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CCP Casqade

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Posted - 2008.04.15 12:52:00 -
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Hi everyone!
Here we are again, another patch for increased stability and bug fixes. Looking at the previous post patch discussion thread, it seems that most people are happy with the stability, but rare cases of crashing still occurs. I would like to point out that using the Bug report system is the best way to help out finding issues with the client and fixing them. - I would like to gather your post-patch Mac experience in this thread.
As usual, I would still like to know about the client stability. But in this thread please also make a small list, 3, 5 or 7 points of what you believe are still the top (X) issues in the Mac client.
With that said, I hope you enjoy the patch!
- If you are still having problems with corrupted rendering or with crashes try clearing your cache by doing the following:
1. Open Finder 2. Go to Home 3. Open Library 4. Open Preferences 5. Open EVE Online Preferences 6. Open p_drive 7. Open Local settings 8. Open Application Data 9. Open CCP 10. Open EVE 11. Move all the files and folders to Trash. (File called History.txt, Folders called: "c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility", "Cache" and "settings" 12. Restart your client
Note that doing this will delete your ingame settings such as Bookmark folders, Overview settings, color settings etc.
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SoleDeo Gloria
Minmatar X-Incorporated Exa Nation
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Posted - 2008.04.15 16:11:00 -
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F11 Map still scrambled :(
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Shin Chogan
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Posted - 2008.04.15 16:14:00 -
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FPS still c**p. I'm running an 8 core 2.8 GHz Mac Pro with an NVidia 8800GT for ghads sake 30 fps in space is pathetic !!!
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Tazz Devilsar
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Posted - 2008.04.15 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tazz Devilsar on 15/04/2008 16:36:24 Huh?
MacPro 2x2.66 GHz Dual Core Intel Xeon 2GB RAM ATI Radeon x1900 512MB
an my FPS get up 5 to 10 points (up to 35 / 40)
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Shin Chogan
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Posted - 2008.04.15 16:47:00 -
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My alt in Ammold has gone from about 18 fps to about 25 fps in the asteroid belt but my main in Ourserlert has only gone from about 28 fps to about 30 fps these are still lower than they were pre Trinity 1.1. There has been a little improvement but I was expecting more
I suppose that I'm just generally hacked off that my 5 year old PC that I just replaced with this nice shiny Mac Pro was getting similar fps ... in general the fps with the Mac client sucks compared to the windows client.
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Blackfog
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Posted - 2008.04.15 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Blackfog on 15/04/2008 17:02:02 I have a mac pro and the following probs:
When i launch eve i get a black screen. I can see the eve cursor and guess where the login is. I can also type in the passwort in the black field and i can also log in but i don't see any graphics. I restarted eve severeal times, deleted it and installed it again, i also cleared my cache as explained above, but still nothing happens... HELP :T
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monomatic
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Posted - 2008.04.15 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: monomatic on 15/04/2008 17:22:14 same problem with the user above. unplayable. imac 2.16ghz core2duo 2gb ram ati radeon x1600 leopard osx
tried everything mentioned in the forums (including permission repair, deleting folder from pref folder, re-installing..) |
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CCP Casqade

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Posted - 2008.04.15 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Blackfog Edited by: Blackfog on 15/04/2008 17:02:02 I have a mac pro and the following probs:
When i launch eve i get a black screen. I can see the eve cursor and guess where the login is. I can also type in the passwort in the black field and i can also log in but i don't see any graphics. I restarted eve severeal times, deleted it and installed it again, i also cleared my cache as explained above, but still nothing happens... HELP :T
Try downloading the full installer: http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/mac/eve-001306_53162_mac.dmg Open the file you just downloaded and click and drag it to the applications folder. Please let me know if that solves your issue or not. |
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Blackfog
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Posted - 2008.04.15 18:19:00 -
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the same. Downloading the Full Installer, clear all caches -> Same Problem :(
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Vera Tosawa
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Posted - 2008.04.15 19:22:00 -
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I'm getting very, very frequent crashes (< 3 minutes a run), making the game unplayable. I can even get it to crash on the login screen. Neither a fresh download nor nuking Library/Preferences/EVE Online Preferences fixed the issue. Reported as bug #56360.
- Mac Pro running 10.5.2 - 2x quad core 2.8 GHz Xeons - 10 GB RAM - Geforce 8800 GT (512 MB)
Worked fine (well, as fine as usual) before the patch.
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Sma Zakalwe
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.15 19:33:00 -
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No real issues so far. However, as a comparison on FPS, my underpowered Macbook (1.8Ghz Intel, Single Core, 2GB RAM, 64MB INtegrated graphics) now gets 15-16 FPS in space. After 1.1 update it was 3-5 FPS. Fair enough, not bad for an unsupported machine. However, my brand-spanking new 2.5 Ghz Macbook Pro with 4GB RAM, Dual Core, and GeForce 8600M GT 512MB gets 35-50 FPS in space.
All that additional hardware gets me approx 15-35 FPS.
The Mac client really needs a bit of work.
But compared to the problems post-1.1. I am a happy punter (fingers crossed).

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Ignatius Man
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Posted - 2008.04.15 19:34:00 -
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FPS up!!!! yay!
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Mahandra Hunter
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Posted - 2008.04.15 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Mahandra Hunter on 15/04/2008 19:58:31 Edited by: Mahandra Hunter on 15/04/2008 19:56:55 Macbook Pro, 2,4ghz, 2GB, 50gb HD free, Nvidia 8600M GT with 256 VRAM, OSX 10.4.11, fully updated.
* FPS seems to be up 10 points or so in space EXCEPT when approaching a structure, or even passing a planet in warp, when it dips sharply. Haven't tested it for the old "5-20 sec freeze when jumping into a room" issue (or similar when approaching any PVP goings-on).
* F11 minimap still borked.
* Odd happening entering Urlen: the background (not structures or planets) was scrambled (and oddly, half the minimap readable). Docked and the station was not scrambled. Undocked and Urlen still was. Jumped out and the next system was fine. Jumped back and Urlen still scrambled. Reset screen rez - but didn't click "keep" - and that cleared the issue.
Points to a flaky driver for my Nvidia 8600M GT
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Kernel Flux
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:39:00 -
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Similar problems. Crash on exiting station, logging in. EVE now unplayable. iMac 2.8 GHz, OS X Leopard. Please help!
Originally by: Blackfog Edited by: Blackfog on 15/04/2008 17:02:02 I have a mac pro and the following probs:
When i launch eve i get a black screen. I can see the eve cursor and guess where the login is. I can also type in the passwort in the black field and i can also log in but i don't see any graphics. I restarted eve severeal times, deleted it and installed it again, i also cleared my cache as explained above, but still nothing happens... HELP :T
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Vera Tosawa
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Posted - 2008.04.15 22:22:00 -
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Does Applications, Utilities, Console show any error messages from EVE?
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Gabriel Puce
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Posted - 2008.04.16 03:30:00 -
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Eve is completely broken for me under 1.2 -- black screen as reported by an earlier poster. Deleting the preferences results in the sound playing, but nothing else.
This is with a macbook air (I use the client to update my skills training, no PvP or exiting stations for me!)
Erk :-(
Console reports the following:
15/04/2008 21:19:56 tgUpdate[162] tgUpdate:INIT (0x0) 15/04/2008 21:19:56 tgUpdate[162] tgUpd:init 15/04/2008 21:19:57 tgUpdate[162] Error 70000001 15/04/2008 21:19:57 tgUpdate[162] tgUpdate:DEALLOC (0x0) 15/04/2008 21:19:57 tgUpdate[162] Launching "/Applications/EVE Online.app/Contents/MacOS/cider" -psn & 15/04/2008 21:19:57 cider[164] Error reading affiliate.plist:The file ôaffiliate.plistö does not exist. 15/04/2008 21:19:57 [0x0-0x22022].com.transgaming.EVEOnline[162] 2008-04-15 21:19:57.104 cider[164:10b] Error reading affiliate.plist:The file ôaffiliate.plistö does not exist. 15/04/2008 21:19:57 [0x0-0x22022].com.transgaming.EVEOnline[162] Could not stat /Applications/EVE Online.app/Contents/Resources/transgaming/f_drive (No such file or directory), ignoring drive F: 15/04/2008 21:19:57 Mac_SwapperDemon[133] ZTESwapperMain::checkUsbcdDevice Restore to the Initial state 15/04/2008 21:19:57 [0x0-0x22022].com.transgaming.EVEOnline[162] Could not stat /Applications/EVE Online.app/Contents/Resources/transgaming/f_drive (No such file or directory), ignoring drive F: 15/04/2008 21:19:58 com.apple.launchd[107] ([0x0-0x22022].com.transgaming.EVEOnline[162]) Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 167 PPID 164 cider 15/04/2008 21:19:58 com.apple.launchd[107] ([0x0-0x22022].com.transgaming.EVEOnline[162]) Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 164 PPID 1 cider
I get lots of "ZTESwapperMain::checkUsbcdDevice Restore to the Initial state" errors and google doesn't appear to know what they are. They don't appear related to any EVE problem, however.
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Jane Pendleton
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Posted - 2008.04.16 03:35:00 -
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Also getting the same black screen problem -- there are three or four orange pixels on the top left of my screen, and everything else is black. However, when I mouse around the blackness, the cursor changes from one form to another--some places it's a text cursor, other places it's the crosshairs, other times the arrow.
console errors:
4/15/08 10:33:50 PM tgUpdate[328] tgUpdate:INIT (0x0) 4/15/08 10:33:50 PM tgUpdate[328] tgUpd:init 4/15/08 10:33:51 PM tgUpdate[328] Error 70000001 4/15/08 10:33:51 PM tgUpdate[328] tgUpdate:DEALLOC (0x0) 4/15/08 10:33:51 PM tgUpdate[328] Launching "/Applications/EVE Online.app/Contents/MacOS/cider" -psn & 4/15/08 10:33:52 PM cider[330] Error reading affiliate.plist:The file ôaffiliate.plistö does not exist. 4/15/08 10:33:52 PM [0x0-0x38038].com.transgaming.EVEOnline[328] 2008-04-15 22:33:52.092 cider[330:10b] Error reading affiliate.plist:The file ôaffiliate.plistö does not exist. 4/15/08 10:33:53 PM com.apple.launchd[84] ([0x0-0x38038].com.transgaming.EVEOnline[328]) Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 333 PPID 330 cider 4/15/08 10:33:53 PM com.apple.launchd[84] ([0x0-0x38038].com.transgaming.EVEOnline[328]) Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 330 PPID 1 cider
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CCP Casqade

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Posted - 2008.04.16 10:45:00 -
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Hi. Those of you who are experiencing this black screen on start up. Can you please send us a bug report. Here is how you do it:
1. Go here and read the Mac section: https://bugs.eve-online.com/help.asp 2. Save the console output 3. Compress all files using .zip or .rar 4. Go here: https://bugs.eve-online.com/newbugreport.asp -Write a good title and description as well as reproduction steps -Attach the compressed files 5. Additional information about bug reporting in general can be found here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=585921
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Jacob Godserv
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Posted - 2008.04.16 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Casqade 3. Compress all files using .zip or .rar
When you say "all" files, you mean "all of the above" or EVE's settings folder?
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Jacob Godserv
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Posted - 2008.04.16 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Puce
Console reports the following:
Hey, how'd you get it to run in the Console? I was trying to do that for my bug report yesterday but couldn't figure it out. :)
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Jane Pendleton
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Posted - 2008.04.16 13:23:00 -
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Submitted a bug report for this. Apparently they have decided that they're not supporting the Macbook Air anymore, and the new patch breaks the client for the Air. Which is very annoying, since I've been playing on the Air for the past month without a problem (yes, it's slow, but you can play).
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Jacob Godserve
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Posted - 2008.04.16 19:28:00 -
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Alright, you guys can ignore the above two questions, I figured it out.
Anyways, my bug report about the black screen at startup was "attached to a defect", so it appears they've identified and are working on the issue.
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XD Andy
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.16 20:34:00 -
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Initial experience,
flawless patch.
running full screen 1920x1200 and max settings (audio and eve voice enabled) I'm getting 35-37 fps in space. Even zoomed in on my ship.
f11 map is bugged to crap ... graphics totally corrupted. Looks like those 3d pictures you used to get ... all those dots you had to stare at until the picture popped out at you. Think this is an old issue though.
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Mahandra Hunter
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Posted - 2008.04.17 00:02:00 -
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Furhter to above - many minor by really irritating graphics glitches with corrupted environment backgrounds (when in space). Sometimes restricted to 1 system, sometimes "follows you around".
A friend lost a Raven today because of a screen freeze (with reimbursement refused - are you guys trying to lose customers?). |

Elgahar
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Posted - 2008.04.17 05:20:00 -
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Having the same problem some others seem to experience. Eve crashes constantly, often before I can complete login. Worked fine before the latest patch and I tried to uninstall and reinstall without any help.
Error in the log seems to be
4/17/08 8:15:04 AM [0x0-0x110110].com.transgaming.EVEOnline 2008-04-17 08:15:04.632 cider[1248:5a0b] *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInternalInconsistencyException', reason: 'Error (1000) creating CGSWindow'

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Beann Loant
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.04.17 10:32:00 -
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After Trinity 1.1 the client seems much more stable, to the point that I reenabled sound to see if the game is playable.
My top issues currently are: 1. The client is a huge resource hog even when minimized. Actually, there doesn't seem to be much drop in CPU use when the client is minimized. Add to that the fact that due to some bad coding (busyloops?) in certain areas of the game (login screen, in station) just running the client makes system graphics jumpy and you get a system that's hardly usable with the client running in the background. To see what I mean, run the client, enter login screen or character selection, command-tab to desktop and check out the Dock zoom effect. Also, think of the heat.
2. FPS is drastically lower on the OS X client. I get 50-80 FPS in space with Classic under Windows, and 15-30 on OS X.
Now I agree my system (1st gen MacBook Pro, 2 GB RAM) isn't top notch, but it should well be able to run the Classic client without any major side effects. With performance like that, I can't even imagine how the Premium version would run  |

Blackfog
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:27:00 -
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Please CCP. We need help- We also need a little bit more feedback!
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CCP Casqade

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Posted - 2008.04.17 22:00:00 -
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Hi
People that are experiencing the "Black Screen on Boot" issue. Please bug report. We are looking into the issues but we need more information. |
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Astatine Eightyfive
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Posted - 2008.04.18 05:09:00 -
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another person with an issue here, bug report sent in... |

Vengeance Raze
LFC Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.18 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 18/04/2008 06:50:10
Originally by: Jane Pendleton Submitted a bug report for this. Apparently they have decided that they're not supporting the Macbook Air anymore, and the new patch breaks the client for the Air. Which is very annoying, since I've been playing on the Air for the past month without a problem (yes, it's slow, but you can play).
Is this confirmed? Pretty crap tbh if its true, considering I have an Air and what I love about it is the ability to log into EVE at work and do skill changes and logistic runs.
CCP - please don't suddenly decide "oh its not working on that system, so we can't be arsed anymore. Its not supported..."
P.s. getting the black screen error too. Sending report. |
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