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Conjure
Killson Corp
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.13 20:43:00 -
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OK its been a long time since I sold any GTC but it used to be 190m+ for a 30D, now its 160m? if not lower? WTF!?!?!?
It was already almost not worth it to buy/sell GTC for isk in the first place, but not its stupid to. This smells of ******s wanting to sell their GTC as fast as possible so they reduce prices ....... god dammit how stupid are people???? This is like throwing you money away. I mean its ALREADY throwing your real money away but its even worse now.
And you wont hear CCP complain about it or do anything about it because they are making bukoo bucks off this crap. IF CCP is going to allow buying/selling of GTC they should be responsible enough to regulate the prices for them. It should be a standard rate of at least 190m for 30D and so on. But like I said this will fall on deaf ears because ..... 1. Most people are too stupid to see the fault in this and 2. CCP doesn't care. This is WAY unbalanced for sellers of GTC.
I might as well buy isk of ebay, if it wasn't illegal. The funny thing is, is that I was always pro GTC selling until now.
Oh and don't bother posting crap like, "oh ur so ghey! Then dont do it!" because your the same exact idiot thats letting this happen.
This is CRAP, what incentive is there against buying isk from GTC rather than ebay (besides eula) with these prices. You see CCP crying about not buying isk, WELL WAKE UP CCP ITS YOUR OWN DOING! You all are doing this to yourselfs but not regulating GTC selling, of course people are going to goto the cheaper source. And yeah yeah eve has always had a player driven economy! but this is REAL LIFE MONEY we are talking about here. You know what I bet the economist they hired was just a way of finding out how many other different ways CCP could *****us in the behind financially.
Anyway my rant is over, I still love eve but hate management. I will probably get hundred flames .... but like I care ive said what I needed to say.
Oh yeah and my view arnt those of my corp alliance, blah blah blah (ur dumber than a box of rox if u thought so anyway).
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.04.13 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 13/04/2008 20:44:41
It is a gaem and 30M is liek a few cens ... it is not liek anyting big too complan about.
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.13 20:45:00 -
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There are more GTC seller than buyers, so prices drop.
Not that hard to understand...
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.04.13 20:45:00 -
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Rofl
your allowed to buy your way and you still moan ?
Im glad they are cheap then those with more money than sense, or time can fund my playtime while i loaf along on the dole, paying for my account via suicide ganks.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Neth's Workshop
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Posted - 2008.04.13 20:45:00 -
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oh ur so ghey! Then dont do it!
and posting in a jenny thread..
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2008.04.13 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Sirial Soulfly on 13/04/2008 20:48:20
Poastign ina Jenny Therad!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.13 20:47:00 -
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In the very EARLY days of GTC trades, 30-day GTCs used to sell for as low as 100 mil ISK.
Why aren't you complaining the reverse was out of control, when GTCs almost hit 200 mil per 30-day GTC ?
Now it's somewhere in the middle... whoop, big deal.
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.04.13 20:49:00 -
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The thing is you can still pick them up for 100m between friends. |
Forum Watcher
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.13 20:49:00 -
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Can I have your GTC's? |
5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Furb Killer
Edited by: Furb Killer on 13/04/2008 20:46:12
There are more GTC seller than buyers, so prices drop.
Not that hard to understand...
Apparently people have no problems with getting 160M for a 30 day gtc, if they would, they would stop doing it, and prices would go up.
Oh and btw, just work for your isk if you got a problem with it :/
Uhh, you mean more buyers than sellers don't you? 
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:03:00 -
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Might be, it is confusing, they all sell/buy gtc and buy/sell isk. I get headache when i think too much about it.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Might be, it is confusing, they all sell/buy gtc and buy/sell isk. I get headache when i think too much about it.
No, it si not. It is buy GTC for ISKs or sell GTC for ISKs.
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Conjure
Killson Corp
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy
Originally by: Furb Killer
Edited by: Furb Killer on 13/04/2008 20:46:12
There are more GTC seller than buyers, so prices drop.
Not that hard to understand...
Apparently people have no problems with getting 160M for a 30 day gtc, if they would, they would stop doing it, and prices would go up.
Oh and btw, just work for your isk if you got a problem with it :/
Uhh, you mean more buyers than sellers don't you?
Nope, more sellers ..... if there was more buyers than sellers prices would increase ...... supply and demand. Well it could be argued either way ..... but what I know of eve prices would increase as sellers know they could get away with it. At least this is how it plays out in my head =P
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:06:00 -
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Hai, how abuot cuz of deflashun of ISKs, GTCs are moar expansive?
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Lakut
Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:07:00 -
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One difference between eBay/farmed ISK and GTC trade ISK, is that GTC ISK are usually made by Real People[tm] that don't live in third world countries slaving away for less than a dollar per hour and value their time differently.
If I go and make ISK (be it 0.0 ratting, missioning, mining, etc. whatever floats your boat) let's assume I make 30-40mil per hour. Now that's roughly 4 hours of work for a GTC that you can buy at shatteredcrystal for like what, 15 USD?
If I buy your GTC, I have now worked for an hourly rate of 3.75$ for you to make ISK for you.
I dunno about other countries, but I guess that's less than minimum wage in most first and maybe second world countries. Chalk the the difference to minimum or average wage up to "having fun" while making the ISK.
I see it that way, and from that perspective, I can fully understand the prices for GTC trades as opposed to eBay/RMT.
Originally by: Forum Watcher
Can I have your GTC's?
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Face Palmer
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:09:00 -
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Not getting enough ISK for your GTCs? Then, um let me see... don't sell them and stop wetting the bed? 
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:11:00 -
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The price of a GTC is not dictated by you.
GTC's sales started off around the 100-150mil mark. If it is 160mil as you say, its still higher than what it used to be long ago.
Is it CCP's fault that players are choosing to sell at a price that they are happy with? Nope. Its actually you fault for not understanding how the free market works.
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:15:00 -
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Bloody hell some EvE players can whine about anything. 
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life.
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Soulita
Gallente
Inner Core
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Soulita on 13/04/2008 21:23:40
I love this development.
Once game time cards sell for 15isk each, I will sell my billions and become a billionaire in RL!
Yeeehaaaa !! 
On a more serious note - GTC<>Isk conversion sucks. RL money should have as lil influence on in game success as possible. Just my humble opinion.
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Conjure
Killson Corp
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
The price of a GTC is not dictated by you.
GTC's sales started off around the 100-150mil mark. If it is 160mil as you say, its still higher than what it used to be long ago.
Is it CCP's fault that players are choosing to sell at a price that they are happy with? Nope. Its actually you fault for not understanding how the free market works.
Wow thanks for showing how n00b u are. Its those who sell the GTC that set the prices in reality, for the most part. However if people choose not to buy at what people are selling for, then sellers lower the price. But again its up to the sellers what they want to sell for. Act as smart as you want to, doesnt make it so.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:33:00 -
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CCP don't control GTC prices
PS: your avatar is scary 
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Riho
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:46:00 -
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this has got to be one of the most idiotic post i have ever read.
why?
first of all CCP doesnt set the price on gtc to isk conversion. its the players who set the the price how much they want for the gtc. if players are willing to sell at 130mil per 90 day card.. well.. nothing you can do about it.
its basic supply vs demand. more demand... higher prices, higher supply... lower prices.
so if a player thinks hes 15 dollars is worth around 150mil isk... then he will sell it. if he doesnt like it.. he wount do it and thats it.
CCP cant and will not control the price...
so.. if you dont like it.. dont take part in it. dont whine at CCP about this.. makes you look stupid when they have absolutly nothing to do whit the value in iks that one gtc is worth :P
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Asuka Smith
Gallente
StarHunt
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.04.13 21:52:00 -
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This is a funny whine, goonpost for sure.
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.04.13 22:05:00 -
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Actually IAC, but that doesnt make much of a diff.
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Adrielle Firewalker
Minmatar
WASTELAND MINERS Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.13 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
PS: your avatar is scary
Your isn't 
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Conjure
Killson Corp
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.13 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Riho
this has got to be one of the most idiotic post i have ever read.
why?
first of all CCP doesnt set the price on gtc to isk conversion. its the players who set the the price how much they want for the gtc. if players are willing to sell at 130mil per 90 day card.. well.. nothing you can do about it.
its basic supply vs demand. more demand... higher prices, higher supply... lower prices.
so if a player thinks hes 15 dollars is worth around 150mil isk... then he will sell it. if he doesnt like it.. he wount do it and thats it.
CCP cant and will not control the price...
so.. if you dont like it.. dont take part in it. dont whine at CCP about this.. makes you look stupid when they have absolutly nothing to do whit the value in iks that one gtc is worth :P
LEARN TO READ!
I said CCP SHOULD control the prices. I never said it did. Players control the prices. God damnit why do I bother ....
Anyway I bought a GTC today thinking I could sell it for 190m .... guess not ..... so dont worry after this I dont plan on taking part in selling GTC ever again. So ok thanks bye. |
Faife
Blackrain Solutions
Twilight Trade Cartel
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Posted - 2008.04.13 22:34:00 -
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OP is poutiest avatar ever. |
Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.04.13 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Conjure
LEARN TO READ!
I said CCP SHOULD control the prices. I never said it did. Players control the prices. God damnit why do I bother ....
Anyway I bought a GTC today thinking I could sell it for 190m .... guess not ..... so dont worry after this I dont plan on taking part in selling GTC ever again. So ok thanks bye.
Wel, if you are not happi, you can go mine or trada ... |
Conjure
Killson Corp
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.13 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
OP is poutiest avatar ever.
Oh I totally agree, voicing ones opinion is TOTALLY being pouty. And you can all say what you wish to say becuase 1. its your opinion and 2. I dont care and 3. I pay 14.99 a month to be able to use the forums/game so ill post anything I see fit to post about until I get banned or quit. |
TimMc
Gallente
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.04.13 22:53:00 -
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Falling price of dollar, increase in supply of GTC sellers while demand isn't changing.
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