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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.04.16 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: goodby4u on 16/04/2008 22:21:50
Originally by: pwnedgato Star Wars has the resources of an ENTIRE GALAXY rather than the bare handful of systems the EvE empires have access to.
I believe if its eve vs starwars it would be something along the lines of an allience between all 4 races vs the rebels(lol)and the empire.
Oh and if it was only oh say BOB vs the empire it would still be a tossup because eve calls primaries...stardestroyers shoot....Everywhere....Alot.
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Bad Borris
Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 22:22:00 -
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I wonder what the tracking would be on the death star... Upon release on eve (hypothetically speaking ya ) it would probably be able to wtf pwn a 6k/sec ceptor but would then get gimped down so that it needed 6 target painters and ten tracking computers to scratch a hull tanked domi.
Once fully ambulated our poker playing eve toons would get gang banged by light-saber wielding jedis 
In the end though, nano-faggotry would win it for eve. There is no way in hell that an x-wing gonna touch a vagtabond or sacrelidge. Although it would be a close fight between the macharial and the millenium falcon my isk would be on the mach.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.16 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato Then they use centerpoint to make the star in that system go nova. Or they could just build a quasar station which is sorta like a deathstar in that it is moon sized, but instead of 1 big gun it has 10 smaller guns each of which could 1 shot a titan/SSD. Along with 10 wings of TIEs and such.
1. EVE has sensors that allow us to observe data faster than light. Sun exploding? Warp out. 2. Avoid quasar station.  ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |

pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.04.16 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 16/04/2008 22:21:50
Originally by: pwnedgato Star Wars has the resources of an ENTIRE GALAXY rather than the bare handful of systems the EvE empires have access to.
I believe if its eve vs starwars it would be something along the lines of an allience between all 4 races vs the rebels(lol)and the empire.
Oh and if it was only oh say BOB vs the empire it would still be a tossup because eve calls primaries...stardestroyers shoot....Everywhere....Alot.
The entirety of EvE is much smaller than a galaxy... |

goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.04.16 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato
Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 16/04/2008 22:21:50
Originally by: pwnedgato Star Wars has the resources of an ENTIRE GALAXY rather than the bare handful of systems the EvE empires have access to.
I believe if its eve vs starwars it would be something along the lines of an allience between all 4 races vs the rebels(lol)and the empire.
Oh and if it was only oh say BOB vs the empire it would still be a tossup because eve calls primaries...stardestroyers shoot....Everywhere....Alot.
The entirety of EvE is much smaller than a galaxy...
...You understand that eve is a galaxy? |

Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.16 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: pwnedgato
Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 16/04/2008 22:21:50
Originally by: pwnedgato Star Wars has the resources of an ENTIRE GALAXY rather than the bare handful of systems the EvE empires have access to.
I believe if its eve vs starwars it would be something along the lines of an allience between all 4 races vs the rebels(lol)and the empire.
Oh and if it was only oh say BOB vs the empire it would still be a tossup because eve calls primaries...stardestroyers shoot....Everywhere....Alot.
The entirety of EvE is much smaller than a galaxy...
...You understand that eve is a galaxy?
EVE is a star cluster, which is different than a Spiral galaxy. I don't know if we've explored it in it's entirety, but it is definitely a lot smaller than the Milky Way galaxy - though it may be part of it, we don't really know. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |

Havok Dryke
Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.04.16 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Gabber359
Originally by: Verital
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Verital I'd leave the Death Star out of the argument since, lets be realistic, thats just not fair! Its basically a point + click solution to any caps or supercaps that EVE brings to the fight.
Yeah, right up until you warped the fleet behind it. You know, the 90% of it's hull that doesn't have a super-laser mounted on it. 
Good point. But then it's still not harmless. Still has those fighter batallions, small turrets.
And if we remove that annoying and unrealistic 1-missile-in-the-exhaust-pipe-and-it-blows-up thing I'd imagine that it's effective HP would be absolutely staggering 
----->It is also protected by 10,000 turbolaser batteries, 2,600 ion cannons, and at least 768 tractor beam projectors
You understand that the the turbolasers are anti-capital ship weapons, right? Same goes for the ion cannons. Also, the Empire have Interdictors aswell. Gl warping anywhere :)
1.Warp your Titan (an Avatar) and a sizable support fleet (enough to convince them you mean business) 100-200KM from the enemy Star Destroyer fleet, preferably between said fleet and the Death Star so TIE fighters launched from each would arrive at approximately the same time. 2. Once the TIE fighters are actively engaging your support fleet (which is tanked against EM/Thermal, lasers and all), fire off the DDD - this will annihilate the fighters and cripple most of the Star Destroyers. It will also probably have a MASSIVE effect against the Death Star because it will absorb over 30% of the TOTAL FORCE generated by the DDD. 3. Mop up remaining fleet while making sure any defenses located on the surface of the Death Star (assuming it's outer armor survived the DDD) are taken care of by the support fleet. 4. Focus fire on a specific point of the Death Star so you literally carve a hole as deep as you can into the superstructure while waiting for the DDD to recharge 5. Navigate the titan as close as possible to the hole blasted into the Death Star 6. Fire DDD again, watch the imperial moon shatter like a frozen gumball dropped off a roof.

I could see this work 
But Crash and exotic dancers would likely be cheaper. ------------------------------
EVE is a cold, harsh world, filled with people that would kill you without a second thought. The forums are even worse.
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.04.16 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: goodby4u on 16/04/2008 23:41:00
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: pwnedgato
Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 16/04/2008 22:21:50
Originally by: pwnedgato Star Wars has the resources of an ENTIRE GALAXY rather than the bare handful of systems the EvE empires have access to.
I believe if its eve vs starwars it would be something along the lines of an allience between all 4 races vs the rebels(lol)and the empire.
Oh and if it was only oh say BOB vs the empire it would still be a tossup because eve calls primaries...stardestroyers shoot....Everywhere....Alot.
The entirety of EvE is much smaller than a galaxy...
...You understand that eve is a galaxy?
EVE is a star cluster, which is different than a Spiral galaxy. I don't know if we've explored it in it's entirety, but it is definitely a lot smaller than the Milky Way galaxy - though it may be part of it, we don't really know.
Well I think its an entire galaxy, the only difference between the eve galaxy vs the star wars galaxy is the shape(which doesnt matter for galaxies, they have different shapes)and the fact that there are only 5000 seeable stars, but the only stars that are on the list(bar jove space)are solarsystems that have stargates leading to them, which to me makes sense because why would any empire spend the resources on a stargate to a place where only 1 or 2 stars dwell and some random dust...
Another words in the eve galaxy we have 5000 or so solarsystems, which can mean its a galaxy, and an unknown amount of stars.
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.04.16 23:53:00 -
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5000 systems = not that much compared to even 1 arm of a galaxy.
Originally by: Crumplecorn These is a forum for this.
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.04.16 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato 5000 systems = not that much compared to even 1 arm of a galaxy.
.....And how many systems are in the milky way?(believe it or not im new to the astronomy craze).
Also, the rocks in eve regenerate every 24 hours, in star wars they dont.
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.04.17 00:04:00 -
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Edited by: pwnedgato on 17/04/2008 00:04:36 Someone who knows much more about astronomy than I oughta stroll through this thread at some point. Any detailed info I'd give you would just be yanked off a wiki.
Originally by: Crumplecorn These is a forum for this.
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.04.17 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato Edited by: pwnedgato on 17/04/2008 00:04:36 Someone who knows much more about astronomy than I oughta stroll through this thread at some point. Any detailed info I'd give you would just be yanked off a wiki.
Yes I just read wiki...
Anyways if I remember the backstory correctly the place we're in was referred to as the eve galaxy which means it is a galaxy we just havent advanced to the out edges yet....
Also it would be kinda hard to put 10 million stars on aswell as alot of systems on a server.
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Titan Pilot
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Posted - 2008.04.17 04:29:00 -
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EVE Cluster couldnt handle the battle. Force is too strong for this one.
1v1 Hano Solo > EVE *nuff said
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Constantine Arcanum
IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2008.04.17 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Uzuness
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Uzuness
Originally by: Kyanzes Edited by: Kyanzes on 16/04/2008 18:02:09
Originally by: Forum Alt
- No titan class ships
The Death Star would probably pwn any EVE fleet.
Also, if the Imperial fleet arrived with Sith combat meditation support that would further shift the balance significantly. OMFG... combat meditation... OMFG I'm such a loser that I even know about that. I've basically wasted a large portion of my life 
Have you seen Lord Vader's flag ship? Things like a titan.. only more evil.
the executioner, I think that's what it was called. it is as big as a titan? maybe not that big more like a mothership.
but even then lol. the deathstar would pWn any fleet...
but your overlooking the fact that a single fighter can take down the deathstar and everyone knows it's weakness.
Yeah, that's very true. So.. one little frig could sneak past the defense and blow the whole thing up. Silly Lucas..
And this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor
But frigs are the size of airliners, It'd have to be Fighter drones.  |

Constantine Arcanum
IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2008.04.17 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato 5000 systems = not that much compared to even 1 arm of a galaxy.
.....And how many systems are in the milky way?(believe it or not im new to the astronomy craze).
Also, the rocks in eve regenerate every 24 hours, in star wars they dont.
I'm no astronomer, but I'd guess a few hundred million. |

Kyanzes
Amarr Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.04.17 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato Star Wars has the resources of an ENTIRE GALAXY rather than the bare handful of systems the EvE empires have access to.
Yeah, it's a Galactic Empire that spans across a sizeable portion of the galaxy. --------------------------------------------- GET TO THE CHOPPA!!! The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. |

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.04.17 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato 5000 systems = not that much compared to even 1 arm of a galaxy.
These are the systems people have bothered to make stargates to, the majority of systems must not have been worth the effort and are therefor left uncharted.
As for the scenario, a long long time ago and 20000 years into the future, quite the mismatch.
These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade! |

Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.04.17 10:41:00 -
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What happens when Eve crashes the node the Imperial fleet is on?
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. |

Uzuness
Carebear Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.17 10:43:00 -
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Ya know.. Star Wars has Vader.. and he's a freakin pimp. Star Wars wins.
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TimGascoigne
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Posted - 2008.04.17 11:28:00 -
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You forgot to mention electronic warfare. EVE would ECM the entire Imperial fleet or trained at them all of energy or perform any kind of electronic attack.
Tho eve wins simply because the Imperial fleet will be immobilized. |
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Isobe Mitsu
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Posted - 2008.04.17 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lafe Star Wars has the Force! Nuff said.
Not nuff said! Star Wars also has light sabers "oooo light sabers!" and Yoda too! And um what else? Jawas! yeah those little hooded guys with glowing eyes. Nuff said now.
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Verital
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Posted - 2008.04.17 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u Well starwars wins with small fighters as they have pure numbers, plus their big ship(deathstar)pwns most big ships very fast....
However our titan has area of affect so we nullify any of their smaller ships whilst our medium to large sized ships are far too many for the deathstar to take out single handedly.
Another words, good fight but eve wins.
If all they threw at EVE is the Death Star 
I'm pretty sure that any Emperial fleet coming to EVE is going to consist of more than that!
And as for the concept of E-Warfare on them, anyone know how their computers work? Radar? Ladar? You need to know a little about how their guns and such are programmed in order to EW them, and having no contact with Star Wars before EVE will have no idea how to counter them.
I put my money on the Empire. Superior numbers, resources, and experience with taking over rebellious star systems 
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Phaige
Minmatar Reaver Construction Services
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Posted - 2008.04.17 16:24:00 -
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I would put my money on EVE winning. I mean, sure the Empire would send a sizable force that we theoretically would have no clue now to deal with, but war in EVE is economic.
Where in the blazes would they buy new ships? Build them themselves you say? Sure, when they can find the minerals. By the time they would be able to sustain their own mining/production/protecton ( bassically becoming an Empire all over again ) and replacing the fleet, they would be long obliterated by our seeming immortallity and in many cases nearly bottomless wells of ISK and ships  -----------------------------------------------
You may be a King or a little Street Sweeper, but sooner or later you dance wi' de' Reaper! |

goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.04.17 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: goodby4u on 17/04/2008 17:35:24 Edited by: goodby4u on 17/04/2008 17:32:59 Well starwars wins with small fighters as they have pure numbers, plus their big ship(deathstar)pwns most big ships very fast....
However our titan has area of affect so we nullify any of their smaller ships whilst our medium to large sized ships are far too many for the deathstar to take out single handedly.
Another words, good fight but eve wins.
If all they threw at EVE is the Death Star 
I'm pretty sure that any Emperial fleet coming to EVE is going to consist of more than that!
And as for the concept of E-Warfare on them, anyone know how their computers work? Radar? Ladar? You need to know a little about how their guns and such are programmed in order to EW them, and having no contact with Star Wars before EVE will have no idea how to counter them.
I put my money on the Empire. Superior numbers, resources, and experience with taking over rebellious star systems  Have you eve seen the picture of iron tide?Yeah...The imperial fleet wouldnt hold a candle to it. And thats just amarr... |

Seeley Boothe
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Posted - 2008.04.17 18:17:00 -
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Can we as EVE not go and take their Empire then? Jumping into an Imperial gate camp would be just full of win!
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Uzuness
Carebear Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.17 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Uzuness on 17/04/2008 19:17:00 Gentlemen.. I think you're all forgetting The Empires secret weapon:
http://www.leiasmetalbikini.com/members/whatsnew.html |

Havok Dryke
Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Uzuness Edited by: Uzuness on 17/04/2008 19:17:00 Gentlemen.. I think you're all forgetting The Empires secret weapon:
http://www.leiasmetalbikini.com/members/whatsnew.html
EVE counters with exotic dancers! ------------------------------
EVE is a cold, harsh world, filled with people that would kill you without a second thought. The forums are even worse.
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Yakoff
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: pwnedgato 5000 systems = not that much compared to even 1 arm of a galaxy.
.....And how many systems are in the milky way?(believe it or not im new to the astronomy craze).
Also, the rocks in eve regenerate every 24 hours, in star wars they dont.
Yea, but in Star Wars, the rocks do bite - or just try to digest you at the very least. |

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Patch86 on 17/04/2008 21:29:28 Deathstar shmeathstar...
We saw 2 Deathstars in the Star Wars Trilogy- the first is blown up when a desert farm-boy who has never flown in combat before one-shot-kills it, the second is blown up (as soon as the shields are dropped by some teddy bears) by a cargo ship piloted by a compulsive gambler. Deathstars were basically the Millennium Dome of the Star Wars universe...
Not thinking EVE has much to worry about on that front. |

Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:44:00 -
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There's the fact that the vast majority of weapons in star wars are lasers. Like, almost all of them.
EVE has EM/Therm hardeners.
(also for reference a star destroyer is about 1.5-2x as long as a battleship, varying by race. The Apoc is almost as large as a star destroyer) |
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