Me? ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's.  Hosted Teamspeak 3  23/7 Active Fleets  Fitting Advise  Fleet Commander Training  Sleipnir Fleets ISN Requirments: Machariels/Nightmares: T2 guns, all resistances above 70%  Vindicator: T2 Railguns, all resistances above 70%  Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, sufficient tank  Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, sufficient tank If you would like to join ISN: Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel. If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management: Herr Ronin  Noble Ranger  Kodavor ISN Recruitment Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8Fly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With Any Other Incursion Community
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Kodavor
Mine3
4
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Posted - 2012.04.06 09:39:00 -
[107] - Quote
What is this ? |

BearJews
Android Arms And Industrial Corporation
29
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Posted - 2012.04.06 14:50:00 -
[108] - Quote
Great people though no SSN!!! :) I kid i kid!! Very fun to compete with you guys!! Keep up the good work |

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
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Posted - 2012.04.07 18:22:00 -
[109] - Quote
BearJews wrote:Great people though no SSN!!! :) I kid i kid!! Very fun to compete with you guys!! Keep up the good work 
Oh agreed, We love our contests :p |

Shadow Vendetta
Serenity Crew
0
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Posted - 2012.04.08 18:05:00 -
[110] - Quote
I am flying with ISN now for a while and first of all it is a great community. I was quite new to incursions and meeting those guys brought me the fun of doing incursions All the guys are super helpful if it comes to fittings, ideas and advise. I learned a lot about Incursions in general and as well about FC mechanics. They are way not the elite pricks I was told they would be. All the strict fittings and requirenments are only for the efficiency of the fleets and that really makes sense, if you see the constant ISK per hour these guys roll All the time I flew with ISN i never saw one ship die. FC's are very aware of what they are doing and I felt safe with everyone I was fyling with The ISN fleets nearly rolling 24/7 as they have lots of FC's and pilots over all time zones what makes it easy to get a fleet that suits my times as well. If you search for ISK and a nice group of people... try ISN :) Thanks the ISN Managemant for work and effort and keep it rolling!
V |
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Delarn Dessi
An Eye For An Eye AN EYE F0R AN EYE
0
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Posted - 2012.04.08 20:43:00 -
[111] - Quote
Spent many hours yesterday flying with ISN. Everyone was very professional. We were flying 11/1 which to be honest I was nervous about at first, but after the first few sites I saw the FC's had everything under control and I settled in and was enjoying the ride.
Even though the FC's set very high expectations for the fleets performance, everyone pulled their weight while still having fun in vent and making it an enjoyable day!
My new favorite thing is 11/1's - I look forward to flying with you guys more in the future,
Delarn |

GhostDragoon
Incertae Sedis Cascade Imminent
7
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Posted - 2012.04.08 21:30:00 -
[112] - Quote
+1 Good group of guys (At least when I was there during IronSpam's reign). |

Kodavor
Mine3
4
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Posted - 2012.04.09 21:57:00 -
[113] - Quote
What is this 3.6 bill ship ? I dont see any ships o_O |

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
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Posted - 2012.04.10 01:05:00 -
[114] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:What is this 3.6 bill ship ? I dont see any ships o_O
Let me correct you, 3.7Bill. |

Niki Wylde
Mnt N' Dew.
1
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Posted - 2012.04.10 15:36:00 -
[115] - Quote
So I'm pretty sure it went down something like this: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3oq5zq/ |

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
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Posted - 2012.04.11 22:25:00 -
[116] - Quote
GhostDragoon wrote:+1 Good group of guys (At least when I was there during IronSpam's reign).
Iron Spam is a long term member of Sk33t Fl33t, Not ISN - Incursion Shiny Network.
Havn't seen Skeet forever, Are they dead?
Regards. |

Vitamin B12
25
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Posted - 2012.04.12 09:44:00 -
[117] - Quote
+1 awesome group! Capital Ships Related BPC's & BPO's // fair price-á// fast delivery https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=973041 |

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
22
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:32:00 -
[118] - Quote
Vitamin B12 wrote:+1 awesome group!
Thank you!
Still in search for a awesome Incursion Community?
Join "ISN Secondary"
o7 |

Caellach Marellus
Aideron Robotics Darkmatter Initiative
486
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:37:00 -
[119] - Quote
Looking forward to flying with you guys again when the iteration comes in o7
Great network of pilots, much fun on comms. Pity the current mechanics are dull as hell. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

ZeeZaa Xod
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.14 00:22:00 -
[120] - Quote
Hello I'm pretty new to running incursions but I can fit my ship properly and would like the opportunity to fly with the best. I am currently working on fly logistics well. At the moment I fly a Mach. Thanks Zee |
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Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
24
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Posted - 2012.04.15 13:25:00 -
[121] - Quote
ZeeZaa Xod wrote:Hello I'm pretty new to running incursions but I can fit my ship properly and would like the opportunity to fly with the best. I am currently working on fly logistics well. At the moment I fly a Mach. Thanks Zee
Sounds like a date, Join our public channel and ask more information there if you need it, Feel free to EVE-Mail me for any questions, Fitting etc.
ISN Management |

ISN Spy spizors
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.16 04:20:00 -
[122] - Quote
ISN Fleet 1 FC: Nambr1
fleet form up: a few minutes Isk: 152,276,775 time: 85 minutes 1.42 hours
108mil/hr (far from the 160mil/hr i was expecting)
no contests, no safety problems
other notes: =we were running 2 logi, not 1 like i was expecting although it says only the top ISN FCs are able to run with 1 logi =lots of pony hate, LOTS of pony hate, someone brought up ponies and about 3 people started making fun of him, and it wasnt nice 2 way trolling either, it was alot of 1 way personal insults... =someone from orphanage was in the fleet, was fun to listen to the latest station game fights.
nothing really stood out much between ISN and normal shiny fleets other then the super fast form up time, still a decent incursion group although joining the main group is a pain in the ass! you could be invited after your first fleet or you could sit in their secondary channel for days begging for an invite (guess im just not good enough) |

ISN Spy spizors
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.16 06:33:00 -
[123] - Quote
The common people pray for isk, strong logi, and fleets that never end. It is no matter to them if the shiny lords play their game of e-peens, so long as they are left in peace. |

Kodavor
Mine3
4
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Posted - 2012.04.16 07:01:00 -
[124] - Quote
ISN Spy spizors wrote:ISN Fleet 1 FC: Nambr1
fleet form up: a few minutes Isk: 152,276,775 time: 85 minutes 1.42 hours
108mil/hr (far from the 160mil/hr i was expecting)
no contests, no safety problems
other notes: =we were running 2 logi, not 1 like i was expecting although it says only the top ISN FCs are able to run with 1 logi =lots of pony hate, LOTS of pony hate, someone brought up ponies and about 3 people started making fun of him, and it wasnt nice 2 way trolling either, it was alot of 1 way personal insults... =someone from orphanage was in the fleet, was fun to listen to the latest station game fights.
nothing really stood out much between ISN and normal shiny fleets other then the super fast form up time, still a decent incursion group although joining the main group is a pain in the ass! you could be invited after your first fleet or you could sit in their secondary channel for days begging for an invite (guess im just not good enough)
Good . Now try to fly with some 8 more of our FC's acros all the time zones and then return here .
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ISN Spy spizors
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.16 07:31:00 -
[125] - Quote
that almost sounds like your saying one time zone is better then the other :O and dont worry i will :3 im looking forward to flying with nobles epic fleets the most!
http://img.ponibooru.org/images/bd/bdadf85ae70730c3c170ade3e269758a i also prefer 2 legs ;) |

Kodavor
Mine3
4
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Posted - 2012.04.16 07:37:00 -
[126] - Quote
Correct . Currently majority of ISN pilots are EU time based therefore EU timezone is in more colors . |

Keith Planck
The Great and Powerful Corporation
107
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Posted - 2012.04.16 08:02:00 -
[127] - Quote
i've bumped every other incursion forum might as well do this one too |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
24
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Posted - 2012.04.16 11:41:00 -
[128] - Quote
ISN Spy spizors wrote:ISN Fleet 1 FC: Nambr1
fleet form up: a few minutes Isk: 152,276,775 time: 85 minutes 1.42 hours
108mil/hr (far from the 160mil/hr i was expecting)
no contests, no safety problems
other notes: =we were running 2 logi, not 1 like i was expecting although it says only the top ISN FCs are able to run with 1 logi =lots of pony hate, LOTS of pony hate, someone brought up ponies and about 3 people started making fun of him, and it wasnt nice 2 way trolling either, it was alot of 1 way personal insults... =someone from orphanage was in the fleet, was fun to listen to the latest station game fights.
nothing really stood out much between ISN and normal shiny fleets other then the super fast form up time, still a decent incursion group although joining the main group is a pain in the ass! you could be invited after your first fleet or you could sit in their secondary channel for days begging for an invite (guess im just not good enough)
Well i agree with Kodavor, Our US Timezone is not our strongest, ISN has a very Strong EU Timezone.
108 Mill/hr - Do you count the spawns that happen, OTA Train or stuck with pure NMC's, Or a NCO Wall, You need to take this all into consideration.
Regarding the Pony Insults, Tell me there names, I will purge them will pony love..
As Kodavor said, Try our EU FC's, Like ME!! Trolls all around!!!!!
Regards |

Nambr1
Raspadakis I
5
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Posted - 2012.04.17 01:38:00 -
[129] - Quote
@ISN Spy spizors ISN Fleet 1 FC: Nambr1
fleet form up: a few minutes Isk: 152,276,775 time: 85 minutes 1.42 hours
108mil/hr (far from the 160mil/hr i was expecting) no contests, no safety problems
With all OTA spawns you can get 176 mil/h, no contests, 40-50 ppl in local = NCO wall, so thats why 108mil/h
other notes: =we were running 2 logi, not 1 like i was expecting although it says only the top ISN FCs are able to run with 1 logi
ISN standard is 2 logis
=lots of pony hate, LOTS of pony hate, someone brought up ponies and about 3 people started making fun of him, and it wasnt nice 2 way trolling either, it was alot of 1 way personal insults...
Not on ts, maybe in fleet and I dont care what ppl talk in fleet
=someone from orphanage was in the fleet, was fun to listen to the latest station game fights.
nothing really stood out much between ISN and normal shiny fleets other then the super fast form up time, still a decent incursion group although joining the main group is a pain in the ass! you could be invited after your first fleet or you could sit in their secondary channel for days begging for an invite (guess im just not good enough) |

ISN Spy spizors
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.17 04:46:00 -
[130] - Quote
Nambr1 wrote:@ISN Spy spizors ISN Fleet 1 FC: Nambr1
fleet form up: a few minutes Isk: 152,276,775 time: 85 minutes 1.42 hours
108mil/hr (far from the 160mil/hr i was expecting) no contests, no safety problems
With all OTA spawns you can get 176 mil/h, no contests, 40-50 ppl in local = NCO wall, so thats why 108mil/h
other notes: =we were running 2 logi, not 1 like i was expecting although it says only the top ISN FCs are able to run with 1 logi
ISN standard is 2 logis
=lots of pony hate, LOTS of pony hate, someone brought up ponies and about 3 people started making fun of him, and it wasnt nice 2 way trolling either, it was alot of 1 way personal insults...
Not on ts, maybe in fleet and I dont care what ppl talk in fleet
=someone from orphanage was in the fleet, was fun to listen to the latest station game fights.
nothing really stood out much between ISN and normal shiny fleets other then the super fast form up time, still a decent incursion group although joining the main group is a pain in the ass! you could be invited after your first fleet or you could sit in their secondary channel for days begging for an invite (guess im just not good enough)
i dont remember doing a single NCO, mostly we just did OTAs with a couple NMCs sprinkled in the fleet almost disbanded when we hit the NCO wall but 3 more OTAs popped in a row so we finished those before disbanding |
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skagen watch
skagen watch Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 02:55:00 -
[131] - Quote
http://pastebin.com/fnvUfGj4
ISN Fleet getting punked.
Honestly, it's just not worth it. Elitism isn't bad, but being hostile while elitist will get you targeted just as ISN fleets are getting targeted now.
ISN - Great place to troll, but I would not fly any shiny ships as they have painted themselves targets for anyone looking for a juicy target. I wouldn't trust any of the FC's at this point. |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
58
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Posted - 2012.04.18 03:34:00 -
[132] - Quote
I am not constantly running with dose folks but i scrolled rly fast that chat log and don't recognize any names and i saw mention of a Tengu and dose two things are sticking out as not ISN fleet.
I could be wrong but not likely also never heard of that FC. |

Kodavor
Mine3
4
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:12:00 -
[133] - Quote
skagen watch wrote:http://pastebin.com/fnvUfGj4
ISN Fleet getting punked.
Honestly, it's just not worth it. Elitism isn't bad, but being hostile while elitist will get you targeted just as ISN fleets are getting targeted now.
ISN - Great place to troll, but I would not fly any shiny ships as they have painted themselves targets for anyone looking for a juicy target. I wouldn't trust any of the FC's at this point.
All ISN fleets are on ISN comms (Teamspeak ) with ISN logo on it and ISN tags and matching character names in ISN Secondary and ISN primary . If any pilot is asked to join a fleet / comms that is supposedly ISN and he has any doubts , then fleel free to contact any ISN Officer or ISN Management for confirmation . Their names are in the MOTD of ISN Secondary . ISN fleets do not use Tengus or Myrmidons for their fleets . We have a very strict policy of not promoting donations for OGB's as our pilots provide them free of charge and out of their own will . Tweety Bird and Jeronica are widely known gankers / griefers / pirates / you name it - they are it . They were simple " M " members in ISN for a short period of time . They were not FC's and they were not trial FC's nor will be . Unfortunately at times info does not fly as fast a I would like it to . As soon as I recieved various confirmations about their past and behaviour , they were permanently removed from ISN . I am sorry to hear that they managed to grief a public fleet . Question everything and everyone . Tripple check your deals and fleets if they realy are what they claim to be .
Regards Kodavor. |

Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
2
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:12:00 -
[134] - Quote
x mach for fleet/waitlist |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
27
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Posted - 2012.04.18 14:00:00 -
[135] - Quote
skagen watch wrote:http://pastebin.com/fnvUfGj4
ISN Fleet getting punked.
Honestly, it's just not worth it. Elitism isn't bad, but being hostile while elitist will get you targeted just as ISN fleets are getting targeted now.
ISN - Great place to troll, but I would not fly any shiny ships as they have painted themselves targets for anyone looking for a juicy target. I wouldn't trust any of the FC's at this point.
It makes me giggle on how much people get Jelly.
The funny fact is: Its all the butthurt people we have Kicked out of ISN, For Instance, Deathfallen, Mr Skagen is his Alt, He is Butthurt.
But if you can please send me a EVE Mail on how you are jelly and how mad you are and describe how you felt at that current time that will amuze me for some momments.
P.S - Thank you for the bumb. |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
27
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Posted - 2012.04.18 14:04:00 -
[136] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:What is ISN?Incursion Shiny Network, Arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion Vanguard/Assault sites. ISN is currently looking into Assault's, This will provide a new player base within our community, If you are a Assault pilot and dislike Vanguards, Make sure you come into our public channel and ask for some more information. ISN is the most structured of the other Incursion Community's, We have got Mailing lists to keep you updated, We also have a Online Pos in each Incursion to keep your OGB safe with a consistent supply of Ore for NMC sites, We are by far one of the most strongest Incursion Community's in EVE Online. Will I Lose My 3.7Bill Bhaalgorn?ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander, Please make note that we take screening very seriously at ISN. Note: If Anyone Trying To Apply To ISN That Has A Dodgy Killboard History Of Ganking/Corp Killing Will Be Rejected. Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise, To cut down the amount of time you have to wait, make sure that you link the correct fitting to join our fleets, We have got a index of ISN fittings on a mailing list which is called " ISN Fitting " Once you join this mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with the Index of fittings. If you place your fitting into our public channel and we find that you placed a fake fitting, I.E you have not got the correct Gun's or not carrying Faction Ammo, You will be banned from all ISN channels, Make sure you place the correct fitting when looking for a invite, Don't place fake fittings, You will be caught! Note: You Must Have Teamspeak 3 For Our Fleets. How Does ISN Benefit Me? ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's, That being said if a Logistics D/C's the cap chain is established with the cap backup within seconds, All ISN Fleet Commanders are trained and are made to handle anything EVE Online throws at them.  Vanguards  Assaults  Hosted Teamspeak 3  23/7 Active Fleets  Fitting Advise  Fleet Commander Training  Maxed Off Grid Boosters ISN Requirments: Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Note: We Run Our Fleets With A Maxed OGB At All Times. If you would like to join ISN: Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel. Fitting Advise Make Sure You Are Carrying Logi Drones  Please Insure You Are Using Faction Ammo  Equip A Large Shield Transporter In Your Highslot  Carry The Correct Tracking Scripts And Sensor Scripts  Have A Large Shield Extender In Your Cargo Incase You Do Assaults  Please Keep Your Nanite Paste Full At All Time  If You Need Fitting Advise Join Our Mailing List "ISN Fitting" Or Contact ISN Management If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management: Herr Ronin  Noble Ranger  Kodavor ISN Recruitment Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8If You Use Large Shield Extenders: http://imm.io/ldbzFly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With Any Other Incursion Community
10k Views - More Jelly. |

Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
2
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:06:00 -
[137] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote: It makes me giggle on how much people get Jelly.
The funny fact is: Its all the butthurt people we have Kicked out of ISN, For Instance, Deathfallen, Mr Skagen is his Alt, He is Butthurt.
But if you can please send me a EVE Mail on how you are jelly and how mad you are and describe how you felt at that current time that will amuze me for some momments.
P.S - Thank you for the bumb.
Mature and responsible leadership at it's finest. Sounds like the kind of person I'd risk my multi-billion isk ships with. |

Kodavor
Mine3
6
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:13:00 -
[138] - Quote
He is only 1/3 of the management . Do not make inacurate judgments by looking only at piece of the picture . It is a bad practice . |

Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
2
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:16:00 -
[139] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:He is only 1/3 of the management . Do not make inacurate judgments by looking only at piece of the picture . It is a bad practice . Welcome to ISN, where only some of are management is immature and troll people. It's ok, not everyone can be a good leader. You should think about trimming the fat if even you know it's a fact. |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
27
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:23:00 -
[140] - Quote
Tweety Bird wrote:Kodavor wrote:He is only 1/3 of the management . Do not make inacurate judgments by looking only at piece of the picture . It is a bad practice . Welcome to ISN, where only some of are management is immature and troll people. It's ok, not everyone can be a good leader. You should think about trimming the fat if even you know it's a fact.
You seem Mad, Want a tissue? |
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Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
2
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:25:00 -
[141] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Tweety Bird wrote:Kodavor wrote:He is only 1/3 of the management . Do not make inacurate judgments by looking only at piece of the picture . It is a bad practice . Welcome to ISN, where only some of our management is immature and troll people. It's ok, not everyone can be a good leader. You should think about trimming the fat if even you know it's a fact. You seem Mad, Want a tissue? You seem like a trustworthy fellar, want a job that requires maturity? I mean running an Incursion community doesn't. Also, aren't you a Christian? I guess those things go out the window when you are online. |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
27
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:42:00 -
[142] - Quote
Tweety Bird wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Tweety Bird wrote:Kodavor wrote:He is only 1/3 of the management . Do not make inacurate judgments by looking only at piece of the picture . It is a bad practice . Welcome to ISN, where only some of our management is immature and troll people. It's ok, not everyone can be a good leader. You should think about trimming the fat if even you know it's a fact. You seem Mad, Want a tissue? You seem like a trustworthy fellar, want a job that requires maturity? I mean running an Incursion community doesn't. Also, aren't you a Christian? I guess those things go out the window when you are online.
Maturity, Sure, But if its people like you crying, Im sorry.. I cannot help myself.
Christian? Are you aware that i am a Troll, I mean, You believed that?
Wow. You really are that Gullible. |

Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
2
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:46:00 -
[143] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Maturity, Sure, But if its people like you crying, Im sorry.. I cannot help myself.
Christian? Are you aware that i am a Troll, I mean, You believed that?
Wow. You really are that Gullible.
So let me get this straight, you only have maturity when you need to pretend to, mock religions, and admit to being a troll and condone personal insults. How can I join the ISN community? It sounds like the place the pilot of an expensive ship seeking to make Isk needs to be. |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
27
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:56:00 -
[144] - Quote
Tweety Bird wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Maturity, Sure, But if its people like you crying, Im sorry.. I cannot help myself.
Christian? Are you aware that i am a Troll, I mean, You believed that?
Wow. You really are that Gullible. So let me get this straight, you only have maturity when you need to pretend to, mock religions, and admit to being a troll and condone personal insults. How can I join the ISN community? It sounds like the place the pilot of an expensive ship seeking to make Isk needs to be.
Well considering you are Blacklisted from all Incursion Community's, That Statement is rather cute.
Continue with the free bumbing.
Its awesome.
Just a Fyi, Everyone in the Incursion World knows am a troll, get with the crowd suger pie.
<3
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Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
2
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:59:00 -
[145] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote: Well considering you are Blacklisted from all Incursion Community's, That Statement is rather cute.
Continue with the free bumbing.
Its awesome.
Just a Fyi, Everyone in the Incursion World knows am a troll, get with the crowd suger pie.
<3
He gave up when a real troll appeared and left the thread. v0v |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
27
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:12:00 -
[146] - Quote
Tweety Bird wrote:Herr Ronin wrote: Well considering you are Blacklisted from all Incursion Community's, That Statement is rather cute.
Continue with the free bumbing.
Its awesome.
Just a Fyi, Everyone in the Incursion World knows am a troll, get with the crowd suger pie.
<3
He gave up when a real troll appeared and he left the thread. v0v Also, I'm not a grammar/spelling N azi, but sheesh get the rage typing in check. If it's not rage typing spend time on your English. It's almost unreadable.
Well its a good thing you have got spell check on the EVE Online Forums then, I mean some of the grammar ingame, I think you need to make a forum thread to CCP for a ingame spell checker.
It might improve your trolling, I won't promise anything.
Regardless, Have fun in Public fleets.
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Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
2
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:18:00 -
[147] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Well its a good thing you have got spell check on the EVE Online Forums then, I mean some of the grammar ingame, I think you need to make a forum thread to CCP for a ingame spell checker.
It might improve your trolling, I won't promise anything.
Regardless, Have fun in Public fleets.
That's your reply? Making an excuse for having bad English? How about respond to the community for your immaturity and bad posting?
Also, I am glad this game doesn't have alts or someone might be able to join fleets when being blacklisted on other toons.
Regardless, Have fun being a "leader" and "troll." |

Devil's Call
Perkone Caldari State
746
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:20:00 -
[148] - Quote
I am an troll as well.  |

Cpt'Smoker
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:24:00 -
[149] - Quote
Can i be a troll ? |

Devil's Call
Perkone Caldari State
746
|
Posted - 2012.04.18 19:24:00 -
[150] - Quote
Cpt'Smoker wrote:Can i be a troll ?
an* troll |
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Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
27
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:39:00 -
[151] - Quote
Lets all hold Hands!
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Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
2
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:42:00 -
[152] - Quote
NPC corp alt spam followed by an attempt at humor. This thread is over and I claim victory.
gfgfgfgfgfgfgfgf m8m8m8m8m8 |

Cpt'Smoker
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:43:00 -
[153] - Quote
* |

tastinn
Eternal Perseverance HYDRA RELOADED
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:45:00 -
[154] - Quote
HAAAAZEEEED |

Gianath
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
1
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:57:00 -
[155] - Quote
Ugh, I've been wanting to go try out incursions, but the 48 day timeframe to specialize in T2 guns to qualify for this group is a killer and will seriously cut into my current training gameplans. I guess that's what I get for focusing mostly on missiles and drones when I was young.
I don't suppose you'd allow faction T1 guns on a vindie/nightmare/mach if everything else meets the requirements? |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
27
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Posted - 2012.04.18 20:01:00 -
[156] - Quote
Gianath wrote:Ugh, I've been wanting to go try out incursions, but the 48 day timeframe to specialize in T2 guns to qualify for this group is a killer and will seriously cut into my current training gameplans. I guess that's what I get for focusing mostly on missiles and drones when I was young.
I don't suppose you'd allow faction T1 guns on a vindie/nightmare/mach if everything else meets the requirements?
We have got a Faction List, Please EVE Mail Myself, Noble Ranger Or Kodavor.
Regards. |

Devil's Call
Perkone Caldari State
746
|
Posted - 2012.04.18 20:34:00 -
[157] - Quote
Tweety Bird wrote:NPC corp alt spam followed by an attempt at humor. This thread is over and I claim victory.
gfgfgfgfgfgfgfgf m8m8m8m8m8
Who's alt are you again? *Trollface* |

skagen watch
skagen watch Corporation
1
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Posted - 2012.04.19 14:36:00 -
[158] - Quote
ISN Management is pretty bad. All characters that were started around 2010 with clearly no knowledge of in game mechanics. They were rejecting participants in Incursions because people were bringing Faction Phased Plasma L and Fusion L instead of Faction EMP L. Dumb. Most of the people rejected are due to lack of skills, and believe me, you are not participating in a community, ISN is simply using you to fill in the gaps in their participation.
Due to the nature of the their terrible management, they have also painted themselves as targets for most griefers. Enjoy risking you shiny billion isk battleships.
Kodavor - Some really awkward Russian that was abused by his father in the past. Babbles in the most incoherent monotone voice ever while scanning everyone down in their ships. This man is also the most passive aggressive individual I've ever encountered. Any issues and nothing will get brought up to you, he'll go through back channels and get everyone to act on his behalf. Also your pvp alt? http://eveboard.com/pilot/Xeda_Jotan Ya, not to hard to track down. You recently purchased that character as of February.
Herr Ronin- Terrible. Absolutely nothing of value here. Spends most of his time in stations because he's constantly getting wardecced. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Luna_Haywire
Bought that carrier because, I can only assume, he thought that all those drone points would be worth something. Hilariously enough, he spend 12B isk on a that character for logistics... Money well spent ronin, money well spent.
Noble Ranger- Fairly diplomatic, nice guy. Nothing too bad you can say about him except for he hangs out with the 2 douchiest carebears in EVE.
Conclusion, you get what you paid for. ISN was started by Me 1st and had a few contributors like Kieth Planck. These two actually had an understanding of in game mechanics. Sadly just about everyone of them is a troll, Me 1st running of with a few measly isk and Kieth simply not willing to put the effort into reforming such a group. Thus you have the three stooges stepping up and taking over the community of ISN. Join ISN if you wish, but it will all be over soon anyways thus this thread is pretty much moot. |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
27
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Posted - 2012.04.19 18:25:00 -
[159] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:What is ISN?Incursion Shiny Network, Arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion Vanguard/Assault sites. ISN is currently looking into Assault's, This will provide a new player base within our community, If you are a Assault pilot and dislike Vanguards, Make sure you come into our public channel and ask for some more information. ISN is the most structured of the other Incursion Community's, We have got Mailing lists to keep you updated, We also have a Online Pos in each Incursion to keep your OGB safe with a consistent supply of Ore for NMC sites, We are by far one of the most strongest Incursion Community's in EVE Online. Will I Lose My 3.7Bill Bhaalgorn?ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander, Please make note that we take screening very seriously at ISN. Note: If Anyone Trying To Apply To ISN That Has A Dodgy Killboard History Of Ganking/Corp Killing Will Be Rejected. Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise, To cut down the amount of time you have to wait, make sure that you link the correct fitting to join our fleets, We have got a index of ISN fittings on a mailing list which is called " ISN Fitting " Once you join this mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with the Index of fittings. If you place your fitting into our public channel and we find that you placed a fake fitting, I.E you have not got the correct Gun's or not carrying Faction Ammo, You will be banned from all ISN channels, Make sure you place the correct fitting when looking for a invite, Don't place fake fittings, You will be caught! Note: You Must Have Teamspeak 3 For Our Fleets. How Does ISN Benefit Me? ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's, That being said if a Logistics D/C's the cap chain is established with the cap backup within seconds, All ISN Fleet Commanders are trained and are made to handle anything EVE Online throws at them.  Vanguards  Assaults  Hosted Teamspeak 3  23/7 Active Fleets  Fitting Advise  Fleet Commander Training  Maxed Off Grid Boosters ISN Requirments: Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Note: We Run Our Fleets With A Maxed OGB At All Times. If you would like to join ISN: Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel. Fitting Advise Make Sure You Are Carrying Logi Drones  Please Insure You Are Using Faction Ammo  Equip A Large Shield Transporter In Your Highslot  Carry The Correct Tracking Scripts And Sensor Scripts  Have A Large Shield Extender In Your Cargo Incase You Do Assaults  Please Keep Your Nanite Paste Full At All Time  If You Need Fitting Advise Join Our Mailing List "ISN Fitting" Or Contact ISN Management If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management: Herr Ronin  Noble Ranger  Kodavor ISN Recruitment Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8If You Use Large Shield Extenders: http://imm.io/ldbzFly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With Any Other Incursion Community
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Keith Planck
The Great and Powerful Corporation
118
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Posted - 2012.04.20 03:03:00 -
[160] - Quote
"Herr Ronin- Terrible. Absolutely nothing of value here. Spends most of his time in stations because he's constantly getting wardecced."
I like Ronin, hes a good FC and was always super nice to me :3 his friends just won't let him be friends with me anymore... :( |
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Kodavor
Mine3
7
|
Posted - 2012.04.20 07:53:00 -
[161] - Quote
There are no onesided decissions in ISN . So far all things that have been done were with a 3/3 agreement . |

Keith Planck
The Great and Powerful Corporation
123
|
Posted - 2012.04.20 07:56:00 -
[162] - Quote
skagen watch wrote:and had a few contributors like Kieth Planck. These two actually had an understanding of in game mechanics. Sadly just about everyone of them is a troll, Me 1st running of with a few measly isk and Kieth simply not willing to put the effort into reforming such a group.
You made me feel all fuzzy and warm inside :3 thank you As for reforming, I kinda tried to make SFO into what ISN was but I REALLY needed a break from EvE to do schoolwork and play some games I had backlogged... AND watch Game of Thrones <3
Comparing me with Me 1st isn't cool though :/ |

Kodavor
Mine3
7
|
Posted - 2012.04.21 16:35:00 -
[163] - Quote
Here , there be tigers . |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
27
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Posted - 2012.04.22 10:56:00 -
[164] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:What is ISN?Incursion Shiny Network, Arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion Vanguard/Assault sites. ISN is currently looking into Assault's, This will provide a new player base within our community, If you are a Assault pilot and dislike Vanguards, Make sure you come into our public channel and ask for some more information. ISN is the most structured of the other Incursion Community's, We have got Mailing lists to keep you updated, We also have a Online Pos in each Incursion to keep your OGB safe with a consistent supply of Ore for NMC sites, We are by far one of the most strongest Incursion Community's in EVE Online. Will I Lose My 3.7Bill Bhaalgorn?ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander, Please make note that we take screening very seriously at ISN. Note: If Anyone Trying To Apply To ISN That Has A Dodgy Killboard History Of Ganking/Corp Killing Will Be Rejected. Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise, To cut down the amount of time you have to wait, make sure that you link the correct fitting to join our fleets, We have got a index of ISN fittings on a mailing list which is called " ISN Fitting " Once you join this mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with the Index of fittings. If you place your fitting into our public channel and we find that you placed a fake fitting, I.E you have not got the correct Gun's or not carrying Faction Ammo, You will be banned from all ISN channels, Make sure you place the correct fitting when looking for a invite, Don't place fake fittings, You will be caught! Note: You Must Have Teamspeak 3 For Our Fleets. How Does ISN Benefit Me? ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's, That being said if a Logistics D/C's the cap chain is established with the cap backup within seconds, All ISN Fleet Commanders are trained and are made to handle anything EVE Online throws at them.  Vanguards  Assaults  Hosted Teamspeak 3  23/7 Active Fleets  Fitting Advise  Fleet Commander Training  Maxed Off Grid Boosters ISN Requirments: Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Note: We Run Our Fleets With A Maxed OGB At All Times. If you would like to join ISN: Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel. Fitting Advise Make Sure You Are Carrying Logi Drones  Please Insure You Are Using Faction Ammo  Equip A Large Shield Transporter In Your Highslot  Carry The Correct Tracking Scripts And Sensor Scripts  Have A Large Shield Extender In Your Cargo Incase You Do Assaults  Please Keep Your Nanite Paste Full At All Time  If You Need Fitting Advise Join Our Mailing List "ISN Fitting" Or Contact ISN Management If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management: Herr Ronin  Noble Ranger  Kodavor ISN Recruitment Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8If You Use Large Shield Extenders: http://imm.io/ldbzFly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With Any Other Incursion Community
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Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
28
|
Posted - 2012.04.26 15:41:00 -
[165] - Quote
Still Recruiting For Our Community!
Join Our Ingame Channel - ISN Secondary
Regards |

Keith Planck
The Great and Powerful Corporation
200
|
Posted - 2012.04.26 19:00:00 -
[166] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Still Recruiting For Our Community!
Join Our Ingame Channel - ISN Secondary
Regards
you know you can edit the original post :P |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
28
|
Posted - 2012.04.26 20:07:00 -
[167] - Quote
Keith Planck wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Still Recruiting For Our Community!
Join Our Ingame Channel - ISN Secondary
Regards you know you can edit the original post :P
That would not be a bumb then my boy. |

Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
20
|
Posted - 2012.04.26 23:36:00 -
[168] - Quote
Sounds interesting. I don't have overheating skills up to snuff, but I'll ask more about that in-channel. See ya online. |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
28
|
Posted - 2012.04.27 11:14:00 -
[169] - Quote
Urgg Boolean wrote:Sounds interesting. I don't have overheating skills up to snuff, but I'll ask more about that in-channel. See ya online.
Sounds like a plan, Ask any questions you wish, Ill see you in the Public channel sometime. |

Just Alter
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
51
|
Posted - 2012.04.27 12:21:00 -
[170] - Quote
You still run incursions?
Are you not put off by the nerf? |
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Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
28
|
Posted - 2012.04.27 12:25:00 -
[171] - Quote
Just Alter wrote:You still run incursions?
Are you not put off by the nerf?
We just Adapt to the Nerf as needed, It isn't a problem, Just need to find new way's to Blitz them, All takes time.
We are still running as allways. |

Herr Ronin
Malum Crusis
29
|
Posted - 2012.05.01 11:10:00 -
[172] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:What is ISN?Incursion Shiny Network, Arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion Vanguard/Assault sites. ISN is currently looking into Assault's, This will provide a new player base within our community, If you are a Assault pilot and dislike Vanguards, Make sure you come into our public channel and ask for some more information. ISN is the most structured of the other Incursion Community's, We have got Mailing lists to keep you updated, We also have a Online Pos in each Incursion to keep your OGB safe with a consistent supply of Ore for NMC sites, We are by far one of the most strongest Incursion Community's in EVE Online. Will I Lose My 3.7Bill Bhaalgorn?ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander, Please make note that we take screening very seriously at ISN. Note: If Anyone Trying To Apply To ISN That Has A Dodgy Killboard History Of Ganking/Corp Killing Will Be Rejected. Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise, To cut down the amount of time you have to wait, make sure that you link the correct fitting to join our fleets, We have got a index of ISN fittings on a mailing list which is called " ISN Fitting " Once you join this mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with the Index of fittings. If you place your fitting into our public channel and we find that you placed a fake fitting, I.E you have not got the correct Gun's or not carrying Faction Ammo, You will be banned from all ISN channels, Make sure you place the correct fitting when looking for a invite, Don't place fake fittings, You will be caught! Note: You Must Have Teamspeak 3 For Our Fleets. How Does ISN Benefit Me? ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's, That being said if a Logistics D/C's the cap chain is established with the cap backup within seconds, All ISN Fleet Commanders are trained and are made to handle anything EVE Online throws at them.  Vanguards  Assaults  Hosted Teamspeak 3  23/7 Active Fleets  Fitting Advise  Fleet Commander Training  Maxed Off Grid Boosters ISN Requirments: Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Note: We Run Our Fleets With A Maxed OGB At All Times. If you would like to join ISN: Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel. Fitting Advise Make Sure You Are Carrying Logi Drones  Please Insure You Are Using Faction Ammo  Equip A Large Shield Transporter In Your Highslot  Carry The Correct Tracking Scripts And Sensor Scripts  Have A Large Shield Extender In Your Cargo Incase You Do Assaults  Please Keep Your Nanite Paste Full At All Time  If You Need Fitting Advise Join Our Mailing List "ISN Fitting" Or Contact ISN Management If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management: Herr Ronin  Noble Ranger  Kodavor ISN Recruitment Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8If You Use Large Shield Extenders: http://imm.io/ldbzFly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With Any Other Incursion Community
Oh... What Does This Button Do...?
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ISN Spy spizors
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:25:00 -
[173] - Quote
Thanks for the fleet Herr. Always a pleasure to hear 4-5 people screaming as their 5 billion isk nightmares go up in flames ^o^ |

Kodavor
Mine3
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.01 18:29:00 -
[174] - Quote
Lies . It's Empire . Nobody dies in Empire ! It's risk free you know . Also I haven't heard of anybody losing a Nightmare . |

ISN Spy spizors
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.01 21:30:00 -
[175] - Quote
you mean that OTA that we went into without an anchor and it was proloaded and both logis got jammed and we lost 4 nightmares and a mach was in my imagination???
I dont ignore an FCs order to hit the gate often, but when i do, im usually right. |

Kodavor
Mine3
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.02 05:39:00 -
[176] - Quote
There haven't been a single fleet , that I know of , on ISN comms doing Vanguards . We stopped doing those . All the late fleets have been for assaults only . Any fleet that is done outside of ISN comms is not an ISN fleet . |

ISN Spy spizors
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.02 07:01:00 -
[177] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:There haven't been a single fleet , that I know of , on ISN comms doing Vanguards . We stopped doing those . All the late fleets have been for assaults only . Any fleet that is done outside of ISN comms is not an ISN fleet .
It was Herr Ronin on ISN comms in what appeared to be his first vanguard fleet since the patch, he said we were testing them out |

Kodavor
Mine3
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.02 07:14:00 -
[178] - Quote
When was this ? Will poke him about it . |

ISN Spy spizors
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
|
Posted - 2012.05.02 07:24:00 -
[179] - Quote
when was the last time you ran a fleet kodaver |

Kodavor
Mine3
9
|
Posted - 2012.05.02 07:26:00 -
[180] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:When was this ? Will poke him about it .
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goldiiee
Superior Ratio High Sec Dropouts
0
|
Posted - 2012.05.02 08:19:00 -
[181] - Quote
Interesting that you say you were in an ISN fleet. The incident that I assume you are talking about happened 3 days ago in the Sib incursion if I remember right, and it was a public fleet not an ISN fleet screaming in local as they watched thier isk got up in smoke. If it had been an ISN fleet the battleships would have started a spider tank as we have doen countless times before and popped the niarja's then continued on as normal without even entering so much as a sigh in local.Ronin is guilty of being an incorigable troll but never a fool, this would not nor has it ever happened in an ISN fleet. I am sure EvE has a fiction section where stories are greatly appreciated and often read, find them and have fun. |

Herr Ronin
Malum Crusis
29
|
Posted - 2012.05.02 15:20:00 -
[182] - Quote
ISN Spy spizors wrote:Thanks for the fleet Herr. Always a pleasure to hear 4-5 people screaming as their 5 billion isk nightmares go up in flames ^o^
Haha, another hater, There is a diffrence between "Pubic Fleets" And "ISN Fleet's"
Before you post on this thread make sure you have got your point correct, It makes you look like a fool.
Are people this mad with ISN because we are successful? Making up thing's that did not happen is getting rather old in this thread, I think am rather bored due to this fact.
Love My Haters. ( Please EVE-Mail Me With Your Tears ) Management Of ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
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Herr Ronin
Malum Crusis
29
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Posted - 2012.05.04 16:25:00 -
[183] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:What is ISN?Incursion Shiny Network, Arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion Vanguard/Assault sites. ISN is currently looking into Assault's, This will provide a new player base within our community, If you are a Assault pilot and dislike Vanguards, Make sure you come into our public channel and ask for some more information. ISN is the most structured of the other Incursion Community's, We have got Mailing lists to keep you updated, We also have a Online Pos in each Incursion to keep your OGB safe with a consistent supply of Ore for NMC sites, We are by far one of the most strongest Incursion Community's in EVE Online. Will I Lose My 3.7Bill Bhaalgorn?ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander, Please make note that we take screening very seriously at ISN. Note: If Anyone Trying To Apply To ISN That Has A Dodgy Killboard History Of Ganking/Corp Killing Will Be Rejected. Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise, To cut down the amount of time you have to wait, make sure that you link the correct fitting to join our fleets, We have got a index of ISN fittings on a mailing list which is called " ISN Fitting " Once you join this mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with the Index of fittings. If you place your fitting into our public channel and we find that you placed a fake fitting, I.E you have not got the correct Gun's or not carrying Faction Ammo, You will be banned from all ISN channels, Make sure you place the correct fitting when looking for a invite, Don't place fake fittings, You will be caught! Note: You Must Have Teamspeak 3 For Our Fleets. How Does ISN Benefit Me? ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's, That being said if a Logistics D/C's the cap chain is established with the cap backup within seconds, All ISN Fleet Commanders are trained and are made to handle anything EVE Online throws at them.  Vanguards  Assaults  Hosted Teamspeak 3  23/7 Active Fleets  Fitting Advise  Fleet Commander Training  Maxed Off Grid Boosters ISN Requirments: Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Note: We Run Our Fleets With A Maxed OGB At All Times. If you would like to join ISN: Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel. Fitting Advise Make Sure You Are Carrying Logi Drones  Please Insure You Are Using Faction Ammo  Equip A Large Shield Transporter In Your Highslot  Carry The Correct Tracking Scripts And Sensor Scripts  Have A Large Shield Extender In Your Cargo Incase You Do Assaults  Please Keep Your Nanite Paste Full At All Time  If You Need Fitting Advise Join Our Mailing List "ISN Fitting" Or Contact ISN Management If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management: Herr Ronin  Noble Ranger  Kodavor ISN Recruitment Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8If You Use Large Shield Extenders: http://imm.io/ldbzFly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With Any Other Incursion Community
Management Of ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
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ISN Spy spizors
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.05.05 09:05:00 -
[184] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:ISN Spy spizors wrote:Thanks for the fleet Herr. Always a pleasure to hear 4-5 people screaming as their 5 billion isk nightmares go up in flames ^o^ Haha, another hater, There is a diffrence between "Pubic Fleets" And "ISN Fleet's" Before you post on this thread make sure you have got your point correct, It makes you look like a fool. Are people this mad with ISN because we are successful? Making up thing's that did not happen is getting rather old in this thread, I think am rather bored due to this fact. Love My Haters. ( Please EVE-Mail Me With Your Tears )
This was defiantly an ISN fleet, on ISN comms, that I got into by posting my ship in ISN Primary, that lost ships in an OTA with Herr Ronin as the FC.
Trolling is one thing but your starting to sound less like a funny troll and more like something you'd find in a griefers profile... |

Just Alter
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
95
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Posted - 2012.05.05 15:00:00 -
[185] - Quote
ISN Spy spizors wrote:
This was defiantly an ISN fleet, on ISN comms, that I got into by posting my ship in ISN Primary, that lost ships in an OTA with Herr Ronin as the FC.
Trolling is one thing but your starting to sound less like a funny troll and more like something you'd find in a griefers profile...
Some proofs maybe?
A screen, a video, a chat log, a kill mail , anything at all?
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Herr Ronin
Malum Crusis
31
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Posted - 2012.05.05 17:51:00 -
[186] - Quote
Just Alter wrote:ISN Spy spizors wrote:
This was defiantly an ISN fleet, on ISN comms, that I got into by posting my ship in ISN Primary, that lost ships in an OTA with Herr Ronin as the FC.
Trolling is one thing but your starting to sound less like a funny troll and more like something you'd find in a griefers profile...
Some proofs maybe? A screen, a video, a chat log, a kill mail , anything at all?
You beat me to it Just Alter!
This is the thing, I have not been running Incursions for a while now due to i have no interest at this current time, If you can provide these simple things then even i will believe you, I am known as many thing's, A Idiot, The Guy Who Trolls In Local, The Moron, But i can insure you i do not Grief my own community.
This is rather stupid, ISN is one of the things in EVE Online that i take 100% pride in, Everyone in ISN knows that i am a Troll, Not a griefer.
As i said if you can provide the following:
Screen Shot's - With ISN Members In The Fleet It Was On ISN Comm's Chat Log's KillMails With ISN Fittings
If you wish to have a discussion with me on TS3 or Convo, Please let me know, I am interested in what your purpose in this is?
Regards Management Of ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
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Kodavor
Mine3
11
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Posted - 2012.05.05 21:52:00 -
[187] - Quote
Quote:This was defiantly an ISN fleet, on ISN comms, that I got into by posting my ship in ISN Primary, that lost ships in an OTA with Herr Ronin as the FC.
Trolling is one thing but your starting to sound less like a funny troll and more like something you'd find in a griefers profile...
And why do you hide ? " Oh noooo ! I won't tell you my name . Itza siikreet ! ...
What is the characters name that you were in that fleet with ? ( If you were there at all ) |

Srixun
Jericho Proelium TOTAL.DEPRAVITY
0
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Posted - 2012.05.08 14:20:00 -
[188] - Quote
First time I flew with these guys, we had a troll fc, Tweety BIrd was the FC's name, int he ISN alliance.
Lost a 1.4b isk vindicator, even through their screening process of members, 7 of us lost our ships due to tweety birds troll FC'ing.
When I first spoke to Herr Ronin, he called me a liar, and told me i was trying to scam them. Until a wardec threat was thrown out by myself and i left channel in a rage, then I was convo'd by the leadership there, and herr was present, and they did listen to the situation, was told it would be looked into, Which they did do.
I sent them chat logs of what happened. everything going on and had other members that lost thier ships join in to speak about the incident. was treated kind of second priority, which is fine, I just remember everything that goes on with isk. :P
However, 3.5 weeks later, after they had looked into everything and had everything set up, I convo Herr Ronin to ask what is going on with everything, He has me send my KM to Noble Ranger,. And in return i am sent a faction scram (republic) anda gyrostab of the same faction, and the situation was considered resolved.
My recomendation is that this fleet has potential and I believe the core organization itself is good, however, be careful to follow all the rules and make sure you fly in thier channel under thier terms, else you will be put ont he backburner with anything you say.
Herr has worked with me and actually gave me items back, from my wreck (the 2 listed prior) when they didnt need to do anything.
But they also have booted Tweety Birds corp from the alliance/channel.
Keep in mind Tweety Bird was flying under thier colors when this happened and now they say he was not part of them.
Be weary on whom you fly with in incursions. I fly with Antigamers only from this point on.
KM - http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13091900 |

Kodavor
Mine3
12
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:22:00 -
[189] - Quote
Tweety Bird was never an ISN FC . He was a plain member . The fleet was not on ISN comms and was not led by an ISN FC therefore it was not an ISN fleet . Yes , we booted him from the members as soon as we got the info .
I am sorry about your loss . EvE is scam friendly . This turned out to be a fleet scam . We can't have a dictatorship controll over people and for that reason :
Quote: ... be careful to follow all the rules and make sure you fly in thier channel under thier terms ...
We made more then one " enemy " pre-patch and the guidelines are there for your own safety . |

Srixun
Jericho Proelium TOTAL.DEPRAVITY
0
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:29:00 -
[190] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Tweety Bird was never an ISN FC . He was a plain member . The fleet was not on ISN comms and was not led by an ISN FC therefore it was not an ISN fleet . Yes , we booted him from the members as soon as we got the info . I am sorry about your loss . EvE is scam friendly . This turned out to be a fleet scam . We can't have a dictatorship controll over people and for that reason : Quote: ... be careful to follow all the rules and make sure you fly in thier channel under thier terms ... We made more then one " enemy " pre-patch and the guidelines are there for your own safety .
Still flew, and FC'd under your name, so as far as basic look is considered, He was an FC of ISN.
Its hard to control members, this is true. but you all still accepted and let him fly with you.
same with any organization, If a rep (under the same name, banner and ID) goes out on behalf of a company, and acts like a total dumbass, Like tweety, then the company, regardless of how good or nice they are, gets a tarnished record. So, he my not have been this or that or this. but he still FC'd under your banner, with your names, and you all accepted him, therefor, he was an FC of youre, altho maybe not an "official" one. |
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Kodavor
Mine3
12
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:46:00 -
[191] - Quote
We accepted him as a member . He turned out to be a griefer . He griefed you and others that were in his griefing fleet . My apologies . Awareness is a key factor here . People did not double check him and it turned out very sad . |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
52
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Posted - 2012.05.08 18:28:00 -
[192] - Quote
Srixun wrote:Kodavor wrote:Tweety Bird was never an ISN FC . He was a plain member . The fleet was not on ISN comms and was not led by an ISN FC therefore it was not an ISN fleet . Yes , we booted him from the members as soon as we got the info . I am sorry about your loss . EvE is scam friendly . This turned out to be a fleet scam . We can't have a dictatorship controll over people and for that reason : Quote: ... be careful to follow all the rules and make sure you fly in thier channel under thier terms ... We made more then one " enemy " pre-patch and the guidelines are there for your own safety . Still flew, and FC'd under your name, so as far as basic look is considered, He was an FC of ISN. Its hard to control members, this is true. but you all still accepted and let him fly with you. same with any organization, If a rep (under the same name, banner and ID) goes out on behalf of a company, and acts like a total dumbass, Like tweety, then the company, regardless of how good or nice they are, gets a tarnished record. So, he my not have been this or that or this. but he still FC'd under your banner, with your names, and you all accepted him, therefor, he was an FC of youre, altho maybe not an "official" one.
Let me correct you, It was not a ISN Fleet, Therefore it was not a ISN Fleet, This is the reason we have this thread so people know if it is a ISN fleet, We use TS3, Mailing List's etc, We do not recruit out of Incursion Local, We are a very strong community, Tweety was just a griefer that slipped in.
May i add, This is EVE Online.
Take Note of it.
I am glad it all sorted out in the end, I hope to see you in the space lanes!
Fly Fast o7 Management Of ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
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Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
2
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Posted - 2012.05.09 03:13:00 -
[193] - Quote
Hi. |

Kodavor
Mine3
12
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Posted - 2012.05.09 04:39:00 -
[194] - Quote
io |

Kodavor
Mine3
12
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:31:00 -
[195] - Quote
Sveiki . |

Swift Kaos
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.05.11 09:17:00 -
[196] - Quote
Lietuvis? Or just a random mix of letters? |

Herr Ronin
ISN - Management ISN - Incursion Shiny Network
71
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Posted - 2012.05.11 13:28:00 -
[197] - Quote
Swift Kaos wrote:Lietuvis? Or just a random mix of letters?
He's odd like that.
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Kodavor
Mine3
13
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Posted - 2012.05.11 15:57:00 -
[198] - Quote
Swift Kaos wrote:Lietuvis? Or just a random mix of letters?
Labas %)
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knobber Jobbler
164
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:33:00 -
[199] - Quote
I've done plenty of incursions with ISN and never had any problems. Always challenge, always win ;) |

Kodavor
Mine3
13
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Posted - 2012.05.13 15:50:00 -
[200] - Quote
I saw her . |
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Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade Negative Zone
72
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Posted - 2012.05.13 16:36:00 -
[201] - Quote
Much Love. | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Kodavor
Mine3
14
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Posted - 2012.05.14 21:57:00 -
[202] - Quote
Poison apples . |

Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade Negative Zone
75
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:29:00 -
[203] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:What is ISN?Incursion Shiny Network, Arguably the strongest and most populated of the three major vanguard shield groups. (ISN, SSN, sUmmer) It is an ingame channel that focuses on acquiring isk with many laughs from incursion Vanguard/Assault sites. ISN is currently looking into Assault's, This will provide a new player base within our community, If you are a Assault pilot and dislike Vanguards, Make sure you come into our public channel and ask for some more information. ISN is the most structured of the other Incursion Community's, We have got Mailing lists to keep you updated, We also have a Online Pos in each Incursion to keep your OGB safe with a consistent supply of Ore for NMC sites, We are by far one of the most strongest Incursion Community's in EVE Online. Will I Lose My 3.7Bill Bhaalgorn?ISN screens all of it's members. This ranges from a simple screening for DPS, Also ranging to screening Logi with putting members who want to step up to become a ISN Fleet Commander, Please make note that we take screening very seriously at ISN. Note: If Anyone Trying To Apply To ISN That Has A Dodgy Killboard History Of Ganking/Corp Killing Will Be Rejected. Does Joining ISN Cost Anything?The only thing that ISN cost's you is time, All you need to do is join "ISN Secondary" our Public channel, From there ask about fittings and advise, To cut down the amount of time you have to wait, make sure that you link the correct fitting to join our fleets, We have got a index of ISN fittings on a mailing list which is called " ISN Fitting " Once you join this mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with the Index of fittings. If you place your fitting into our public channel and we find that you placed a fake fitting, I.E you have not got the correct Gun's or not carrying Faction Ammo, You will be banned from all ISN channels, Make sure you place the correct fitting when looking for a invite, Don't place fake fittings, You will be caught! Note: You Must Have Teamspeak 3 For Our Fleets. How Does ISN Benefit Me? ISN being one of the most effective incursion community's enables you to "X" up in our main channel which gets you into or a waiting list in a ISN fleet, Making 130mill P/Hr without the risk's, That being said if a Logistics D/C's the cap chain is established with the cap backup within seconds, All ISN Fleet Commanders are trained and are made to handle anything EVE Online throws at them.  Vanguards  Assaults  Hosted Teamspeak 3  23/7 Active Fleets  Fitting Advise  Fleet Commander Training  Maxed Off Grid Boosters ISN Requirments: Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%  Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank  T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Note: We Run Our Fleets With A Maxed OGB At All Times. If you would like to join ISN: Join our public channel, "ISN Secondary" From there you will be screened, Once the Fleet Commander is happy with your performance then you will then be invited into our main channel. Fitting Advise Make Sure You Are Carrying Logi Drones  Please Insure You Are Using Faction Ammo  Equip A Large Shield Transporter In Your Highslot  Carry The Correct Tracking Scripts And Sensor Scripts  Have A Large Shield Extender In Your Cargo Incase You Do Assaults  Please Keep Your Nanite Paste Full At All Time  If You Need Fitting Advise Join Our Mailing List "ISN Fitting" Or Contact ISN Management If you need anymore information or have any concerns EVE-Mail ISN Management: Herr Ronin  Noble Ranger  Kodavor ISN Recruitment Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MG__adn8If You Use Large Shield Extenders: http://imm.io/ldbzFly Fast! - ISN Is Not Affiliated With Any Other Incursion Community
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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YuuKnow
343
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:30:00 -
[204] - Quote
Are Loki's used in ISN? I have a Loki with T2 guns and faction webs, but don't know how utilized it will be in ISN. Seems like Legions and BShips are the requirement.
yk |

Herr Ronin
Hi My Name Is Ronin
79
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:12:00 -
[205] - Quote
YuuKnow wrote:Are Loki's used in ISN? I have a Loki with T2 guns and faction webs, but don't know how utilized it will be in ISN. Seems like Legions and BShips are the requirement.
yk
We do, Come into our public channel, Or eve mail me for more Info. | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Faldal Dartan
Cold Steel Evolution Against ALL Authorities
2
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Posted - 2012.06.02 17:50:00 -
[206] - Quote
really cool guys, doing assaults real fast! |

Zane Kaiser
The Red Exhilez Corrosive.
10
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Posted - 2012.06.06 23:34:00 -
[207] - Quote
Would love to fleet with you guys sometime! |

Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
80
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Posted - 2012.06.08 10:59:00 -
[208] - Quote
Zane Kaiser wrote:Would love to fleet with you guys sometime!
What you waiting for then :D | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
80
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:50:00 -
[209] - Quote
Interested, Well you better be! Make sure you join our public channel, If you need anymore Information then contact on of Management. | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
80
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Posted - 2012.06.13 16:31:00 -
[210] - Quote
WTB Slaves! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
80
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:50:00 -
[211] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Herr Ronin Noble Ranger Kodavor
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
80
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Posted - 2012.06.17 12:57:00 -
[212] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Herr Ronin Noble Ranger Kodavor
Nice Little Links: Herr Ronin Is So Mean! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
80
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:09:00 -
[213] - Quote
To The Top! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
80
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Posted - 2012.06.24 22:42:00 -
[214] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Herr Ronin Noble Ranger Kodavor
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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SanZo Fengi
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 11:29:00 -
[215] - Quote
Id like to roll with you guys sometime... Will be joining the public channel asap.
-SanZo- |

Herr Ronin
Angels of Valour The Retirement Club
80
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Posted - 2012.06.26 18:41:00 -
[216] - Quote
SanZo Fengi wrote:Id like to roll with you guys sometime... Will be joining the public channel asap.
-SanZo-
Hope to see you there! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Kodavor
Mine3
14
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Posted - 2012.06.27 10:06:00 -
[217] - Quote
Drjam . |

Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.06.27 11:54:00 -
[218] - Quote
I wish to join, but I'm not giving you my fitting. How do I know your standards aren't ****? |

Kodavor
Mine3
14
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:03:00 -
[219] - Quote
Moonlit Raid wrote:I wish to join, but I'm not giving you my fitting. How do I know your standards aren't ****?
It's not that you can hide it ^^ . All the new pilots are scanned to make sure that they are up to standards .
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.06.27 21:00:00 -
[220] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:I wish to join, but I'm not giving you my fitting. How do I know your standards aren't ****? It's not that you can hide it ^^ . All the new pilots are scanned to make sure that they are up to standards . So what if your standards are ****? |
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Kodavor
Mine3
14
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Posted - 2012.06.28 10:23:00 -
[221] - Quote
Our standards indeed are as you say :) . Among the stars . |

Herr Ronin
Angels of Valour The Retirement Club
80
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Posted - 2012.06.28 13:46:00 -
[222] - Quote
Moonlit Raid wrote:Kodavor wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:I wish to join, but I'm not giving you my fitting. How do I know your standards aren't ****? It's not that you can hide it ^^ . All the new pilots are scanned to make sure that they are up to standards . So what if your standards are ****?
Please join our mailing list called "ISN Fitting"
Lets hope your fitting isn't among the star's | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Kodavor
Mine3
14
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Posted - 2012.06.28 23:24:00 -
[223] - Quote
Iooooooooo iooooooo yooooo yooooo . Giant steps I watch you take walking on the moon ... |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
67
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Posted - 2012.06.28 23:57:00 -
[224] - Quote
X Arty Vargur wl fine :) |

Herr Ronin
Angels of Valour The Retirement Club
80
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Posted - 2012.06.29 08:16:00 -
[225] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Iooooooooo iooooooo yooooo yooooo . Giant steps I watch you take walking on the moon ...
Have had tons of questions Via Skype, If you want to get more info out of game, Add me on Skype!
Skype Name: Herr-Ronin
Regards | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Kodavor
Mine3
14
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:57:00 -
[226] - Quote
Nuumods |

Ms Bax
Union Of EVE
6
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Posted - 2012.07.03 17:15:00 -
[227] - Quote
Fleeted with them for a couple of nights. Professional and good at what they do. Will do it again when I get the opportunity. |

Satougash1
Shells n'Hell
1
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Posted - 2012.07.03 19:38:00 -
[228] - Quote
Well I read your thread, and I am sure I already know the answer, but do you ever run armour fleets? |

Kodavor
Mine3
14
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Posted - 2012.07.03 20:13:00 -
[229] - Quote
Noes % ) |

Herr Ronin
Angels of Valour The Retirement Club
80
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Posted - 2012.07.04 14:57:00 -
[230] - Quote
Satougash1 wrote:Well I read your thread, and I am sure I already know the answer, but do you ever run armour fleets?
I'm afraid not buddy, Start training those shield skills! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Kodavor
Mine3
17
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:03:00 -
[231] - Quote
For he said : " KURATOR IS PRIMARY ! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU ?!? " |

Herr Ronin
Angels of Valour The Retirement Club
81
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Posted - 2012.07.09 17:38:00 -
[232] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Herr Ronin Noble Ranger Kodavor
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Angels of Valour The Retirement Club
81
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Posted - 2012.07.10 17:01:00 -
[233] - Quote
ISN Secondary, Join the channel and get earning some Isk! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Zim Hakkar
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
2
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Posted - 2012.07.11 01:34:00 -
[234] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:ISN Secondary, Join the channel and get earning some Isk!
Isk! Weeee |

Lion Kell
An Indonesian Only Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:38:00 -
[235] - Quote
thanks for picking up my werck....i gonna remember it...thank to kodavor and ISN |

Kodavor
Mine3
18
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:56:00 -
[236] - Quote
Lion Kell wrote:thanks for picking up my werck....i gonna remember it...thank to kodavor and ISN 
io . Plese do not try to solo a NCF in a Tengu in future >.< . Be well . |

Herr Ronin
Angels of Valour The Retirement Club
206
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Posted - 2012.07.12 17:13:00 -
[237] - Quote
Almost 20k Views! \o/ | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.07.12 23:40:00 -
[238] - Quote
See ya when I get there (training skills)
Also, Friendly bump. |

Herr Ronin
Angels of Valour The Retirement Club
207
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Posted - 2012.07.13 14:02:00 -
[239] - Quote
Flurk Hellbron wrote:See ya when I get there (training skills)
Also, Friendly bump.
Looking forward to it! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Chandra K'ailar
Darkstar Trading Conglomerate Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.07.14 13:06:00 -
[240] - Quote
- Tired of seeing your wallet only with something like 8 or 9 numbers?
- U have one of the ships needed and u dont know what to do?
- Looking for some fun?
There is an answer for your problems, Join "ISN Secondary" and make billions and lots of fun. . .
U will not regret ;)
Fly safe and rich K'ailar
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Herr Ronin
Angels of Valour The Retirement Club
208
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Posted - 2012.07.15 19:42:00 -
[241] - Quote
Shiny Happy People! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Angels of Valour The Retirement Club
208
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Posted - 2012.07.16 12:45:00 -
[242] - Quote
Afternoon Bumbage! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Sykeout
The Abusement Park Black Core Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.07.17 06:39:00 -
[243] - Quote
I <3 ISN flying with these guys is the most fun I have had in EVE in a good long while. Not only is it professional and incredible isk but its a blast. A week ago I had never done an incursion and they still took me in taught me how it was run answered all of my hundreds of questions and now I fleet with them whenever I am online! |

Cloudy Trichome
E-TEAM-USA Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.07.17 19:37:00 -
[244] - Quote
CONGRATS ISN! Popping that mom site was the most fun ive had in weeks! |

goldiiee
Superior Ratio High Sec Dropouts
0
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Posted - 2012.07.17 19:38:00 -
[245] - Quote
Did my first MoM site today took 14 minutes with a fleet of well trained t2 fitted ships. Never came close to losing any fleet members. Love a no stress no hassle fleet with nothing but ISK to show for it.
ISN MoM fleet the best fleet. |

BlackPyroStorm
Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2012.07.17 19:39:00 -
[246] - Quote
Great crowd to fly with, very professional and extremely effective. ISN now doing you moms  |

Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
349
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Posted - 2012.07.17 19:41:00 -
[247] - Quote
despite that ISN is a pony free zone...
They are still pretty badass, especially now after showing that they can take down a mothership. |

Asmoden
Heroes in Vain
0
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Posted - 2012.07.17 19:44:00 -
[248] - Quote
1st mom with ISN. It was totally pain free. |

Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade
208
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Posted - 2012.07.17 20:01:00 -
[249] - Quote
ISN's First Mom!
Woop! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Nituspar
Z-ward
0
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Posted - 2012.07.17 20:28:00 -
[250] - Quote
Good times, the whole thing was quite overly dramatized by TVP though.
Either way great job lads, let's see if the future holds more moms in store for us! |
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Zwo Zateki
Zwo Zateki Corporation
8
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:23:00 -
[251] - Quote
Thank you ISN for being so AWESOME. First MOM!
And kudos to Russian incursion community that joined us in making one more KM extinct  |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
144
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Posted - 2012.07.18 06:02:00 -
[252] - Quote
Congratulations!
And I hope this won't end up with massive ban campaign of participants in TVP (premature mom popping is bannable offense in "classic" communities)... |

Zwo Zateki
Zwo Zateki Corporation
8
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Posted - 2012.07.18 06:59:00 -
[253] - Quote
Lipbite wrote:Congratulations!
And I hope this won't end up with massive ban campaign of participants in TVP (premature mom popping is bannable offense in "classic" communities)... All of us were banned from both TVP and TDF. Not to say that I regret it much.  |

Mexan Caderu
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:01:00 -
[254] - Quote
Premature mom popping lowers isk/h due to higher amount of time spent relocating between incs
jus' sayin' |

Tatiana W1sla
Toxic Subprime Assets Inc. Yulai Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:07:00 -
[255] - Quote
grats guys for the mom, it's been a while since i last flew with you. When this war ends maybe i'll join some sites! |

Chandra K'ailar
Darkstar Trading Conglomerate Inc
2
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:56:00 -
[256] - Quote
Just to say . . . Beatifull and awesome . . .
Hope to see u all in ISN fleets again soon, lets have some fun! ;) Are u new to EVE?
Are u a old player who just got back from a long time stasis?
Check our Public channel, "Darkstar Recruitment" |

Violet Giraffe
Shady Endeavours
8
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Posted - 2012.07.18 10:51:00 -
[257] - Quote
Why did you kill mom prematurely, if I may ask? What are you trying to achieve? |

Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.07.18 14:22:00 -
[258] - Quote
Maybe it was just a test to see if ISN could bring enough ships to do so since it was the 1st mom?
Nice flying !!! Was there, done that.......... |

Rico Ramos
STARMINE inc Solaris Mortis
8
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Posted - 2012.07.18 15:40:00 -
[259] - Quote
no pics? fleet comp? Internet Space Ships is Serious Business |

Violet Giraffe
Shady Endeavours
8
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Posted - 2012.07.18 16:06:00 -
[260] - Quote
Flurk Hellbron wrote:Maybe it was just a test to see if ISN could bring enough ships to do so since it was the 1st mom?
I'm pretty sure there's more to it.
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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.07.18 18:41:00 -
[261] - Quote
Spit it out then? |

goldiiee
Superior Ratio High Sec Dropouts
1
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:25:00 -
[262] - Quote
Nothing more to it. We had just heard of how hard they are and how there is always a collateral loss of at least one Logi, and therefore the cascade of whoever he was capping, and whoever he was repping, so on and so forth like all things in Eve we wanted to see if we could do it with no losses. Mission accomplished we now know that moms are easier than some of the assault site spawns that we alpha off the field before they get anywhere close to optimal.
Sorry to say no evil overlord plot to take the Mom from every active incursion site. No masterminded plan to lure all the noobs in Empire into a fleet and make ISK from their labors. No we never thought we were the 'end all, be all' of the incursion community, and that everyone else would have to bow to our whim, due to some power given us by the self importance of our own minds. No for those people you need to look elsewhere, I would, but I have been banned from their channels and no longer have access to their inner circles. :)
We 'ISN' and anyone that X'ed up with a T2 gun fit or a Logi 5 fit decided to go and see how well we could take down the incredibly difficult MOM site. Yes we were amazed. not at the difficulty but at the fact that we came with to many ships, seems 65 was overkill, 16 Logi's was overkill could have been easily done with 10 less DPS and a full wing of only 10 logi's. But since the site pays for 70 we brought anyone that wanted to see it done. Then we split the loot with anyone that wanted a piece of it smiled at the accomplishment and moved on to the next Incursion, enjoying the new blink in the wallet and the new friends we made in the process.
Ideally we just wanted to see if it could be done. In the end we found out that our efforts were construed as some kind of takeover, and of course the knee-jerk reaction from those that felt threatened was to grab as many rumors and innuendo as possible and start a smear campaign.
I guess I have rambled on long enough, But I would ask that you don't worry about ISN having some master plan but maybe look to find the reason that so many people want you to think we had a plan and why it bothered them enough to ban, smear, and ridicule, another group doing the same thing they do, only better.
See Mountain Climb Mountain Look for Next Mountain
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Herr Ronin
Nova Cascade
208
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:32:00 -
[263] - Quote
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg
Just a quick link XD | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Bozl1n
Shiva The Retirement Club
2
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Posted - 2012.07.18 22:40:00 -
[264] - Quote
Violet Giraffe wrote:Why did you kill mom prematurely, if I may ask? What are you trying to achieve?
We achived what we set out to do, see if we could form the numbers to take down a MOM site.
Can i ask anybody butthurt by this - what were we "supposed" to do?
Wrtie a nice letter "asking your permission"??
Lol EDIT - Cos i cant type |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
146
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Posted - 2012.07.18 22:41:00 -
[265] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg
Just a quick link XD
I've heard some incursion runners aren't exactly hi-sec carebears but grinding money to sponsor their PvP activities. I hope they have healthy sense of humor and will laugh on this funny pic instead of turning ISN pilots into war targets. |

LanFear TyRaX
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
6
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Posted - 2012.07.18 22:57:00 -
[266] - Quote
it's a good start but so 2011 . Next time try doing something new. |

Kodavor
Mine3
19
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Posted - 2012.07.19 06:44:00 -
[267] - Quote
LanFear TyRaX wrote:it's a good start but so 2011 . Next time try doing something new.
Greetings Mr.Fear . So you say it's " 2011 " ? And try to do something new ? I'll shorten down your own sentence and turn it back to you .
" Try to do something " .
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Kodavor
Mine3
19
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Posted - 2012.07.19 06:46:00 -
[268] - Quote
Lipbite wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg
Just a quick link XD I've heard some incursion runners aren't exactly hi-sec carebears but grinding money to sponsor their PvP activities. I hope they have healthy sense of humor and will laugh on this funny pic instead of turning ISN pilots into war targets.
io
True . We have many of those in ISN . |

LanFear TyRaX
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
6
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Posted - 2012.07.19 06:52:00 -
[269] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:LanFear TyRaX wrote:it's a good start but so 2011 . Next time try doing something new. Greetings Mr.Fear . So you say it's " 2011 " ? And try to do something new ? I'll shorten down your own sentence and turn it back to you . " Try to do something " .
we did, apparently you didn't run incursions at the time of interdictions or you're just plain ignorant, a little bit of search can enlighten you and save you from embarrassment next time. |

Kodavor
Mine3
19
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Posted - 2012.07.19 07:01:00 -
[270] - Quote
LanFear TyRaX wrote:Kodavor wrote:LanFear TyRaX wrote:it's a good start but so 2011 . Next time try doing something new. Greetings Mr.Fear . So you say it's " 2011 " ? And try to do something new ? I'll shorten down your own sentence and turn it back to you . " Try to do something " . we did, apparently you didn't run incursions at the time of interdictions or you're just plain ignorant, a little bit of search can enlighten you and save you from embarrassment next time.
What is this embarrassment that you speak of ? I saw 3 TVP FC's on grid while we did or first Kundulini site . One of them even tried to ninjaloot the mothership >.< . I guess the ISK is runing low in your " Basi replacement fund " . There were no other activities from any other parties . So no - " You " did not " Try to do something " .
Please read Goldiiee's post above to inform yourself . |
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LanFear TyRaX
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
6
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Posted - 2012.07.19 07:13:00 -
[271] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:LanFear TyRaX wrote:Kodavor wrote:LanFear TyRaX wrote:it's a good start but so 2011 . Next time try doing something new. Greetings Mr.Fear . So you say it's " 2011 " ? And try to do something new ? I'll shorten down your own sentence and turn it back to you . " Try to do something " . we did, apparently you didn't run incursions at the time of interdictions or you're just plain ignorant, a little bit of search can enlighten you and save you from embarrassment next time. What is this embarrassment that you speak of ? I saw 3 TVP FC's on grid while we did or first Kundulini site . One of them even tried to ninjaloot the mothership >.< . I guess the ISK is runing low in your " Basi replacement fund " . There were no other activities from any other parties . So no - " You " did not " Try to do something " . Please read Goldiiee's post above to inform yourself .
LOL, what the hell is TVP ? You're under the impression that I run incursion or care about them, take a good look at my corp/alliance, then search eve-o forums or evenews24 or ... for "incursion interdictions". AFAIK, we're banned from every incursion channel since we did the blackbird fleets, but seems like you don't know about it either.
Why would I try to stop you from killing the MOM ? Griefing incursions make me warm and fuzzy inside :D |

Kodavor
Mine3
19
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Posted - 2012.07.19 07:29:00 -
[272] - Quote
I will repeat myself one more time . Please read Goldiie's post above .
There were no other activities from any other parties . So no - " You " did not " Try to do something " .
Which part of this indicates that I think of you as a pilot from TVP ?
Oh and ... Please read Goldiie's post above .
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
256
|
Posted - 2012.07.19 07:37:00 -
[273] - Quote
goldiiee wrote: We 'ISN' and anyone that X'ed up with a T2 gun fit or a Logi 5 fit decided to go and see how well we could take down the incredibly difficult MOM site.
TBH the MOM site is easier then TCRC's ( especially pre-loaded ones ). Brick proved it can be finished with less then 30 pilots at the end ( although you get no payout ). The biggest gamble is the Alpha from the Lirsautton F/B's on a logi. Toughest part is getting the numbers to run. Well it is now... the Revenant used to warp out of the site then warp back in ( until it got stuck on a wreck once & became invincible as NPCs do when they warp unlike PCs) Even the warp out warp back in Revenant wasn't that bad it just added some more time ( & Tamas ) added to the fight.
Been in a very few under 50 pilot MOMs: they are a challenge but since ISN is stricter about fits they may have a easier time of doing them TBH.
Hope some day to see a 'Father' site with a Sansha Titan & a new pirate ( Jove, Drone, w/e ) Incursion An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |

Kodavor
Mine3
19
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Posted - 2012.07.19 07:44:00 -
[274] - Quote
Quote:Hope some day to see a 'Father' site with a Sansha Titan & a new pirate ( Jove, Drone, w/e ) Incursion
+1 |

Violet Giraffe
Shady Endeavours
8
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Posted - 2012.07.19 10:54:00 -
[275] - Quote
Bozl1n wrote: We achived what we set out to do, see if we could form the numbers to take down a MOM site.
You also showed middle finger to every incursion runner outside of ISN. Just wonder if that was the goal or a side effect.
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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.07.19 10:55:00 -
[276] - Quote
Up to next |

Zwo Zateki
Zwo Zateki Corporation
8
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Posted - 2012.07.19 12:28:00 -
[277] - Quote
Violet Giraffe wrote: You also showed middle finger to every incursion runner outside of ISN. Just wonder if that was the goal or a side effect.
Do you mean TVP when you say "every other incursion runner"? The mom belongs to every capsuleer, not just TVP FCs. |

Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.07.19 13:14:00 -
[278] - Quote
Violet Giraffe wrote:Bozl1n wrote: We achived what we set out to do, see if we could form the numbers to take down a MOM site.
You also showed middle finger to every incursion runner outside of ISN. Just wonder if that was the goal or a side effect. If that's ur perception of what happened, then that IS your problem, no? |

Violet Giraffe
Shady Endeavours
8
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:13:00 -
[279] - Quote
Flurk Hellbron wrote: If that's ur perception of what happened, then that IS your problem, no?
I have no problems. I'm neither trying to offend nor argue. I am simply curious whether you realize what you did.
Zwo Zateki wrote: Do you mean TVP when you say "every other incursion runner"? The mom belongs to every capsuleer, not just TVP FCs.
Correction: I mean every other incursion runner who was doing the same incursion, of course. And I don't think MOM exclusively belongs to TVP either, it's just that you cut other people profits by killing it prematurely. |

Kodavor
Mine3
20
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:35:00 -
[280] - Quote
Please read before posting on the " Hot Topic " to avoid being viewed as a lazy , uninformed , outdated , butthurt average incursion pilot .
goldiiee wrote:Nothing more to it. We had just heard of how hard they are and how there is always a collateral loss of at least one Logi, and therefore the cascade of whoever he was capping, and whoever he was repping, so on and so forth like all things in Eve we wanted to see if we could do it with no losses. Mission accomplished we now know that moms are easier than some of the assault site spawns that we alpha off the field before they get anywhere close to optimal.
Sorry to say no evil overlord plot to take the Mom from every active incursion site. No masterminded plan to lure all the noobs in Empire into a fleet and make ISK from their labors. No we never thought we were the 'end all, be all' of the incursion community, and that everyone else would have to bow to our whim, due to some power given us by the self importance of our own minds. No for those people you need to look elsewhere, I would, but I have been banned from their channels and no longer have access to their inner circles. :)
We 'ISN' and anyone that X'ed up with a T2 gun fit or a Logi 5 fit decided to go and see how well we could take down the incredibly difficult MOM site. Yes we were amazed. not at the difficulty but at the fact that we came with to many ships, seems 65 was overkill, 16 Logi's was overkill could have been easily done with 10 less DPS and a full wing of only 10 logi's. But since the site pays for 70 we brought anyone that wanted to see it done. Then we split the loot with anyone that wanted a piece of it smiled at the accomplishment and moved on to the next Incursion, enjoying the new blink in the wallet and the new friends we made in the process.
Ideally we just wanted to see if it could be done. In the end we found out that our efforts were construed as some kind of takeover, and of course the knee-jerk reaction from those that felt threatened was to grab as many rumors and innuendo as possible and start a smear campaign.
I guess I have rambled on long enough, But I would ask that you don't worry about ISN having some master plan but maybe look to find the reason that so many people want you to think we had a plan and why it bothered them enough to ban, smear, and ridicule, another group doing the same thing they do, only better.
See Mountain Climb Mountain Look for Next Mountain
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goldiiee
Superior Ratio High Sec Dropouts
3
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:57:00 -
[281] - Quote
Trying to figure out this logic. We asked for pilots to X up. We included anyone that wanted to fly in the fleet after we were sure the full quota of T2 gun pilots were in the fleet. TVP knew we were going for the Mom but their response was "Yeah right they never have the numbers"
Or to be more exact
Kamden Line > basically, whenever ISN starts talking about doing the Mom, they're full of ****. Pro Engineer > guys just ignore what ISN are doing PopplerRo > i doubt they'll do it
Followed by God complex comments like
Pro Engineer > do not join the ISN mom fleet Comet Miner > dont join a fleet with a banned player like NGR Comet Miner > if you join an ilegal MOM fleet with NGR you will be banned. Tharkunn > who makes it illegal? Kirra Xeldon > unsactioned by TVp/BTL/or TDF Deithess > not approved by TVP/BTL or with formed by banned people Kirra Xeldon > What makes anything ilegal? people back an authority that decided these things.
A momentary spot of reason
Kamden Line > If ISN wants to do the Mom.....they can. Travis117 > pro engineer u still looking for guys? Travis117 > once the mom is dead the incursion is done right? Deithess > yes, they can
But then back to the God complex
Deithess > anybody who is flying in a illegal mom fleet will be banned from TVP/BTL/TDF Cygnus Vanusk > if you don't like the way things work you can always right-click, close chat
Of course who canGÇÖt resist an opportunity to troll an entire community
Keith Planck > ISN was actually formed after the original goonswarm group from the goonswarm members Keith Planck > when bricksqaud did the incurisons, they joined ISN too Keith Planck > Test alliance jumped in too Keith Planck > and now its just a giant ball of griefers
The best part was this moment of disbelief
[ 2012.07.17 18:26:05 ]Kamden Line > ISN is doing the Mom. [ 2012.07.17 18:26:14 ] Deithess > relax [ 2012.07.17 18:26:22 ] Kamden Line > They are actually doing the Mom. [ 2012.07.17 18:26:54 ] Zoom Bullet > wait [ 2012.07.17 18:27:02 ] Zoom Bullet > There popping the mom right now?
Of course what they seem to have been thinking is "but I havenGÇÖt made 500k LP and 4 billion ISK yet."
[ 2012.07.17 18:27:18 ] Kamden Line > Go to the Kundalini manifest, check d-scan. [ 2012.07.17 18:27:19 ] Kasai Hightower > 10% shields [ 2012.07.17 18:27:21 ] Herr Ronin > It is all LIES [ 2012.07.17 18:27:23 ] Zoom Bullet > I checking now [ 2012.07.17 18:27:26 ] Zoom Bullet > relax [ 2012.07.17 18:27:28 ] Zoom Bullet > ill go check [ 2012.07.17 18:27:43 ] Kasai Hightower > serenity and nomatech and all the TVP FCs are already here trying to be loot ninjas [ 2012.07.17 18:27:45 ] Kasai Hightower > just ask them [ 2012.07.17 18:28:11 ] Thror Ginkar > lt'es all take destroyers to loot their mom x) [ 2012.07.17 18:28:18 ] Zoom Bullet > 2 ships on kundalini gate [ 2012.07.17 18:28:22 ] Zoom Bullet > Dscanning now [ 2012.07.17 18:28:36 ] Zoom Bullet > CONFIRMED [ 2012.07.17 18:28:39 ] Nomatech > ISN is in Kundalini [ 2012.07.17 18:28:39 ] Zoom Bullet > MOM IS BEING POPED
Seems like the problem would have fixed itself here if the TVP Fc's alts were able to 'ninja loot' the drop. But, even in that they failed.
At this point all sense of order breaks down.
Now you canGÇÖt have a proper Autocracy without control of the media. In Eve this means disinformation and restrict knowledge.
[ 2012.07.17 18:45:23 ] DaiseyCutter > All are welcome to join ISN if their style is your preferred play style....goons come to mind [ 2012.07.17 18:46:21 ] DaiseyCutter > In TVP we have strived to grow the incursion community in concert with the other existing communities....In line with that, Nomatech did offer to work with Herr Ronin on our behalf and perhaps include them as their own separate community [ 2012.07.17 18:46:35 ] DaiseyCutter > they have declined [ 2012.07.17 18:47:02 ] DaiseyCutter > we sincerely hope you will choose to remain here but this is Eve and all are free to associate as they please
Followed by widespread banning, thereby taking the GÇÿmaking up your own mindGÇÖ process out of the GÇÿdecision making processGÇÖ If you were banned you were no longer welcome, if you were not banned, you were very welcome.
[ 2012.07.17 19:31:16 ] Rayala Classic > FYI, TVP has been banning people who are in ISN channels, not just people who were in the mom fleet today. We'd love to have you, join ISN Secondary if you get banned, but otherwise be advised that you might want to tread lightly for a while. [ 2012.07.17 19:36:15 ] Tardi Goxani > So what just happened with all the bans and stuff? WHere'd the incursion go?
I think this guy had the best comment
[ 2012.07.17 19:44:51 ] Sycotic Deninard > The drama is epic at times.
To ensure they dish out a punishment
[ 2012.07.17 19:48:25 ] Nekora > anyone got a list of who was in that fleet? [ 2012.07.17 19:49:20 ] Koji Yakusho > get the Gestapo to infiltrate isn and get a list of people
I can only assume they had a list at that point because I was banned.
I never cease to be amazed by the number of people that cry out 'Liberty and Democracy' followed in short order by 'grab that guy and shut him up'
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Violet Giraffe
Shady Endeavours
8
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:00:00 -
[282] - Quote
goldiiee wrote: I never cease to be amazed by the number of people that cry out 'Liberty and Democracy' followed in short order by 'grab that guy and shut him up'
LOL, you're right there. Thanks for that post. |

Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
209
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:09:00 -
[283] - Quote
goldiiee wrote: Trying to figure out this logic. We asked for pilots to X up. We included anyone that wanted to fly in the fleet after we were sure the full quota of T2 gun pilots were in the fleet. TVP knew we were going for the Mom but their response was "Yeah right they never have the numbers"
Or to be more exact
Kamden Line > basically, whenever ISN starts talking about doing the Mom, they're full of ****. Pro Engineer > guys just ignore what ISN are doing PopplerRo > i doubt they'll do it
Followed by God complex comments like
Pro Engineer > do not join the ISN mom fleet Comet Miner > dont join a fleet with a banned player like NGR Comet Miner > if you join an ilegal MOM fleet with NGR you will be banned. Tharkunn > who makes it illegal? Kirra Xeldon > unsactioned by TVp/BTL/or TDF Deithess > not approved by TVP/BTL or with formed by banned people Kirra Xeldon > What makes anything ilegal? people back an authority that decided these things.
A momentary spot of reason
Kamden Line > If ISN wants to do the Mom.....they can. Travis117 > pro engineer u still looking for guys? Travis117 > once the mom is dead the incursion is done right? Deithess > yes, they can
But then back to the God complex
Deithess > anybody who is flying in a illegal mom fleet will be banned from TVP/BTL/TDF Cygnus Vanusk > if you don't like the way things work you can always right-click, close chat
Of course who canGÇÖt resist an opportunity to troll an entire community
Keith Planck > ISN was actually formed after the original goonswarm group from the goonswarm members Keith Planck > when bricksqaud did the incurisons, they joined ISN too Keith Planck > Test alliance jumped in too Keith Planck > and now its just a giant ball of griefers
The best part was this moment of disbelief
[ 2012.07.17 18:26:05 ]Kamden Line > ISN is doing the Mom. [ 2012.07.17 18:26:14 ] Deithess > relax [ 2012.07.17 18:26:22 ] Kamden Line > They are actually doing the Mom. [ 2012.07.17 18:26:54 ] Zoom Bullet > wait [ 2012.07.17 18:27:02 ] Zoom Bullet > There popping the mom right now?
Of course what they seem to have been thinking is "but I havenGÇÖt made 500k LP and 4 billion ISK yet."
[ 2012.07.17 18:27:18 ] Kamden Line > Go to the Kundalini manifest, check d-scan. [ 2012.07.17 18:27:19 ] Kasai Hightower > 10% shields [ 2012.07.17 18:27:21 ] Herr Ronin > It is all LIES [ 2012.07.17 18:27:23 ] Zoom Bullet > I checking now [ 2012.07.17 18:27:26 ] Zoom Bullet > relax [ 2012.07.17 18:27:28 ] Zoom Bullet > ill go check [ 2012.07.17 18:27:43 ] Kasai Hightower > serenity and nomatech and all the TVP FCs are already here trying to be loot ninjas [ 2012.07.17 18:27:45 ] Kasai Hightower > just ask them [ 2012.07.17 18:28:11 ] Thror Ginkar > lt'es all take destroyers to loot their mom x) [ 2012.07.17 18:28:18 ] Zoom Bullet > 2 ships on kundalini gate [ 2012.07.17 18:28:22 ] Zoom Bullet > Dscanning now [ 2012.07.17 18:28:36 ] Zoom Bullet > CONFIRMED [ 2012.07.17 18:28:39 ] Nomatech > ISN is in Kundalini [ 2012.07.17 18:28:39 ] Zoom Bullet > MOM IS BEING POPED
Seems like the problem would have fixed itself here if the TVP Fc's alts were able to 'ninja loot' the drop. But, even in that they failed.
At this point all sense of order breaks down.
Now you canGÇÖt have a proper Autocracy without control of the media. In Eve this means disinformation and restrict knowledge.
[ 2012.07.17 18:45:23 ] DaiseyCutter > All are welcome to join ISN if their style is your preferred play style....goons come to mind [ 2012.07.17 18:46:21 ] DaiseyCutter > In TVP we have strived to grow the incursion community in concert with the other existing communities....In line with that, Nomatech did offer to work with Herr Ronin on our behalf and perhaps include them as their own separate community [ 2012.07.17 18:46:35 ] DaiseyCutter > they have declined [ 2012.07.17 18:47:02 ] DaiseyCutter > we sincerely hope you will choose to remain here but this is Eve and all are free to associate as they please
Followed by widespread banning, thereby taking the GÇÿmaking up your own mindGÇÖ process out of the GÇÿdecision making processGÇÖ If you were banned you were no longer welcome, if you were not banned, you were very welcome.
[ 2012.07.17 19:31:16 ] Rayala Classic > FYI, TVP has been banning people who are in ISN channels, not just people who were in the mom fleet today. We'd love to have you, join ISN Secondary if you get banned, but otherwise be advised that you might want to tread lightly for a while. [ 2012.07.17 19:36:15 ] Tardi Goxani > So what just happened with all the bans and stuff? WHere'd the incursion go?
I think this guy had the best comment
[ 2012.07.17 19:44:51 ] Sycotic Deninard > The drama is epic at times.
To ensure they dish out a punishment
[ 2012.07.17 19:48:25 ] Nekora > anyone got a list of who was in that fleet? [ 2012.07.17 19:49:20 ] Koji Yakusho > get the Gestapo to infiltrate isn and get a list of people
I can only assume they had a list at that point because I was banned.
I never cease to be amazed by the number of people that cry out 'Liberty and Democracy' followed in short order by 'grab that guy and shut him up'
Its nice to remind TVP that EVE Online is a Sandbox | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
209
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:17:00 -
[284] - Quote
Violet Giraffe wrote:Bozl1n wrote: We achived what we set out to do, see if we could form the numbers to take down a MOM site.
You also showed middle finger to every incursion runner outside of ISN. Just wonder if that was the goal or a side effect.
It was a Side Effect. A hilarious one at that. | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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LanFear TyRaX
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
6
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Posted - 2012.07.19 20:42:00 -
[285] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:I will repeat myself one more time . Please read Goldiie's post above .
There were no other activities from any other parties . So no - " You " did not " Try to do something " .
Which part of this indicates that I think of you as a pilot from TVP ?
Oh and ... Please read Goldiie's post above .
Still as clueless as a rock ! I give up , keep thinking you did something novel by killing the MOM prematurely, our tech3 buckets still hold some tears from our interdiction. |

Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
209
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Posted - 2012.07.19 21:16:00 -
[286] - Quote
LanFear TyRaX wrote:Kodavor wrote:I will repeat myself one more time . Please read Goldiie's post above .
There were no other activities from any other parties . So no - " You " did not " Try to do something " .
Which part of this indicates that I think of you as a pilot from TVP ?
Oh and ... Please read Goldiie's post above .
Still as clueless as a rock ! I give up , keep thinking you did something novel by killing the MOM prematurely, our tech3 buckets still hold some tears from our interdiction.
Thanks for taking your vital time to let us know how you feel.
However, It happened, Best of luck with your "T3 Buckets"
Regards | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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LanFear TyRaX
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
6
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Posted - 2012.07.20 03:18:00 -
[287] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:LanFear TyRaX wrote:Kodavor wrote:I will repeat myself one more time . Please read Goldiie's post above .
There were no other activities from any other parties . So no - " You " did not " Try to do something " .
Which part of this indicates that I think of you as a pilot from TVP ?
Oh and ... Please read Goldiie's post above .
Still as clueless as a rock ! I give up , keep thinking you did something novel by killing the MOM prematurely, our tech3 buckets still hold some tears from our interdiction. Thanks for taking your vital time to let us know how you feel. However, It happened, Best of luck with your "T3 Buckets" Regards
You're welcome, always ready to give pointers to the clueless
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Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
209
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Posted - 2012.07.20 09:22:00 -
[288] - Quote
LanFear TyRaX wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:LanFear TyRaX wrote:Kodavor wrote:I will repeat myself one more time . Please read Goldiie's post above .
There were no other activities from any other parties . So no - " You " did not " Try to do something " .
Which part of this indicates that I think of you as a pilot from TVP ?
Oh and ... Please read Goldiie's post above .
Still as clueless as a rock ! I give up , keep thinking you did something novel by killing the MOM prematurely, our tech3 buckets still hold some tears from our interdiction. Thanks for taking your vital time to let us know how you feel. However, It happened, Best of luck with your "T3 Buckets" Regards You're welcome, always ready to give pointers to the clueless
Like i said thank you for turning my life around and causing me to see the light.
I feel so much better now.
Thank you. | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Chandra K'ailar
Darkstar Trading Conglomerate Inc
2
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Posted - 2012.07.20 09:30:00 -
[289] - Quote
xD
That post goldiie, something awesome..
Altho, i'm surprized why any of the TVP FCs are already here whinning and bitching about that . . . Prolly they did another petition about that also xD Are u new to EVE, or just a old player who got back? Tired of your old corp?
Check our Public channel, "Darkstar Recruitment" |

Ludus Lucrius
No Rest 4 d Wicked
3
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Posted - 2012.07.20 10:15:00 -
[290] - Quote
Gratz.
Now u know u can do it (like that was the real goal LOL). U might wonna try to contest next 1 on agreed upon terms or if u need more practice choose one of non-active highsec incursions and work it ground up.
Let the Force be with u always :) |
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Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
209
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Posted - 2012.07.20 11:28:00 -
[291] - Quote
Ludus Lucrius wrote:Gratz.
Now u know u can do it (like that was the real goal LOL). U might wonna try to contest next 1 on agreed upon terms or if u need more practice choose one of non-active highsec incursions and work it ground up.
May the Schwartz be with U always :)
EVE Online is a sandbox is it not? Yes it was one of our goals, I very much doubt anyone will contest ISN in a MOM, Unless you bring 100 on grid, Then well done.
We don't need to practice my dear boy, We are ISN, Not some scrub community.
Regards | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Ludus Lucrius
No Rest 4 d Wicked
3
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:07:00 -
[292] - Quote
My "dear" ser Herr Ronin, I couldn't care less about who pops the mom as long as it gets popped in every1s best interest. Of course EvE is a sanbox but that doesnt mean I have to like it :-). I am glad I took a break from incursion (and EvE) because it seems that "Incursions, incursions never change" ... always some drama emerging and new drama queens popping in. I guess it keeps things interesting. But at the end of the day "scrubs" always prevail :-)
Have fun.
May the Schwartz protect U from "Scrubs" :) |

Chandra K'ailar
Darkstar Trading Conglomerate Inc
3
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:26:00 -
[293] - Quote
xD Now u said everything we need to hear . . . DRAMA QUEENS Are u new to EVE, or just a old player who got back? Tired of your old corp?
Check our Public channel, "Darkstar Recruitment" |

Ms Bax
Union Of EVE
6
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:28:00 -
[294] - Quote
congrats on the mom. |

Kodavor
Mine3
20
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:50:00 -
[295] - Quote
Thank you .
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Lucious Shakiel
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.07.22 01:48:00 -
[296] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:
I guess I have rambled on long enough, But I would ask that you don't worry about ISN having some master plan but maybe look to find the reason that so many people want you to think we had a plan and why it bothered them enough to ban, smear, and ridicule, another group doing the same thing they do, only better.
See Mountain Climb Mountain Look for Next Mountain
goldiiee wrote: I never cease to be amazed by the number of people that cry out 'Liberty and Democracy' followed in short order by 'grab that guy and shut him up'
I have no idea who you are but those two lines made my day. The butthurt in this thread is monumental. |

Charadrass
Die Deutsche Luftwaffe
5
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Posted - 2012.07.22 07:29:00 -
[297] - Quote
Quote:Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control Except for [DIN]. |

Zora Pimms
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.07.22 08:37:00 -
[298] - Quote
Gratz on the MOM takedown ISN. Wish I'd been there for it! |

Kodavor
Mine3
21
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Posted - 2012.07.22 08:40:00 -
[299] - Quote
Charadrass wrote:Quote:Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control Except for [DIN].
I like DIN . You should join us ! :P You are pretty good %)) |

Charadrass
Die Deutsche Luftwaffe
6
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Posted - 2012.07.22 09:14:00 -
[300] - Quote
well kodavor, we enjoyed contesting ISN. but noble ranger is a bit paranoid now i think. i dont have a problem flying in your fleets when we dont have a fleet up and running. he told me that he wont invite me into ISN fleets anymore because i steal ISN tactics...
strangely enough that happend one day after DIN prevented that ISN makes Iskies for over 2 hours.
the next day we encountered an ISN fleet with 23 pilots instead of 20. contesting us. at this point i was pretty sure, that our strategy flying assaults is different to ISN strats. because we won against ISN with a complete different fleet setup. of course we lost the 20 vs 23 contest. but if that is the only answer on a fair contest by ISN, do you really call that a strategy? overpopulation sites?
yes i know, we warped 2 weeks later in a OCF with 23 on grid while ISN was inside for about 60 seconds with 17 pilots and we lost that contest. thats on my faultlist because i took the fleet in front of the gate as ISN and i dont see that ISN was already inside :) happens from time to time.
finally i wanna say, that i always enjoyed the fair contests against ISN. Too sad that today ISN just pull more pilots into the contests to make sure that they win. Obviously your strategy ISN't that good if you cant counter a normal 20 pilot fleet. |
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Chandra K'ailar
Darkstar Trading Conglomerate Inc
3
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Posted - 2012.07.22 10:03:00 -
[301] - Quote
I will just say . . . Do your homework, thats just wrong! Are u new to EVE, or just a old player who got back? Tired of your old corp?
Check our Public channel, "Darkstar Recruitment" |

Kodavor
Mine3
21
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Posted - 2012.07.22 10:07:00 -
[302] - Quote
Charadrass wrote:well kodavor, we enjoyed contesting ISN. but noble ranger is a bit paranoid now i think. i dont have a problem flying in your fleets when we dont have a fleet up and running. he told me that he wont invite me into ISN fleets anymore because i steal ISN tactics...
strangely enough that happend one day after DIN prevented that ISN makes Iskies for over 2 hours.
the next day we encountered an ISN fleet with 23 pilots instead of 20. contesting us. at this point i was pretty sure, that our strategy flying assaults is different to ISN strats. because we won against ISN with a complete different fleet setup. of course we lost the 20 vs 23 contest. but if that is the only answer on a fair contest by ISN, do you really call that a strategy? overpopulation sites?
yes i know, we warped 2 weeks later in a OCF with 23 on grid while ISN was inside for about 60 seconds with 17 pilots and we lost that contest. thats on my faultlist because i took the fleet in front of the gate as ISN and i dont see that ISN was already inside :) happens from time to time.
finally i wanna say, that i always enjoyed the fair contests against ISN. Too sad that today ISN just pull more pilots into the contests to make sure that they win. Obviously your strategy ISN't that good if you cant counter a normal 20 pilot fleet.
Those are all details %) . FC is only a human ;) . At times it displays more and at times less . And , ofcourse , everyone of us like to boast how they beat " that fleet " and were victorius . Especialy if the fleets in question can provide high grade pilots to contest against . Well ... " io " %) . |

Vico Hur
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.22 10:13:00 -
[303] - Quote
How likely am i to get accepted in a Non-faction Battleship with less pimping, assuming T2 guns and such? I am very interested in flying with you guys, but the idea of bringing a 2 billion isk Vindicator with only minor tanking along with people i don't know, Logi pilots i don't know, and FC's i don't know, makes me a little apprehensive about the whole deal. |

Kodavor
Mine3
21
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Posted - 2012.07.22 10:32:00 -
[304] - Quote
Vico Hur wrote:How likely am i to get accepted in a Non-faction Battleship with less pimping, assuming T2 guns and such? I am very interested in flying with you guys, but the idea of bringing a 2 billion isk Vindicator with only minor tanking along with people i don't know, Logi pilots i don't know, and FC's i don't know, makes me a little apprehensive about the whole deal.
If you have the time atm then please feel free to contact me in ISN Secondary and I can have a chat with you on our TS about all the things that may interest you %) . |

Luscius Uta
Killers of Paranoid Souls Forsaken Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.07.22 11:53:00 -
[305] - Quote
While I'm not a fan of ISN and their elitist attitude - they won't let you in a fleet if you fly a T1 BS, their "recommended" fittings consist mainly of faction modules worth more than a pirate battleship in total (I mean, do I really need a Shadow Serpentis sensor booster?) and when I tried to join with a Vindi, they wanted me to switch to Railguns even though in Vanguards everything but Mara is within optimal+faloff of a Blaster Vindi, but kudos to them for standing up against Incursion bullies and taking out the mom on their own. I don't like when someone decides that you should not take out the mom without their permission, it's not much different than saying you cannot mine without permission. |

Chandra K'ailar
Darkstar Trading Conglomerate Inc
3
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:32:00 -
[306] - Quote
Liscius Uta, ISN dont ask for the faction mods, if u cant afford u can go with t2. Altho the faction/deadspace mods are like an goal!
Not a requirement, do your homework before u comment something or u will get trolled most of the times! Are u new to EVE, or just a old player who got back? Tired of your old corp?
Check our Public channel, "Darkstar Recruitment" |

Charadrass
Die Deutsche Luftwaffe
6
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:35:00 -
[307] - Quote
ouh angry isn trollolololol |

Kodavor
Mine3
21
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Posted - 2012.07.22 13:50:00 -
[308] - Quote
Chandra K'ailar wrote:Liscius Uta, ISN dont ask for the faction mods, if u cant afford u can go with t2. Altho the faction/deadspace mods are like an goal!
Not a requirement, do your homework before u comment something or u will get trolled most of the times!
Why so aggressive :/ ? Don't say " Do your homework " as if you are speaking to a child >.< . Say " Slightly misinformed " %)
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Seifer Al'Masy
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
10
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Posted - 2012.07.22 15:23:00 -
[309] - Quote
Luscius Uta wrote:While I'm not a fan of ISN and their elitist attitude - they won't let you in a fleet if you fly a T1 BS, their "recommended" fittings consist mainly of faction modules worth more than a pirate battleship in total (I mean, do I really need a Shadow Serpentis sensor booster?) and when I tried to join with a Vindi, they wanted me to switch to Railguns even though in Vanguards everything but Mara is within optimal+faloff of a Blaster Vindi, but kudos to them for standing up against Incursion bullies and taking out the mom on their own. I don't like when someone decides that you should not take out the mom without their permission, it's not much different than saying you cannot mine without permission.
Hmmm, that's hard to believe. I've been flying with ISN for the last 3 days, and all i needed was a shield Pirate BS with T2 guns, and that was it. No one made fit faction/dead-space mods.
Faction and other stuff it's a fit you aim for, in time. You don't need it
They said "IF you can fit T2, you're Golden"
After 3 days with ISN, I have to say I'm loving it. 5 stars and hat's off to them. Will continue to use this service/product. |

Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
210
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:44:00 -
[310] - Quote
Seifer Al'Masy wrote:Luscius Uta wrote:While I'm not a fan of ISN and their elitist attitude - they won't let you in a fleet if you fly a T1 BS, their "recommended" fittings consist mainly of faction modules worth more than a pirate battleship in total (I mean, do I really need a Shadow Serpentis sensor booster?) and when I tried to join with a Vindi, they wanted me to switch to Railguns even though in Vanguards everything but Mara is within optimal+faloff of a Blaster Vindi, but kudos to them for standing up against Incursion bullies and taking out the mom on their own. I don't like when someone decides that you should not take out the mom without their permission, it's not much different than saying you cannot mine without permission. Hmmm, that's hard to believe. I've been flying with ISN for the last 3 days, and all i needed was a shield Pirate BS with T2 guns, and that was it. No one made fit faction/dead-space mods. Faction and other stuff it's a fit you aim for, in time. You don't need it They said "IF you can fit T2, you're Golden" After 3 days with ISN, I have to say I'm loving it. 5 stars and hat's off to them. Will continue to use this service/product.
Awesome stuff to hear! | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Luscius Uta
Killers of Paranoid Souls Forsaken Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.07.23 05:28:00 -
[311] - Quote
Chandra K'ailar wrote:Liscius Uta, ISN dont ask for the faction mods, if u cant afford u can go with t2. Altho the faction/deadspace mods are like an goal!
Not a requirement, do your homework before u comment something or u will get trolled most of the times!
No it's not a requirement - I really never claimed that it is, but it is something you'll find in ISN list of fittings...and here you are saying yourself that those mods are a goal. |

goldiiee
Superior Ratio High Sec Dropouts
10
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:39:00 -
[312] - Quote
Luscius Uta wrote:Chandra K'ailar wrote:Liscius Uta, ISN dont ask for the faction mods, if u cant afford u can go with t2. Altho the faction/deadspace mods are like an goal!
Not a requirement, do your homework before u comment something or u will get trolled most of the times! No it's not a requirement - I really never claimed that it is, but it is something you'll find in ISN list of fittings...and here you are saying yourself that those mods are a goal.
If you were to run incursions and make up to 2 billlion ISK a week wouldn't you want to protect your 'money maker' with a deadspace invul, and wouldn't it make sense to upgrade you damage mods so you can help complete sites quicker as a fleet? This is why any fit you ask to see in ISN is probally more exspensive than the average fit you would see in the local channel. Most members upgade their fits to what you see in the chat channel from a T2 equivalent. Then when the fitting list is refreshed we simply use the fits that are bieng used in the fleet by the pilots that are resonsible for the current ISK per hour, and the machines that earn it. |

Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
213
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Posted - 2012.07.24 23:20:00 -
[313] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Herr Ronin Noble Ranger Kodavor ISN Does Mothership SItes? http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Freezehunter
212
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Posted - 2012.07.26 01:18:00 -
[314] - Quote
I heard someone say that ISN are a bunch of elitist assholes.
This can't be further from the truth, they are an awesome bunch of guys and they will go out of their way to help people get in their fleets and teach them if they are total newbs at incursions.
I now name all my ships ISN "Ship name" to suport them.
+1 Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |

Herr Ronin
Kenyte Capital High Sec Dropouts
216
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Posted - 2012.07.26 15:20:00 -
[315] - Quote
Freezehunter wrote:I heard someone say that ISN are a bunch of elitist assholes.
This can't be further from the truth, they are an awesome bunch of guys and they will go out of their way to help people get in their fleets and teach them if they are total newbs at incursions.
I now name all my ships ISN "Ship name" to suport them.
+1
Thanks dude! o7 | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Kodavor
Mine3
21
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Posted - 2012.08.01 07:05:00 -
[316] - Quote
There is a time . |

Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
105
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:23:00 -
[317] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Curious...what T3 cruisers do you guys actually allow in fleet? Last I'd checked even the loki webber was losing popularity. Triple rep Myrms are like what you'd get if you strapped a beehive to Robocop. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
18
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:08:00 -
[318] - Quote
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Curious...what T3 cruisers do you guys actually allow in fleet? Last I'd checked even the loki webber was losing popularity.
Loki is still the prefered web/drone bunny use the Immobility subsystem to get 40 to 50 km webs, fit 3 or 4 fed navy webs and t2 autocannons or t2 arties. I personally prefer the 720 arties, the drones do most of the hardwork so spitting ammo the way 425s do is really not necessary. 'Hint; splitting the gun groups allows for changing drone targets quicker'. Most important is to have the loki subsystems trained to 5 for Defensive and Electronics ie; tank on the hull and range on webs. A more specific fit can be found in mail list 'ISN fitting' but if you have a better idea, then bring it to the chat and see if the FC is willing to give it a try.
I Know, You 'know' everything, so this obviously wasn't directed at you. |

Herr Ronin
Adventureland
217
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:41:00 -
[319] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Herr Ronin Noble Ranger Kodavor ISN Does Mothership SItes? http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
18
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Posted - 2012.08.04 06:52:00 -
[320] - Quote
Freezehunter wrote:I heard someone say that ISN are a bunch of elitist assholes.
This can't be further from the truth, they are an awesome bunch of guys and they will go out of their way to help people get in their fleets and teach them if they are total newbs at incursions.
I now name all my ships ISN "Ship name" to suport them.
+1
Honestly, and not meaning this as a troll but as a genuine observation, this coming from an ignorant racist like you doesn't do ISN any good. And the whine thread about how you lost a Bhaalgorn to a Rattlesnake on SISI!!! due to OP ASB was just hilarious.
(just check the guys posting history)
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Stetson Eagle
ROC Academy The ROC
28
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Posted - 2012.08.04 12:28:00 -
[321] - Quote
Out of curiosity, what are the isk/h figures looking like for you guys? I'd like a steady and consistent figure - comparable to let's say a sentry carrier doing Sanctums for 110-140 M / hour (bad case, good case). |

Kodavor
Mine3
22
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Posted - 2012.08.04 16:00:00 -
[322] - Quote
Standard :
Assautls - 6 sites per hour ( 109,2mil ) 20 Pilots on grid
Vanguards - 10 sites per hour ( 87.8 mil ) 12 Pilots on grid
Optimal circumstances:
Assaults - 8 sites per hour ( 145.9 mil )
Vanguards - 13 sites per hour ( 114.14 mil ) |

Herr Ronin
Adventureland
217
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Posted - 2012.08.04 16:14:00 -
[323] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Standard :
Assautls - 6 sites per hour ( 109,2mil ) 20 Pilots on grid
Vanguards - 10 sites per hour ( 87.8 mil ) 12 Pilots on grid
Optimal circumstances:
Assaults - 8 sites per hour ( 145.9 mil )
Vanguards - 13 sites per hour ( 114.14 mil )
Our Human Calculator at it. | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
378
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Posted - 2012.08.04 19:38:00 -
[324] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/ENNco.jpg
Herr Ronin after a long day of doing your mom. |

Zwo Zateki
Zwo Zateki Corporation
11
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Posted - 2012.08.06 08:08:00 -
[325] - Quote
Stetson Eagle wrote:Out of curiosity, what are the isk/h figures looking like for you guys? I'd like a steady and consistent figure - comparable to let's say a sentry carrier doing Sanctums for 110-140 M / hour (bad case, good case). Approx. the same BUT: 1) If you have proper logistics and are not asleep chances of dying are very low. 2) Still, both in Incursions and Nullsec you've got to be very vigilant. In Incursions watch out for NPC aggro while in nullsec monitor secure channel. 3) It can take up to several hours to assemble a fleet. In incursions you depend on others. In Sanctums YOU decide when to farm and what to farm. 4) The best point about incursions is that you can relax and talk about life with fleet members. Relax, chat, earn ISK, train fleet combat skills. This does not apply to shiny fleets tho. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
18
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Posted - 2012.08.06 22:15:00 -
[326] - Quote
Zwo Zateki wrote:Stetson Eagle wrote:Out of curiosity, what are the isk/h figures looking like for you guys? I'd like a steady and consistent figure - comparable to let's say a sentry carrier doing Sanctums for 110-140 M / hour (bad case, good case). Approx. the same BUT: 1) If you have proper logistics and are not asleep chances of dying are very low. 2) Still, both in Incursions and Nullsec you've got to be very vigilant. In Incursions watch out for NPC aggro while in nullsec monitor secure channel. 3) It can take up to several hours to assemble a fleet. In incursions you depend on others. In Sanctums YOU decide when to farm and what to farm. 4) The best point about incursions is that you can relax and talk about life with fleet members. Relax, chat, earn ISK, train fleet combat skills. This does not apply to shiny fleets tho.
Zwo after telling you 2 times to stop backseat FC'ing the fleet I gave up. Then the fleet members told you to stop backseat FC'ing and you chose to ignore them, and continued. Pretty sure you knew a boot was comming, if not, then your thicker than I thought. I Know, You 'know' everything, so this obviously wasn't directed at you. |

Zwo Zateki
Zwo Zateki Corporation
11
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Posted - 2012.08.09 06:31:00 -
[327] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:Zwo Zateki wrote:Stetson Eagle wrote:Out of curiosity, what are the isk/h figures looking like for you guys? I'd like a steady and consistent figure - comparable to let's say a sentry carrier doing Sanctums for 110-140 M / hour (bad case, good case). Approx. the same BUT: 1) If you have proper logistics and are not asleep chances of dying are very low. 2) Still, both in Incursions and Nullsec you've got to be very vigilant. In Incursions watch out for NPC aggro while in nullsec monitor secure channel. 3) It can take up to several hours to assemble a fleet. In incursions you depend on others. In Sanctums YOU decide when to farm and what to farm. 4) The best point about incursions is that you can relax and talk about life with fleet members. Relax, chat, earn ISK, train fleet combat skills. This does not apply to shiny fleets tho. Zwo after telling you 2 times to stop backseat FC'ing the fleet I gave up. Then the fleet members told you to stop backseat FC'ing and you chose to ignore them, and continued. Pretty sure you knew a boot was comming, if not, then your thicker than I thought. Yeah yeah yeah. No one in fleet shooting including multiboxer FC is fine but reminding to shoot is not. You guys are SO peculiar.
Good luck withstanding blackbirds and finding Russian pilots. |

Kodavor
Mine3
22
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Posted - 2012.08.09 08:02:00 -
[328] - Quote
This is an open threat . Accepted . |

Nadia Gallen
Advanced Engineering and Research Division
0
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Posted - 2012.08.10 01:13:00 -
[329] - Quote
When I first joined the ISN Secondary channel, I only had a vague idea of what I was getting into.
All I heard was from friends there told me that Incursions was a good place to make isk, alot more than level 4 missions which I was running atm. So I saw found one of their video's on youtube, found their channel in game and asked a few questions, and before I knew it I was flying in a Navy Armageddon, with T2 fits on a trial period, with a loan from one of their pilots who didn't even know me, but still was willing to help me getting started. They wanted to see if faction BS's could cut it in the fleet, and I wanted to try Incursions.
I quickly earned enough isk to pay him back, buy a Nightmare, and slowly start to grind up for the faction modules I wanted.
Now I am a proud Nightmare pilot who have passed my trials, and is a proud member of the ISN fleet. Yes there are high standings for skills, they are there for a reason. Those standings are what makes and breaks Incursion fleets.
It is due to the awesome logistic pilots in the ISN fleets, the supreme target calling and FC'ing of our around the clock FC's that we can do what we do, and do damn well.
A very big salute to the fleet there did MOM, and proved that the MOM is not an impossible challenge for the ISN. |

Kodavor
Mine3
25
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Posted - 2012.08.11 16:38:00 -
[330] - Quote
Krabs |
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Herr Ronin
Adventureland I Got Banned For That
219
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Posted - 2012.08.11 18:41:00 -
[331] - Quote
Nadia Gallen wrote:When I first joined the ISN Secondary channel, I only had a vague idea of what I was getting into.
All I heard was from friends there told me that Incursions was a good place to make isk, alot more than level 4 missions which I was running atm. So I found one of their video's on youtube, found their channel in game and asked a few questions, and before I knew it I was flying in a Navy Armageddon, with T2 fits on a trial period, with a loan from one of their pilots who didn't even know me, but still was willing to help me getting started. They wanted to see if faction BS's could cut it in the fleet, and I wanted to try Incursions.
I quickly earned enough isk to pay him back, buy a Nightmare, and slowly start to grind up for the faction modules I wanted.
Now I am a proud Nightmare pilot who have passed my trials, and is a proud member of the ISN fleet. Yes there are high standings for skills, they are there for a reason. Those standings are what makes and breaks Incursion fleets.
It is due to the awesome logistic pilots in the ISN fleets, the supreme target calling and FC'ing of our around the clock FC's that we can do what we do, and do damn well.
A very big salute to the fleet there did MOM, and proved that the MOM is not an impossible challenge for the ISN.
Fantastic! We need more of this. | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Adventureland I Got Banned For That
219
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Posted - 2012.08.13 02:39:00 -
[332] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Herr Ronin Noble Ranger Kodavor ISN Does Mothership SItes? http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Aynen
Federal Guard and Recon Corporation
14
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Posted - 2012.08.13 11:35:00 -
[333] - Quote
Didn't see Rattlesnakes in the list of possible ships, what's the thinking for that? I'd have thought it'd fit right in. |

Kodavor
Mine3
25
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Posted - 2012.08.13 11:52:00 -
[334] - Quote
Aynen wrote:Didn't see Rattlesnakes in the list of possible ships, what's the thinking for that? I'd have thought it'd fit right in.
You must have witnessed a unique ISN Senior FC / Veteran fleet .  |

Aynen
Federal Guard and Recon Corporation
14
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Posted - 2012.08.13 13:48:00 -
[335] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Aynen wrote:Didn't see Rattlesnakes in the list of possible ships, what's the thinking for that? I'd have thought it'd fit right in. You must have witnessed a unique ISN Senior FC / Veteran fleet . 
Here's an exerpt from the OP:
Requirements
The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below.
Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
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Kodavor
Mine3
25
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Posted - 2012.08.13 14:25:00 -
[336] - Quote
Please join ISN Secondary in game to be up to date with the latest modifications to ISN fielded ships  |

Aynen
Federal Guard and Recon Corporation
14
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Posted - 2012.08.13 14:27:00 -
[337] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Please join ISN Secondary in game to be up to date with the latest modifications to ISN fielded ships 
will do :) |

Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.08.13 20:38:00 -
[338] - Quote
I thought incursion running was a waste of time since the nerf?
Did that change? I used to like doing incursions :P |

Nadia Gallen
Advanced Engineering and Research Division
3
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:35:00 -
[339] - Quote
Diesel47 wrote:I thought incursion running was a waste of time since the nerf?
Did that change? I used to like doing incursions :P
The income have gone down a little, but it isn't gone.
And why stop something you like doing ? |

Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.08.13 23:21:00 -
[340] - Quote
Nadia Gallen wrote:Diesel47 wrote:I thought incursion running was a waste of time since the nerf?
Did that change? I used to like doing incursions :P The income have gone down a little, but it isn't gone. And why stop something you like doing ?
I liked it because of the income and the competition between fleets at times.
But the nerf destroyed the income, and it seemed like nobody was willing to run them anymore.
Am I right to assume that the income from incursions is less than what it was before, but it is still more than the next best option which are level 4s? |
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Herr Ronin
Adventureland I Got Banned For That
219
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Posted - 2012.08.14 00:25:00 -
[341] - Quote
Diesel47 wrote:Nadia Gallen wrote:Diesel47 wrote:I thought incursion running was a waste of time since the nerf?
Did that change? I used to like doing incursions :P The income have gone down a little, but it isn't gone. And why stop something you like doing ? I liked it because of the income and the competition between fleets at times. But the nerf destroyed the income, and it seemed like nobody was willing to run them anymore. Am I right to assume that the income from incursions is less than what it was before, but it is still more than the next best option which are level 4s?
It is still the best isk in high sec at this current time!  | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1661
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Posted - 2012.08.14 07:34:00 -
[342] - Quote
Poppin other people's moms erryday... Gratz ISN! have run with you guys a bit. You guys deliver! |

Phoenixgurl
Phoenix Research inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.08.15 11:55:00 -
[343] - Quote
I'm very interested in this endeavor. What timezone/time do you guys usually do these Incursions? |

Kodavor
Mine3
25
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:24:00 -
[344] - Quote
Mostly EU . Weekends from DT 'till DT . |

Yuri Kuznetsov
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.16 09:55:00 -
[345] - Quote
Logi 5 in 28 days x.x
one day i can play real man spaceships too.... |

Herr Ronin
Adventureland I Got Banned For That
219
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Posted - 2012.08.18 01:31:00 -
[346] - Quote
Yuri Kuznetsov wrote:Logi 5 in 28 days x.x
one day i can play real man spaceships too....
We welcome it! :P | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
472
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:52:00 -
[347] - Quote
Free Bump |

AKilla Sunday
Lunar Mining
9
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Posted - 2012.08.19 11:03:00 -
[348] - Quote
I have 2 toons with perfect logi skills for all 4 races. Wich logi is used for S and A tanks. Also can someone link incursion logi fits? |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
22
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Posted - 2012.08.19 11:35:00 -
[349] - Quote
AKilla Sunday wrote:I have 2 toons with perfect logi skills for all 4 races. Wich logi is used for S and A tanks. Also can someone link incursion logi fits?
there are several places that prefered fits can be found. For us just subscribe to our mailing list 'ISN fittings'. for a more general idea of what to fit try. http://incursions.nexsoft.de/?mode=logistic and always remember that any fit you post will have it's fans and detractors.
On a side note The new Vanguards require a codebreaker and a MWD on one logistics ship aloowing for both ore drop and hacking in different sites, so alternatlivelly having the ability to fit iether tracking links or the aformentioned hacking and mwd will make you invaluable to most fleets.
Logistics are the keystone pilots in a fleet so it might take a while to get trusted persistence is often the best ammunition.
Getting it done is easy, dealing with drama not so much. |

Kodavor
Mine3
25
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Posted - 2012.08.19 12:33:00 -
[350] - Quote
ISN Fitting * |
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Geljoran
CompleXion Industries CompleXion Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.08.19 14:04:00 -
[351] - Quote
Any chance an up and coming logi pilot with Logi 5 and a low isk income stream (currently) could get in with this fitting? While they save up for the fits on the ISN mailing lists?
[Basilisk, Logi T2's]
2x Large 'Regard' Power Projector 4x Large Shield Transporter II
Large Shield Extender II 2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 10MN Afterburner II EM Ward Field II
Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II
2x Medium Ancillary Current Router I
5x Light Shield Maintenance Bot I
Open to suggestions, TS/Vent/Mumble not a problem. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
22
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:15:00 -
[352] - Quote
Geljoran wrote:Any chance an up and coming logi pilot with Logi 5 and a low isk income stream (currently) could get in with this fitting? While they save up for the fits on the ISN mailing lists?
[Basilisk, Logi T2's]
2x Large 'Regard' Power Projector 4x Large Shield Transporter II
Large Shield Extender II 2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 10MN Afterburner II EM Ward Field II
Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II
2x Medium Ancillary Current Router I
5x Light Shield Maintenance Bot I
Open to suggestions, TS/Vent/Mumble not a problem.
As I said before any logistic pilot trained to lvl5 is always a great asset to Incursion fleets, ideally the fit we use in ISN is a 5 rep 1 transfer fit. ther will ba alot of help getting you into the right ship for the job. Join 'ISN secondary' chat and i am sure there will be several members of our community there to help you get your ship ready. alternativlly other incursion communities will accept your as fitted, till you can earn the isk to fit it to the specs we require. Getting it done is easy, dealing with drama not so much. |

Kodavor
Mine3
25
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Posted - 2012.08.22 02:00:00 -
[353] - Quote
I like trains . |

Ms McCholloch
Vertically Integrated Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.08.22 02:33:00 -
[354] - Quote
Ran in a number of other fleets back in the incursion heyday. I have an almost fully skilled NM with T2 Tachs + gunnery implants. (1-2 skills left to V). Also have an alt I am training to be a OGB.
Look forward to working with you guys.
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Herr Ronin
Adventureland I Got Banned For That
219
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Posted - 2012.08.22 18:24:00 -
[355] - Quote
Ms McCholloch wrote:Ran in a number of other fleets back in the incursion heyday. I have an almost fully skilled NM with T2 Tachs + gunnery implants. (1-2 skills left to V). Also have an alt I am training to be a OGB.
Look forward to working with you guys.
We look forward to you joining in our fleets!
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Nadia Gallen
Advanced Engineering and Research Division
4
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:40:00 -
[356] - Quote
Ms McCholloch wrote:Ran in a number of other fleets back in the incursion heyday. I have an almost fully skilled NM with T2 Tachs + gunnery implants. (1-2 skills left to V). Also have an alt I am training to be a OGB.
Look forward to working with you guys.
We need more nightmares! :D
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Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
489
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Posted - 2012.08.23 15:28:00 -
[357] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/rNWk7.png |

Geljoran
CompleXion Industries CompleXion Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.08.23 21:03:00 -
[358] - Quote
PRO Gravy Train
That's all that needs to be said about ISN. I posted here a few days ago regarding a fit and recieved a positive reply. Talked to a few people who helped me with my fit. I had to drop more than I had expected to meet a fitting that was acceptable but in the end I made it all back today in a few hours.
Best part was they gave me pro tips with easy to understand explinations instead of the elitist jerk attitudes people are complaining about in this forum.
Thanks ISN see you in game! |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
22
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Posted - 2012.08.24 19:37:00 -
[359] - Quote
I feel like a schoolboy that is getting punished for knowing the schoolyard bully. He has taken someone elseGÇÖs lunch money and now the whole class has to go without recess till he admits what he has done, but the big lug is to thickheaded to realize he is at fault.
Through rumor control I have been told that TVP has decided to end all incursions to force ISN to run their incursion only and to pressure ISN management into accepting an GÇÿIncursion Community AgreementGÇÖ. Basically an agreement that requires ISN to not do MOM sites without leaving the ability to have the loot stolen by someoneGÇÖs alt or the site stolen by an overwhelming TVP fleet in a contest. either way GÇÿtheyGÇÖ, whoever GÇÿtheyGÇÖ are, want to know what, when, and where. More importantly they want to make a deal no one will take, as GÇÿtheyGÇÖ are fine with the Status Quo.
The contempt TVP has of any Incursion runner not inside their scope of control is narcissistic and borderline egomaniacal. So they lash out blindly and hit everything but their target. If the latest rumor is anywhere in the scope of reality (funny word in a fantasy world) then the ISK per hour a TVP player will make vs. the ISK per hour an ISN member will make is pathetic. ISN fleet can grind the contestation control down to 0 in just under 5 hours with absolutely no help, making each fleet member 600 to 700million ISK. Best estimate for a HQ fleet in this amount of time is 250 million under ideal conditions. Conversely I have been messaged by a TVP-FC not long ago asking if ISN was coming to an incursion to grind it down as they had tried for 12 hours and been unable to make gains on an 18% constellation control.
The basis for the latest drama incurred on our Incursion life is supposedly to make ISN bow to the will of the incursion community, Problem I have with this idea, is that I always thought GÇÿWeGÇÖ are the Incursion community, and that the 50 to 100 members I speak to every day would let me know if they thought ISN was doing something to interfere with their fun or ISK making. Intellectually I assume that the people I am talking to, and about are reasonable, intelligent, individuals. Reality proves me wrong almost every time and a seemingly vast majority of people would rather shoot their computer with a Megapulse laser than listen to reason.
But here goes a little reason, egomaniacs should tune out now so they donGÇÖt waste any their time coming up with witty retorts that have no relevance. Incursion are primarily a way to make ISK to fund other ventures in EVE, some PLEXGÇÖing accounts others buying GÇÿpew pewGÇÖ ships for pirate and PVP action. Incursion themselves have little or no impact on gameplay and are of no concern for the vast majority of players in eve so taking down an incursion hurts nobody except the player that didnGÇÖt get to make a profit from the rat killing. Intuitive player capitalize on the communitiesGÇÖ needs of ammo, modules, and ships. Other players Capitalize on trust, setting the stage for drama and dissent allows them to use a community to gain riches and power without anyone being the wiser, GÇ£We are taking this MOM site to teach ISN whoGÇÖs in charge.GÇ¥ IsnGÇÖt the community in charge, and wouldnGÇÖt the community want to make ISK and then go do something else, not feed the ego of some guy that logs in only to scoop the loot then log back into his Nul sec Toon and ignore the community till the Empire Cyno that is Constellation control lets him know it is time to go get another payday. Believe it or not there are some players that have 4 GÇô 6 Toons in the MOM site when it goes down. Add that up and they are making more ISK in one site than many other will make in a week of waiting for fleet invites and grinding.
This schoolyard Bully is telling us all he is in charge and he's looking out for your best interest, my only question:When has a bully ever looked out for anyone but himself.
Individual Communities needs to look at who is getting the most, and decide if supporting those goals is in line with their own goals, then act accordingly. Getting it done is easy, dealing with drama not so much. |

EFT Allstar
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.25 05:21:00 -
[360] - Quote
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14423503 |
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goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
23
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Posted - 2012.08.25 07:33:00 -
[361] - Quote
EFT Allstar wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14423503
That was so much fun can't wait to do it again.
Getting it done is easy, dealing with drama not so much. |

Kodavor
Mine3
25
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Posted - 2012.08.25 10:28:00 -
[362] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:EFT Allstar wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14423503 That was so much fun can't wait to do it again.
+1 %) |

Kodavor
Mine3
25
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Posted - 2012.08.25 10:36:00 -
[363] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:I feel like a schoolboy that is getting punished for knowing the schoolyard bully. He has taken someone elseGÇÖs lunch money and now the whole class has to go without recess till he admits what he has done, but the big lug is to thickheaded to realize he is at fault.
Through rumor control I have been told that TVP has decided to end all incursions to force ISN to run their incursion only and to pressure ISN management into accepting an GÇÿIncursion Community AgreementGÇÖ. Basically an agreement that requires ISN to not do MOM sites without leaving the ability to have the loot stolen by someoneGÇÖs alt or the site stolen by an overwhelming TVP fleet in a contest. either way GÇÿtheyGÇÖ, whoever GÇÿtheyGÇÖ are, want to know what, when, and where. More importantly they want to make a deal no one will take, as GÇÿtheyGÇÖ are fine with the Status Quo.
The contempt TVP has of any Incursion runner not inside their scope of control is narcissistic and borderline egomaniacal. So they lash out blindly and hit everything but their target. If the latest rumor is anywhere in the scope of reality (funny word in a fantasy world) then the ISK per hour a TVP player will make vs. the ISK per hour an ISN member will make is pathetic. ISN fleet can grind the contestation control down to 0 in just under 5 hours with absolutely no help, making each fleet member 600 to 700million ISK. Best estimate for a HQ fleet in this amount of time is 250 million under ideal conditions. Conversely I have been messaged by a TVP-FC not long ago asking if ISN was coming to an incursion to grind it down as they had tried for 12 hours and been unable to make gains on an 18% constellation control.
The basis for the latest drama incurred on our Incursion life is supposedly to make ISN bow to the will of the incursion community, Problem I have with this idea, is that I always thought GÇÿWeGÇÖ are the Incursion community, and that the 50 to 100 members I speak to every day would let me know if they thought ISN was doing something to interfere with their fun or ISK making. Intellectually I assume that the people I am talking to, and about, are reasonable, intelligent, individuals. Reality proves me wrong almost every time and a seemingly vast majority of people would rather shoot their computer with a Megapulse laser than listen to reason.
But here goes a little reason, egomaniacs should tune out now so they donGÇÖt waste any their time coming up with witty retorts that have no relevance. Incursion are primarily a way to make ISK to fund other ventures in EVE, some PLEXGÇÖing accounts others buying GÇÿpew pewGÇÖ ships for pirate and PVP action. Incursion themselves have little or no impact on gameplay and are of no concern for the vast majority of players in eve so taking down an incursion hurts nobody except the player that didnGÇÖt get to make a profit from the rat killing. Intuitive player capitalize on the communitiesGÇÖ needs of ammo, modules, and ships. Other players Capitalize on trust, setting the stage for drama and dissent allows them to use a community to gain riches and power without anyone being the wiser, GÇ£We are taking this MOM site to teach ISN whoGÇÖs in charge.GÇ¥ IsnGÇÖt the community in charge, and wouldnGÇÖt the community want to make ISK and then go do something else, not feed the ego of some guy that logs in only to scoop the loot then log back into his Nul sec Toon and ignore the community till the Empire Cyno that is Constellation control lets him know it is time to go get another payday. Believe it or not there are some players that have 4 GÇô 6 Toons in the MOM site when it goes down. Add that up and they are making more ISK in one site than many other will make in a week of waiting for fleet invites and grinding.
This schoolyard Bully is telling us all he is in charge and he's looking out for your best interest, my only question:When has a bully ever looked out for anyone but himself.
Individual Communities needs to look at who is getting the most, and decide if supporting those goals is in line with their own goals, then act accordingly.
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Fishsticks Fred
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
23
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Posted - 2012.08.25 12:42:00 -
[364] - Quote
All this has happened before, and all this will happen again. |

Vrykolakasis
Trinity Operations Aurora Irae
60
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Posted - 2012.08.25 16:34:00 -
[365] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:EFT Allstar wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14423503 That was so much fun can't wait to do it again.
Indeed. |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
284
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Posted - 2012.08.26 17:53:00 -
[366] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:goldiiee wrote:I feel like a schoolboy that is getting punished for knowing the schoolyard bully. He has taken someone elseGÇÖs lunch money and now the whole class has to go without recess till he admits what he has done, but the big lug is to thickheaded to realize he is at fault.
Through rumor control I have been told that TVP has decided to end all incursions to force ISN to run their incursion only and to pressure ISN management into accepting an GÇÿIncursion Community AgreementGÇÖ. Basically an agreement that requires ISN to not do MOM sites without leaving the ability to have the loot stolen by someoneGÇÖs alt or the site stolen by an overwhelming TVP fleet in a contest. either way GÇÿtheyGÇÖ, whoever GÇÿtheyGÇÖ are, want to know what, when, and where. More importantly they want to make a deal no one will take, as GÇÿtheyGÇÖ are fine with the Status Quo.
The contempt TVP has of any Incursion runner not inside their scope of control is narcissistic and borderline egomaniacal. So they lash out blindly and hit everything but their target. If the latest rumor is anywhere in the scope of reality (funny word in a fantasy world) then the ISK per hour a TVP player will make vs. the ISK per hour an ISN member will make is pathetic. ISN fleet can grind the contestation control down to 0 in just under 5 hours with absolutely no help, making each fleet member 600 to 700million ISK. Best estimate for a HQ fleet in this amount of time is 250 million under ideal conditions. Conversely I have been messaged by a TVP-FC not long ago asking if ISN was coming to an incursion to grind it down as they had tried for 12 hours and been unable to make gains on an 18% constellation control.
The basis for the latest drama incurred on our Incursion life is supposedly to make ISN bow to the will of the incursion community, Problem I have with this idea, is that I always thought GÇÿWeGÇÖ are the Incursion community, and that the 50 to 100 members I speak to every day would let me know if they thought ISN was doing something to interfere with their fun or ISK making. Intellectually I assume that the people I am talking to, and about, are reasonable, intelligent, individuals. Reality proves me wrong almost every time and a seemingly vast majority of people would rather shoot their computer with a Megapulse laser than listen to reason.
But here goes a little reason, egomaniacs should tune out now so they donGÇÖt waste any their time coming up with witty retorts that have no relevance. Incursion are primarily a way to make ISK to fund other ventures in EVE, some PLEXGÇÖing accounts others buying GÇÿpew pewGÇÖ ships for pirate and PVP action. Incursion themselves have little or no impact on gameplay and are of no concern for the vast majority of players in eve so taking down an incursion hurts nobody except the player that didnGÇÖt get to make a profit from the rat killing. Intuitive player capitalize on the communitiesGÇÖ needs of ammo, modules, and ships. Other players Capitalize on trust, setting the stage for drama and dissent allows them to use a community to gain riches and power without anyone being the wiser, GÇ£We are taking this MOM site to teach ISN whoGÇÖs in charge.GÇ¥ IsnGÇÖt the community in charge, and wouldnGÇÖt the community want to make ISK and then go do something else, not feed the ego of some guy that logs in only to scoop the loot then log back into his Nul sec Toon and ignore the community till the Empire Cyno that is Constellation control lets him know it is time to go get another payday. Believe it or not there are some players that have 4 GÇô 6 Toons in the MOM site when it goes down. Add that up and they are making more ISK in one site than many other will make in a week of waiting for fleet invites and grinding.
This schoolyard Bully is telling us all he is in charge and he's looking out for your best interest, my only question:When has a bully ever looked out for anyone but himself.
Individual Communities needs to look at who is getting the most, and decide if supporting those goals is in line with their own goals, then act accordingly.
Actually I remember the old 4 hour Incursion runs before the farming agreement was fun. Looks like CCP has sped up the Incursion spawn rate in HI SEC to one a day anyways. Means more moving & 'Caravans of the Heavens' but that comes par and parcel with Incursion running anyways  =========================================================
EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% Nullsec residents. EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about... |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
284
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Posted - 2012.08.26 17:55:00 -
[367] - Quote
EFT Allstar wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14423503
How come there were no logi kills? They turn tail that quickly? Was it Noble dual boxing with his logi? =========================================================
EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% Nullsec residents. EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about... |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
27
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Posted - 2012.08.26 20:07:00 -
[368] - Quote
DarthNefarius wrote:EFT Allstar wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14423503 How come there were no logi kills? They turn tail that quickly? Was it Noble dual boxing with his logi?
No the logis were orbiting with me 'the only arty mach' at 45+ km so they were safe. Just needed a better target for my big ass guns that that little ass scimi. Getting it done is easy, dealing with drama not so much. |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
284
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Posted - 2012.08.26 23:03:00 -
[369] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:EFT Allstar wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14423503 How come there were no logi kills? They turn tail that quickly? Was it Noble dual boxing with his logi? No the logis were orbiting with me 'the only arty mach' at 45+ km so they were safe. Just needed a better target for my big ass guns that that little ass scimi.
Live & learn... FW lo sec sounds like a bit too hotly contested to do Incursions for my taste... see the FW tears in GD about the same lo sec incursion popping up twice in a roll there? RNG is random! Only Funnier GD thread is the NULL sec tears thread about incursions being non consensual PvE lol
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EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% Nullsec residents. EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about... |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
29
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Posted - 2012.08.27 15:59:00 -
[370] - Quote
DarthNefarius wrote:goldiiee wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:EFT Allstar wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14423503 How come there were no logi kills? They turn tail that quickly? Was it Noble dual boxing with his logi? No the logis were orbiting with me 'the only arty mach' at 45+ km so they were safe. Just needed a better target for my big ass guns that that little ass scimi. Live & learn... FW lo sec sounds like a bit too hotly contested to do Incursions for my taste... see the FW tears in GD about the same lo sec incursion popping up twice in a roll there? RNG is random! Only Funnier GD thread is the NULL sec tears thread about incursions being non consensual PvE lol
Yeah I am sure the temptation to make that 'easy' ISK in Incursion sites, combined with the penaties to all ships, bounties, and effects add to that the need of many players to do something/anything leads to many a 'DOH!!' moment in EVE. Getting it done is easy, dealing with drama not so much. |
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Challu
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
52
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:23:00 -
[371] - Quote
goldiiee, your tirade reminds me of the saying, "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" 
Open any book on game theory and you'll see why the ISN-TVP saga is continuing how it is. It is preferential for both parties to cooperate, but neither trusts the other (I'll leave it to others to assign fault for this) and so invariably one or the other defects.
And irrespective of who you think defected first, it's been shown that the tit-for-tat strategy is best to pursue from a utility maximization point of view before both parties agree to cooperate.
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goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
29
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:46:00 -
[372] - Quote
Challu wrote:goldiiee, your tirade reminds me of the saying, "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"  Open any book on game theory and you'll see why the ISN-TVP saga is continuing how it is. It is preferential for both parties to cooperate, but neither trusts the other (I'll leave it to others to assign fault for this) and so invariably one or the other defects. And irrespective of who you think defected first, it's been shown that the tit-for-tat strategy is best to pursue from a utility maximization point of view before both parties agree to cooperate.
Reason and thought rarely are present here. I think a thesis on game theory could be written from the drama that happens here. Getting it done is easy, dealing with drama not so much. |

Weasel Juice
Exanimo Inc Anger Management.
12
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Posted - 2012.08.28 14:43:00 -
[373] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:Challu wrote:goldiiee, your tirade reminds me of the saying, "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"  Open any book on game theory and you'll see why the ISN-TVP saga is continuing how it is. It is preferential for both parties to cooperate, but neither trusts the other (I'll leave it to others to assign fault for this) and so invariably one or the other defects. And irrespective of who you think defected first, it's been shown that the tit-for-tat strategy is best to pursue from a utility maximization point of view before both parties agree to cooperate. Reason and thought rarely are present here. I think a thesis on game theory could be written from the drama that happens here.
Oh I love numbers and analysis! Maybe I should start one, and get a PHD for it! |

Pony Lord Planck
Keith Planck's Secret Pony Brigade
0
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Posted - 2012.08.28 23:14:00 -
[374] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:Challu wrote:goldiiee, your tirade reminds me of the saying, "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"  Open any book on game theory and you'll see why the ISN-TVP saga is continuing how it is. It is preferential for both parties to cooperate, but neither trusts the other (I'll leave it to others to assign fault for this) and so invariably one or the other defects. And irrespective of who you think defected first, it's been shown that the tit-for-tat strategy is best to pursue from a utility maximization point of view before both parties agree to cooperate. Reason and thought rarely are present here. I think a thesis on game theory could be written from the drama that happens here.
Highsec = Suburbs Incursions = TV Incursion Drama = TV Drama
Were all basically middle-aged housewives watching "16 and pregnant" \o/ |

Herr Ronin
Intergalactic Slave Network
221
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Posted - 2012.08.30 03:49:00 -
[375] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Herr Ronin Noble Ranger Kodavor ISN Does Mothership SItes? http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Herr Ronin
Intergalactic Slave Network
221
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Posted - 2012.09.01 16:15:00 -
[376] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Herr Ronin Noble Ranger Kodavor ISN Does Mothership SItes? http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg
| Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
317
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Posted - 2012.09.01 18:59:00 -
[377] - Quote
Weasel Juice wrote: Oh I love numbers and analysis! Maybe I should start one, and get a PHD for it!
I hear EVE UNI gives out PhD's 
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EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% Nullsec residents. EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about... |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
0
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Posted - 2012.09.04 16:35:00 -
[378] - Quote
FAIR WARNING
ISN has been griefing the incursion community for a few months now. After waiting well over a year for incursion pilots to realize that their way is the "best way" to play Eve to no avail, they have begun a desperate "war" to force their way of running incursions on the incursion community and to exclude anyone not willing to do it their way. They have joined fleets run by other incursion groups with logi and intentionally let ships die, then posted videos of this to promote themselves. They have pre-loaded HQ sites with the intent of causing a hazard for other groups. They have waged a propoganda war, spreading lies and slandering some very good pilots in the incursion community. They have entered into negotiations in bad faith, never intending on coming to a mutally beneficial agreement in an attempt to dishearten community leaders. I have personally witnessed all of these things and waited patiently for them to grow bored or for a solution to be found by those in charge of the other incursion communities.
ISN's goal is simply to control all of incursions and to force pilots to adhere to their strict (shiny/expensive) fitting guidelines. This of course excludes most newer pilots. While this is well within the Eve mentality of elitism, it is (imho) bad for the community and the game as a whole.
I am tired of waiting for someone to organize a resistance to this and so I have taken action on my own. I have a logi pilot (or 2) who is embedded within the ISN community. This pilot will fly for hours without incident and wait for a key member of ISN to be primaried at a particularly nasty time and then reps will be withheld (or just a bit "slow") with the goal of seeing that ship destroyed. This pilot has been successful already and will succeed again. I do not enjoy this style of play, but feel it is the most effective way to fight back against ISN's strategy, and sometimes fire must be fought with fire.
If you routinely fly with ISN, you are in danger of losing your ship because of this. While I will try to target ISN directors, officers, and those highly active on the griefing front, this is far from an exact science, and war being war, unintended casualties are unavoidable.
Are you an incursion pilot that is fed up with ISN's griefing, and want to help fight against their fascist agenda, there are quite a few things you can do:
1 - Infiltration and Sabotage as logistics. The most effective method is to infiltrate an ISN fleet with logistics and join me in sabotaging ISN's fleets by withholding or simply being a bit slow on shield repairs/capacitor requests. If you have already flown in ISN with logistics, and are tired of their new "direction", you are in a unique position to do something about it.
2 - Infiltration and Sabotage as DPS. Only fly DPS? Join an ISN fleet and subtly sabotage their efforts to run sites. Disconnecting, "forgetting" to get ammo, trolling comms, getting hung up on gates, shooting the wrong tags, "forgetting" to assign drones properly, asking for AFK time, etc. can all be done subtly enough to not raise suspicion while being very frustrating to their FCs.
3 - Wardecs. Got an anonymous alt and tons of incursion ISK you're not doing anything with? Get corporate management to 1 in a few minutes, start a corp, and place a wardec on an ISN griefer. This can cost as little as 50 mil. ISK. Look for targets that have been in a corporation with more than a few members for a good amount of time. This forces them to either drop a corp they enjoy being a member of, or spreading war aggression among ISN logis when they run sites. Get the alt in system when you see the decced ISN member so they must continually be on the lookout. If it is an alt with some PVP skills, you may be able to catch a logi with aggro at a gate or station after completing a site.
4 - Gank their OGB. You can hire mercs for this or scan their booster down, find a friend, and do the deed yourselves with only a couple of tier 3 BCs. Don't forget to bring a low-skill thrasher too and get their pod.
5 - Hunt their pods. A low-skill neutral alt in a thrasher or catalyst outside of the station ISN is staging from can often times find a juicy ISN pod undocking and pop it before they (or CONCORD) can react.
6 - Recruit from ISN Secondary. Put one toon in their channel, and recruit with a second toon. When you see someone new, be sure to let them know about your favorite incursion channel and tell them about what ISN has been doing. Are they having trouble getting into an ISN fleet because it is too restrictive or simply not running? I bet you know a place where they can find a fleet.
These are just a few ways you can help in the effort to fight back against ISN's griefing. I am sure that you can think of other ways become involved in this fight and take an active role in removing the cancerous mass that ISN's leadership has become. My goal is the harmonious cooperation of all incursion groups that we had before, with a fun sense of competition. But until ISN's leadership understands that cooperation is the only way to be successful, they will continue to grief and harass all other incursion groups. YOU are capable of causing change and influencing this struggle.
Any pilots wishing to coordinate efforts or donate resources that will be used against ISN are welcome to contact this character via Evemail. Any useful intel, known ISN officer alts, fleet chat logs, FRAPS of counter-ISN ops, are also very welcome. All submissions will remain completely anonymous unless otherwise specified. Videos and screen shots will be scrubbed of all identifying information before release.
tl;dr -- Stop waiting around for someone to fix the ISN problem for you and TAKE ACTION. |

Kodavor
Mine3
27
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Posted - 2012.09.04 16:58:00 -
[379] - Quote
[quote]Are you an incursion pilot that is fed up with ISN's griefing, and want to help fight against their fascist agenda, there are quite a few things you can do:[/quote
I find this VERY offensive and disturbing propogande . This person does not know what he is talking about . Could you please remove his post ? Thank you . |

Kodavor
Mine3
27
|
Posted - 2012.09.04 16:59:00 -
[380] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:FAIR WARNINGISN has been griefing the incursion community for a few months now. After waiting well over a year for incursion pilots to realize that their way is the "best way" to play Eve to no avail, they have begun a desperate "war" to force their way of running incursions on the incursion community and to exclude anyone not willing to do it their way. They have joined fleets run by other incursion groups with logi and intentionally let ships die, then posted videos of this to promote themselves. They have pre-loaded HQ sites with the intent of causing a hazard for other groups. They have waged a propoganda war, spreading lies and slandering some very good pilots in the incursion community. They have entered into negotiations in bad faith, never intending on coming to a mutally beneficial agreement in an attempt to dishearten community leaders. I have witnessed all of these things and waited patiently for them to grow bored, but alas they are easily amused. ISN's goal is simply to control all of incursions and to force pilots to adhere to their strict (shiny/expensive) fitting guidelines. This of course excludes most newer pilots. While this is well within the Eve mentality of elitism, it is (imho) bad for the community and the game as a whole. For a very accurate description of ISN's leadership, see this post.I am tired of waiting for someone to organize a resistance to this and so I have taken action on my own. I have a logi pilot (or 2) who is embedded within the ISN community. This pilot will fly for hours without incident and wait for a key member of ISN to be primaried at a particularly nasty time and then reps will be withheld (or just a bit "slow") with the goal of seeing that ship destroyed. This pilot has been successful already and will succeed again. I do not enjoy this style of play, but feel it is the most effective way to fight back against ISN's strategy, and sometimes fire must be fought with fire. If you routinely fly with ISN, you are in danger of losing your ship because of this. While I will try to target ISN directors, officers, and those highly active on the griefing front, this is far from an exact science, and war being war, unintended casualties are unavoidable. Are you an incursion pilot that is fed up with ISN's griefing, and want to help fight against their fascist agenda, there are quite a few things you can do:1 - Infiltration and Sabotage as logistics. The most effective method is to infiltrate an ISN fleet with logistics and join me in sabotaging ISN's fleets by withholding or simply being a bit slow on shield repairs/capacitor requests. If you have already flown in ISN with logistics, and are tired of their new "direction", you are in a unique position to do something about it. 2 - Infiltration and Sabotage as DPS. Only fly DPS? Join an ISN fleet and subtly sabotage their efforts to run sites. Disconnecting, "forgetting" to get ammo, trolling comms, getting hung up on gates, shooting the wrong tags, "forgetting" to assign drones properly, asking for AFK time, etc. can all be done subtly enough to not raise suspicion while being very frustrating to their FCs. 3 - Wardecs. Got an anonymous alt and tons of incursion ISK you're not doing anything with? Get corporate management to 1 in a few minutes, start a corp, and place a wardec on an ISN griefer. This can cost as little as 50 mil. ISK. Look for targets that have been in a corporation with more than a few members for a good amount of time. This forces them to either drop a corp they enjoy being a member of, or spreading war aggression among ISN logis when they run sites. Get the alt in system when you see the decced ISN member so they must continually be on the lookout. If it is an alt with some PVP skills, you may be able to catch a logi with aggro at a gate or station after completing a site. 4 - Gank their OGB. You can hire mercs for this or scan their booster down, find a friend, and do the deed yourselves with only a couple of tier 3 BCs. Don't forget to bring a low-skill thrasher too and get their pod. 5 - Hunt their pods. A low-skill neutral alt in a thrasher or catalyst outside of the station ISN is staging from can often times find a juicy ISN pod undocking and pop it before they (or CONCORD) can react. 6 - Recruit from ISN Secondary. Put one toon in their channel, and recruit with a second toon. When you see someone new, be sure to let them know about your favorite incursion channel and tell them about what ISN has been doing. Are they having trouble getting into an ISN fleet because it is too restrictive or simply not running? I bet you know a place where they can find a fleet. These are just a few ways you can help in the effort to fight back against ISN's griefing. I am sure that you can think of other ways become involved in this fight and take an active role in removing the cancerous mass that ISN's leadership has become. My goal is the harmonious cooperation of all incursion groups that we had before, with a fun sense of competition. But until ISN's leadership understands that cooperation is the only way to be successful, they will continue to grief and harass all other incursion groups. YOU are capable of causing change and influencing this struggle. Any pilots wishing to coordinate efforts or donate resources that will be used against ISN are welcome to contact this character via Evemail. Any useful intel, known ISN officer alts, fleet chat logs, FRAPS of counter-ISN ops, are also very welcome. All submissions will remain completely anonymous unless otherwise specified. Videos and screen shots will be scrubbed of all identifying information before release.
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Weasel Juice
Exanimo Inc Anger Management.
12
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Posted - 2012.09.04 17:02:00 -
[381] - Quote
Care to provide any details as to what exactly we do that griefes the entire community so much, how you know what our goals are, and back it up with proof? If you had ever flown in an ISN fleet, you'd realize the kind of open communication between leadership and member base, see what we actually do and our reasons and would understand how misinformed you are.
P.S.: Griefing to counter supposed griefing. Way to go on the moral highway. |

Bozl1n
Shiva The Retirement Club
2
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Posted - 2012.09.04 17:21:00 -
[382] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:FAIR WARNING
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
I did intend to go threw each and every lie you went threw, but there were so many i really couldnt be bothered.
For the infiltration rabble - our recruitment is closed, ISN always use at least 1 trusted logi in there VG fleets. As well as having a sufficient spider tank to handle ALL the logis failing to rep
If by griefing you mean contesting, well sorry but thats a FEATURE of incursions, because you have never experienced them before in HQs does not mean they didnt exist, every other type of site has ALWAYS been contested, you seem to think that because you take the gate in a HQ system you have a RIGHT to be paid, this is not the case. You will now how to compete for your payout.
If its killing moms early well we did 4 ever, how many incursions did u close over those 2-3 days? Igniting anger in even your own membership.
Did we doing them out of rotation? Whos rotation? The IFCC? ISN dosnt recognise the authority of the IFCC, we never broke our rules only yours, which you broke yourself repeatedly.
Who are you anyway? Im 90% sure this isnt you main, why arent you posting your griefing tactics and hate preaching with your main?
And finally should we wish to "heed" your very scary warning - what it is you demand?
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Bozl1n
Shiva The Retirement Club
2
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Posted - 2012.09.04 17:22:00 -
[383] - Quote
DarthNefarius wrote:EFT Allstar wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14423503 How come there were no logi kills? They turn tail that quickly? Was it Noble dual boxing with his logi?
Yes he was, infact we all were dual boxing our logi.....
Honest |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
0
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Posted - 2012.09.04 17:22:00 -
[384] - Quote
[quote=Kodavor]Quote:Are you an incursion pilot that is fed up with ISN's griefing, and want to help fight against their fascist agenda, there are quite a few things you can do:[/quote
I find this VERY offensive and disturbing propogande . This person does not know what he is talking about . Could you please remove his post ? Thank you .
LOL
Fail petition is fail. So are you. |

Bozl1n
Shiva The Retirement Club
2
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Posted - 2012.09.04 17:27:00 -
[385] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:[quote=Kodavor] Quote:Are you an incursion pilot that is fed up with ISN's griefing, and want to help fight against their fascist agenda, there are quite a few things you can do:[/quote
I find this VERY offensive and disturbing propogande . This person does not know what he is talking about . Could you please remove his post ? Thank you . LOL Fail petition is fail. So are you.
Can you address the questions i asked in above post?
Thank you
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Vrykolakasis
Trinity Operations Aurora Irae
66
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Posted - 2012.09.04 18:23:00 -
[386] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:FAIR WARNING
ISN has been griefing the incursion community for a few months now.
2 - Infiltration and Sabotage as DPS. Only fly DPS? Join an ISN fleet and subtly sabotage their efforts to run sites. Disconnecting, "forgetting" to get ammo, trolling comms, getting hung up on gates, shooting the wrong tags, "forgetting" to assign drones properly, asking for AFK time, etc. can all be done subtly enough to not raise suspicion while being very frustrating to their FCs.
6 - Recruit from ISN Secondary. Put one toon in their channel, and recruit with a second toon. When you see someone new, be sure to let them know about your favorite incursion channel and tell them about what ISN has been doing. Are they having trouble getting into an ISN fleet because it is too restrictive or simply not running? I bet you know a place where they can find a fleet.
As I understand the situation, the following responses should be applicable:
If ISN wanted to actually grief incursions, it would have already happened. A few members have suggested real incursion griefing, and the officers and management have turned the idea down repeatedly.
DPS not flying correctly will be dropped, after warning, whether or not they intentionally wish to risk the fleet, as they are risking the fleet one way or the other. Incorrect piloting is not tolerated. If an FC is frustrated by the actions of a fleet member, the FC has done something wrong by allowing them to remain in fleet.
To my knowledge, FCs or characters not sanctioned by ISN who attempt to recruit - to fleet or other operation/group - from ISN Secondary may be muted without warning. Additionally, ISN entry fits are not absurdly expensive and require only the skills necessary to complete the fit, and as such are only marginally restrictive. ISN fleets not running can hardly be considered griefing.
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Noble Stranger
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.05 16:54:00 -
[387] - Quote
Please remind me ...
Why exactly are we being dragged into this unnecessary bs with TVP?
Yeah sure, HQs are fun, but VG/AS are way more profitable and we can't even get a decent contest out of TVP failfleets. Sure, 4 NRFs in a row and we're golden, but how often do we get that?
Apart from that, this crap with us killing the mom-site is just alienating the community against us.
All of this is just hurting profit and I have 4 accounts to plex.
So again, why? Just because Ronin and Koda are 21 year old tards that seem to want to prove something or have gotten hold of the wrong textbook? ISN is about professionalism. This is childish.
Maybe those of us who want to run professional fleets should start coming up with an alternative plan sans Koda and Ronin.
PS: yes, this is an alt. Still need access to ISN-primary after all  |

Kodavor
Mine3
27
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 17:08:00 -
[388] - Quote
Noble Stranger wrote:Please remind me ... Why exactly are we being dragged into this unnecessary bs with TVP? Yeah sure, HQs are fun, but VG/AS are way more profitable and we can't even get a decent contest out of TVP failfleets. Sure, 4 NRFs in a row and we're golden, but how often do we get that? Apart from that, this crap with us killing the mom-site is just alienating the community against us. All of this is just hurting profit and I have 4 accounts to plex. So again, why? Just because Ronin and Koda are 21 year old tards that seem to want to prove something or have gotten hold of the wrong textbook? ISN is about professionalism. This is childish. Maybe those of us who want to run professional fleets should start coming up with an alternative plan sans Koda and Ronin. PS: yes, this is an alt. Still need access to ISN-primary after all 
Who are you again ? And please do provide the mathematical data backup for your claims of HQ site inefficiency with screenshots from your wallet + LP's + full fleet composittion + fleet member names + FC's . for all the VG's , Assaults and HQ's that you have done and based your judgement on . |

Bozl1n
Shiva The Retirement Club
4
|
Posted - 2012.09.05 17:27:00 -
[389] - Quote
Noble Stranger wrote:Please remind me ... Why exactly are we being dragged into this unnecessary bs with TVP? Yeah sure, HQs are fun, but VG/AS are way more profitable and we can't even get a decent contest out of TVP failfleets. Sure, 4 NRFs in a row and we're golden, but how often do we get that? Apart from that, this crap with us killing the mom-site is just alienating the community against us. All of this is just hurting profit and I have 4 accounts to plex. So again, why? Just because Ronin and Koda are 21 year old tards that seem to want to prove something or have gotten hold of the wrong textbook? ISN is about professionalism. This is childish. Maybe those of us who want to run professional fleets should start coming up with an alternative plan sans Koda and Ronin. PS: yes, this is an alt. Still need access to ISN-primary after all 
I like the name 
Voice your concern to management, ISN would prefer to hear concerns from members, than posts by alts, the members in ISN have as much voice as any1 else. Infact they have the major voice |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
32
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Posted - 2012.09.05 17:49:00 -
[390] - Quote
Noble Stranger wrote:Please remind me ... Why exactly are we being dragged into this unnecessary bs with TVP? Yeah sure, HQs are fun, but VG/AS are way more profitable and we can't even get a decent contest out of TVP failfleets. Sure, 4 NRFs in a row and we're golden, but how often do we get that? 
ISN as a community enjoys both the ISK and the challenge 'Smirk' of Incursions. If you are a pilot with ISN 'doubtful' and have reservations about running HQ sites then voice those concerns on comms or during the pilot meetings. The ISk per hour on HQ sites are actually turning out quite nice well over 100 million an hour for the last few I was in. If you are a troll (Best guess) then you have no frame of reference to even make these comments. Otherwise you would then know when the call goes out to form up for HQ there is also the availability to keep running VG's.
Noble Stranger wrote:Apart from that, this crap with us killing the mom-site is just alienating the community against us.
ISN did not kill the Incursion early, we do what we are best at we run sites, contest sites, and make friends (Best friends in the game) with that goal in mind the Kundalini site is no different than any other site, waiting for the Incursion to withdraw allows time for all the communities to rally a fleet and get in there and contest us. No joke we enjoy this and look forward to it every time
Noble Stranger wrote:All of this is just hurting profit and I have 4 accounts to plex.
Again if you were actually an ISN pilot 4 Plexes would be easy ISK, I guess tripple boxing for a different group doesn't pay as well. (Probally the reason for this post in the first place)
Noble Stranger wrote:Just because Ronin and Koda are 21 year old tards that seem to want to prove something or have gotten hold of the wrong textbook?
Since you guessed the ages of Kodi and Ronin wrong, I would further note that you have never even spoke with them or for that matter on ISN comms at all.
Noble Stranger wrote:This is childish.
You are right about that this forum Post was childish guess your age is showing now.
Your last point?
PS: yes, this is an alt. Still need access to ISN-primary after all.
Most important thing you wrote. If you were a pilot that flew with us then you be in ISN-Primary and you would have known the answers to all of these points and saved me the ten minutes of typing to answer them. Getting it done is easy, dealing with drama not so much. |
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Travis117
APEX ARDENT COALITION Persona Non Gratis
10
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Posted - 2012.09.05 17:58:00 -
[391] - Quote
I think in the only one in tvp that finds the contesting amusing, it does suck but hey its funnier listening to the tears :D |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
83
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Posted - 2012.09.05 17:59:00 -
[392] - Quote
Noble Stranger wrote:Please remind me ... Why exactly are we being dragged into this unnecessary bs with TVP? Yeah sure, HQs are fun, but VG/AS are way more profitable and we can't even get a decent contest out of TVP failfleets. Sure, 4 NRFs in a row and we're golden, but how often do we get that? Apart from that, this crap with us killing the mom-site is just alienating the community against us. All of this is just hurting profit and I have 4 accounts to plex. So again, why? Just because Ronin and Koda are 21 year old tards that seem to want to prove something or have gotten hold of the wrong textbook? ISN is about professionalism. This is childish. Maybe those of us who want to run professional fleets should start coming up with an alternative plan sans Koda and Ronin. PS: yes, this is an alt. Still need access to ISN-primary after all 
ah...choo..pardon me i am alergic to bulls@%t carry on. |

Vrykolakasis
Trinity Operations Aurora Irae
68
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:32:00 -
[393] - Quote
When 30-40 people are online, we contest fewer fleets by running HQs than running 4 VG fleets in 3-4 systems. |

Yeyra
Atlantean Defense Fleet Corrosive.
5
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Posted - 2012.09.06 17:44:00 -
[394] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:FAIR WARNING
ISN has been griefing the incursion community for a few months now.
He is telling the truth! Look! Mean ISN was caught in the act griefing poor TVP!
And now on a serious note: Don't believe everything you hear/read. Make up your own mind. Fly with ISN and see for yourself if we are mean griefers. |

Battle On
Jita Exiles Strategic Warfare Operations Command
6
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Posted - 2012.09.06 18:05:00 -
[395] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:spottington wrote:Definately accurate.
Release the Ponies of war. That i shall... 
Ronin will troll your asses to the ground! |

Herr Ronin
Intergalactic Slave Network
274
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Posted - 2012.09.07 15:04:00 -
[396] - Quote
Vrykolakasis wrote:When 30-40 people are online, we contest fewer fleets by running HQs than running 4 VG fleets in 3-4 systems. (edit) Also: Noble Stranger wrote: So again, why? Just because Ronin and Koda are 21 year old tards that seem to want to prove something or have gotten hold of the wrong textbook? ISN is about professionalism. This is childish.
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qseqf/
^^ | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
1
|
Posted - 2012.09.07 16:17:00 -
[397] - Quote
Earlier I was asked by NiteOwl if I had any input for tonight's ISN Primary meeting.
[14:53:31] NiteOwl > get back to me in a reasonable time so i can get it put on the agenda
While obvious troll is obvious, I decided to form a reply anyway:
ISN is a tree chopping on its own roots. Many of the current ISN pilots got their start because TVP patiently walked them through the process of learning incursions. If ISN is successful at destroying TVP, then ISN will eventually wither and die as pilots phase out of incursioning or out of Eve. By not realizing this, ISN's leadership is killing ISN, they are just too short-sighted to see it coming. While some pilots have been hand-held through the learning process in the past week, that has mainly been about trying to get enough people to field an HQ fleet to contest TVP off the field. Once TVP is gone, this short increase in patience will go with it. To quote Maraidian's recent quote to a TVP pilot attempting to transition to ISN:
n++[ 2012.09.05 17:29:27 ] Maraudian > ISN is not for everyone, its better to maintain the quality of our community than to compromise it
ISN has become an extension of Herr Ronin's ego. Even the fitting standards are based solely on his whim. Look at his wording for the recent changes. "NCO's are something that interest's me, This interest has rekindled the fire for the use of my Sleipnir and Loki, that being said we are currently starting to look into brining back these fleet comps," (original errors left intact) I see a bunch of ME and MY and not a lot of US. And now he is running for CSM? ISN has become less about what's good for ISN and more what is good for Herr Ronin's ego.
Speaking of which, how is destroying TVP an accomplishment worth bragging about? Not only are most of the pilots newer than ISN pilots by definition, but TVP has done most of the heavy lifting required to destroy itself through poor managerial decisions. It's like beating your kid brother at checkers after he got mad and knocked half his pieces off the board in frustration. Is this something to be proud of? For Herr Ronin, the answer is probably yes, but how does the rest of ISN feel about this?
Herr Ronin's direction for ISN has made it look unprofessional in the eyes of the community and reflects poorly on those who fly with ISN. The ISN community now consists of Herr Ronin, a few fanatical and unintelligent disciples, and a bunch of people who are keeping their mouths shut and trying not to burn bridges while making ISK. However, it is undeniable that a lot of people are pissed off about his underhanded and immature tactics in this conflict. This kind of garbage always comes home to roost in the end in some form and it won't be just Herr Ronin who is held accountable or made to pay a price.
Those who are going along with Herr Ronin's agenda can rationalize their actions all they want. "This is EVE!" "This is how CCP meant incursions to be!" "Contests are not griefing!" All true. However, Eve and the incursion community as a whole will suffer from the loss of an inclusive, friendly, and consistent group like TVP in the end. It will all be a little colder, a little snobbier, a little smaller, a little less friendly, a little pettier, and just plain ol' less fun without TVP. All to feed one little man's ego.
It will be interesting to hear the reactions to my input at the upcoming meeting. I look forward to it. |

Yeyra
Atlantean Defense Fleet Corrosive.
6
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:33:00 -
[398] - Quote
I get the impression you don't like Herr Ronin. |

Herr Ronin
Intergalactic Slave Network
274
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Posted - 2012.09.07 16:36:00 -
[399] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Earlier I was asked by NiteOwl if I had any input for tonight's ISN Primary meeting.
[14:53:31] NiteOwl > get back to me in a reasonable time so i can get it put on the agenda
While obvious troll is obvious, I decided to form a reply anyway:
ISN is a tree chopping on its own roots. Many of the current ISN pilots got their start because TVP patiently walked them through the process of learning incursions. If ISN is successful at destroying TVP, then ISN will eventually wither and die as pilots phase out of incursioning or out of Eve. By not realizing this, ISN's leadership is killing ISN, they are just too short-sighted to see it coming. While some pilots have been hand-held through the learning process in the past week, that has mainly been about trying to get enough people to field an HQ fleet to contest TVP off the field. Once TVP is gone, this short increase in patience will go with it. To quote Maraidian's recent quote to a TVP pilot attempting to transition to ISN:
n++[ 2012.09.05 17:29:27 ] Maraudian > ISN is not for everyone, its better to maintain the quality of our community than to compromise it
ISN has become an extension of Herr Ronin's ego. Even the fitting standards are based solely on his whim. Look at his wording for the recent changes. "NCO's are something that interest's me, This interest has rekindled the fire for the use of my Sleipnir and Loki, that being said we are currently starting to look into brining back these fleet comps," (original errors left intact) I see a bunch of ME and MY and not a lot of US. And now he is running for CSM? ISN has become less about what's good for ISN and more what is good for Herr Ronin's ego.
Speaking of which, how is destroying TVP an accomplishment worth bragging about? Not only are most of the pilots newer than ISN pilots by definition, but TVP has done most of the heavy lifting required to destroy itself through poor managerial decisions. It's like beating your kid brother at checkers after he got mad and knocked half his pieces off the board in frustration. Is this something to be proud of? For Herr Ronin, the answer is probably yes, but how does the rest of ISN feel about this?
Herr Ronin's direction for ISN has made it look unprofessional in the eyes of the community and reflects poorly on those who fly with ISN. The ISN community now consists of Herr Ronin, a few fanatical and unintelligent disciples, and a bunch of people who are keeping their mouths shut and trying not to burn bridges while making ISK. However, it is undeniable that a lot of people are pissed off about his underhanded and immature tactics in this conflict. This kind of garbage always comes home to roost in the end in some form and it won't be just Herr Ronin who is held accountable or made to pay a price.
Those who are going along with Herr Ronin's agenda can rationalize their actions all they want. "This is EVE!" "This is how CCP meant incursions to be!" "Contests are not griefing!" All true. However, Eve and the incursion community as a whole will suffer from the loss of an inclusive, friendly, and consistent group like TVP in the end. It will all be a little colder, a little snobbier, a little smaller, a little less friendly, a little pettier, and just plain ol' less fun without TVP. All to feed one little man's ego.
It will be interesting to hear the reactions to my input at the upcoming meeting. I look forward to it.
Thank you for your feedback and point's, they will be discussed at the meeting. | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Weasel Juice
Exanimo Inc Anger Management.
14
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Posted - 2012.09.07 18:48:00 -
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Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Earlier I was asked by NiteOwl if I had any input for tonight's ISN Primary meeting. Bla bla bla bla.
Incursions have always been dominated by fleets that optimize performance over fun, because of contests.
To say "Please let us grind incursions without contesting - you are destroying us" is like saying "Let us do sleeper sites without ganking - you are destroying us".
Do deny the nature of incursions, and blindly imagining you're riding on ponys is to ignorably deny game mechanics.
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
336
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Posted - 2012.09.07 19:12:00 -
[401] - Quote
Weasel Juice wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Earlier I was asked by NiteOwl if I had any input for tonight's ISN Primary meeting. Bla bla bla bla. Incursions have always been dominated by fleets that optimize performance over fun, because of contests. To say "Please let us grind incursions without contesting - you are destroying us" is like saying "Let us do sleeper sites without ganking - you are destroying us". Do deny the nature of incursions, and blindly imagining you're riding on ponys is to ignorably deny game mechanics.
Not true really Incursions were dominated by a group of FC's that got together and decided to have a farming agreement ( which I opposed but was voted down ) after CCP a bug the Kundalini manifest had made it invulnerable. Originally the armour fleet prevailed but the sheer number of shield ships soon dominated but the agreements withstood attacks by goons, Brick/traitor turncoat Ammzi, neither of which came close to killing the agreement. Then came the CCP escalation NERF which almost killed HI sec incursions if itwas not for the FC's sticking together like it ABSOLUTELY KILLED NULL & LO SEC INCURSIONS.
The blitz fleets where always dependant on the larger 2 chat channels agreement to collect on the LP pools and to recruit.
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Jebsar
Z-ward
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 11:38:00 -
[402] - Quote
Quote:The blitz fleets where always dependant on the larger 2 chat channels agreement to collect on the LP pools and to recruit.
We don't need any other incursion channel to pull recruits from, nor do we need any other channel to collect incursion LP pools.
Quote:Then came the CCP escalation NERF which almost killed HI sec incursions if itwas not for the FC's sticking together like it ABSOLUTELY KILLED NULL & LO SEC INCURSIONS.
This rabble makes very little sense, however if you're suggesting high sec incursions would've died without btl, tvp and tdf during the nerf you're once again wrong.
As long as there's a pilot demand for fleets and isk to be made, when old communities collapse there will always be new ones. If this isn't the case, CCP really needs to look at the content and rewards for it. |

gabrial13
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 18:03:00 -
[403] - Quote
Hi, just a recently new member of ISN primary channel just wishing to say since joining ISN fleets I have not seen any examples of the type of foul play that ISN have been accused of in this forum.
Their fleets are very freindly and efficient , any doubts regarding that please join their fleets and see. Have fun and make ISK  |

Herr Ronin
Intergalactic Slave Network
281
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Posted - 2012.09.08 19:00:00 -
[404] - Quote
gabrial13 wrote:Hi, just a recently new member of ISN primary channel just wishing to say since joining ISN fleets I have not seen any examples of the type of foul play that ISN have been accused of in this forum. Their fleets are very freindly and efficient , any doubts regarding that please join their fleets and see. Have fun and make ISK 
Good to see Noir pilots pleased with the Ultra Carebearing!
 | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
2
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Posted - 2012.09.08 19:49:00 -
[405] - Quote
Jebsar wrote: We don't need any other incursion channel to pull recruits from, nor do we need any other channel to collect incursion LP pools.
ISN SECONDARY:
[19:15:52] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it .
[19:17:17] ISN Primary Pilot > ^ if no response here, should we post in incursion local?
[19:20:51] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it .
[19:26:16] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it .
[19:51:33] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it .
  
How's that "we don't need nobody" philosophy working out for you guys? How about the "shiny faction BS only " philosophy?  |

Jebsar
Z-ward
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 20:25:00 -
[406] - Quote
http://imgur.com/XT5sw
Isk efficiency for the night seems just fine, thanks for your concern mr. troll. As for recruiting from public channels, it's an experiment we're trying out for the evening.
Our ranks have been filling quite nicely recently with people getting tired of TVP leadership's obnoxious attitude. So much that In fact we've actually had to close down recruitment to our primary channel for now.
Now shoo, or try harder troll. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
38
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Posted - 2012.09.08 20:32:00 -
[407] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Jebsar wrote: We don't need any other incursion channel to pull recruits from, nor do we need any other channel to collect incursion LP pools.
ISN SECONDARY: [19:15:52] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:17:17] ISN Primary Pilot > ^ if no response here, should we post in incursion local? [19:20:51] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:26:16] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:51:33] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:59:22] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . (15 minutes later, still no fleet running)    How's that "we don't need nobody" philosophy working out for you guys? How about the "shiny faction BS only " philosophy? Also, can you please give us your ISK/hr efficiency numbers for the above logged hour?
Well besides bieng wrong about the fleet operation status, This was an attempt to invite toons with substandard skills and substandard ships so they can make isk and see how easily it can be done. Allowing 5 of these in a fleet should not affect the ISK/HR thus our dedicated primary members are not affected, and it allow us to sculpture new members the way we allways have.
I have never ran with TVP, I was picked flying while flying a maelstrom in a pub fleet. I trained for 5 more days to get a Mach, and paid for it with isk earned while flying with ISN 8 Months ago. Getting it done is easy, dealing with drama not so much. |

Snatch Pinion
Jitex Inc.
1
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Posted - 2012.09.08 20:39:00 -
[408] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Jebsar wrote: We don't need any other incursion channel to pull recruits from, nor do we need any other channel to collect incursion LP pools.
ISN SECONDARY: [19:15:52] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:17:17] ISN Primary Pilot > ^ if no response here, should we post in incursion local? [19:20:51] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:26:16] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:51:33] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:59:22] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it .    How's that "we don't need nobody" philosophy working out for you guys? How about the "shiny faction BS only " philosophy? 
You are a sad angry little man. However I digress, we will tone down the contesting against TVP. We believe that other communities should exist and we all should get along. It'd be a shame to see pilots leave incursions and the game due to contesting and bad blood, besides contesting TVP isn't a contest at all, it's pillaging. We are bringing some noobs in to show them what we do, our efficiency and give them incentive to come back when their skills and fittings can match our standards, also to show them that we are not bad people. You said that ISN is killing their base by 'griefing' TVP, however you you failed to consider the worst possible outcome. Pilots are already walking over by the dozen. We do feel TVP and other communities should exist and have fun, but if we continue to see the ISN vitriol circlejerk in your channels, your wardeccing alliances, preloading sites, and jamming our logis, then let it be known the possible outcome of ramping up the contests to full time and creating our own noob pilot HQ channel, effectively kill TVP, turning it into the next BTL. This is the worst case scenario for TVP, but instead of enacting that, we would rather defuse this situation and let everyone go back to drama free isk farming. If I can stop trolling channels and posting demotivational memes, and if we can ease up on contesting, then you can stop wardeccing, jamminging, and preloading in TVP's name, while pointing at ISN screaming "look at those griefers".
We can all go back to getting along and existing side by side, maybe you can't, but most everyone else has voiced they would prefer this outcome, instead of the alternative. |

Bozl1n
Shiva The Retirement Club
10
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Posted - 2012.09.08 21:19:00 -
[409] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Jebsar wrote: We don't need any other incursion channel to pull recruits from, nor do we need any other channel to collect incursion LP pools.
ISN SECONDARY: [19:15:52] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:17:17] ISN Primary Pilot > ^ if no response here, should we post in incursion local? [19:20:51] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:26:16] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:51:33] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . [19:59:22] ISN Management > ISN HQ fleet has 5 slots for ANY battleships that are properly tanked . Meta 4 turets / missles / you have it tanked . - bring it . (15 minutes later, still no fleet running)    How's that "we don't need nobody" philosophy working out for you guys? How about the "shiny faction BS only " philosophy? Also, can you please give us your ISK/hr efficiency numbers for the above logged hour?
Still butt hurt from yesterday i see
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Kallie Madeveda
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 22:14:00 -
[410] - Quote
DarthNefarius wrote:
The blitz fleets where always dependant on the larger 2 chat channels agreement to collect on the LP pools and to recruit.
What the big bosses forgot to mention is the following: By the two communities you mean BTL and TDF, if i'm correct. If that's the case the agreement is obsolete since both communities cant do this anymore. TDF cannot field a mom fleet anymore, this is the case since a long time now. Btl is dead.
It is time, like with everything in this game to evolve. Therefore the agreement needs to be either set aside or redone. If redone the following might work:
Every Mom is up for contest to every incursion community out there. but with go down 'x hours' after with drawl
In the mean time, a possible solution to this drama can be: ISN ignores the existence of TVP, and goes about their business like normal. Eventually the drama will wither away, or TVP will die, whatever comes first.
Just my 2 isk. |
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Elistea
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:44:00 -
[411] - Quote
Does ISN runs armor fleets? |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
38
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:45:00 -
[412] - Quote
Elistea wrote:Does ISN runs armor fleets?
Not in high sec.
Guess i should add to that, We run shield fleets exclusively in high sec, since the 'know vs unkown' variables in high sec never change. A single deadspace shield module is often all that is required for tank on many Incursion sites, allowing for dammage mods and tracking/scan res mods to be used in all remaining slots. Getting it done is easy, dealing with drama not so much. |

Kadobloc
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.09.09 23:53:00 -
[413] - Quote
In all honesty i think its pathetic that you follow a fleet around the system just so you can "earn more isk" when your fleets are setup so elitest that you may call it contesting when in a matter of fact I call it harrassment and griefing ; you win the contest at actually no extra isk/hour and **** off the only community that has tried to re-engage people into running incursions no matter the ship you run.
Once more I think its pathetic that two communities can not get a long and come up with some sort of agreement where both the elitest BS (bulls&1t) Important internet spaceship and the community trying to help all types of pilots actually win.
In my opinion ISN are doing no different to what BTL and other VG runners did which lead to the whole damn mess of incursions in the first place.
You talk about contesting - and yet the conversations i have had with certain ISN members results in one party winning (usually Nobles men) and one party loosing. WAKE THE **** UP. Both parties are here to run incursions and make ISK:
TVP need to quicken up inbetween sites
ISN need to be more respectful and look at the bigger picture.
The sites are 20 minutes long each and to any normal person getting nothing to show for it after waiting 20 minutes to start will eventually make ISN the only source of HQ runners. I sure as hell don't want to spend all day at work to get home and to be stalked for the duration of my evening by spotty 13 year olds. Once more I do not want to be pigeon holed into being called a "elitest prick"; I have no loyalties but in this instance it could be the only option.
Incursions are there for everyone; so i urge both parties to stop being jumped up little girls and i especially want to see more control over this ISK/Hour shite - its a god damn game and any "team based" activity should be rewarded; not just one party who just so happened to use setups that allow a great number to be involved.
Noble you may use your charm on some people; i can see right through your BS about you want incursion to be run by all... You want people running them your way or not at all... Dont kill incursions again!! |

Yeyra
Atlantean Defense Fleet Corrosive.
7
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Posted - 2012.09.10 01:08:00 -
[414] - Quote
Why are you hiding behind an alt?
I agree with you on certain points, but the message of your post is "ISN is bad!" and "I don't like Noble Ranger." not "Stop this bullshit!". You may say you have no loyalties, but you're clearly taking sides. You ignore/don't mention all the bullshit TVP Managment did, that lead to this unecessary drama in the first place. Most notably the "Let's pop every MOM as soon as the next High Sec Incursion spawns." week. And the fact that you're hiding behind an alt, doesn't make you look better. I can't take you serious because of that, even though I partially agree with you. |

Snatch Pinion
Jitex Inc.
3
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Posted - 2012.09.10 01:34:00 -
[415] - Quote
Kadobloc wrote:In all honesty i think its pathetic that you follow a fleet around the system just so you can "earn more isk" when your fleets are setup so elitest that you may call it contesting when in a matter of fact I call it harrassment and griefing ; you win the contest at actually no extra isk/hour and **** off the only community that has tried to re-engage people into running incursions no matter the ship you run. Once more I think its pathetic that two communities can not get a long and come up with some sort of agreement where both the elitest BS (bulls&1t) Important internet spaceship and the community trying to help all types of pilots actually win. In other words, allow everyone to make ISK running HQ's. In my opinion ISN are doing no different to what BTL and other VG runners did which lead to the whole damn mess of incursions in the first place and thats what the clowns at CCP don't see, or do and aren't brave enough to put in some sort of mechanic stopping this type of gameplay. You talk about contesting - and yet the conversations i have had with certain ISN members results in one party winning (usually Nobles men) and one party loosing. WAKE THE **** UP. Both parties are here to run incursions and make ISK:  TVP need to quicken up inbetween sites  ISN need to be more respectful and look at the bigger picture. The sites are 20 minutes long each and to any normal person getting nothing to show for it after waiting 20 minutes to start will eventually make ISN the only source of HQ runners. I sure as hell don't want to spend all day at work to get home and to be stalked for the duration of my evening by spotty 13 year olds. Once more I do not want to be pigeon holed into being called a "elitest prick"; I have no loyalties but in this instance it could be the only option. Incursions are there for everyone; so i urge both parties to stop being jumped up little girls and i especially want to see more control over this ISK/Hour shite - its a god damn game and any "team based" activity should be rewarded; not just one party who just so happened to use setups that only a few can field. Noble you may use your charm on some people; i can see right through your BS about your desire for incursion to be run by all... You want people running them your way or not at all... Dont kill incursions again or a better statement could be don't allow CCP to bring the nerf hammer down on them again!! Its your choice; people will hold you, ISN and TVP responsible for what ever the outcome maybe!
Really?
One, what is up with carebears posting on the forums w/ their noob alts? Two, you clearly have shown you know little about Noble, ISN or how contests work in correlation to ISK. The contests do greatly reduce the time it takes to do the sites, therefor using math and stuff, more ISK per hour. ISN has lightened up on the contests, as we'd really prefer a proper contest. We will no longer follow fleets consecutively to drive them out of system.
TVP was only contested twice today, one to test to see if a TPPH could be contested while TVP was halfway done in the third room, especially to see if the first two rooms matter at all for contests (we didn't expect to win that one), the other reason TVP got contested today was because Lando just had to run his mouth. If you're mad about the MOM being contested, well, get used to it. ISN didn't sign off on any agreements over MOM rotation and the site is a free for all.
Regardless of what you believe ISN would like to see the drama end and everyone going back to making ISK and having fun, TVP included. In the latest meeting it was brought up, the idea of ramping up contests to full time and creating ISN's own public HQ channel, killing TVP in one fell swoop. It was Noble who shot the idea down, stating we want other communities to exist and have fun. It was Noble who told us to take it easier on contests, stop trolling, and be nicer to one another. Noble and the rest of ISN can't stand language like "our HQs", "our sites", "our motherships", "my incursions" as we read it in TVP. What we don't want is a monopoly on incursions, pilots to quit incursions or quit the game. What we do want is for the ISN vitriol circlejerks, wardeccing, logi jamming in the name of TVP to stop. It will never work and can only backfire.
ISN's focus has always been to be the best at what we do. We've proven to ourselves and others that we are the best. SAQD and other communities have carbon copied our fittings and our fleet compositions, but they can't copy experience, their skills to 5, and many of them will also have to work a bit longer to upgrade their clones to be more expensive than their shiniest ships/fit. What we now have to work on is bettering our public relations skills and reducing our hubris. I am one of the worst offenders, posting demotivational memes, trolling, etc. However if I can improve upon that in myself, I can only be a better person and pilot for it.
We want everyone to run incursions and have a great time making ISK, and for incursions to stay. This is why Herr Ronin is stepping down from ISN management and running for CSM, so that not only all incursion communities, but also all of hisec will have more consideration in those meetings. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
38
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Posted - 2012.09.10 02:42:00 -
[416] - Quote
Had to type this out three times, kept changing my mind and deleting it.
I feel a little bad every time we win a contest; I know the other fleet is full of guys just like me. Correction GÇÿguys and galsGÇÖ that like to look at their wallet at the end of the night, they like to see that they have succeeded in making a positive difference in their conquest of EVE. If I think about it enough I get sad at first, then angry. TVP or for that matter any other community that runs Incursions should find a type of site that they a good at and run them. NO you are not good at HQGÇÖs and MOMGÇÖs you just throw enough bodies at it that it dies, and enough of those bodies survive to make it almost profitable.
I am sure they think we travel around the system looking for contests, We donGÇÖt, I am sure they think we find it funny that we made it all and they made nothing, We donGÇÖt. I am sure they think a lot of thing, Most of them wrong.
My advice, VG systems are relatively abandoned during ISN peak times, Take 9 or 11 of your friends to the closest VG system. Start with the NMCGÇÖs as they are the easiest VG sites bring 3 logistics till you get the hang of it then you can trim down to 2 logistics. Do one wave at a time and make sure your ready for the next wave when you pop the last ship in a spawn. Do these till your eyes bleed then do them some more. You will get an occasional contest. You will lose a few, but more importantly, eventually, you will not lose.
We know, because we did this, the average ISN pilot has earned well over 20 billion ISK running VG sites. They have lost time and contests, they have given up on other ventures and training time, to do this GÇÿone thingGÇÖ and to do it perfectly. They have earned their stripes.
These same pilots moved to assaults during the Nerf. When the other communities grouped up and moved to HQGÇÖs exclusively. In assaults we learned how to maximize logistics and minimize risk, at the same time we trained the pilots to follow the kill orders and make the most of every shot, and most of all we perfected the fits to allow the needed buffer without sacrificing the purpose of a gun boat GÇÿThe GunsGÇÖ. It should be noted that all of us started with a T2 fit, T1 rigged, Pirate Faction BS, the rest comes from hard work and reinvesting.
Our pilots reinvest in there Toon as well; very few ISN Toons will be found without a full set of +6% damage implants, many with 6% engineering implants as well, to allow the super tight ship fits to work. An ISN clone can easily outstrip most EVE ships in cost.
All these sacrifices have earned them the right to take the HQ sites by storm, We donGÇÖt want to own Incursions, We donGÇÖt want to kill any communities, we want to do all sites, in all systems, perfectly, as a team. If we land on the same site as another fleet we are not stalking, the answer is simple; it was the closest site to the last one we finished.
I am sorry you lost the contest, and I am truly sorry that your FC or community leader didnGÇÖt properly prepare you, or themselves for these type of sites. I canGÇÖt repay the ISK you lost in any meaningful way. But I can give this advice; start from the beginning, GÇÿVGGÇÖsGÇÖ there is unlimited ISK available here, all you need, some good friends, and a little time.
A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

NGResonance
1 Percent
0
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:27:00 -
[417] - Quote
When you are the best at something, there is always someone to try and drag you down
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Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
2
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Posted - 2012.09.11 04:03:00 -
[418] - Quote
After contemplating the ISN Primary meeting of Sep 9, I have decided to voluntarily remove my post that encouraged others to attack ISN. I am also ceasing all hostilities in all of their forms against ISN.
In response to some of the issues addressed at the meeting:
1) ISN leadership seems to have realized that contesting TVP off the field at every opportunity would lead to TVP's destruction, regardless of the intent, and that TVP's destruction may be a bad idea. I applaud ISN's leadership for seeing that this would be bad for business, barring a plan to replace TVP, which I will address later.
2) Random players talking smack about ISN in TVP's channel is not a good enough reason to escalate the problem further by griefing TVP in general. It's Eve. People will always talk smack. It's a public channel. The grownups are already over it, and if you aren't over it, you need to grow up.
3) Some ISN pilots feel that ISN should keep pressure on TVP until TVP's leadership resigns. The rationalization here is that it will "be doing TVP a favor". Frankly, that's a load of crap, for the following reasons. First of all, if your goal is to "go after" someone, you shouldn't waste ISN's time and reputation to satisfy your own desire for vendetta. You mad bro? Then go after them personally. But don't drag me along with you. I am in ISN to make ISK, not to fight your battles for you. Also, it's a case of the devil you know vs the one you don't. You may not like TVP's leadership now, but, anytime you create a vacuum, it will be filled by an unknown quantity. Food for thought.
4) Some pilots feel that the attacks on TVP should continue until it is destroyed because "most TVP pilots can't PVP". Well, whether TVP has enough PVP pilots to be a threat is certainly debatable, but consider the following: How much training does it take to pull the trigger on a catalyst to pop a pod? Not much. Also, how much ISK do TVP pilots have in their wallets? Eventually a critical mass will be reached where individual TVP pilots are pissed off enough to spend the ISK necessary to hire people who are very versed at the ways and means of ganking ... well... anything, given enough ISK. One thing all long-term incursion runners have is ISK. Motivate them enough to spend it and you will suffer casualties. Props to ISN leadership for slowing down this ball before it reaches full speed and things get more serious than a few wardecs and failed blackbird attacks. (Speaking of which, seen any mercs around lately in incursions? I have. 'Sup Noir.)
5) "Let's start our OWN TVP!" Yeah, great idea. Destroy something that is already in place and working and poses no threat, and expend the time and resources needed to put something else up to replace it. So, everyone who wants to volunteer to FC this new ISNoob community and keep fleets running 23/7, raise your hand. C'mon, no one wants to spend all their time teaching people how to set up their overviews to see tags? How to count from 0 to 9 and back to 1 again? Basic fleet window mechanics? How to broadcast? But it's so much fun! Oh wait, you can't really be doing that while running sites at light speed and making ISK, can you. I think this was one of those, "What a great idea as long as I don't have to do it" ideas. The alternative? Simply allowing TVP to run HQs unmolested which ultimately trains new pilots who will likely be future ISN pilots after a few hundred hours of bumbling around. You tell me. Which is easier? Which profits ISN more? Again, it appears ISN leadership can see the obvious choice here, and again I applaud them for not caving to the temptation to break something just because they can.
What I took away from the meeting is that ISN realizes that contesting TVP out of system on a regular basis will destroy TVP and that this will be a bad thing for ISN and the incursion community as a whole. They realize that harmony is better for business than war, despite the irrational blood-thirst of some members. Bravo.
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Mexan Caderu
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.09.11 12:46:00 -
[419] - Quote
I'm waiting to see how HS incursions will do 6 months from now. With TVP slowly dieing, current ISN management &FC's getting burned out, armor already on the ropes about to collapse...
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Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
2
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Posted - 2012.09.11 14:25:00 -
[420] - Quote
I realized that one other important point was brought up at the meeting that I completely forgot to cover.
As kranyoldlady pointed out, many incursion pilots have friends in both ISN and TVP. Many pilots fly with both ISN and TVP, especially for HQs, and even moreso for MOM fleets.
As another speaker pointed out, this should be about fun because it is a video game, but it is also about friends, and that brings up the subject of loyalty. A division between those pilots who are loyal to ISN and those who are loyal to TVP is unhealthy because it splits up friendships that cross these boundaries. In some cases, this division causes conflict within individuals themselves who wish to be loyal to both ISN and TVP... in other words, to all of their friends in both groups.
On a personal level, that is where I am. I do not wish to be made to choose between the good people in ISN who are devoted to excellence, and the good people in TVP who are devoted to acceptance, and I should not have to.
A tremendous amount of progress has been made in the past few days toward going back to having fun with friends and making ISK and that is a good thing. There are few more details to be hashed out, but we are almost there. Ironically, the only vexing question left is ... what about the MOM? This is where all hell broke loose in the first place, with one side being a bit arrogant about making the rules, the other side proving a point which was taken as a threat to the status quo, responses made to that threat, etc. etc. In the end, it is best for everyone if the MOM is done as late as possible because no one likes to jump half-way across the universe any more than absolutely necessary. Can we all agree that moving more often than we need to is bothersome and stupid? I hope so, as it is blatantly obvious.
I would urge ISN to address this issue not only on an internal level, but also to reach out to the rest of the community with a plan that is both "fair" on some level and fun. Perhaps we could run the MOM on a rotation basis, IE every third MOM belongs to ISN, TVP, and TDF (the only three communities capable of fielding a fleet). This would mirror the agreements that were in place and working between TVP and TDF before ISN was capable of forming a large enough fleet to do a MOM. However, this is only one possible way to resolve this. Perhaps it could be a free-for-all of sorts, with everyone attempting to form fleets that contest for the MOM with only the TIME being set in stone. In other words, all communities could agree to not take the gate before a specified time, and all else is fair game. Pilots could join whatever fleet they wished and we could all have fun in a massive contest. As for the loot, well, ninjas will continue to be a problem without an easy solution.
I am just throwing ideas out here. It is up to the leaders of the communities to hash out the details. But again I would urge these leaders to PLEASE not make incursion pilots do any more jumping than is necessary because it is BORING and we could be making ISK instead of jumping gates. It also discourages pilots from bringing more than one ship which makes things less fun and less efficient for everyone. It encourages pilots to skip incursions entirely because they don't want to do 31 jumps only to have to do them yet again tomorrow which means less pilots Xing up which means more time spent forming and less time running. So again, please, try to work this out.
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goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
44
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Posted - 2012.09.11 16:21:00 -
[421] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:I realized that one other important point was brought up at the meeting that I completely forgot to cover, and another point which was not addressed at the meeting.
Yada Yada Yada
and more Yada yada yada
and then a litlle more Yada yada yada
.
I Agree with many or your conclusions,
I might even have found common ground and been inclined to help communicate your desires.
Unfortunately your previous post, your war decs, your trolling, and your persistent use of an Alt to further an agenda, makes me doubt if you are even an incursion runner, 3 to 1 odds, youGÇÖre a troll and spend all your time in a WH bored out of your mind looking to get a rise out of anything you can.
Man up and do something.
A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

Gordwin Sendare
Sonic Intoxication Flappy Chickens With Teeth
0
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:22:00 -
[422] - Quote
To be honest, I don't give a flying badger what TVP says ISN does or doesn't do. They run sites. We run sites. ISN wins most of the sites. Why would TVP members then like ISN? Calling ISN elitist is just the immediate reaction to not being able to field the same hardware. If they had the same hardware standards they'd just call us griefers for the same act.
SO MUCH BUTTHURT X_X
If you don't like being farmed then up your game, or move elsewhere. Whining accomplishies nothing. |

Kadeyoo
BS And UNICORNS Inc Black Pearl Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:38:00 -
[423] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Perhaps it could be a free-for-all of sorts, with everyone attempting to form fleets that contest for the MOM with only the TIME being set in stone. In other words, all communities could agree to not take the gate before a specified time, and all else is fair game. Pilots could join whatever fleet they wished and we could all have fun in a massive contest. Of course this means ISN fleets will almost certainly "win" the MOM contest every time because they have the shiny ships, T2/faction ammo, more contest experience, more player/character skills, etc. So this solution is a bit unfair in a way, but, speaking for myself I really do not CARE who "wins" the MOM as long as it goes down as late as possible. This would also be an opportunity for ISN to demonstrate to the other incursion pilots what ISN is all about....winning fleets.... and encourages pilots to aspire to the ISN level. This was also brought up in the meeting and it is a valid point. I would rather ISN demonstrate its superiority during the MOM sites as opposed to rolling in randomly to contest TVP HQ fleets which will only cause resentment toward ISN. If ISN wanted to really show their stuff, they could even give the competing fleet(s) a head start, delaying as long as they dare before taking the gate. What would demonstrate their DPS superiority more than allowing for a handicap? It would also make it a challenge and sporting instead of a predictable slaughter, much like a golf handicap.
Wouldn't be unfair a bit. Also this *is* how we're doing it at the moment. Whether TDF and TVP have an agreement between each other, that's up to them. Though actively giving them a handicap seems arbitrary, and I don't see a possible reason for this.
You said "demonstrating DPS superiority". As it has been mentioned, by many ISN pilots - while we do agree that we might have started doing that to TVP sort of (by actively scouting and seeking those contests we were sure we would win), and *maybe* it was justified to an extent at the time ....
.... but we are done with it. All that remains is real contests - which is fighting for the isk (including the mom loot).
Any "handicapping" or talking about "fairness" is just nonsensical - especially in the sense that the only meaningful difference from the kundalini manifest from other sites is the mothership loot. Coincidentally, it's also the very same thing, that the pilots in TVP/TDF/Others don't get to see anyway. If it's just about the isk from that site, there's no need to do that then. If you knew there was a stronger fleet around, that would actively do this, and you'd have no chance of contesting it - then you might as well farm isk in regular sites instead in the meantime. This is what ISN for example has been doing for a long time (maybe less of a "chance", but more of a lack of interest back then) - but this has changed now.
It still makes no real difference to non-ISN pilots in the end, as they can make the same if not more isk either way, and they don't get to see loot anyway - and for any existing replacement funds - questions about the actual existence completely aside - they can be filled with direct donations anyway. Or you can charity auction pieces of Tritanium at horrendous prices to keep filling that "fund" of yours after each incursion dies.
-- Weasel Juice on an alt. Didn't realize I was logged on to it. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:26:00 -
[424] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:I realized that one other important point was brought up at the meeting that I completely forgot to cover, and another point which was not addressed at the meeting.
Yada Yada Yada
and more Yada yada yada
and then a litlle more Yada yada yada
. I Agree with many or your conclusions, I might even have found common ground and been inclined to help communicate your desires. Unfortunately your previous post, your war decs, your trolling, and your persistent use of an Alt to further an agenda, makes me doubt if you are even an incursion runner, 3 to 1 odds, youGÇÖre a troll and spend all your time in a WH bored out of your mind looking to get a rise out of anything you can. Man up and do something.
How about a friendly wager then? I will take your bet, and you're gonna regret, cause I'm.... oh never mind. But seriously, 3 to 1 odds that I'm "not even an incursion runner?" It's a bet. Let's make the wager....3 billion ISK. If I am not an incursion runner, I will pay you 3 billion ISK. If I am, you will pay me 9 billion ISK. We'll deposit our funds with Chribba as the third party ISK holder and judge. I will submit my main's API to Chribba who will keep it confidential, check it, decide if I run incursions at all, and pay the winner.
So, man up and bet? |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:01:00 -
[425] - Quote
Kadeyoo wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Perhaps it could be a free-for-all of sorts, with everyone attempting to form fleets that contest for the MOM with only the TIME being set in stone. In other words, all communities could agree to not take the gate before a specified time, and all else is fair game. Pilots could join whatever fleet they wished and we could all have fun in a massive contest. Of course this means ISN fleets will almost certainly "win" the MOM contest every time because they have the shiny ships, T2/faction ammo, more contest experience, more player/character skills, etc. So this solution is a bit unfair in a way, but, speaking for myself I really do not CARE who "wins" the MOM as long as it goes down as late as possible. This would also be an opportunity for ISN to demonstrate to the other incursion pilots what ISN is all about....winning fleets.... and encourages pilots to aspire to the ISN level. This was also brought up in the meeting and it is a valid point. I would rather ISN demonstrate its superiority during the MOM sites as opposed to rolling in randomly to contest TVP HQ fleets which will only cause resentment toward ISN. If ISN wanted to really show their stuff, they could even give the competing fleet(s) a head start, delaying as long as they dare before taking the gate. What would demonstrate their DPS superiority more than allowing for a handicap? It would also make it a challenge and sporting instead of a predictable slaughter, much like a golf handicap. Wouldn't be unfair a bit. Also this *is* how we're doing it at the moment. Whether TDF and TVP have an agreement between each other, that's up to them. Though actively giving them a handicap seems arbitrary, and I don't see a possible reason for this. You said "demonstrating DPS superiority". As it has been mentioned, by many ISN pilots - while we do agree that we might have started doing that to TVP sort of (by actively scouting and seeking those contests we were sure we would win), and *maybe* it was justified to an extent at the time .... .... but we are done with it. All that remains is real contests - which is fighting for the isk (including the mom loot). Any "handicapping" or talking about "fairness" is just nonsensical - especially in the sense that the only meaningful difference from the kundalini manifest from other sites is the mothership loot. Coincidentally, it's also the very same thing, that the pilots in TVP/TDF/Others don't get to see anyway. If it's just about the isk from that site, there's no need to do that then. If you knew there was a stronger fleet around, that would actively do this, and you'd have no chance of contesting it - then you might as well farm isk in regular sites instead in the meantime. This is what ISN for example has been doing for a long time (maybe for less of a "chance" to contest, but more for a lack of interest back then) - but this has changed now. It still makes no real difference to non-ISN pilots in the end, as they can make the same if not more isk either way, and they don't get to see loot anyway - and for any existing replacement funds - questions about the actual existence completely aside - they can be filled with direct donations anyway. Or you can charity auction pieces of Tritanium at horrendous prices to keep filling that "fund" of yours after each incursion dies. -- Weasel Juice on an alt. Didn't realize I was logged on to it.
As was mentioned in the meeting, giving non-ISN pilots a demonstration of ISN's might could give them something to aspire to and show them that it can be done better and faster than TVP. I am pretty sure it was one of the officers that agreed with this sentiment along with several others. It is not surprising that a known troll would disagree I suppose. What I am surprised at is that ISN's leadership allows you to speak for ISN when I don't see Weasel Juice or any of your other alts on the MOTD as leadership or officer.... *shrug*
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Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:22:00 -
[426] - Quote
Gordwin Sendare wrote:To be honest, I don't give a flying badger what TVP says ISN does or doesn't do. They run sites. We run sites. ISN wins most of the sites. Why would TVP members then like ISN? Calling ISN elitist is just the immediate reaction to not being able to field the same hardware. If they had the same hardware standards they'd just call us griefers for the same act.
SO MUCH BUTTHURT X_X
If you don't like being farmed then up your game, or move elsewhere. Whining accomplishies nothing.
Actually, most TVP pilots who dislike ISN do so because of things like
THIS
and
THIS
...being spammed in incursion local, and then complaining about the "propaganda" put out by TVP leadership. In general most people dislike hypocrites. Also, as Weasel Juice said, because for a while you were "actively scouting and seeking those contests we were sure we would win" in HQs, the net effect of which was to drive TVP from HQs altogether. If you need to oversimplify the issues and blame it all on the fact that you fly better ships so you can feel good about yourself, that's fine too I guess. |

Yeyra
Atlantean Defense Fleet Corrosive.
8
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:26:00 -
[427] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:
So, man up and bet?
The one who hides behind an alt says "Man up!". 
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Actually, most TVP pilots who dislike ISN do so because of things like THISand THIS
How can you forget to post the best ones? This and this!
Quote:...being spammed in incursion local, and then complaining about the "propaganda" put out by TVP leadership.
There is a difference between mocking and spreading lies. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:39:00 -
[428] - Quote
Yeyra wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:
So, man up and bet?
The one who hides behind an alt says "Man up!".  Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Actually, most TVP pilots who dislike ISN do so because of things like THISand THIS How can you forget to post the best ones? This and this! Quote:...being spammed in incursion local, and then complaining about the "propaganda" put out by TVP leadership. There is a difference between mocking and spreading lies.
Yes there is. I have posted links to the mockery and propaganda spread by ISN. Can you provide us all links to the "lies" spread by TVP? Let's air out all of the laundry. However don't forget there is also a difference between "lies" and misunderstanding or opinions. Proof or GTFO as they say.
As for the use of alts, that has been covered already, so I will just quote previous posts. Please try to keep up with the conversation if you are going to participate:
"On a personal level, that is where I am. I do not wish to be made to choose between the good people in ISN who are devoted to excellence, and the good people in TVP who are devoted to acceptance, and I should not have to. This is why people are posting with alts. No one wants to be seen as taking a side and be excluded from the other side, because we have friends on both sides. No one wants to burn bridges, and they shouldn't be forced to." |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
45
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:48:00 -
[429] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:goldiiee wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:I realized that one other important point was brought up at the meeting that I completely forgot to cover, and another point which was not addressed at the meeting.
Yada Yada Yada
and more Yada yada yada
and then a litlle more Yada yada yada
. I Agree with many or your conclusions,    @ mocking what I said by reducing it to "yada yada yada" and then agreeing with most of it in the next line. Funny stuff! Not sure you quite grasp the whole concept of mockery. goldiiee wrote: Unfortunately your previous post, your war decs, your trolling, and your persistent use of an Alt to further an agenda, makes me doubt if you are even an incursion runner, 3 to 1 odds, youGÇÖre a troll and spend all your time in a WH bored out of your mind looking to get a rise out of anything you can.
Man up and do something.
How about a friendly wager then? I will take your bet, and you're gonna regret, cause I'm.... oh never mind. But seriously, 3 to 1 odds that I'm "not even an incursion runner?" It's a bet. Let's make the wager....3 billion ISK. If I am not an incursion runner, I will pay you 3 billion ISK. If I am, you will pay me 9 billion ISK. We'll deposit our funds with Chribba as the third party ISK holder and judge. I will submit my main's API to Chribba who will keep it confidential, check it, decide if I run incursions at all, and pay the winner. So, man up and bet?
I don't bet on anything, Gambling is a waste of money. Know quanities and absolutes, make me happy. But if you need isk X up, get in a fleet and earn it.
And I wasn't mocking, I was getting rid of all the text that I am sure everyone had read already.
I reviewed as many of your post as I could stand, you go from one extreeme to another, so much that I can only assume medication is involved. Not judging, just saying you scream for so many things I have forgotten what you wanted in the first place.
You hate ISN: your first post called for all pilots to declare war and grief ISN managment/officers/members. The next post I find you want to influence the views of ISN in our members meeting. Then we get a useless post of music lyrics. Upon hearing the ISN meeting you remove your first post and seem to agree with the general direction of the community. But low an behold less than a day later you have flipped back to HATE ISN. Now it seems you want to make a wager on the validity of your existence. You should probally have a convo with Descartes. Interestingly all your posts are in ISN's Forum so you really don't talk to anyone but ISN about the fact that ISN bothers you.
Ok, Really if your on drugs stop. If your not on drugs seek professional help and get some.
A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
45
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:56:00 -
[430] - Quote
And It should be noted that ISN has never booted banned or in any way excluded an Incursion runner for affiliation. The only thing we required was t2 guns and a pirate faction BS. So your fears of bieng outed by ISN if your true Identity was know are unfounded on our end. A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |
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Yeyra
Atlantean Defense Fleet Corrosive.
8
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:56:00 -
[431] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote: Yes there is. I have posted links to the mockery and propaganda spread by ISN. Can you provide us all links to the "lies" spread by TVP? Let's air out all of the laundry. However don't forget there is also a difference between "lies" and misunderstanding or opinions. Proof or GTFO as they say.
I can not. Because almost everything happened either in the chat channels or in Teamspeak. I never bothered to save chat logs and on top of that I'm banned from TVP. Well, I can post one minor misinformation, but that's it.
Danibunkins evemail in TVP News wrote:TVP has faced drama, contention, outright attacks, and bullying in the past. You're still standing. When ISN wants to take a site. Let them have it. Yes, your isk will hurt a bit, move on to the next site. Bullies are bullies. In high sec, you just ignore them. Move on to the next site, and do what you do best. Enjoy yourselves, regardless of what is going on. If you were in nullsec, I'd say burn them to the ground, chase them down and then do it again. But high sec is a different animal. Ignore them, and soon enough, they will be bored, realize their "fight" isn't getting them attention, and they'll go on to bullying someone else.
Yes, this is not a lie, but misinformation. We didn't start the "fight". TVP managment did by popping every MOM as soon as the next High Sec Incursion spawned. The mockery and HQ contests were just reactions to TVP managment actions.
Quote:"On a personal level, that is where I am. I do not wish to be made to choose between the good people in ISN who are devoted to excellence, and the good people in TVP who are devoted to acceptance, and I should not have to. This is why people are posting with alts. No one wants to be seen as taking a side and be excluded from the other side, because we have friends on both sides. No one wants to burn bridges, and they shouldn't be forced to."
Don't make me laugh. This is a very poor excuse. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:06:00 -
[432] - Quote
goldiiee wrote: I don't bet on anything, Gambling is a waste of money. Know quanities and absolutes, make me happy. But if you need isk X up, get in a fleet and earn it.
If you don't want to place a wager, and are not a gambling man, then might I suggest you do not give odds and issue challenges.
Quote: You hate ISN: your first post called for all pilots to declare war and grief ISN managment/officers/members.
The next post I find you want to influence the views of ISN in our members meeting.
Then we get a useless post of music lyrics.
I never called for anyone to grief anyone, nor have I ever stated I hate ISN, because I do not.
I suggested means of fighting back against ISN's attempt to destroy a community I care about. The next post was requested by one of your officers. My input was asked for and given.
The lyrics post was originally mocking ISN. The original text was quoted several times in replies if you need to go back and see what it originally said. I removed it as a courtesy, not due to medication nor an attempt to confuse you. I effectively removed the mockery as a response to the good faith actions of your community.
Quote: Upon hearing the ISN meeting you remove your first post and seem to agree with the general direction of the community. But low an behold less than a day later you have flipped back to HATE ISN.
Again, you seem confused. Where exactly have I posted that I hate ISN or implied that I do? This is where quoting actual words instead of erasing them and replacing them with nonsense come in handy...so that your audience can tell WTF you are talking about. All of my posts since the meeting have been either constructive commentary given in a genuine attempt to help resolve issues between ISN and the rest of the incursion communities or replies to ISN members who have commented on my input. I realize that you may be angry at me for calling you on your completely random and unjustified accusation that I "do not run incursions at all", but as a leader you may want to consider if what you are doing....making blind accusations and throwing personal insults...is helping your hurting your community's image.
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Yeyra
Atlantean Defense Fleet Corrosive.
8
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:14:00 -
[433] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:FAIR WARNINGISN has been griefing the incursion community for a few months now. After waiting well over a year for incursion pilots to realize that their way is the "best way" to play Eve to no avail, they have begun a desperate "war" to force their way of running incursions on the incursion community and to exclude anyone not willing to do it their way. They have joined fleets run by other incursion groups with logi and intentionally let ships die, then posted videos of this to promote themselves. They have pre-loaded HQ sites with the intent of causing a hazard for other groups. They have waged a propoganda war, spreading lies and slandering some very good pilots in the incursion community. They have entered into negotiations in bad faith, never intending on coming to a mutally beneficial agreement in an attempt to dishearten community leaders. I have witnessed all of these things and waited patiently for them to grow bored, but alas they are easily amused. ISN's goal is simply to control all of incursions and to force pilots to adhere to their strict (shiny/expensive) fitting guidelines. This of course excludes most newer pilots. While this is well within the Eve mentality of elitism, it is (imho) bad for the community and the game as a whole. For a very accurate description of ISN's leadership, see this post.I am tired of waiting for someone to organize a resistance to this and so I have taken action on my own. I have a logi pilot (or 2) who is embedded within the ISN community. This pilot will fly for hours without incident and wait for a key member of ISN to be primaried at a particularly nasty time and then reps will be withheld (or just a bit "slow") with the goal of seeing that ship destroyed. This pilot has been successful already and will succeed again. I do not enjoy this style of play, but feel it is the most effective way to fight back against ISN's strategy, and sometimes fire must be fought with fire. If you routinely fly with ISN, you are in danger of losing your ship because of this. While I will try to target ISN directors, officers, and those highly active on the griefing front, this is far from an exact science, and war being war, unintended casualties are unavoidable. Are you an incursion pilot that is fed up with ISN's griefing, and want to help fight against their fascist agenda, there are quite a few things you can do:1 - Infiltration and Sabotage as logistics. The most effective method is to infiltrate an ISN fleet with logistics and join me in sabotaging ISN's fleets by withholding or simply being a bit slow on shield repairs/capacitor requests. If you have already flown in ISN with logistics, and are tired of their new "direction", you are in a unique position to do something about it. 2 - Infiltration and Sabotage as DPS. Only fly DPS? Join an ISN fleet and subtly sabotage their efforts to run sites. Disconnecting, "forgetting" to get ammo, trolling comms, getting hung up on gates, shooting the wrong tags, "forgetting" to assign drones properly, asking for AFK time, etc. can all be done subtly enough to not raise suspicion while being very frustrating to their FCs. 3 - Wardecs. Got an anonymous alt and tons of incursion ISK you're not doing anything with? Get corporate management to 1 in a few minutes, start a corp, and place a wardec on an ISN griefer. This can cost as little as 50 mil. ISK. Look for targets that have been in a corporation with more than a few members for a good amount of time. This forces them to either drop a corp they enjoy being a member of, or spreading war aggression among ISN logis when they run sites. Get the alt in system when you see the decced ISN member so they must continually be on the lookout. If it is an alt with some PVP skills, you may be able to catch a logi with aggro at a gate or station after completing a site. 4 - Gank their OGB. You can hire mercs for this or scan their booster down, find a friend, and do the deed yourselves with only a couple of tier 3 BCs. Don't forget to bring a low-skill thrasher too and get their pod. 5 - Hunt their pods. A low-skill neutral alt in a thrasher or catalyst outside of the station ISN is staging from can often times find a juicy ISN pod undocking and pop it before they (or CONCORD) can react. 6 - Recruit from ISN Secondary. Put one toon in their channel, and recruit with a second toon. When you see someone new, be sure to let them know about your favorite incursion channel and tell them about what ISN has been doing. Are they having trouble getting into an ISN fleet because it is too restrictive or simply not running? I bet you know a place where they can find a fleet. These are just a few ways you can help in the effort to fight back against ISN's griefing. I am sure that you can think of other ways become involved in this fight and take an active role in removing the cancerous mass that ISN's leadership has become. My goal is the harmonious cooperation of all incursion groups that we had before, with a fun sense of competition. But until ISN's leadership understands that cooperation is the only way to be successful, they will continue to grief and harass all other incursion groups. YOU are capable of causing change and influencing this struggle. Any pilots wishing to coordinate efforts or donate resources that will be used against ISN are welcome to contact this character via Evemail. Any useful intel, known ISN officer alts, fleet chat logs, FRAPS of counter-ISN ops, are also very welcome. All submissions will remain completely anonymous unless otherwise specified. Videos and screen shots will be scrubbed of all identifying information before release.
Yeah, you never suggested to grief ISN. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
45
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:16:00 -
[434] - Quote
I just dont care anymore. I will do my best to reserve my comments for old members and toons with questions. A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 20:24:00 -
[435] - Quote
Yeyra wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote: Yes there is. I have posted links to the mockery and propaganda spread by ISN. Can you provide us all links to the "lies" spread by TVP? Let's air out all of the laundry. However don't forget there is also a difference between "lies" and misunderstanding or opinions. Proof or GTFO as they say.
I can not. Because almost everything happened either in the chat channels or in Teamspeak. I never bothered to save chat logs and on top of that I'm banned from TVP. Well, I can post one minor misinformation, but that's it. Danibunkins evemail in TVP News wrote:TVP has faced drama, contention, outright attacks, and bullying in the past. You're still standing. When ISN wants to take a site. Let them have it. Yes, your isk will hurt a bit, move on to the next site. Bullies are bullies. In high sec, you just ignore them. Move on to the next site, and do what you do best. Enjoy yourselves, regardless of what is going on. If you were in nullsec, I'd say burn them to the ground, chase them down and then do it again. But high sec is a different animal. Ignore them, and soon enough, they will be bored, realize their "fight" isn't getting them attention, and they'll go on to bullying someone else. Yes, this is not a lie, but misinformation. We didn't start the "fight". TVP managment did by popping every MOM as soon as the next High Sec Incursion spawned. The mockery and HQ contests were just reactions to TVP managment actions.
Wow, that's pretty weak. So basically you have gone from "Sure we griefed you endlessly with mocking propoganda but that's nothing compared to the LIES TVP told!!!" to "well it wasn't lies, but misinformation" to "they started it" as justification. So I suppose ISN popping the mom early three times in a row, forcing hundreds of pilots to waste their time moving to new incursions, wasn't "looking for a fight" in your opinion? And everything ISN did afterwards... Herr Ronin preloading TCRCs*, a long list of mocking GIFs mocking not just TVP's leadership but TVP pilots as well, video propaganda, contesting TVP to the point that it had to break up their fleets... is justified because you were butthurt over that single line in a TVP mailing on top of anger expressed by these pilots that wasn't even worth saving a log of. Just....wow. I really don't know what to say to that.
* As I don't like to post baseless accusations, log attached below, names removed to comply with forum rules:
n++[ 2012.09.03 18:01:10 ] ISN Leader > Yes see me loading!! n++[ 2012.09.03 18:01:14 ] ISN Leader > pre-loading... n++[ 2012.09.03 18:02:39 ] Player > give my ronin a lick n++[ 2012.09.03 18:02:53 ] ISN Leader > Rawr! n++[ 2012.09.03 18:05:59 ] Player > MeOw! n++[ 2012.09.03 18:07:52 ] ISN Leader > o/ n++[ 2012.09.03 18:08:40 ] ISN Leader > Have fun lad's, Take care. n++[ 2012.09.03 18:08:42 ] Player > oh no!!!!! preloads!!!!!! n++[ 2012.09.03 18:08:47 ] Player > oh well,,,,, n++[ 2012.09.03 18:09:24 ] Player > stewpid gweefers.... Im taking my baw and going home n++[ 2012.09.03 18:09:31 ] ISN Leader > Spell correctly. n++[ 2012.09.03 18:09:37 ] ISN Leader > Then try once again. n++[ 2012.09.03 18:10:11 ] ISN Leader > and "stewpid" ? I love Irish stew. n++[ 2012.09.03 18:10:51 ] Player > lvl 3 troll fail.... please try again n++[ 2012.09.03 18:11:04 ] Player > irish stew is amazing,,,,,,,, n++[ 2012.09.03 18:13:17 ] ISN Leader > Ta Ta for now my sweety's n++[ 2012.09.03 18:13:24 ] ISN Leader > o/
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Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 20:32:00 -
[436] - Quote
Yeyra wrote:
Yes, you never suggested to grief ISN.
To quote Eve's EULA:
"(Griefing) should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two (or more) players, such as corporation wars."
As I believe we all agree that TVP and ISN have/had a "standard conflict" in Eve terms, fighting back is not griefing. If you disagree, then please petition CCP to have me banned for griefing as I engaged in many of the activities I suggested in my post. Just as contesting is not griefing, neither is ganking ships, pods, wardecs, infiltration and sabotage, or recruitment. You cannot have it both ways and define something as griefing only when it is done to YOU. Soz, but it doesn't work that way. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 20:53:00 -
[437] - Quote
So, are we done with all of the name calling, finger pointing and butthurt, or shall we continue to drag the details of this stupid little drama out into public view? Because as you can see, I can do this all night boys.
When you are ready to move on and get back to making ISK and flying in fun fleets instead of waving our respective epeens around in your recruitment forum, simply ignore me and move on. Yes, that is a challenge. The only posts I will put in this thread from this point on will be replies to posts directed at me. Your move. |

Yeyra
Atlantean Defense Fleet Corrosive.
8
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 21:00:00 -
[438] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote: Wow, that's pretty weak. So basically you have gone from "Sure we griefed you endlessly with mocking propoganda but that's nothing compared to the LIES TVP told!!!" to "well it wasn't lies, but misinformation" to "they started it" as justification.
Read my post again.
Quote:To quote Eve's EULA:
"(Griefing) should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two (or more) players, such as corporation wars."
As I believe we all agree that TVP and ISN have/had a "standard conflict" in Eve terms, fighting back is not griefing. If you disagree, then please petition CCP to have me banned for griefing as I engaged in many of the activities I suggested in my post. Just as contesting is not griefing, neither is ganking ships, pods, wardecs, infiltration and sabotage, or recruitment. You cannot have it both ways and define something as griefing only when it is done to YOU. Soz, but it doesn't work that way.
TVP vs ISN is by no means a "standard conflict". So... what you suggested is not griefing, but contesting is? Okay.
Quote:So, are we done with all of the name calling, finger pointing and butthurt, or shall we continue to drag the details of this stupid little drama out into public view? Because as you can see, I can do this all night boys.
If this is a stupid little drama, why did you bother to post in this thread and waste hundred of millions of ISK wardeccing ISN managment?
Quote:When you are ready to move on and get back to making ISK and flying in fun fleets instead of waving our respective epeens around in your recruitment forum, simply ignore me and move on. Yes, that is a challenge. The only posts I will put in this thread from this point on will be replies to posts directed at me. Your move.
We never stopped making ISK. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 21:08:00 -
[439] - Quote
Yeyra wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote: Wow, that's pretty weak. So basically you have gone from "Sure we griefed you endlessly with mocking propoganda but that's nothing compared to the LIES TVP told!!!" to "well it wasn't lies, but misinformation" to "they started it" as justification.
1. Read my post again. Quote:To quote Eve's EULA:
"(Griefing) should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two (or more) players, such as corporation wars."
As I believe we all agree that TVP and ISN have/had a "standard conflict" in Eve terms, fighting back is not griefing. If you disagree, then please petition CCP to have me banned for griefing as I engaged in many of the activities I suggested in my post. Just as contesting is not griefing, neither is ganking ships, pods, wardecs, infiltration and sabotage, or recruitment. You cannot have it both ways and define something as griefing only when it is done to YOU. Soz, but it doesn't work that way. 2. TVP vs ISN is by no means a "standard conflict". So... what you suggested is not griefing, but contesting is? Okay. Quote:So, are we done with all of the name calling, finger pointing and butthurt, or shall we continue to drag the details of this stupid little drama out into public view? Because as you can see, I can do this all night boys. 3. If this is a stupid little drama, why did you bother to post in this thread and waste hundred of millions of ISK wardeccing ISN managment? Quote:When you are ready to move on and get back to making ISK and flying in fun fleets instead of waving our respective epeens around in your recruitment forum, simply ignore me and move on. Yes, that is a challenge. The only posts I will put in this thread from this point on will be replies to posts directed at me. Your move. 4. We never stopped making ISK.
LOL, can't resist feeding the troll huh? Okay then....
1. Why? 2. How is it not a standard conflict? I never said contesting was griefing. As a matter of fact, I said, "Just as contesting is not griefing..." You quoted me saying that. *boggles* 3. I bothered to post in this thread at various times for various reasons. Be more specific. Why waste hundreds of millions of ISK wardeccing management? Many reasons: mainly because ISK is pixels, and I have lots of pixels, because I run incursions. Hundreds of millions of ISK is nothing. If I really cared, I'd have dropped a few bil to see their ships popped by mercs. 4. You never stopped making an ass of yourself either. Still doing a fine job of it actually. Aw, just kidding bro. You aren't s*****ing up ISN's recruitment thread at all, or making yourself or your community look silly by arguing with a troll on the internet. Never stop posting. <3 |

Yeyra
Atlantean Defense Fleet Corrosive.
9
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 21:23:00 -
[440] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:
LOL, can't resist feeding the troll huh? Okay then....
I can. But I don't want to right now.
Because you didn't read it carefully enough. Or didn't understand it.
Quote:2. How is it not a standard conflict? I never said contesting was griefing. As a matter of fact, I said, "Just as contesting is not griefing..."
What is your definition of a "standard conflict"?
Quote:3. I bothered to post in this thread at various times for various reasons. Be more specific. Why waste hundreds of million of ISK wardeccing management? Many reasons: a) ISK is pixels, and I have lots of pixels, because I run incursions. Hundreds of millions of ISK is nothing. If I really cared, I'd have dropped a few bil to see their ships popped by mercs.
Should have given me the ISK. I would have put it to better use, than just flushing it down the drain.
Quote:4. You never stopped making an ass of yourself either. Still doing a fine job of it actually. 
Thank you. I always strive to be the best. |
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Kodavor
Mine3
30
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 21:24:00 -
[441] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine is not a ISN pilot . Anything that is written by him is completely made up or gathered among the rumors of many mouths . For some odd reasons this person seems to be bored and chose this thread to easy it . Free bump is a free bump . Thank you .
Best regards Kodavor |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 21:27:00 -
[442] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaine is not a ISN pilot . Anything that is written by him is completely made up or gathered among the rumors of many mouths . For some odd reasons this person seems to be bored and chose this thread to ease his boredom . Free bump is a free bump . Thank you .
Best regards Kodavor
So, I made up the links I posted? Can you give an example of things I "gathered among the rumors of many mouths?"
You're completely welcome for the bumps. The doctors say they're not contagious.  |

Kodavor
Mine3
30
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 21:29:00 -
[443] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaineis not a ISN pilot and have never been in any ISN fleet . Anything that is written by him is completely made up or gathered among the rumors of many mouths . For some odd reasons this person seems to be bored and chose this thread to ease his boredom . Free bump is a free bump . Thank you .
Best regards Kodavor |

Yeyra
Atlantean Defense Fleet Corrosive.
9
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 21:29:00 -
[444] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:So, I made up the links I posted?
Read Kodavors post again and you'll be able to answer this question on your own. |

Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
3
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 21:41:00 -
[445] - Quote
Yeyra wrote: 1. Because you didn't read it carefully enough. Or didn't understand it.
2. What is your definition of a "standard conflict"?
3. Should have given me the ISK. I would have put it to better use, than just flushing it down the drain.
4. Thank you. I always strive to be the best.
1. Thank you for your opinion. Your post was quite clear though, and I believe my summary was fair. If it was not, please, make a point instead of a baseless conclusion.
2. What is your definition of a standard conflict? Two incursion communities slap-fighting over high-sec incursions is far from out of the ordinary for Eve in my experience. What makes it non-standard in your opinion?
3. As goldiiee said, if you need ISK, X up and make it yourself.
4. You're welcome. |

Kodavor
Mine3
30
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 21:48:00 -
[446] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Kodavor wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaineis not a ISN pilot and have never been in any ISN fleet . Anything that is written by him is completely made up or gathered among the rumors of many mouths . For some odd reasons this person seems to be bored and chose this thread to ease his boredom . Free bump is a free bump . Thank you .
Best regards Kodavor
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Kadobloc
State War Academy Caldari State
2
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 23:06:00 -
[447] - Quote
Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:Yeyra wrote: 1. Because you didn't read it carefully enough. Or didn't understand it.
2. What is your definition of a "standard conflict"?
3. Should have given me the ISK. I would have put it to better use, than just flushing it down the drain.
4. Thank you. I always strive to be the best.
1. Thank you for your opinion. Your post was quite clear though, and I believe my summary was fair. If it was not, please, make a point instead of a baseless conclusion. 2. What is your definition of a standard conflict? Two incursion communities slap-fighting over high-sec incursions is far from out of the ordinary for Eve in my experience. What makes it non-standard in your opinion? 3. As goldiiee said, if you need ISK, X up and make it yourself. 4. You're welcome.
1. No comment
2. standard conflict is warping to a site and bumping into another fleet.... Not following them around.
3. you need a certain type of ship brah
4. Ty
:) chuckles. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
46
|
Posted - 2012.09.11 23:17:00 -
[448] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Kodavor wrote:Kodavor wrote:Roxxo I'doCocaineis not a ISN pilot and have never been in any ISN fleet . Anything that is written by him is completely made up or gathered among the rumors of many mouths . For some odd reasons this person seems to be bored and chose this thread to ease his boredom . Free bump is a free bump . Thank you .
Best regards Kodavor
A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

Herr Ronin
The Syndemic
287
|
Posted - 2012.09.13 23:48:00 -
[449] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Noble Ranger Kodavor
ISN Does Mothership SItes? http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg
 | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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SoapyTits
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
18
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 00:13:00 -
[450] - Quote
Im just wondering, doesnt joining the ISN fleets make you wartargets for whinies all the time?
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Herr Ronin
The Syndemic
287
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Posted - 2012.09.14 00:14:00 -
[451] - Quote
SoapyTits wrote:Im just wondering, doesnt joining the ISN fleets make you wartargets for whinies all the time?
No. | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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SoapyTits
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.09.14 00:21:00 -
[452] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:SoapyTits wrote:Im just wondering, doesnt joining the ISN fleets make you wartargets for whinies all the time?
No.
Cause would love to see how it is in this community, once i get a vindi trained up^^ |

Herr Ronin
The Syndemic
287
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Posted - 2012.09.14 00:28:00 -
[453] - Quote
SoapyTits wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:SoapyTits wrote:Im just wondering, doesnt joining the ISN fleets make you wartargets for whinies all the time?
No. Cause would love to see how it is in this community, once i get a vindi trained up^^
Worst case, you will get banned from TVP for flying with ISN.
Nothing else will come of it, we look after our pilots/community. | Management Of ISN | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Scrwloose
A Lite in the Darkness
0
|
Posted - 2012.09.16 18:11:00 -
[454] - Quote
I might have to put down Dust for a bit and log in to check you guys out. Did I miss the link with suggested fittings somewhere? I'll dig around the thread a bit more, but I'm looking for a usable Proteus fit that won't break the bank (initially).
I already have the hull and subs for a "decent" fit, but I know it's pretty much fail as I usually lose- er...fly Tengus with another account.
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Herr Ronin
The Syndemic
289
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Posted - 2012.09.16 18:18:00 -
[455] - Quote
Scrwloose wrote:I might have to put down Dust for a bit and log in to check you guys out. Did I miss the link with suggested fittings somewhere? I'll dig around the thread a bit more, but I'm looking for a usable Proteus fit that won't break the bank (initially).
I already have the hull and subs for a "decent" fit, but I know it's pretty much fail as I usually lose- er...fly Tengus with another account.
Hey dude, currently ISN only use's Projectile Turret Ship's, i.e Machariels, Vindicators and Nightmares.
if you want a ship that does not break the bank, i would suggest that you buy a Loki.
Regards | Herr Ronin For CSM 8 | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Scrwloose
A Lite in the Darkness
0
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Posted - 2012.09.16 18:44:00 -
[456] - Quote
I had a feeling you'd say that. 
I'm finishing up the prereq's for med projectiles (which are preferred, arties or autocannons?) and finished maxing the last Minnie subsystem just over a week ago. I'm close to T2 med guns. Time to go shopping again.... 
What am I looking for on subsystems? Or is there an easy link to shoot me for suggested fittings in general? I'm new ot the rust and duct tape game!
....err.... i mean grr! grumble! no help here! buncha ****s. robble robble. 
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Kodavor
Mine3
35
|
Posted - 2012.09.16 20:38:00 -
[457] - Quote
720 Loki with max lows and 5 webs = a good VG Loki .
Add some tank in mids and you are ok for any other site . |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
52
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Posted - 2012.09.17 00:29:00 -
[458] - Quote
Scrwloose wrote:I had a feeling you'd say that.  I'm finishing up the prereq's for med projectiles (which are preferred, arties or autocannons?) and finished maxing the last Minnie subsystem just over a week ago. I'm close to T2 med guns. Time to go shopping again....  What am I looking for on subsystems? Or is there an easy link to shoot me for suggested fittings in general? I'm new ot the rust and duct tape game! ....err.... i mean grr! grumble! no help here! buncha ****s. robble robble. 
I am sure there are many ways to get 5 webs on a ship. This looks like a good start. with perfect skills and a perfect Off grid booster, (standard in ISN fleets) the resists on this work fine. the rigs are entirelly up to you I was just playing around and figured drone rigs for drone commander. A little buffer for the shield, and some lock speed for the targeting, But like I said I am sure something better could be made.
[Loki, VG Webber]
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers Loki Engineering - Supplemental Coolant Injector Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
5x 720mm Howitzer Artillery II (Quake M) Auto Targeting System II
5x Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Damage Control II 3x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Drone Control Range Augmentor II
10x Warrior II
A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Squirrel Horde Habitat Against Humanity
113
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Posted - 2012.09.17 14:22:00 -
[459] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Hey dude, currently ISN only use's Projectile Turret Ship's, i.e Machariels, Vindicators and Nightmares.
I think what you meant to say is that ISN uses ships with turrets, not missiles? Triple rep Myrms are like what you'd get if you strapped a beehive to Robocop. |

Herr Ronin
The Syndemic I Got Banned For That
289
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:00:00 -
[460] - Quote
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Hey dude, currently ISN only use's Projectile Turret Ship's, i.e Machariels, Vindicators and Nightmares. I think what you meant to say is that ISN uses ships with turrets, not missiles?
Thank you for pointing that out my Dear Grammar ****, you don't use 1400mm's on your Vindicator?
You TVP folk are just weird. | Herr Ronin For CSM 8 | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Squirrel Horde Habitat Against Humanity
114
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:30:00 -
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I'm no a grammar ****...it just looked like the guy assumed you literally meant projetiles. 
edit: Wait, I'm a TVP folk? Triple rep Myrms are like what you'd get if you strapped a beehive to Robocop. |

Herr Ronin
The Syndemic I Got Banned For That
289
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Posted - 2012.09.18 01:57:00 -
[462] - Quote
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:I'm no a grammar ****...it just looked like the guy assumed you literally meant projetiles.  edit: Wait, I'm a TVP folk?
I was being sarcastic, I forget that my typing comes across differently 
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MrWacko
Squirrel Horde Habitat Against Humanity
3
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:35:00 -
[463] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:I'm no a grammar ****...it just looked like the guy assumed you literally meant projetiles.  edit: Wait, I'm a TVP folk? I was being sarcastic, I forget that my typing comes across differently 
Awww, having difficulties? Want a cookie? [/sarcasm] |

Herr Ronin
The Syndemic I Got Banned For That
289
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Posted - 2012.09.18 08:44:00 -
[464] - Quote
MrWacko wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:I'm no a grammar ****...it just looked like the guy assumed you literally meant projetiles.  edit: Wait, I'm a TVP folk? I was being sarcastic, I forget that my typing comes across differently  Awww, having difficulties? Want a cookie? [/sarcasm]
Yes please, what sort? | Herr Ronin For CSM 8 | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Kodavor
Mine3
35
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Posted - 2012.09.18 16:11:00 -
[465] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:MrWacko wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:I'm no a grammar ****...it just looked like the guy assumed you literally meant projetiles.  edit: Wait, I'm a TVP folk? I was being sarcastic, I forget that my typing comes across differently  Awww, having difficulties? Want a cookie? [/sarcasm] Yes please, what sort?
I don;t care about sorts ! Just give me the kookies ! Alright ? |

Kaylee Rei
Ascendant Brokerage Bureau Anonymous
0
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Posted - 2012.09.18 19:15:00 -
[466] - Quote
Share it Maybe?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qTIGg3I5y8
Mystery Box
www.youtube.com/watch?v=shbgRyColvE
- KR |

Metellus Scipio
Smokin Aces.
0
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:06:00 -
[467] - Quote
I'm tired of running missions in npc null and want to get into incursions, what is a good machariel fit to generally get in fleets? I join the ISN mailing list and it says make your own :) .
I have done a few null sec incursions with my old allaince just to clear them out. Thanks for any help |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
52
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:06:00 -
[468] - Quote
Oh god havent laughed that hard in ages. Guess I need to tune into sesame street for some laugh therapy more often.
Thanks Kaylee .... you got cookie s,o share it maybe A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
52
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:11:00 -
[469] - Quote
Metellus Scipio wrote:I'm tired of running missions in npc null and want to get into incursions, what is a good machariel fit to generally get in fleets? I join the ISN mailing list and it says make your own :) .
I have done a few null sec incursions with my old allaince just to clear them out. Thanks for any help
Fit 1400 arties, add one or more invuls to get your resists as close to 70% as possible and fit the rest for tracking and dammage. i use two sebos and two tracking comp's personally. unless we are doing assaults or hq's then we throw on some more buffer or more resists as appropriate. oh an one last thing pack a 100mn MWD, comes in handy for a few sites.
Hope to see you in there. A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

Metellus Scipio
Smokin Aces.
0
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:14:00 -
[470] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:Metellus Scipio wrote:I'm tired of running missions in npc null and want to get into incursions, what is a good machariel fit to generally get in fleets? I join the ISN mailing list and it says make your own :) .
I have done a few null sec incursions with my old allaince just to clear them out. Thanks for any help Fit 1400 arties, add one or more invuls to get your resists as close to 70% as possible and fit the rest for tracking and dammage. i use two sebos and two tracking comp's personally. unless we are doing assaults or hq's then we throw on some more buffer or more resists as appropriate. oh an one last thing pack a 100mn MWD, comes in handy for a few sites. Hope to see you in there.
Thanks, that's what I need to know.
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MrWacko
Squirrel Horde Habitat Against Humanity
3
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Posted - 2012.09.19 09:04:00 -
[471] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:MrWacko wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:I'm no a grammar ****...it just looked like the guy assumed you literally meant projetiles.  edit: Wait, I'm a TVP folk? I was being sarcastic, I forget that my typing comes across differently  Awww, having difficulties? Want a cookie? [/sarcasm] Yes please, what sort? I don;t care about sorts ! Just give me the kookies ! Alright ?
*puts platter of chocolate cookies out*
Yessssss, all according to plan... |

Metellus Scipio
Smokin Aces.
1
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Posted - 2012.09.19 14:38:00 -
[472] - Quote
I had a blast bursting my high-sec incursion cherry in 4Manimal's and Dedri's fleets for about an hour last night. Took a while to get into a fleet, but once I did it was like a well oiled machine. Thanks |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
52
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Posted - 2012.09.19 23:11:00 -
[473] - Quote
Metellus Scipio wrote:I had a blast bursting my high-sec incursion cherry in 4Manimal's and Dedri's fleets for about an hour last night. Took a while to get into a fleet, but once I did it was like a well oiled machine. Thanks
Glad you had a great time, getting the first invite always takes the longest. Now it is just make the iskies and have fun. Hope to see you in there sometime.
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Travis117
APEX ARDENT COALITION Persona Non Gratis
19
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Posted - 2012.09.21 06:24:00 -
[474] - Quote
Im thinking about trying out running HQ's with ISN , what would you say is the average sites per hour isn completes? |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
52
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:37:00 -
[475] - Quote
Travis117 wrote:Im thinking about trying out running HQ's with ISN , what would you say is the average sites per hour isn completes?
In HQ's we get 4 sites an hour in, that is if everything is working right. 3 site an hour when spend time improvising. Strangely enough we do 4 an hour when we switch to boxes (we bring in most of the DPS alts). So on average i would say 100 mil an hour, allows for a few 120 mil hours and a few 90 mil hours.
When we get to light to do HQ's we switch to Assaults where we make a solid 120 mil an hour. and when we lose the numbers to do those we drop to Vanguards where we tend to average a 120 mil an hour.
I guess what I'm saying is that regardless of the sites we are running you can expect 100 mil an hour at least. OH unless we do the mom then that hour jumps up to 150 mil at least.  A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

Kodavor
Mine3
35
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Posted - 2012.09.24 15:36:00 -
[476] - Quote
Zharennaja karto6ka . |

Tobilth Kring
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.09.24 22:00:00 -
[477] - Quote
goldiiee wrote:Travis117 wrote:Im thinking about trying out running HQ's with ISN , what would you say is the average sites per hour isn completes? In HQ's we get 4 sites an hour in, that is if everything is working right. 3 site an hour when spend time improvising. Strangely enough we do 4 an hour when we switch to boxes (we bring in most of the DPS alts). So on average i would say 100 mil an hour, allows for a few 120 mil hours and a few 90 mil hours. When we get to light to do HQ's we switch to Assaults where we make a solid 120 mil an hour. and when we lose the numbers to do those we drop to Vanguards where we tend to average a 120 mil an hour. I guess what I'm saying is that regardless of the sites we are running you can expect 100 mil an hour at least. OH unless we do the mom then that hour jumps up to 150 mil at least. 
have to ask 100 mil with or without taking into account lp? |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
53
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Posted - 2012.09.25 05:21:00 -
[478] - Quote
Tobilth Kring wrote:goldiiee wrote:Travis117 wrote:Im thinking about trying out running HQ's with ISN , what would you say is the average sites per hour isn completes? In HQ's we get 4 sites an hour in, that is if everything is working right. 3 site an hour when spend time improvising. Strangely enough we do 4 an hour when we switch to boxes (we bring in most of the DPS alts). So on average i would say 100 mil an hour, allows for a few 120 mil hours and a few 90 mil hours. When we get to light to do HQ's we switch to Assaults where we make a solid 120 mil an hour. and when we lose the numbers to do those we drop to Vanguards where we tend to average a 120 mil an hour. I guess what I'm saying is that regardless of the sites we are running you can expect 100 mil an hour at least. OH unless we do the mom then that hour jumps up to 150 mil at least.  have to ask 100 mil with or without taking into account lp?
Not including LP. Since Lp has such a variable value it is almost impossible to add LP into an hourly rate. A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

Tobilth Kring
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.09.25 05:27:00 -
[479] - Quote
thanks will have to give ISN a try can fly a loki or macherial and have a fly laying around |

Metellus Scipio
Smokin Aces.
1
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:46:00 -
[480] - Quote
Yea, what Goldiiee said, 100 mil an hour has been the minimum for me. I'm having lots of fun with my mach, about to pull out a Vindicator and try that. |
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Herr Ronin
The Syndemic
289
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Posted - 2012.09.26 19:21:00 -
[481] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Bozlin Noble Ranger Kodavor
ISN Does Mothership SItes? http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg
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Herr Ronin
The Syndemic Chained Reactions
289
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Posted - 2012.09.28 08:13:00 -
[482] - Quote
Meow..
+ =  | Herr Ronin For CSM 8 | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
37
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Posted - 2012.09.30 16:59:00 -
[483] - Quote
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Herr Ronin
The Syndemic Chained Reactions
290
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Posted - 2012.10.03 10:14:00 -
[484] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Bozlin Noble Ranger Kodavor
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
374
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Posted - 2012.10.03 16:39:00 -
[485] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:About Us Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults. How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB. ISN Management Bozlin Noble Ranger Kodavor
Surprised ISD40 has not busted this thread for bumping or necroing like he does in GD with his manic fevor to close threads. Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr so ist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel-á |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
37
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Posted - 2012.10.03 16:55:00 -
[486] - Quote
Why would he ? :o |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
374
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:46:00 -
[487] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Why would he ? :o
Its his nature. Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr so ist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel-á |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
37
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Posted - 2012.10.07 17:55:00 -
[488] - Quote
WOOT ! Best mom fleet contest so far ! 50 odd vs 100 odd %)) Thank you !
Best regards Kodavor |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves .
37
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Posted - 2012.10.08 23:19:00 -
[489] - Quote
Shhhhhh .... I think i saw a ninja ! |

Keith Planck
Keith Planck's Secret Pony Brigade
494
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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:04:00 -
[490] - Quote
Beep Boop |
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Herr Ronin
The Syndemic Chained Reactions
290
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:04:00 -
[491] - Quote
DarthNefarius wrote:Kodavor wrote:Why would he ? :o Its his nature.
Bumb? | Herr Ronin For CSM 8 | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.10.10 15:13:00 -
[492] - Quote
Aluhlah |

Nadia Gallen
Advanced Engineering and Research Division
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Posted - 2012.10.11 00:12:00 -
[493] - Quote
I have to agree with Kodavor.
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goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
54
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:06:00 -
[494] - Quote
I just survived a rather long drawn out conversation about the inequality of shiny vs. standard fleets and the nature of contests. So I felt like this was a safe place to vent/rant.
First I get losing contests sucks GÇÿall that work and no payGÇÖ and I get how it might seem like you lost cause we spent more ISK on our ships.
But I would counter that it has nothing to do with ISK. DonGÇÖt believe me just download and install EFT, EVEHQ or any number of other EVE fitting tools and do this yourself: take your pilot and put it in the pirate faction ship, use T2 guns and faction ammo, add faction gyros/heat sinks, and look at the total DPS you can do with your Toon in my ship. If your using and artillery Mach you should be doing just over 1000 DPS, an Auto-cannon Mach 1400 DPS. If youGÇÖre not then there is no amount of ISK that can get you there, just training.
So the reason you lost the contest and the reason you are grumbling about your wallet and time wasted in the game has nothing to do with me and my friends expensive ship, You chose to train mining barge to lvl5 and made it a point to get all the ships of every faction trained before training the accruements for those particular ships. Your choices in the game are the reason you have not attained the status and capabilities you desire. Not to worry this is easily fixed.
Decide on a damage type, weigh the pros and cons, set a training Que, and wait for it to complete. Then train the next item on the list and donGÇÖt stop till the Elite certificate has been awarded. You wonGÇÖt regret it.
Yes this was a rather short rant, and hopefully the Toon that got me fired up enough to write it will read it (Most likely not).
A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:36:00 -
[495] - Quote
Nuff said, I'll come back to Incursions when fully trained............... |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
37
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:03:00 -
[496] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgBh4yjHafI |

Jebsar
Z-ward
0
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Posted - 2012.10.15 16:36:00 -
[497] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgBh4yjHafI
Wub Wub Wub
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Korth Orazi
Barroom Heroes
0
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Posted - 2012.10.16 12:35:00 -
[498] - Quote
Well, I've been flying Incursions every once in a while for the last couple of months. I started off with VGs and went on with Assaults after the Nerf. Sometime later, more or less by accident, I ended up flying with TVP every once in a while for the last three months or so.
But what kind of annoyed me were the long breaks between sites that occur rather often. In my opinion the time to complete the sites were ok but the FCs need to learn to be more efficient when it comes to the terms of keeping the fleet rolling. A break every once in a while is needed for sure but needing to wait 20-30 minutes every 2 or 3 sites is kinda dull if you ask me.
Due to the regular chatter in TVP about ISN every once in a while I looked them up and joined ISN Secondary. Since I already owned a Vindi with T2 guns I just needed to bling it up a bit and I was ready to roll and I really enjoyed it. Starting off with awesome times on VGs the only real long break I experienced was when we formed a HQ Fleet.
The HQ Fleet wasn't only quicker than the TVP Fleets (not talking about contests) but due to the fact that recruitment happened with a waitlist that was held up to date all the time the breaks between the sites were reduced to a minimum. And that is one of the main things that I like about ISN. Keeping the fleet going. If I just wanted to sit in space and do nothing, I could as well get a Mack and sit in an icebelt or so.
So, if you're new to Incursions I recommend flying with TVP to learn the ropes, earn some ISK and get your stuff together. But as soon as you can afford a Machariel, Vindi, Bhaal, Nightmare and so on with T2 Guns I highly recommend considering joining ISNs fleets. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
298
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:54:00 -
[499] - Quote
Korth Orazi wrote:Well, I've been flying Incursions every once in a while for the last couple of months. I started off with VGs and went on with Assaults after the Nerf. Sometime later, more or less by accident, I ended up flying with TVP every once in a while for the last three months or so.
But what kind of annoyed me were the long breaks between sites that occur rather often. In my opinion the time to complete the sites were ok but the FCs need to learn to be more efficient when it comes to the terms of keeping the fleet rolling. A break every once in a while is needed for sure but needing to wait 20-30 minutes every 2 or 3 sites is kinda dull if you ask me.
Due to the regular chatter in TVP about ISN every once in a while I looked them up and joined ISN Secondary. Since I already owned a Vindi with T2 guns I just needed to bling it up a bit and I was ready to roll and I really enjoyed it. Starting off with awesome times on VGs the only real long break I experienced was when we formed a HQ Fleet.
The HQ Fleet wasn't only quicker than the TVP Fleets (not talking about contests) but due to the fact that recruitment happened with a waitlist that was held up to date all the time the breaks between the sites were reduced to a minimum. And that is one of the main things that I like about ISN. Keeping the fleet going. If I just wanted to sit in space and do nothing, I could as well get a Mack and sit in an icebelt or so.
So, if you're new to Incursions I recommend flying with TVP to learn the ropes, earn some ISK and get your stuff together. But as soon as you can afford a Machariel, Vindi, Bhaal, Nightmare and so on with T2 Guns I highly recommend considering joining ISNs fleets.
I concur, I like HQs better than VGs (VGs are fine, it's just that they are kind fo hectic and with the kids I need to get up for a few minutes now and again, can't do that in an ISN VG fleet lol), but ISN has it's stuff together.
TVP is more laid back and that's really really cool and because of that I tend to fly with them more often unless the kids are asleep or gone or no ISN fleets are up, but if you want to really make isk in an efficient manner, ISN's combination of efficiency, competence and (lets be honest) Shineyness is the only way to go. |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:37:00 -
[500] - Quote
Snake Plissken . |
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Risien Drogonne
Aliastra Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:41:00 -
[501] - Quote
How hard is it to get involved as a logi pilot? I'm starting to look around because I'd like to try incursions, and I'm about 29 days out of the properly-fit Basilisk. I don't have any real logistics experience though. I come from a force recon background.
Do logi pilots get into ISN incursions frequently? And while I'm finishing the skilling, is there somewhere I can go to get some practical experience at piloting these things in a fleet? |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.10.20 08:06:00 -
[502] - Quote
Risien Drogonne wrote:How hard is it to get involved as a logi pilot? I'm starting to look around because I'd like to try incursions, and I'm about 29 days out of the properly-fit Basilisk. I don't have any real logistics experience though. I come from a force recon background.
Do logi pilots get into ISN incursions frequently? And while I'm finishing the skilling, is there somewhere I can go to get some practical experience at piloting these things in a fleet?
ISN incursion XD XD
Incursions are Sansha Nations . ISN fleets are the ones that battle them . Ones among many . There are other incursion chanels that people can gather their experience from . Such as BTL Pub and GIP Icn . |

Risien Drogonne
Aliastra Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.10.20 09:12:00 -
[503] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Risien Drogonne wrote:How hard is it to get involved as a logi pilot? I'm starting to look around because I'd like to try incursions, and I'm about 29 days out of the properly-fit Basilisk. I don't have any real logistics experience though. I come from a force recon background.
Do logi pilots get into ISN incursions frequently? And while I'm finishing the skilling, is there somewhere I can go to get some practical experience at piloting these things in a fleet? ISN incursion XD XD Incursions are Sansha Nations . ISN fleets are the ones that battle them . Ones among many . There are other incursion chanels that people can gather their experience from . Such as BTL Pub and GIP Icn . LOL sorry. I 'm kinda new to the whole PvE side of the game other than running missions. All this PvE stuff was added while I was gone. Thanks for the advice. |

Taiyri Uchonela
State Protectorate Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:19:00 -
[504] - Quote
Random question. For starting incursions which would be better? Tempest, Tempest Fleet Issue, or Maelstrom? http://thepvpexperience.com |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:37:00 -
[505] - Quote
Taiyri Uchonela wrote:Random question. For starting incursions which would be better? Tempest, Tempest Fleet Issue, or Maelstrom?
Tempest Fleet Issue |

Taiyri Uchonela
State Protectorate Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.10.21 04:33:00 -
[506] - Quote
Well got my feet wet with a Maelstrom in TVP today. I really hope the drama that I experienced today was just temporary otherwise I'll just be sitting while I train for the Machariel to try running with ISN instead. :/ http://thepvpexperience.com |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.10.21 08:21:00 -
[507] - Quote
Taiyri Uchonela wrote:Well got my feet wet with a Maelstrom in TVP today. I really hope the drama that I experienced today was just temporary otherwise I'll just be sitting while I train for the Machariel to try running with ISN instead. :/
I am sad to hear that your experience was a bad one . We will be doing HQ sites today and in ISN HQ fleet there are usualy 4 - 5 slots for ships / pilots that are not on par with the rest of ISN members .
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Taiyri Uchonela
State Protectorate Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.10.21 16:09:00 -
[508] - Quote
The overall experience wasn't bad, just the drama was annoying. I'm not gonna try and run with you guys until I fit your standards. Not really fair to everyone else in the fleet. http://thepvpexperience.com |

R McGunne
The Hirogens
1
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Posted - 2012.10.22 08:03:00 -
[509] - Quote
Then it is a good thing that ISN do what they do - they are forcing other groups to up their game, which is very much needed in certain instances. Some people want to improve, others fly the same cheap hulls and fits for months, basically leeching on lazy mode.
You don't quite need to have a pirate hull and shiny fittings, as long as you can fit your ship well, and fly it well, thereby adding to the fleet. Investing in your tools shows other people that you want to be a contributing member, and not just a leech.
And good contest to ISN. |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.10.24 10:34:00 -
[510] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/gO5YN.png |
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Yimodo
Emphebion Emperium
2
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:04:00 -
[511] - Quote
Yes he is... with Noble on a close second ;) |

LoompaLand Ballr
Global Economy Experts Stellar Economy Experts
0
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Posted - 2012.10.24 23:37:00 -
[512] - Quote
R McGunne wrote: You don't quite need to have a pirate hull and shiny fittings, as long as you can fit your ship well, and fly it well, thereby adding to the fleet. Investing in your tools shows other people that you want to be a contributing member, and not just a leech.
And good contest to ISN.
Would a T2 Navy Megathrone be welcome? Vindi is a goal once the cash starts flowing
edit: w/blasters, roughly 1k dps |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.10.25 04:35:00 -
[513] - Quote
LoompaLand Ballr wrote:R McGunne wrote: You don't quite need to have a pirate hull and shiny fittings, as long as you can fit your ship well, and fly it well, thereby adding to the fleet. Investing in your tools shows other people that you want to be a contributing member, and not just a leech.
And good contest to ISN.
Would a T2 Navy Megathrone be welcome? Vindi is a goal once the cash starts flowing edit: w/blasters, roughly 1k dps
As a matter of fact we do have a Navy Mega fit for HQ and VG's . It's just not public . But yeah . IT would be sufficient for starting out in ISN . |

Qalix
Relentless Grind
14
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:05:00 -
[514] - Quote
Your OP leads me to believe that I should check your mailing list to see whether my fittings are correct and appropriate, but they aren't public. Why have a mailing list with no content? Why send people to it if it isn't public?
Just wanted to find out what kind of Tengu fits I should have to give this ISN thing a try. |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.10.25 18:09:00 -
[515] - Quote
Qalix wrote:Your OP leads me to believe that I should check your mailing list to see whether my fittings are correct and appropriate, but they aren't public. Why have a mailing list with no content? Why send people to it if it isn't public?
Just wanted to find out what kind of Tengu fits I should have to give this ISN thing a try.
T2 link max subs OGB tengus %) |

LoompaLand Ballr
Global Economy Experts Stellar Economy Experts
0
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Posted - 2012.10.25 22:14:00 -
[516] - Quote
Any chance I could get a PM with the t2 navy mega fit? |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.10.28 07:11:00 -
[517] - Quote
Comtact Kodavor in-game please . |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.10.31 16:39:00 -
[518] - Quote
Poison apples . |

Miria1
The Arrow Project
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 02:03:00 -
[519] - Quote
Do you guys have any guidelines as to how you prefer your logistics to be fit?
Thinking of starting incursioning again. |

Yimodo
Emphebion Emperium
2
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Posted - 2012.11.01 06:14:00 -
[520] - Quote
We have some guidelines, just join ISN Secondary and people can help you with your fitting. |
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Miria1
The Arrow Project
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 06:17:00 -
[521] - Quote
Cheers, will do. |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.11.04 23:00:00 -
[522] - Quote
FORWARD ! |

Herr Ronin
Knights Of The Blood
292
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Posted - 2012.11.05 12:34:00 -
[523] - Quote
LEFT ! | Herr Ronin For CSM 8 | Skype: Herr-Ronin | Twitter: @Herr_Ronin |
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goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
54
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Posted - 2012.11.05 16:00:00 -
[524] - Quote
RIGHT! A Lion does not concern itself with the opinions of Sheep. |

Nadia Gallen
Advanced Engineering and Research Division
6
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Posted - 2012.11.05 16:05:00 -
[525] - Quote
JUMP damn it.. JUMP!! |

Yimodo
Emphebion Emperium
2
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Posted - 2012.11.05 17:36:00 -
[526] - Quote
THE ISN TRAIN WILL KEEP GOING!! |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.11.07 12:54:00 -
[527] - Quote
OGB's affect ISN . We support Goldiiee's post .
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=170187&find=unread |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
883

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Posted - 2012.11.07 13:19:00 -
[528] - Quote
Hi everyone,
If you want to keep bumping this thread then do so constructively; these spam comments will end up with this thread being locked.
Thanks and fly safe! ISD Suvetar,-áCaptain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department We are hiring! |
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Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.11.07 13:40:00 -
[529] - Quote
Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Noble Ranger , Kodavor and Bozl1n . Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communities that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems.
When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communities fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communities left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community. We still remain Vanguard focused but now have conquered all of the Incursions sites including many Kundulini sites . All of it was possible trough hard work and support of or pilots in the core .
How To Join
Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure.
ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders.
ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here.
If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature.
Requirements
The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below.
With maxed out OGB
Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we no longer have a public Mailing List for our Fittings due to various reasons .
ISN Management
Bozl1n Noble Ranger Kodavor
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Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
292
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:24:00 -
[530] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Incursion United is a new community that has been around for many months, currently ICU - Incursion United focus's on Vanguards, they came to power after the nerf when the incursion communitys came back to the incursion scene.
When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communities fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communities left standing, Incursion United gave vanguards a second try, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of the community. ICU still remain Vanguard focused but are now looking to expand onto harder incursion sites.
How To Join
Joining Incursion United is simple, We currently have one ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infrastructure.
Incursion United - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders.
If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature.
Requirements
The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below.
With maxed out OGB
Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we no longer have a public Mailing List for our Fittings due to various reasons .
ICU Management
Sly294
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goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
64
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:30:00 -
[531] - Quote
? is this some kind of joke? troll ? or just lack of imagination? There is no "I" in "team." but there are 5 in "narcissistic personality disorder." |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
109
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Posted - 2012.11.08 21:08:00 -
[532] - Quote
Nice "it put ore down in can or it gets the hose again"
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg |

Sycotic Deninard
Polaris Breach Corp
23
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Posted - 2012.11.08 22:19:00 -
[533] - Quote
In light of the last meeting between TVP and ISN, I find it amusing that the new name ISN has come up with has the word "United" in it because we all know that being united with the incursion community as a whole is the goal of ISN.
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Yimodo
Emphebion Emperium
2
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Posted - 2012.11.09 07:57:00 -
[534] - Quote
ICU is an other incursion community, if ISN would take a different name they would also have the same managment. This is however not the case, I dont know what is going on at the moment but the post has been edited by Herr Ronin one of the founding members of ISN.
The current managment of ISN is Noble Ranger, Kodavor and Bozlin. I'll wait for their response on this matter before I join a different channel with also a different Leader.
I also advise the rest to do the same, dont join ISN fleets untill there has been word from the current managment (mentiond above)
Greetings, Yimo |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
64
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Posted - 2012.11.09 08:04:00 -
[535] - Quote
Herr Ronin has decided to stop playing EVE and pursue a life :) He left us with a string of practical jokes and this is one of them. ISN is still ISN and you can still locate us in chat 'ISN Secondary'
I have some real life things to take care of but i will try to get as many of these 'Jokes' straight as possible later today There is no "I" in "team." but there are 5 in "narcissistic personality disorder." |

Nadia Gallen
Advanced Engineering and Research Division
6
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Posted - 2012.11.09 10:49:00 -
[536] - Quote
I knew there was a reason why I liked Herr Ronin.
Good Humor :D
All the best Ronin! |

Kodavor
Jesus Saves 1 .
38
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Posted - 2012.11.10 11:00:00 -
[537] - Quote
Kodavor wrote:Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Noble Ranger , Kodavor and Bozl1n . Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communities that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems. When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communities fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communities left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community. We still remain Vanguard focused but now have conquered all of the Incursions sites including many Kundulini sites . All of it was possible trough hard work and support of or pilots in the core . How To Join Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure. ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders. ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here. If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature. Requirements The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below. With maxed out OGB Machariels/Nightmares: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Vindicator: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70% Basilisks: Logistics 5, 5 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank Scimmitar: Logistics 5, 4 T2 Shield Reps, Sufficient Tank T3 Cruisers: T2 Guns, All Resistances Above 70%
Please note that we no longer have a public Mailing List for our Fittings due to various reasons .
ISN Management Bozl1n Noble Ranger Kodavor
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Snatch Pinion
Jita Exiles Strategic Warfare Operations Command
4
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:49:00 -
[538] - Quote
Herr Ronin sold his toon off to another incursion community pilot. The toon Herr Ronin no longer has anything to do with ISN in the slightest regard.
edit: other than the fact that they steal our recruiting propaganda like they did our fittings and fleet compositions. then again, who can blame them, ISN is the best at all these things. |

goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
66
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Posted - 2012.11.10 21:24:00 -
[539] - Quote
Snatch Pinion wrote:Herr Ronin sold his toon off to another incursion community pilot. The toon Herr Ronin no longer has anything to do with ISN in the slightest regard.
edit: other than the fact that they steal our recruiting propaganda like they did our fittings and fleet compositions. then again, who can blame them, ISN is the best at all these things.
They must have learned leadership from the recent US elections. :) There is no "I" in "team." but there are 5 in "narcissistic personality disorder." |

Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
292
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Posted - 2012.11.11 04:18:00 -
[540] - Quote
Snatch Pinion wrote:Herr Ronin sold his toon off to another incursion community pilot. The toon Herr Ronin no longer has anything to do with ISN in the slightest regard.
edit: other than the fact that they steal our recruiting propaganda like they did our fittings and fleet compositions. then again, who can blame them, ISN is the best at all these things.
Whoever said to you i sold my character is miss informed, I am currently AFK from the game my sugerfur.
Take Care  |
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Bozl1n
Shiva The Retirement Club
10
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Posted - 2012.11.11 04:43:00 -
[541] - Quote
Thanks for restoring the thread mate.
Appreciate it o7 |

Snatch Pinion
Jita Exiles Strategic Warfare Operations Command
4
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Posted - 2012.11.12 08:59:00 -
[542] - Quote
Herr Ronin wrote:Snatch Pinion wrote:Herr Ronin sold his toon off to another incursion community pilot. The toon Herr Ronin no longer has anything to do with ISN in the slightest regard.
edit: other than the fact that they steal our recruiting propaganda like they did our fittings and fleet compositions. then again, who can blame them, ISN is the best at all these things. Whoever said to you i sold my character is miss informed, I am currently AFK from the game my sugerfur. Take Care 
Okay, because if you did, it'd be mad illegal, a ban-able offence according to the EULA. If your IP changed without you going through the Character Bazaar first, the toon is gone... Just gone. If it is you, whose name will be unspoken, why the mailing lists? Just why? Otherwise, enjoy that lost isk on a toon. |

Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
292
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Posted - 2012.11.12 11:29:00 -
[543] - Quote
Snatch Pinion wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Snatch Pinion wrote:Herr Ronin sold his toon off to another incursion community pilot. The toon Herr Ronin no longer has anything to do with ISN in the slightest regard.
edit: other than the fact that they steal our recruiting propaganda like they did our fittings and fleet compositions. then again, who can blame them, ISN is the best at all these things. Whoever said to you i sold my character is miss informed, I am currently AFK from the game my sugerfur. Take Care  Okay, because if you did, it'd be mad illegal, a ban-able offence according to the EULA. If your IP changed without you going through the Character Bazaar first, the toon is gone... Just gone. If it is you, whose name will be unspoken, why the mailing lists? Just why? Otherwise, enjoy that lost isk on a toon.
I am fully aware on how the Character Bazzar work's Snatch, Yes i deleted mailing lists, are you aware how simple it is to remake them, I cut all links to ISN, this forum being the only one left.
Regarding the "Enjoy the lost isk on a toon" - Not sure what you are trying to pinpoint, but i assure you i will be fine for at least a few years of gameplay, hence the reason I've left incursions.
From now on if you want to Snipe/Troll or ask Questions, EVE-Mail me or add me on Skype, let's not clutter up this forum so it get's locked.
Regards ~ |
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
778

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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:14:00 -
[544] - Quote
Locking this thread - it's had several spam/off topic warnings already. If ISN want to make a new, more constructive thread, they are welcome to. CCP Affinity | Follow me on Twitter Content Designer for EVE Online |
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