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Spyzor4twinzor Gallente Spyzor4twinzor Corp	Posted - 2008.04.20 09:13:00 - [1] ATTENTION-ATTENTION-ATTENTION Well since Insurgency likes to be the spin monster here is some great news from there leadership: Ok this is the big one lads, with the help of some friends we will be attacking some enemy capital systems in the heart of their territory. i have left posting this op untill the last moment for obvious reasons.. the whole idea was always trying to commit enemy forces. exact plans were worked out with allied leaders last week and iv been itching to tell ya.. evil grin. everything is going as expected so far. ideally we will contain the enemy while our friends go to work, if the fall back we will hit them all at same time with the largest capital fleet ever seen in eve. this will be an easy 300 man cap fleet with 300 bs. OP DETAILS MONDAY 21ST 18.00 EVE TIME iF U HAVE A CAPITAL BE IN IT.. BS after that. we will need all capitals fueled and rdy to attack. its HUGELY IMPORTANT that we have as many ppl online over the next few days to keep our enemy occupided to hold them here as long as possible. be online, get in gangs [SEX-GOD]darth solo Then the other great motivational pos by the fearless leader: [SEX-GOD]darth solo Head of the Alliance Post subject: MASSIVE THINGS PLANNED OVER NEXT FEW DAYS Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:13 am Posts: 1596 Your commanders have been working on plans and we have sum very nice ones, the only problem we have is YOUR activity. we need every single member of INSRG online over the next while especially . the battles will be amazing and put the ZK one in the shade. Chances of serious cap kills and i inc a certain titan in that. we are now not alone . things are looking very good. the enemies numbers will fall, ours will grow. i wont threaten u with kicking and stuff because u all know the situation..... ill just threaten you with FUN... all main commanders will be on today and tonight.. they have been instructed to be online over the next few weeks.. as long as it takes for total victory. i wont give u times for form ups, i wont say all be there on a certain day, because each time u log in something will be happening. personally ill never give in and i never lose, whos with me?. Then you have a really nice leadership discussion about how Tri is going to let them take over Branch so they can use Branch as a launch point to kill the guys Insurgency likes to refer to as the whipping boys of Tri, ôSmash/Roadkillö. Following information follows: [SEX-GOD]darth solo Head of the Alliance Hey I have spoken with Darkness and they want us to take over branch, great news for us, since the great napyfags of the north want to gang bang us. I believe they are on board for he op on Monday. They want to use our space to attack there eve whipping boys Smashkill. The feel they are ripe for the picking so this would be great for us. Then you have the down side of Insurgency membership, they chestbeat and talk crap everywhere else but on their own forums. Nice tasty info here: [Helios] Girly girl I have noticed that a lot of people including me are starting to have heavy BS losses as our campaign progresses and as far as I know the alliance BS production (Tusal) has not been available for many days now. I was heavily stocked on BS but soon I will be running out. I have lost 4 Tempests since sunday and I still have one left to fight with, after that I'm fighting in as Hurricane antisupport. I've heard lots of other people are having problems with their BS stock too so I'm just wondering if people have suggestions and solutions to fix this problem? [NPHM]Zansatsja ./signed [WEDIE] Fear Not Yeah I'm noticing this atm. Moving BS production to QCW would make a massive difference, if at all possible. Ap0ll0n I can sign that. Im in desperate need of rokh¦s, but there is a massive lack of ships in general. -MORE TO FOLLOW-
Spyzor4twinzor Gallente Spyzor4twinzor Corp	Posted - 2008.04.20 09:14:00 - [2] [MBYTE] Nolan Dempsey Typically this is handled at a corporate level but for the war I think we need to do it an alliance level. We really need to sort what can/should be produced with what facilities we have and what facilities we can setup. Our carrier pilots can try and pick up the slack with carrier runs. Bringing in anything smaller than a Battleship is pretty easy, and even some like the Tempest you can fit two with some spare room. Hence the reason we might focus production on ships like the Rokh and Megathron that aren't so easily jumped as the Tempest. [RCON] Aaron Mirrorsaver yes its a problem, support ships is a problem too. the thing is with carriers on standby sitting in a pos most of the time, its hard to get logistics done, especially for euro, the u,s people might have it easier, but then we have to rep poses/ services at night instead of logistics, everybody cant go off and do their own logistics or nothing will get repaired. we cant stop our carriers sitting on standby in qcw or z-k because there tipping the balance as we are out numbered, so they are there to protect the cyno jammers should a hostile bs fleet make a go or a number of goes for them. need to get a large pos or more setup in qcw maybe for pure bs production. [MBYTE] Nolan Dempsey We need the capitals on standby and we can't be stupid and give our enemies an easy opportunity to gank us at a midpoint or in empire. That being said, we need to keep earning ISK and moving/creating/mining supplies where we can. Maybe this whole war becomes a lot easier in a few days if we really do have friends showing up, or if Razor realizes just how futile this is. Otherwise it's going to be long and drawn out and we need to do what we can for those that are losing ships and need replacements, or ISK to buy them. Wow, considering that Insurgency has lost over 25 bill in Capitals, including 2 Rorquals. It seems that it gets even worse on the forums. They seem to be a huge fight between the Euros and US tz, with reference of the Euros being to busy playing ôHello Kitty Onlineö. Or this: [CELES] Felysta was also pretty damn upset about the lack of capitals... I was looking forward to a massive capital fight against their titans, but obviously some people don't want that... That's cool too, I just wish those people would join a different alliance (ie not a large 0.0 pvp alliance). Nice work with the prize draw, I'd like to say I hope to win, but that'll never happen! That would involve losing caps... somethign that we just aren't gonna do. [GAME] Agmar (Fleet Commander) And if tonight, they bring 30 caps, and I have 15, we are jumping. Why? Because we are better than them. Seems Us is forgetting that IF something happens, it's 24.00-01.00 for the euro's, like last night i have been standing at a pos for 3 hours easely. [LFC] Lara renquist Little note to high command... SPEAK INFO!! the 3-4 hours the bs fleet was at the Z-K pos we heard absolutely nothing from you guys exept, no we cant go not enough numbers. This is very demoralizing. In closing it seems Insurgency has no fittings on any of there stations, no clone services, and there FCÆs think shooting station services is a tactical failure. The leadership in conversations are looking forward to the much need help from Tri, so they can help them bring the *****train to kill Smash/Kill. Oh they consider themselves as the 3rd most powerful PVP alliance in the game.
flakeys Manu Armata	Posted - 2008.04.20 09:20:00 - [3] We got the TRI post.. the PA one and now this. Sunday drama-day ?
Kaleeb Gods Unwanted Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.20 09:23:00 - [4] Heh Darth's punctuation hasn't improved since I left Don't think this changes much for Insrg because they know they have spies and would be expecting a leak at sometime. Just a shame you have to ruin what looks like a good op by posting it on the forums.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.20 09:28:00 - [5] You missed the "Branch is RZR's Vietnam" post. That one was the best of Darths hilarious posts from thursday. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Fedaykin Naib Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.20 09:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Fred0 You missed the "Branch is RZR's Vietnam" post. That one was the best of Darths hilarious posts from thursday. You should here him say it! It's AWESOME! "Long Live the Fighters!"
NokNok D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.20 09:44:00 - [7] Quote: this will be an easy 300 man cap fleet with 300 bs. Hmm I thought Caod already said we were gonna attack Bruce on monday :( I guess we didn't get the memo.
Alekseyev Karrde Noir.	Posted - 2008.04.20 12:22:00 - [8] Insurgency is ready to grab the brass ring they jumped for earlier this fall, but I dont think they're ready to hold onto it for long. Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
Spyzor4twinzor Gallente Spyzor4twinzor Corp	Posted - 2008.04.20 13:03:00 - [9] Edited by: Spyzor4twinzor on 20/04/2008 13:03:43 Gee they cant even keep there own stations load with gear, and if they do they put it up at 200%: The market in all of our space seems to be permanently empty. This creates a logistical problem that bleeds out to affect the alliance itself. Currently the corps in alliance are not contributing in the market. They keep their production to themselves or put sell/buy orders in this forum. This affects the alliance in the sense that it lowers our combat readiness and ability to react to any attacks or to prepare last-minute for any CTA or offensive... all because there is nothing in market to equip your ship with on a lastminute notice. Those few individuals that sell items in market do so are incredibly overpriced rates and that, regardless of how 'trader-like' it is, hurts all of us. Here's what I suggest: -Assign each corp a small list of items they must produce and keep market stocked with. Vital items like ammunition (all types T1, Faction), tackling modules, frigates (for tackling) can be built easily by any non-industrial corp and in large numbers. Industrial-leaned corporations can be assigned to supply jump fuel, battleships, cruisers, t2 ammo and t2 drones. -Each corp should have a player assigned as their market-master. This person is the one that takes the production assigned to their corp and places it on market. This will remove multiple entries for the same item and allows the prices to be kept at a rate set by the alliance (Read: not 500% overpriced). -People found placing overpriced items on market should be fined or booted. Selling a 10 mill ship for 20 mill is just war-profiteering. If the above is done we may see the day that our stations can each provide quick arms and ships for alliance even in the middle of a scramble order. As it is right now we have many players going out to fight in badly fitted ships or in ships they are not specialized in just because they didn't have time to build up their own stockpile or because they already lost it in combat. Planning for an Op is good, however it is the market that ensures a rapid response. [DKPR]Tac Ginaz
Felysta Sandorn Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.20 13:06:00 - [10] Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 20/04/2008 13:07:41 Latest Video, Click Here!
lead balloon Gallente Band of Sisters Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2008.04.20 13:13:00 - [11] Edited by: lead balloon on 20/04/2008 13:16:26 seems bob taught rzr and the nap train a few lessons in the south, inc Meta Gaming 101. that said im sure if you keep this up you will be bitten by it. perhaps a comms reset during an engagement? forums attacked? key leadership ip's blocked from comms servers and forums? be carefull what type of war you get into rzr spy.... as much as i dislike both parties here at least INSRG are proving they pvp in space not on other peoples forums. oh and for anyone who may be interested to actualy look at real pvp thats been taking place heres a few stats: the coalition of rzr+mates has lost 17 dreads, 5 carriers and 431 battleships. insrg has lost 7 dreads, 9 carriers and 218 battleships. insrg still holds sov in all its attacked systems. so before you start trying to put them down, look at the cold hard stats.
Koval Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.20 13:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor Edited by: Spyzor4twinzor on 20/04/2008 13:03:43 Gee they cant even keep there own stations load with gear, and if they do they put it up at 200%: The market in all of our space seems to be permanently empty. This creates a logistical problem that bleeds out to affect the alliance itself. Currently the corps in alliance are not contributing in the market. They keep their production to themselves or put sell/buy orders in this forum. This affects the alliance in the sense that it lowers our combat readiness and ability to react to any attacks or to prepare last-minute for any CTA or offensive... all because there is nothing in market to equip your ship with on a lastminute notice. Those few individuals that sell items in market do so are incredibly overpriced rates and that, regardless of how 'trader-like' it is, hurts all of us. Here's what I suggest: -Assign each corp a small list of items they must produce and keep market stocked with. Vital items like ammunition (all types T1, Faction), tackling modules, frigates (for tackling) can be built easily by any non-industrial corp and in large numbers. Industrial-leaned corporations can be assigned to supply jump fuel, battleships, cruisers, t2 ammo and t2 drones. -Each corp should have a player assigned as their market-master. This person is the one that takes the production assigned to their corp and places it on market. This will remove multiple entries for the same item and allows the prices to be kept at a rate set by the alliance (Read: not 500% overpriced). -People found placing overpriced items on market should be fined or booted. Selling a 10 mill ship for 20 mill is just war-profiteering. If the above is done we may see the day that our stations can each provide quick arms and ships for alliance even in the middle of a scramble order. As it is right now we have many players going out to fight in badly fitted ships or in ships they are not specialized in just because they didn't have time to build up their own stockpile or because they already lost it in combat. Planning for an Op is good, however it is the market that ensures a rapid response. [DKPR]Tac Ginaz signature = epic fail?
Spyzor4twinzor Gallente Spyzor4twinzor Corp	Posted - 2008.04.20 13:15:00 - [13] Originally by: lead balloon seems bob taught rzr and the nap train a few lessons in the south, inc Meta Gaming 101. that said im sure if you keep this up you will be bitten by it. perhaps a comms reset during an engagement? forums attacked? key leadership ip's blocked from comms servers and forums? be carefull what type of war you get into rzr spy.... as much as i dislike both parties here at least INSRG are proving they pvp in space not on other peoples forums. I am not a Rzrspyzor, I am a loyal member of Insurgency, I am tired of the lack of commitment we are getting from our leadership
lead balloon Gallente Band of Sisters Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2008.04.20 13:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor Originally by: lead balloon seems bob taught rzr and the nap train a few lessons in the south, inc Meta Gaming 101. that said im sure if you keep this up you will be bitten by it. perhaps a comms reset during an engagement? forums attacked? key leadership ip's blocked from comms servers and forums? be carefull what type of war you get into rzr spy.... as much as i dislike both parties here at least INSRG are proving they pvp in space not on other peoples forums. I am not a Rzrspyzor, I am a loyal member of Insurgency, I am tired of the lack of commitment we are getting from our leadership i doubt you will get anything from them by posting here, only increase your chances of losing ships and demoralizing your teammates. so epic fail for you sir.
Cenila Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.20 13:58:00 - [15] Edited by: Cenila on 20/04/2008 13:59:39 me being in kosovo means i am not that active ingame just reading forums and stuff. but must say this is one off the dumb things i seen on this forum. you must be a verry loyal member iff you are doing this. verry simpel doing this means you already have more trust from us than you are supposed to get. but its verry simpel whe off insurgency believe in the leadership, iff you realy dont my dear friend nobody tells you to stay. also need i to point out that whe came out on top when whe where heavy outnumberd en when everyone whas thinking whe gonna fail. whe earned our respect because whe fight whit respect. its realy normal to have spy's in an aliance its part off the game i think. but this will not mean that any insurgency member whill post stuff from other peeps there forums just to show off they are a spy. again its a respect thing. iff you are realy a member off insurgency you dont deserve the ticker because friend or enemy its still based on respect whit us. sorry to say m8 this means nothing. whe know whe have spy's en whe still fight its a game whe stand for fun en gameplay, en not trying to get somthing on the forum because lacking the skills ingame. realy sorry for the bad english i hope you all get my point. once again whe respect every player that stands against us. whe win or lose whe will try to get as much fun as whe can. see you all on the field again when i am back from kosovo.
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.20 14:07:00 - [16] Edited by: darth solo on 20/04/2008 14:09:33 INSRG do not post. d solo.
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.04.20 14:11:00 - [17] Originally by: Cenila Edited by: Cenila on 20/04/2008 13:59:39 me being in kosovo means i am not that active ingame just reading forums and stuff. but must say this is one off the dumb things i seen on this forum. you must be a verry loyal member iff you are doing this. verry simpel doing this means you already have more trust from us than you are supposed to get. but its verry simpel whe off insurgency believe in the leadership, iff you realy dont my dear friend nobody tells you to stay. also need i to point out that whe came out on top when whe where heavy outnumberd en when everyone whas thinking whe gonna fail. whe earned our respect because whe fight whit respect. its realy normal to have spy's in an aliance its part off the game i think. but this will not mean that any insurgency member whill post stuff from other peeps there forums just to show off they are a spy. again its a respect thing. iff you are realy a member off insurgency you dont deserve the ticker because friend or enemy its still based on respect whit us. sorry to say m8 this means nothing. whe know whe have spy's en whe still fight its a game whe stand for fun en gameplay, en not trying to get somthing on the forum because lacking the skills ingame. realy sorry for the bad english i hope you all get my point. once again whe respect every player that stands against us. whe win or lose whe will try to get as much fun as whe can. see you all on the field again when i am back from kosovo. the sad part is spy`s are part of the game
RagnarH Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.20 14:11:00 - [18] so, u managed to get in a insrg corp and get forum acces. Wow, u must be so proud, your mother must be calling all her friends to tell how u managed to infiltrate a whole ******* alliance forums. And your ancestor just turned around in their graves. I salute you my hero Can u teach me how to be cool like u ? ----------------------------------- Corp 1 Allstars - Chief of Operations For your termination of Lord Zap we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 15,817,032 ISK
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.04.20 14:14:00 - [19] Originally by: RagnarH so, u managed to get in a insrg corp and get forum acces. Wow, u must be so proud, your mother must be calling all her friends to tell how u managed to infiltrate a whole ******* alliance forums. And your ancestor just turned around in their graves. I salute you my hero Can u teach me how to be cool like u ? dan g
Spyzor4twinzor Gallente Spyzor4twinzor Corp	Posted - 2008.04.20 14:18:00 - [20] Maybe you should ask your Jump Frieghter pilot that just went boom, that spies have no affect on your alliance.
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.04.20 14:21:00 - [21] ha nice one Spyzor
Digicomm The Digital Communists	Posted - 2008.04.20 14:26:00 - [22] tldr; can someone sum it up? sup?
Enraged Mado Caldari Virulence. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.20 14:28:00 - [23] K. -------
Spike Spiegle Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.20 17:49:00 - [24] Originally by: lead balloon Edited by: lead balloon on 20/04/2008 13:16:26 seems bob taught rzr and the nap train a few lessons in the south, inc Meta Gaming 101. that said im sure if you keep this up you will be bitten by it. perhaps a comms reset during an engagement? forums attacked? key leadership ip's blocked from comms servers and forums? be carefull what type of war you get into rzr spy.... as much as i dislike both parties here at least INSRG are proving they pvp in space not on other peoples forums. oh and for anyone who may be interested to actualy look at real pvp thats been taking place heres a few stats: the coalition of rzr+mates has lost 17 dreads, 5 carriers and 431 battleships. insrg has lost 7 dreads, 9 carriers and 218 battleships. insrg still holds sov in all its attacked systems. so before you start trying to put them down, look at the cold hard stats. You do realise it takes 7 days for POS to count towards SOV? just wait a few days Oh and who cares about kill ratios if its less than a week and the enemy are already comlaining about to many losses?
Lisa Ikura New World Disorders	Posted - 2008.04.20 19:10:00 - [25] Originally by: darth solo Edited by: darth solo on 20/04/2008 14:09:33 INSRG do not post. d solo. any special reason that the only times INSRG is told not to post is when things are going bad?
Seth Quantix Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.20 19:15:00 - [26] Originally by: Lisa Ikura Originally by: darth solo Edited by: darth solo on 20/04/2008 14:09:33 INSRG do not post. d solo. any special reason that the only times INSRG is told not to post is when things are going bad? if it was true it would firstly be a good idea and secondly a good idea, third, dont every alliance do that? so wjat ya point?
Lisa Ikura New World Disorders	Posted - 2008.04.20 19:21:00 - [27] Originally by: Seth Quantix Originally by: Lisa Ikura Originally by: darth solo Edited by: darth solo on 20/04/2008 14:09:33 INSRG do not post. d solo. any special reason that the only times INSRG is told not to post is when things are going bad? if it was true it would firstly be a good idea and secondly a good idea, third, dont every alliance do that? so wjat ya point? probably that things must be going badly now then
Justin Morgan Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.20 19:34:00 - [28] Hi mom, im in a RAZOR spy thread o\/o
Ja La Red Ballz	Posted - 2008.04.20 20:14:00 - [29] Word of advise if you need to supply troops cut off from empire supplies. You need a very strong 0.0 market place to keep them stocked in BS & the various T2 Cruisers & Frigs , plus modules. Suggest you create a market outpost open to all of your Allies with cheap costs to buy , sell and produce. If you can get the minerals then make your own BS if you cant then do carrier fleet ops where the entire fleet is taking BS from Low -> 00. sec. if you have a very active war you need to do this no less then every other day to keep your market stocked. If needed NAP a very strong Merch Corp / Alliance who has the sole job of making a buck as they supply your war effort.
Spyzor4twinzor Gallente Spyzor4twinzor Corp	Posted - 2008.04.20 20:21:00 - [30] Quote: [SEX-GOD]darth solo Post subject: Capital payout loses suspendedPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:11 pm Head of the Alliance Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:13 am Posts: 1614 Untill we reactivate it.. the isk is needed to be used for something LARGE the now. A week ago darth solo said he'd pay for our capital losses "until he was out of isk." Looks like darth solo is out of isk, or perhaps he is trying to get some mercs to help us? Maybe... buy a titan? The real question is, though - will not paying for capital losses to get a titan or hire mercs really help us fix the poor morale and horrible leadership? Darth solo hoards high-end moon mins and stops supporting his alliance the second the isk is needed for a super-secret squirrel reason. I'll tell you the real reason - he doesn't want this war to hurt his personal wealth, while rest of us are relegated to flying T1 BC's in fleet because our alliance can't replace our BSs or caps. Enjoy the isk while you can, darth, because we are all sick of your greed. Nothing you can do will help us hold this space anymore, because you aren't going to have people willing to keep throwing ships at the enemy to protect your personal isk farm. Insurgency used to be about PVP - now its about recruiting every corp under the sun and then cowering in a corner of space waiting for the inevitable while darth is seen not more than 2 hours ago evacuating his assets. Way to lead, darth... way to lead.

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