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HenkieBoy
Enrave Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.04.16 21:20:00 -
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Well... I don't know how long EVE will last, but I do know the EVE players share a fairly unique MMO and will get into the same new MMO if its a bit like EVE.. |
Doonoo Boonoo
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.04.16 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Or Well ....but with how upset CCP has made a large portion of their player base recently I would be a fool if I didn't have my own set of doubts.
Huh?Watchootalkinboutorwell?
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Havok Dryke
Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.04.16 21:23:00 -
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Longer than this thread, that's for sure. |
Pyr3x
Gallente TiS Industries Ursa Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.04.16 21:38:00 -
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But..... I just started playing EVE..... I don't want it to go away now... Personally if they just keep expanding and coming up with new ideas and even designing a whole new engine for eve it will last forever because no matter how old some pilots are or whatever I think people will still come to eve. Just like trinity appealed to so many new people, simply because it got a graphics buff! See it's simple to keep the game going. Just keep it on top of current technology and people will play. I also feel that the classic client should just die, seriously all it does is hold the game back. I feel most of you should let the game grow by letting the classic client go. Upgrade your pc.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.16 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Guillame Herschel Please do not spam. ~Saint
One post is not spam, hon.
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Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information
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Posted - 2008.04.16 21:45:00 -
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IMO .. Long enough .. that saying that the MMO genre is here to stay, so the rumours of EvE's demise will occur when; - There is a satisfactory (or better) replacement. At that time, given the conditions for satisfaction, it won't matter to the players, 'cause they'll be happy with the new game. - (or) CCP go down in flames/decide not to continue. Which I'd dare say is dependent on how successful world of darkness online (slated release 2010) is going to be. On that note: www.WOD-Online just doesn't sound a gripping to me.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.04.16 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Edited by: Chribba on 16/04/2008 20:16:16 As long as there is Veldspar - there is Chribba.
I'll be here the day TQ shuts down for good. Watching the shutdown timer crawl to a zero.
Unless something out of my control happens, i will be around too watching the countdown. Not mining though. |
Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.04.16 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 16/04/2008 21:53:05 Edited by: Amastat on 16/04/2008 21:51:32
Originally by: Doonoo Boonoo
Originally by: Or Well ....but with how upset CCP has made a large portion of their player base recently I would be a fool if I didn't have my own set of doubts.
Huh?Watchootalkinboutorwell?
I would like to see the source of that claim :P I want to see how many people, a list.
It's a large game - no one person who plays is the same. If there is a change that favors one player, there will always be another who dosn't like the change. It's a law of the universe that nothing is 100% efficent - it also applies online games like EVE.
I think that a few people moan here and there on the same forum, and its probably just a small group of active forums trolls and critics who constantly repeat the same crap over and over and over and over and over and it's talked about constantly. A lot of players rarely even use the forums that much and only ever use it as a resources, so basing claims that the large majority of EVE players are ****ed with the game, off a portion of the forums, is flawed and will never be remotly accurate.
I'm sure there is a group that is dissatisfied - every community has one - but I fail to believe that the majority of EVE is ****ed with the game. Prove it.
But, as I was saying - I'd like to see the survey of EVE's subscribers that says everyones ****ed and on the verge of canceling subscriptions. If not, be quit Simon wannabes 8)
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Simon gives your forum trolls against CCP a F for failure. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.16 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Or Well
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Or Well 1 year? Or 2-3? Everyone has their own opinion so I hope this thread can be a place where everyone can share theirs with everyone else. I personally think Jove will become a playable race when member count is in decline two years from now as a last ditch effort by CCP to keep people interested. Don't get me wrong, I hope EVE keeps going until 2020 and then some, but with how upset CCP has made a large portion of their player base recently I would be a fool if I didn't have my own set of doubts.
So which one are you complaining about? Did the RMT ISK you bought get confiscated, or was your hulk ganked in hi-sec, or what? I'm guessing this obvious troll is obvious post is RMT related... but that's just a guess.
Big guess. I was just throwing the question out there, nothing happened to me and no wrong was done or anything like that. No need to flame pre-emptively.
Maybe the gain on my whinedetectorÖ is turned a little high. In that case I apologise. Too many people on this forum lately remind me of that type of girlfriend who, as soon as she gets someone she likes, embarks on a relentless campaign to change him. |
Talkuth Rel
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.16 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: InSession
The people who post on the forum are only a minute portion of the actual player base of Eve. Also if you notice it's the same group of people whining about how EVE sucks. I'll keep playing as long as it entertains me.
Careful there, that's the mistake SOE made, believeing they could safely ignore the forum complaints as a "vocal minority," and look where it got them.
Not to say that EVE is in any state remotely like what SWG was, just cautioning against what in the past has proven to be a dangerous and faulty presumption.
Sure, CCP has made moves that some players have disagreed with, and they've had some problems with scandal in the past, but overall they have done fairly well. As long as they can continue to grow the content and update the graphics without making major changes to the game itself, and do so while making a profit, then they game has the potential to continue indefinetely. If they run out of ways to add new content, player growth will stagnate, and those who have "been there, done that" will leave out of boredom. But as long as they can continue to raise the ceiling or push out the walls without making changes so drastic as to alienate the playerbase, the game will continue to prosper.
I think the issue that may put a limit on the game's lifespan is the inherent gap between new and veteran players. It presents a major dilemna for future development. As it stands, the gap continually increases. In the past, CCP has raised the starting SP for new players, but they can't do this indefinitely, or eventually new characters will start in battleships. Likewise if they were to put a cap on SP or stop creating new skills so that new players could catch up, older players who reach the limit would grow bored. Currently, the gap is not so great as to be a major hindrance, but conceivably, it has the potential if not handled properly in the future to grow to proportions so great that the game gains a reputation as being impossible for new players to get a foothold in. If that happens, the subscription base will cease growing and likely shrink, the game would become unprofitable, and be shut down.
Of course, this would take several more years to run its course, and there's plenty of time to design and implement solutions, for both this or any other long term hurdles EVE may face. The potential lifespan really depends largely on how the game's growth is handled. If done correctly, it may be that we'll be dead and buried, and will have willed our characters to relatives, long before EVE shuts down.
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.04.16 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Talkuth Rel
Originally by: InSession
The people who post on the forum are only a minute portion of the actual player base of Eve. Also if you notice it's the same group of people whining about how EVE sucks. I'll keep playing as long as it entertains me.
Careful there, that's the mistake SOE made, believeing they could safely ignore the forum complaints as a "vocal minority," and look where it got...
I don't speak for CCP, but if I were in their position I personally would find it very hard to not ignore the vocal minority when half of what they say is just excessive whining, complaining, and nonsense, and some of it cannot really be helped. Especially when they repeat it over and over and over and have nothing better to do by flame me for working my ass to provide them the game they even subscribe for in the first place :)
You cannot have a discussion with insanity.
I do agree that a good MMO does not ignore the player base though, if they plan to last longer then a year - however I completely disagree with those who claim that everyone is ****ed with EVE, the game is going to die, and everyones going to cancel their subscriptions soon. I cannot stress how much those words, who knows why it is even uttered, that come out of some trollers mouths is worthless pitiful whiner crap.
Until I have a proof survey of the opinions of more then 40% of the multiple thousand active subscribers proving that at least 25% thinks the game needs serious work, everything the Simon copies say is unsupported, lame, crap and nonsense. Critics support their arguments, and a good critic does it well. A critical statement with absolutely no supporting fact is what one calls absolute worthless crap.
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Simon says that flaming CCP just for the sake of complaining is absolute crap. |
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.04.17 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda until December 25, 2012
Not sure Santa Claus grants those sorts of requests Mitnal, Community Representative
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Radcjk
Caldari Dark Star LTD Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.04.17 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Or Well 1 year? Or 2-3? Everyone has their own opinion so I hope this thread can be a place where everyone can share theirs with everyone else. I personally think Jove will become a playable race when member count is in decline two years from now as a last ditch effort by CCP to keep people interested. Don't get me wrong, I hope EVE keeps going until 2020 and then some, but with how upset CCP has made a large portion of their player base recently I would be a fool if I didn't have my own set of doubts.
Thery key word is vocal minority. Most players really aren't that ****ed off at eve / ccp.
Just the same forum trolling eve-math****s with not enough else to do then qoute numbers, ***** about code, and make graph charts on ammo types and their relation to pvp or pve.
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sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.17 02:28:00 -
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its gonna keep going till a better spaceship pvp game comes out and even then it might survive. |
Ruri
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Posted - 2008.04.17 04:36:00 -
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some of you say Eve will die when a better spaceship game comes out in a mmo format.
I disagree strongly with that statment, I think what eve will have to do at that stage is compete for new players, but I've just hit 20ish million (not entirely sure not on eve at the moment) and its going to take a lot for me to suddenly decided to completely quit eve and go else where.
I might put this acct into a semi afk and log on to change skills while playing other games for a month or 2 at the most, but I keep coming back.
I bet a lot of other people will too, close the acct or semi afk for a month or 2 to try other games but come back to eve.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.04.17 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Chribba Edited by: Chribba on 16/04/2008 20:16:16 As long as there is Veldspar - there is Chribba.
I'll be here the day TQ shuts down for good. Watching the shutdown timer crawl to a zero.
if that day comes I would be honored to be able to sit in the same belt and mine the final veldspar, or in a lowsec pocket somewhere, as i may stay till the end
Don't beleive him Chribba! He'll setup a login trap so they can claim the last Dread kill of the game.
because by then concord will blow your ship up before you even press f1
and I hope to be in IDLE GUNS to that day |
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.04.17 04:57:00 -
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I used to think I'd never leave DAoC but I did. Of course that's because the opportunities for level-capped players sucked if you weren't going to RvR or group epic quest all day. Screw that noise. So based on that, I'd say I'll stick with Eve until the end game gets boring. The end game. Of Eve. |
Dark Hessian
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Posted - 2008.04.17 05:21:00 -
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Judging by what I see eve is not likely to last a year. Just my opinion. |
El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.17 05:29:00 -
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It has potential to last another decade. However to reach that potential some of the game flaws must be addressed. Unless they can be addressed it will probably enter decline in the next 2 years, but will last for several years after that. |
Tai Paktu
Mortis Incarnatus
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Posted - 2008.04.17 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Edited by: Chribba on 16/04/2008 20:16:16 I'll be here the day TQ shuts down for good. Watching the shutdown timer crawl to a zero.
QFFT. |
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.04.17 05:40:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 17/04/2008 05:41:15
Originally by: Ruri some of you say Eve will die when a better spaceship game comes out in a mmo format.
I disagree strongly with that statment, I think what eve will have to do at that stage is compete for new players, but I've just hit 20ish million (not entirely sure not on eve at the moment) and its going to take a lot for me to suddenly decided to completely quit eve and go else where.
I might put this acct into a semi afk and log on to change skills while playing other games for a month or 2 at the most, but I keep coming back.
I bet a lot of other people will too, close the acct or semi afk for a month or 2 to try other games but come back to eve.
I couldn't agree more with you Ruri. And - even if another game did arise - I have no reason to believe that CCP will not be capable of competing with them and keeping the other game from taking over its part of the MMO Sci-Fi Industry.
And whoever said the game will not last a year must be drunk or a noob.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Simon gives Dark Hessian a F for trolling and a A+ for ignorance. |
sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.17 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Hessian Judging by what I see eve is not likely to last a year. Just my opinion.
you obviousally don'nt see alot then :)
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Neodome
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Posted - 2008.04.17 06:05:00 -
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I think the game will go on and on and on just like a duracell bunny
As for people beeing upset on the forums I think its a way to blow off some steam, as players most likely do love the game |
Florio
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.17 06:20:00 -
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EVE is a product owned by CCP, a commercial business.
The owners of a successful business make most of their money from the sale of that business.
So EVE may crumble and falter whenever CCP or the game itself is sold, if that happens.
For myself, I would like to see the game eventually expanded so that we have an even more complete virtual world rather than 'just' a virtual market, resource, political, empire-building and spaceship game. |
Elona King
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.17 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda until December 25, 2012
Actually it's 23 DEC, isn't it?
Quote:
Yay! on my 36th birthday! |
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.04.17 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Elona King
Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda until December 25, 2012
Actually it's 23 DEC, isn't it?
Quote:
Yay! on my 36th birthday!
No the 256th K'atun ends on Dec 21st 2012.... |
DORIAN GRACE
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Posted - 2008.04.17 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron would CCP still provide EVE game service if world war 3 broke out?
maybe mothball the database and wait for better times, or start fresh?
If so train a long skill |
Kevrlet
Gallente Knighthawk Light Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.17 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Edited by: Chribba on 16/04/2008 20:16:16 As long as there is Veldspar - there is Chribba.
I'll be here the day TQ shuts down for good. Watching the shutdown timer crawl to a zero.
And I'll be sitting to your Veldnaught in my Orca, watching that same timer crawl to a zero. And when it hits '20' I'll launch my drones at your infamous ship in a last blaze of glory and watch as I explode. Hopefully by then Concord will still be strong enough to drop a ship in mere seconds or I'll miss the explosion! |
Deaell Portt
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.04.17 07:28:00 -
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To end of world and one day longer. |
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.04.17 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mecinia Lua
Originally by: Elona King
Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Tidas Andrommeda until December 25, 2012
Actually it's 23 DEC, isn't it?
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Yay! on my 36th birthday!
No the 256th K'atun ends on Dec 21st 2012....
It's the winter solstice of that year, whether it happens to fall on the 22nd or 23rd. But regardless, the whole thing depends on a severely selective interpretation of the Mayan long count calendar, and basically every academic Mayanist says that "no, it does not mean the actual end of either humanity or of the world in general". |
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