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        |  Spyzor4twinzor
 Gallente
 Spyzor4twinzor Corp
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 09:13:00 -
          [1] 
 ATTENTION-ATTENTION-ATTENTION
 Well since Insurgency likes to be the spin monster here is some great news from there leadership:
 
 Ok this is the big one lads, with the help of some friends we will be attacking some enemy capital systems in the heart of their territory.
 
 i have left posting this op untill the last moment for obvious reasons.. the whole idea was always trying to commit enemy forces. exact plans were worked out with allied leaders last week and iv been itching to tell ya.. evil grin. everything is going as expected so far.
 
 ideally we will contain the enemy while our friends go to work, if the fall back we will hit them all at same time with the largest capital fleet ever seen in eve.
 
 this will be an easy 300 man cap fleet with 300 bs.
 
 
 OP DETAILS
 
 MONDAY 21ST
 18.00 EVE TIME
 
 iF U HAVE A CAPITAL BE IN IT.. BS after that. we will need all capitals fueled and rdy to attack.
 
 its HUGELY IMPORTANT that we have as many ppl online over the next few days to keep our enemy occupided to hold them here as long as possible.
 
 be online, get in gangs
 [SEX-GOD]darth solo
 
 Then the other great motivational pos by the fearless leader:
 
 [SEX-GOD]darth solo Head of the Alliance
 Post subject: MASSIVE THINGS PLANNED OVER NEXT FEW DAYS
 
 
 
 Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:13 am
 Posts: 1596
 
 Your commanders have been working on plans and we have sum very nice ones, the only problem we have is YOUR activity. we need every single member of INSRG online over the next while especially . the battles will be amazing and put the ZK one in the shade.
 
 Chances of serious cap kills and i inc a certain titan in that. we are now not alone . things are looking very good. the enemies numbers will fall, ours will grow.
 
 i wont threaten u with kicking and stuff because u all know the situation..... ill just threaten you with FUN... all main commanders will be on today and tonight.. they have been instructed to be online over the next few weeks.. as long as it takes for total victory.
 
 i wont give u times for form ups, i wont say all be there on a certain day, because each time u log in something will be happening.
 
 personally ill never give in and i never lose, whos with me?.
 
 Then you have a really nice leadership discussion about how Tri is going to let them take over Branch so they can use Branch as a launch point to kill the guys Insurgency likes to refer to as the whipping boys of Tri, ôSmash/Roadkillö. Following information follows:
 [SEX-GOD]darth solo Head of the Alliance
 Hey I have spoken with Darkness and they want us to take over branch, great news for us, since the great napyfags of the north want to gang bang us. I believe they are on board for he op on Monday. They want to use our space to attack there eve whipping boys Smashkill. The feel they are ripe for the picking so this would be great for us.
 
 Then you have the down side of Insurgency membership, they chestbeat and talk crap everywhere else but on their own forums. Nice tasty info here:
 
 [Helios] Girly girl
 I have noticed that a lot of people including me are starting to have heavy BS losses as our campaign progresses and as far as I know the alliance BS production (Tusal) has not been available for many days now.
 
 I was heavily stocked on BS but soon I will be running out. I have lost 4 Tempests since sunday and I still have one left to fight with, after that I'm fighting in as Hurricane antisupport.
 
 I've heard lots of other people are having problems with their BS stock too so I'm just wondering if people have suggestions and solutions to fix this problem?
 
 [NPHM]Zansatsja
 ./signed
 
 [WEDIE] Fear Not
 Yeah I'm noticing this atm. Moving BS production to QCW would make a massive difference, if at all possible.
 
 Ap0ll0n
 
 I can sign that. Im in desperate need of rokh¦s, but there is a massive lack of ships in general.
 
 -MORE TO FOLLOW-
 
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        |  Spyzor4twinzor
 Gallente
 Spyzor4twinzor Corp
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 09:14:00 -
          [2] 
 [MBYTE] Nolan Dempsey
 
 Typically this is handled at a corporate level but for the war I think we need to do it an alliance level.
 
 We really need to sort what can/should be produced with what facilities we have and what facilities we can setup. Our carrier pilots can try and pick up the slack with carrier runs. Bringing in anything smaller than a Battleship is pretty easy, and even some like the Tempest you can fit two with some spare room. Hence the reason we might focus production on ships like the Rokh and Megathron that aren't so easily jumped as the Tempest.
 
 [RCON] Aaron Mirrorsaver
 
 yes its a problem, support ships is a problem too.
 
 the thing is with carriers on standby sitting in a pos most of the time, its hard to get logistics done, especially for euro, the u,s people might have it easier, but then we have to rep poses/ services at night instead of logistics, everybody cant go off and do their own logistics or nothing will get repaired.
 
 we cant stop our carriers sitting on standby in qcw or z-k because there tipping the balance as we are out numbered, so they are there to protect the cyno jammers should a hostile bs fleet make a go or a number of goes for them.
 
 need to get a large pos or more setup in qcw maybe for pure bs production.
 
 [MBYTE] Nolan Dempsey
 
 We need the capitals on standby and we can't be stupid and give our enemies an easy opportunity to gank us at a midpoint or in empire. That being said, we need to keep earning ISK and moving/creating/mining supplies where we can. Maybe this whole war becomes a lot easier in a few days if we really do have friends showing up, or if Razor realizes just how futile this is. Otherwise it's going to be long and drawn out and we need to do what we can for those that are losing ships and need replacements, or ISK to buy them.
 
 
 Wow, considering that Insurgency has lost over 25 bill in Capitals, including 2 Rorquals. It seems that it gets even worse on the forums. They seem to be a huge fight between the Euros and US tz, with reference of the Euros being to busy playing ôHello Kitty Onlineö. Or this:
 
 [CELES] Felysta
 was also pretty damn upset about the lack of capitals... I was looking forward to a massive capital fight against their titans, but obviously some people don't want that... That's cool too, I just wish those people would join a different alliance (ie not a large 0.0 pvp alliance).
 
 Nice work with the prize draw, I'd like to say I hope to win, but that'll never happen!
 
 That would involve losing caps... somethign that we just aren't gonna do.
 
 [GAME] Agmar (Fleet Commander)
 
 And if tonight, they bring 30 caps, and I have 15, we are jumping. Why? Because we are better than them.
 
 Seems Us is forgetting that IF something happens, it's 24.00-01.00 for the euro's, like last night i have been standing at a pos for 3 hours easely.
 
 [LFC] Lara renquist
 
 Little note to high command... SPEAK INFO!! the 3-4 hours the bs fleet was at the Z-K pos we heard absolutely nothing from you guys exept, no we cant go not enough numbers.
 
 This is very demoralizing.
 
 In closing it seems Insurgency has no fittings on any of there stations, no clone services, and there FCÆs think shooting station services is a tactical failure. The leadership in conversations are looking forward to the much need help from Tri, so they can help them bring the *****train to kill Smash/Kill. Oh they consider themselves as the 3rd most powerful PVP alliance in the game.
 
 
 
 
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        |  flakeys
 Manu Armata
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 09:20:00 -
          [3] 
 We got the TRI post.. the PA one and now this.
 
 
 
 Sunday drama-day ?
  
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        |  Kaleeb
 Gods Unwanted
 Privateer Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 09:23:00 -
          [4] 
 Heh Darth's punctuation hasn't improved since I left
  
 Don't think this changes much for Insrg because they know they have spies and would be expecting a leak at sometime. Just a shame you have to ruin what looks like a good op by posting it on the forums.
 
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        |  Fred0
 Cutting Edge Incorporated
 RAZOR Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 09:28:00 -
          [5] 
 You missed the "Branch is RZR's Vietnam" post. That one was the best of Darths hilarious posts from thursday.
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 "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
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        |  Fedaykin Naib
 Celestial Apocalypse
 Insurgency
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 09:40:00 -
          [6] 
 
  Originally by: Fred0 You missed the "Branch is RZR's Vietnam" post. That one was the best of Darths hilarious posts from thursday.
 
 
 You should here him say it! It's AWESOME!
  
 
 
 
 "Long Live the Fighters!"
 
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        |  NokNok
 D00M.
 Triumvirate.
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 09:44:00 -
          [7] 
 
  Quote: this will be an easy 300 man cap fleet with 300 bs.
 
 
 Hmm I thought Caod already said we were gonna attack Bruce on monday :(
 I guess we didn't get the memo.
 
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        |  Alekseyev Karrde
 Noir.
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 12:22:00 -
          [8] 
 Insurgency is ready to grab the brass ring they jumped for earlier this fall, but I dont think they're ready to hold onto it for long.
 
 
 Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
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        |  Spyzor4twinzor
 Gallente
 Spyzor4twinzor Corp
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 13:03:00 -
          [9] 
 Edited by: Spyzor4twinzor on 20/04/2008 13:03:43
 Gee they cant even keep there own stations load with gear, and if they do they put it up at 200%:
 
 The market in all of our space seems to be permanently empty. This creates a logistical problem that bleeds out to affect the alliance itself.
 
 Currently the corps in alliance are not contributing in the market. They keep their production to themselves or put sell/buy orders in this forum. This affects the alliance in the sense that it lowers our combat readiness and ability to react to any attacks or to prepare last-minute for any CTA or offensive... all because there is nothing in market to equip your ship with on a lastminute notice. Those few individuals that sell items in market do so are incredibly overpriced rates and that, regardless of how 'trader-like' it is, hurts all of us.
 
 Here's what I suggest:
 
 -Assign each corp a small list of items they must produce and keep market stocked with. Vital items like ammunition (all types T1, Faction), tackling modules, frigates (for tackling) can be built easily by any non-industrial corp and in large numbers. Industrial-leaned corporations can be assigned to supply jump fuel, battleships, cruisers, t2 ammo and t2 drones.
 
 -Each corp should have a player assigned as their market-master. This person is the one that takes the production assigned to their corp and places it on market. This will remove multiple entries for the same item and allows the prices to be kept at a rate set by the alliance (Read: not 500% overpriced).
 
 -People found placing overpriced items on market should be fined or booted. Selling a 10 mill ship for 20 mill is just war-profiteering.
 
 
 If the above is done we may see the day that our stations can each provide quick arms and ships for alliance even in the middle of a scramble order. As it is right now we have many players going out to fight in badly fitted ships or in ships they are not specialized in just because they didn't have time to build up their own stockpile or because they already lost it in combat.
 
 Planning for an Op is good, however it is the market that ensures a rapid response.
 
 [DKPR]Tac Ginaz
 
 
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        |  Felysta Sandorn
 Celestial Apocalypse
 Insurgency
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 13:06:00 -
          [10] 
 Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 20/04/2008 13:07:41
 
 
 
 Latest Video, Click Here!
 
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        |  lead balloon
 Gallente
 Band of Sisters
 Rally Against Evil
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 13:13:00 -
          [11] 
 Edited by: lead balloon on 20/04/2008 13:16:26
 seems bob taught rzr and the nap train a few lessons in the south, inc Meta Gaming 101.
 
 that said im sure if you keep this up you will be bitten by it. perhaps a comms reset during an engagement? forums attacked? key leadership ip's blocked from comms servers and forums?
 
 be carefull what type of war you get into rzr spy....
 
 as much as i dislike both parties here at least INSRG are proving they pvp in space not on other peoples forums.
 
 oh and for anyone who may be interested to actualy look at real pvp thats been taking place heres a few stats:
 
 the coalition of rzr+mates has lost 17 dreads, 5 carriers and 431 battleships.
 
 insrg has lost 7 dreads, 9 carriers and 218 battleships. insrg still holds sov in all its attacked systems.
 
 so before you start trying to put them down, look at the cold hard stats.
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        |  Koval
 Celestial Apocalypse
 Insurgency
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 13:15:00 -
          [12] 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor Edited by: Spyzor4twinzor on 20/04/2008 13:03:43
 Gee they cant even keep there own stations load with gear, and if they do they put it up at 200%:
 
 The market in all of our space seems to be permanently empty. This creates a logistical problem that bleeds out to affect the alliance itself.
 
 Currently the corps in alliance are not contributing in the market. They keep their production to themselves or put sell/buy orders in this forum. This affects the alliance in the sense that it lowers our combat readiness and ability to react to any attacks or to prepare last-minute for any CTA or offensive... all because there is nothing in market to equip your ship with on a lastminute notice. Those few individuals that sell items in market do so are incredibly overpriced rates and that, regardless of how 'trader-like' it is, hurts all of us.
 
 Here's what I suggest:
 
 -Assign each corp a small list of items they must produce and keep market stocked with. Vital items like ammunition (all types T1, Faction), tackling modules, frigates (for tackling) can be built easily by any non-industrial corp and in large numbers. Industrial-leaned corporations can be assigned to supply jump fuel, battleships, cruisers, t2 ammo and t2 drones.
 
 -Each corp should have a player assigned as their market-master. This person is the one that takes the production assigned to their corp and places it on market. This will remove multiple entries for the same item and allows the prices to be kept at a rate set by the alliance (Read: not 500% overpriced).
 
 -People found placing overpriced items on market should be fined or booted. Selling a 10 mill ship for 20 mill is just war-profiteering.
 
 
 If the above is done we may see the day that our stations can each provide quick arms and ships for alliance even in the middle of a scramble order. As it is right now we have many players going out to fight in badly fitted ships or in ships they are not specialized in just because they didn't have time to build up their own stockpile or because they already lost it in combat.
 
 Planning for an Op is good, however it is the market that ensures a rapid response.
 
 [DKPR]Tac Ginaz
 
 
 signature = epic fail?
 
 
 
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        |  Spyzor4twinzor
 Gallente
 Spyzor4twinzor Corp
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 13:15:00 -
          [13] 
 
  Originally by: lead balloon seems bob taught rzr and the nap train a few lessons in the south, inc Meta Gaming 101.
 
 that said im sure if you keep this up you will be bitten by it. perhaps a comms reset during an engagement? forums attacked? key leadership ip's blocked from comms servers and forums?
 
 be carefull what type of war you get into rzr spy....
 
 as much as i dislike both parties here at least INSRG are proving they pvp in space not on other peoples forums.
 
 
 I am not a Rzrspyzor, I am a loyal member of Insurgency, I am tired of the lack of commitment we are getting from our leadership
 
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        |  lead balloon
 Gallente
 Band of Sisters
 Rally Against Evil
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 13:18:00 -
          [14] 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor 
  Originally by: lead balloon seems bob taught rzr and the nap train a few lessons in the south, inc Meta Gaming 101.
 
 that said im sure if you keep this up you will be bitten by it. perhaps a comms reset during an engagement? forums attacked? key leadership ip's blocked from comms servers and forums?
 
 be carefull what type of war you get into rzr spy....
 
 as much as i dislike both parties here at least INSRG are proving they pvp in space not on other peoples forums.
 
 
 I am not a Rzrspyzor, I am a loyal member of Insurgency, I am tired of the lack of commitment we are getting from our leadership
 
 
 i doubt you will get anything from them by posting here, only increase your chances of losing ships and demoralizing your teammates. so epic fail for you sir.
 
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        |  Cenila
 Celestial Apocalypse
 Insurgency
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 13:58:00 -
          [15] 
 Edited by: Cenila on 20/04/2008 13:59:39
 me being in kosovo means i am not that active ingame just reading forums and stuff. but must say this is one off the dumb things i seen on this forum.
 
 you must be a verry loyal member iff you are doing this.
 verry simpel doing this means you already have more trust from us than you are supposed to get.
 
 but its verry simpel whe off insurgency believe in the leadership, iff you realy dont my dear friend nobody tells you to stay.
 also need i to point out that whe came out on top when whe where heavy outnumberd en when everyone whas thinking whe gonna fail.
 whe earned our respect because whe fight whit respect.
 its realy normal to have spy's in an aliance its part off the game i think.
 but this will not mean that any insurgency member whill post stuff from other peeps there forums just to show off they are a spy.
 
 again its a respect thing. iff you are realy a member off insurgency you dont deserve the ticker because friend or enemy its still based on respect whit us.
 
 sorry to say m8 this means nothing. whe know whe have spy's en whe still fight its a game whe stand for fun en gameplay, en not trying to get somthing on the forum because lacking the skills ingame.
 
 realy sorry for the bad english i hope you all get my point. once again whe respect every player that stands against us. whe win or lose whe will try to get as much fun as whe can.
 
 see you all on the field again when i am back from kosovo.
 
 
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        |  darth solo
 Celestial Apocalypse
 Insurgency
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 14:07:00 -
          [16] 
 Edited by: darth solo on 20/04/2008 14:09:33
 INSRG do not post.
 
 
 d solo.
 
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        |  MineralOel Steuer
 Amarr
 OP EC
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 14:11:00 -
          [17] 
 
  Originally by: Cenila Edited by: Cenila on 20/04/2008 13:59:39
 me being in kosovo means i am not that active ingame just reading forums and stuff. but must say this is one off the dumb things i seen on this forum.
 
 you must be a verry loyal member iff you are doing this.
 verry simpel doing this means you already have more trust from us than you are supposed to get.
 
 but its verry simpel whe off insurgency believe in the leadership, iff you realy dont my dear friend nobody tells you to stay.
 also need i to point out that whe came out on top when whe where heavy outnumberd en when everyone whas thinking whe gonna fail.
 whe earned our respect because whe fight whit respect.
 its realy normal to have spy's in an aliance its part off the game i think.
 but this will not mean that any insurgency member whill post stuff from other peeps there forums just to show off they are a spy.
 
 again its a respect thing. iff you are realy a member off insurgency you dont deserve the ticker because friend or enemy its still based on respect whit us.
 
 sorry to say m8 this means nothing. whe know whe have spy's en whe still fight its a game whe stand for fun en gameplay, en not trying to get somthing on the forum because lacking the skills ingame.
 
 realy sorry for the bad english i hope you all get my point. once again whe respect every player that stands against us. whe win or lose whe will try to get as much fun as whe can.
 
 see you all on the field again when i am back from kosovo.
 
 
 the sad part is spy`s are part of the game
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        |  RagnarH
 Corp 1 Allstars
 Insurgency
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 14:11:00 -
          [18] 
 so, u managed to get in a insrg corp and get forum acces.
 
 Wow, u must be so proud, your mother must be calling all her friends to tell how u managed to infiltrate a whole ******* alliance forums. And your ancestor just turned around in their graves.
 
 I salute you my hero
 
 Can u teach me how to be cool like u ?
 -----------------------------------
 Corp 1 Allstars - Chief of Operations
 
 
 
 For your termination of Lord Zap we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 15,817,032 ISK
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        |  MineralOel Steuer
 Amarr
 OP EC
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 14:14:00 -
          [19] 
 
  Originally by: RagnarH so, u managed to get in a insrg corp and get forum acces.
 
 Wow, u must be so proud, your mother must be calling all her friends to tell how u managed to infiltrate a whole ******* alliance forums. And your ancestor just turned around in their graves.
 
 I salute you my hero
 
 Can u teach me how to be cool like u ?
 
 
 dan g
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        |  Spyzor4twinzor
 Gallente
 Spyzor4twinzor Corp
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 14:18:00 -
          [20] 
 Maybe you should ask your Jump Frieghter pilot that just went boom, that spies have no affect on your alliance.
 
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        |  MineralOel Steuer
 Amarr
 OP EC
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 14:21:00 -
          [21] 
 ha nice one Spyzor
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        |  Digicomm
 The Digital Communists
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 14:26:00 -
          [22] 
 tldr; can someone sum it up?
 
 
 sup?
 
 
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        |  Enraged Mado
 Caldari
 Virulence.
 Insurgency
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 14:28:00 -
          [23] 
 K.
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        |  Spike Spiegle
 Cutting Edge Incorporated
 RAZOR Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 17:49:00 -
          [24] 
 
  Originally by: lead balloon Edited by: lead balloon on 20/04/2008 13:16:26
 seems bob taught rzr and the nap train a few lessons in the south, inc Meta Gaming 101.
 
 that said im sure if you keep this up you will be bitten by it. perhaps a comms reset during an engagement? forums attacked? key leadership ip's blocked from comms servers and forums?
 
 be carefull what type of war you get into rzr spy....
 
 as much as i dislike both parties here at least INSRG are proving they pvp in space not on other peoples forums.
 
 oh and for anyone who may be interested to actualy look at real pvp thats been taking place heres a few stats:
 
 the coalition of rzr+mates has lost 17 dreads, 5 carriers and 431 battleships.
 
 insrg has lost 7 dreads, 9 carriers and 218 battleships. insrg still holds sov in all its attacked systems.
 
 so before you start trying to put them down, look at the cold hard stats.
 
 
 You do realise it takes 7 days for POS to count towards SOV? just wait a few days
  
 Oh and who cares about kill ratios if its less than a week and the enemy are already comlaining about to many losses?
 
 
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        |  Lisa Ikura
 New World Disorders
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 19:10:00 -
          [25] 
 
  Originally by: darth solo Edited by: darth solo on 20/04/2008 14:09:33
 INSRG do not post.
 
 
 d solo.
 
 
 any special reason that the only times INSRG is told not to post is when things are going bad?
  
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        |  Seth Quantix
 Destructive Influence
 Band of Brothers
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 19:15:00 -
          [26] 
 
  Originally by: Lisa Ikura 
  Originally by: darth solo Edited by: darth solo on 20/04/2008 14:09:33
 INSRG do not post.
 
 
 d solo.
 
 
 any special reason that the only times INSRG is told not to post is when things are going bad?
  
 
 if it was true it would firstly be a good idea and secondly a good idea, third, dont every alliance do that?
 
 so wjat ya point?
 
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        |  Lisa Ikura
 New World Disorders
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 19:21:00 -
          [27] 
 
  Originally by: Seth Quantix 
  Originally by: Lisa Ikura 
  Originally by: darth solo Edited by: darth solo on 20/04/2008 14:09:33
 INSRG do not post.
 
 
 d solo.
 
 
 any special reason that the only times INSRG is told not to post is when things are going bad?
  
 
 if it was true it would firstly be a good idea and secondly a good idea, third, dont every alliance do that?
 
 so wjat ya point?
 
 
 probably that things must be going badly now then
  
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        |  Justin Morgan
 Cutting Edge Incorporated
 RAZOR Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 19:34:00 -
          [28] 
 Hi mom, im in a RAZOR spy thread o\/o
 
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        |  Ja La
 Red Ballz
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 20:14:00 -
          [29] 
 
 
 Word of advise if you need to supply troops cut off from empire supplies.
 
 You need a very strong 0.0 market place to keep them stocked in BS & the various T2 Cruisers & Frigs , plus modules. Suggest you create a market outpost open to all of your Allies with cheap costs to buy , sell and produce. If you can get the minerals then make your own BS if you cant then do carrier fleet ops where the entire fleet is taking BS from Low -> 00. sec. if you have a very active war you need to do this no less then every other day to keep your market stocked. If needed NAP a very strong Merch Corp / Alliance who has the sole job of making a buck as they supply your war effort.
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Spyzor4twinzor
 Gallente
 Spyzor4twinzor Corp
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 20:21:00 -
          [30] 
 
  Quote: [SEX-GOD]darth solo
 
 Post subject: Capital payout loses suspendedPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:11 pm
 
 
 Head of the Alliance
 
 Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:13 am
 Posts: 1614 Untill we reactivate it.. the isk is needed to be used for something LARGE the now.
 
 
 A week ago darth solo said he'd pay for our capital losses "until he was out of isk." Looks like darth solo is out of isk, or perhaps he is trying to get some mercs to help us? Maybe... buy a titan? The real question is, though - will not paying for capital losses to get a titan or hire mercs really help us fix the poor morale and horrible leadership? Darth solo hoards high-end moon mins and stops supporting his alliance the second the isk is needed for a super-secret squirrel reason.
 
 I'll tell you the real reason - he doesn't want this war to hurt his personal wealth, while rest of us are relegated to flying T1 BC's in fleet because our alliance can't replace our BSs or caps.
 
 Enjoy the isk while you can, darth, because we are all sick of your greed. Nothing you can do will help us hold this space anymore, because you aren't going to have people willing to keep throwing ships at the enemy to protect your personal isk farm. Insurgency used to be about PVP - now its about recruiting every corp under the sun and then cowering in a corner of space waiting for the inevitable while darth is seen not more than 2 hours ago evacuating his assets. Way to lead, darth... way to lead.
 
 
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        |  Mr McDee
 Ancient Crew
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 20:26:00 -
          [31] 
 Spyzor4twinzor post with your main or stfu.
 
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        |  Spyzor4twinzor
 Gallente
 Spyzor4twinzor Corp
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 20:40:00 -
          [32] 
 
  Quote: [SEX-GOD]darth solo Post subject: Last warning about EVE-O/scrapheapPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:15 pm
 
 
 Head of the Alliance
 
 Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:13 am
 Posts: 1616 From this point on every member of INSRG that posts on the alliance section of the forums or on the alliance section of scrapheap will lose all posting rites on INSRG forums, depending on sitauation ill also ask ur ceo to remove you from this alliance.
 
 If a post requires an official post ill do it.
 
 
 
 
 
 Top
 
 [SEX-GOD]darth solo Post subject: Re: Last warning about EVE-O/scrapheapPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:44 pm
 
 
 Head of the Alliance
 
 Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:13 am
 Posts: 1616 First to be removed from insrg forums
 
 [VIRIL] Enraged Mado
 
 
 Free speech is not encouraged in Insurgency anymore. Mado got removed from the Insurgency forums for speaking his mind. Darth solo is now running a campaign of intimidation against his own members, so you see, I would post with my main if it were allowed, so you can STFU. Don't read it if you don't want to
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Thodoros
 Minmatar
 Mythos Corp
 RAZOR Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 20:53:00 -
          [33] 
 I guess you have a dictator in your alliance?
 You know what they do to dictators?
 My guess is, that you do know.
 
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        |  Digicomm
 The Digital Communists
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 20:57:00 -
          [34] 
 
  Originally by: Thodoros I guess you have a dictator in your alliance?
 You know what they do to dictators?
 My guess is, that you do know.
 
 
 Some great alliances have dictators, this why Razor could be fail?
 
 If people are told to stfu, then they should probably stfu and all.
 
 
 sup?
 
 
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        |  Spyzor4twinzor
 Gallente
 Spyzor4twinzor Corp
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 21:03:00 -
          [35] 
 Well, darth is insisting that he is buying a titan today. I wonder - how will that titan help alliancemates replace their ships? Does it mine? How about you be a little less selfish and use the isk for entire ally and not just for an e-peen that you'll hardly ever use. Admit it, it's about personal gratification. Afterall, when we lose our space I doubt you'll sell the e-peen and give the isk back to the corps that took and defended the moons that paid for it.
 
 This is just further evidence that darth has been ruined by moon mining and has completed the transition into a meglomaniac. Replace our BSs first, then our caps, THEN maybe think about your e-peen.
 
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        |  FinrodFelagund
 Rome
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 21:08:00 -
          [36] 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor Well, darth is insisting that he is buying a titan today. I wonder - how will that titan help alliancemates replace their ships? Does it mine? How about you be a little less selfish and use the isk for entire ally and not just for an e-peen that you'll hardly ever use. Admit it, it's about personal gratification. Afterall, when we lose our space I doubt you'll sell the e-peen and give the isk back to the corps that took and defended the moons that paid for it.
 
 This is just further evidence that darth has been ruined by moon mining and has completed the transition into a meglomaniac. Replace our BSs first, then our caps, THEN maybe think about your e-peen.
 
 
 LoL In the laggy world of mega blobs (read: tri/ins/smashkill/razor/MM) titans are teh ultimate defensive tool, and while it wont replace your battleship, it will certainly help you take less losses.
 
 
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        |  PMBhauler
 Pod Me Beautiful
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 21:22:00 -
          [37] 
 Unfortunately this comes in 2nd for drama of the week....but its good drama.
 
 Made CAOD entertaining for a little bit. and LOLZ at Insurgency...i give you about a week, maybe a week and a half, before we see "Inusrgency has surrendered...Northern coalition give us one week to move assets out"
 
 From talking with friends I have in Insurgency a lot of people are already moving assets out, looking for new corps/alliances at they view this as a lost cause. But hell from what they tell me is going on and their general morale, I would be doing the same thing.
 
 But i could be wrong. Looks like some good fights up there, though this past weekend Insurgency seems to be on the short end of winning.
 
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        |  Fry Fortune
 Ultrapolite Socialites
 GoonSwarm
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 21:25:00 -
          [38] 
 dumb drama stirring alt poster has no clue why titans are good for logistics ITT
 
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        |  Spyzor4twinzor
 Gallente
 Spyzor4twinzor Corp
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 21:27:00 -
          [39] 
 What used to make Insurgency great was that we weren't about the mega blob, titans, etc. We got things done with conventional fleets, which was FUN. Me sitting in a POS in the crappy T1 BC I can afford while some guy clicks a button on his 75 billion e-peen once an hour is hardly FUN.
 
 That is, if he even buys it...
 
 But seriously, aren't I - the average pilot in EVE wihtout the resources to replace 10 BS a month - every bit entitled to the economic benefit and enjoyment of being in a space-holding alliance? You think BoB would let its members go without BSs? Or suspend Cap reimbursements? I dunno. I don't like it. Someone please save darth from himself, or Insurgency from darth. I pay the same amount for my subscription as Insurgency leaders, but they seem to be forgetting that.
 
 Don't get me wrong, I don't want Razor and Co. to win, I just don't want Insurgency to implode over this disgusting display of greed and nobody within the alliance is being allowed to speak their mind in a constructive manner so I am stuck with this approach.
 
 Oh, and this:
 
 
  Quote: [VIRIL] Saltire Post subject: Re: LOLPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:21 pm
 
 
 SPAM lvl V
 
 
 
 Joined: Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:09 pm
 Posts: 728 dude posting rekons hes not a spy but someone disapoiinted by leadership.
 
 hardly, he seems to have leadership and command access.
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Mr McDee
 Ancient Crew
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 21:31:00 -
          [40] 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor Well, darth is insisting that he is buying a titan today. I wonder - how will that titan help alliancemates replace their ships? Does it mine? How about you be a little less selfish and use the isk for entire ally and not just for an e-peen that you'll hardly ever use. Admit it, it's about personal gratification. Afterall, when we lose our space I doubt you'll sell the e-peen and give the isk back to the corps that took and defended the moons that paid for it.
 
 This is just further evidence that darth has been ruined by moon mining and has completed the transition into a meglomaniac. Replace our BSs first, then our caps, THEN maybe think about your e-peen.
 
 
 You are stupid, aren't you? You do realize titan makes it way harder to take off cynojammer? You do realize logistical meanings of the titan?
 
 Take a deep breath little brat and let mature men do what they ought to do.
 
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        |  Moonlight Express
 Amarr
 Moonlight Express Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 21:33:00 -
          [41] 
 
  Originally by: Fry Fortune dumb drama stirring alt poster has no clue why titans are good for logistics ITT
 
 
 Wait, I though Titans + Cynojammer = Impenetrable defense
  
 
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        |  Spyzor4twinzor
 Gallente
 Spyzor4twinzor Corp
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 21:36:00 -
          [42] 
 
  Quote: 
 
 let mature men do what they ought to do.
 
 
 Who ever thinks men playing video games is evidence of maturity needs to be counseled. Don't take yourself so seriously there, Bubba.
 
 BTW o/ darth
 
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        |  Mr McDee
 Ancient Crew
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.20 22:25:00 -
          [43] 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor Who ever thinks men playing video games is evidence of maturity needs to be counseled. Don't take yourself so seriously there, Bubba.
 
 
 
 Exactly. You are an example, bud. Although, it doesn't mean there is no men in EVE, does it?
 
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        |  Voxstix
 Critical Analysis
 R0ADKILL
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 00:17:00 -
          [44] 
 So you're saying INSRG planned to siege SMASHKILL after securing Branch ?
 lol @ INSRG thinking they can remove us from Geminate.
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        |  Zimi Vlasic
 F.R.E.E. Explorer
 Atrum Tempestas Foedus
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 00:28:00 -
          [45] 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor 
  Originally by: lead balloon seems bob taught rzr and the nap train a few lessons in the south, inc Meta Gaming 101.
 
 that said im sure if you keep this up you will be bitten by it. perhaps a comms reset during an engagement? forums attacked? key leadership ip's blocked from comms servers and forums?
 
 be carefull what type of war you get into rzr spy....
 
 as much as i dislike both parties here at least INSRG are proving they pvp in space not on other peoples forums.
 
 
 I am not a Rzrspyzor, I am a loyal member of Insurgency, I am tired of the lack of commitment we are getting from our leadership
 
 worst spy cover store I've ever heard.
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 Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
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        |  Voxstix
 Critical Analysis
 R0ADKILL
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 00:29:00 -
          [46] 
 INSRG wanted war with the north. they got it. and gl you'll need it.
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Lusian
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 06:12:00 -
          [47] 
 Edited by: Lusian on 21/04/2008 06:12:31
 Edited by: Lusian on 21/04/2008 06:12:16
 
 
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        |  Seatoo
 Terradyne Networks
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 06:28:00 -
          [48] 
 insurg + smashkill and atlas = northern domination
 
 DO IT FGTS
 
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        |  Nagelbrett
 Reign in Blood
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 07:01:00 -
          [49] 
 Edited by: Nagelbrett on 21/04/2008 07:02:31
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor 
  Quote: 
 
 let mature men do what they ought to do.
 
 
 Who ever thinks men playing video games is evidence of maturity needs to be counseled. Don't take yourself so seriously there, Bubba.
 
 BTW o/ darth
 
 
 lucky i am a ex INSRG Member, so i can post here hehe
 
 well if all is that bad for you in INSRG, there is that magic thing you can do, named "quit corporation".
 seriously, stop whining on CAOD and upset all your fellow Ally Members, who try to achive something and either help them or leave
 
 damn 10 year olds
 
 Nagelbrett
 
 Proud Ex-Member of CELES (only left due lack of time atm)
 
 
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        |  Gontard
 Minmatar
 E-Truth
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 07:59:00 -
          [50] 
 Now, if you can't beat razor and pure you really have no right to poast and gloat. razor and pure
   
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        |  Dezzereth
 Two Swords Guild
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 08:44:00 -
          [51] 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor I'll tell you the real reason - he doesn't want this war to hurt his personal wealth, while rest of us are relegated to flying T1 BC's in fleet because our alliance can't replace our BSs or caps.
 
 Enjoy the isk while you can, darth, because we are all sick of your greed.
 
 
 
 As entertaining you are, you also have absolutely no clue whatsoever. Even long before Insurgency times, darth has always backed up fellow corp members if things got financially dire for one of them. He payed for member's ships out of his personal wallet more often than you can find a ****thread (like this) on CAOD. So much for his "greed". Either really inform yourself "Mr. Spy" if you feel the need to spread "the truth" or just shut the **** up.
 
 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor Well, darth is insisting that he is buying a titan today. I wonder - how will that titan help alliancemates replace their ships? Does it mine? How about you be a little less selfish and use the isk for entire ally and not just for an e-peen that you'll hardly ever use. Admit it, it's about personal gratification. Afterall, when we lose our space I doubt you'll sell the e-peen and give the isk back to the corps that took and defended the moons that paid for it.
 
 
 Again you show that you have no idea how wars are waged (ie space is held/conquered) in 0.0 EVE these days.
 
 As to the replacement part. I have been in several 0.0 corps, with this and other chracters, and I never expected anyone to pay up if I lose ships. I have the opportunity to be in 0.0 (access to rats and ore), and have the opportunity to have fun and shoot stuff. If that is not enough for you or if you have problem making ISK, then you should stick to do missions for a while, or remove the thought of living in 0.0 from your mind completely, since apparantly you are not fit for it. If a corp/alliance offers ship replacement it is a bonus not a must, and again, if you don't like the current policy, just leave, nobody will hold you back - that is if you are really a member of Insurgency, atm.
 
 Also, if the alliance leadership feels like they need to spend alliance money in a certain way (Titan, Mothership, or whatever) then it's their decision. Live with it or leave. If everyone would start to throw in ideas how to spend the cash, then no decision would ever be reached.
 
 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor 
 You think BoB would let its members go without BSs? Or suspend Cap reimbursements? I dunno. I don't like it.
 
 
 
 Again, you show that you have absolutely no idea, or that you are talking out of your behind on purpose. BoB is built around a communistic/socialistic structure. Most PvP assets are corp owned, and provided to members, because they give most/everything to corp. Do you feel that would work for you? You like it? Join BoB. It also might teach you what use a Titan has in a war, since you apparantly haven't figured out yet.
 
 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor But seriously, aren't I - *snip* - every bit entitled to the economic benefit and enjoyment of being in a space-holding alliance?
 
 
 
 Only if you show dedication, and effort, and don't go whining to the Forum on the slightest sign of problems. In contrast to your belief (and showing here) there are mature men and women playing this game, with whom you can really talk to, if you feel certain things don't go well. Yes, also in Insurgency. And stop that crap about a witchhunt of "deviants" in Insurgency.
 
 Did darth make bad calls? Sure! Has darth made mistakes? You bet. Then again, the one who never did please throw the first stone. But it is simply not true that he is the egomaniac, greedy dog you want to picture him. He is dedicated to make Insurgency work, and puts a lot of energy into it (as do other members of CELES/Insurgency), and greed for ISK is definitely no motivator there.
 
 
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        |  Zyleta
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 10:12:00 -
          [52] 
 
  Originally by: Spyzor4twinzor 
  Originally by: lead balloon seems bob taught rzr and the nap train a few lessons in the south, inc Meta Gaming 101.
 
 that said im sure if you keep this up you will be bitten by it. perhaps a comms reset during an engagement? forums attacked? key leadership ip's blocked from comms servers and forums?
 
 be carefull what type of war you get into rzr spy....
 
 as much as i dislike both parties here at least INSRG are proving they pvp in space not on other peoples forums.
 
 
 I am not a Rzrspyzor, I am a loyal member of Insurgency, I am tired of the lack of commitment we are getting from our leadership
 
 
 Haha that's a good one :) Unhappy members do not start with revealing internal discussions to the public. Unhappy member would rather whine about something, while you did what every spy does, you started posting what's on insrg's internal forums. This story about being insrg member is only to avoid blaming RZR/MM for dirty play.
 
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        |  LordChaos
 Amarr
 Sons Of Amun
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 11:05:00 -
          [53] 
 DS took my candy :(
 
 
 The Master Of Chaos
 
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        |  TRD 2371
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 11:29:00 -
          [54] 
 nnc failing on evry level even dirty play (spying)
 only thing they appear to be able to do nicely is nap evryone and then blob the enemy
 nnc is like 8 or 10 alliances vs insurgency
 i want to join insurgency
 looks like lots of pew pew fun can be had up there
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  yarrr yu
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 11:57:00 -
          [55] 
 
 impersonating an insurgency member and talking crap on the forums is not enaugh for razor/mm & pets...
 
 their last tacting is hacking insrg vent servers and at the exact moment when a fight begins they start broadcasting loud music making it imposible for the insrg fcs to call targets untill they can ban the spy off vent..
 
 that happpened several times. good work NNC.. true pvp alliances
 
 
  
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        |  raspuiain
 Imperial Fleet
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 12:05:00 -
          [56] 
 
  Originally by: yarrr yu 
 impersonating an insurgency member and talking crap on the forums is not enaugh for razor/mm & pets...
 
 their last tacting is hacking insrg vent servers and at the exact moment when a fight begins they start broadcasting loud music making it imposible for the insrg fcs to call targets untill they can ban the spy off vent..
 
 that happpened several times. good work NNC.. true pvp alliances
 
 
  
 
 This morning Insurgency rounded up all the bunnies and killed them, knowing that RzR and Co love bunnies so much in an attempt to remove there fighting spirit.
 
 This afternoon a pet goldfish of Fredos died in suspicious circumstances, Insurg are clearly to blame
 
 Hay look, I can post unproven, pure Bull**** stuff too
 
 
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        |  Crunchip
 hirr
 Morsus Mihi
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 12:08:00 -
          [57] 
 This thread needs more love :)
 
 Thank you Insurgency for the fights you given us so far.
 It is really a pleasure to see you guys keep coming back in new ships and defending your space with all you got.
 
 Lets dont listen listen to derailers and alt-posters and play the game the way we all have fun with !
 
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        |  LordChaos
 Amarr
 Sons Of Amun
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 12:34:00 -
          [58] 
 
  Originally by: Crunchip This thread needs more love :)
 
 Thank you Insurgency for the fights you given us so far.
 It is really a pleasure for us guys to keep coming back in new ships and try and take your space with all we got.
 
 Lets dont listen listen to derailers and alt-posters and play the game the way we all have fun with !
 
 
 Fixed it for u :)
 
 
 The Master Of Chaos
 
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        |  Kali Cortez
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 13:11:00 -
          [59] 
 I smell ASCN
   
 flavor
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        |  Mr McDee
 Ancient Crew
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 13:22:00 -
          [60] 
 
  Originally by: Kali Cortez I smell ASCN
   
 Take a bath?
 
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        |  Kali Cortez
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 13:28:00 -
          [61] 
 
  Originally by: Mr McDee 
  Originally by: Kali Cortez I smell ASCN
   
 Take a bath?
 
 
 yeah ofc didn't have one since when I was in ASCN lol...
  
 flavor
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        |  Ethan Hunte
 TARDZ
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 16:50:00 -
          [62] 
 if you're disgruntled why dont you just leave?
 
 its a game, if you arent having fun, why are you getting your panties in a knot posting and crying about it?
 
 you seem to be in a serious emotional state over the state of affairs.
 
 as for maturity and games. heh.....
 
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        |  Nuala Reece
 Caldari
 Trinity Nova
 Trinity Nova Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 22:35:00 -
          [63] 
 
  Originally by: Mr McDee Spyzor4twinzor post with your main or stfu.
 
 
 Indeed- if you're that upset with being a member of Insurgency, Spyzor, maybe you might have considered maintaining a faint scrap of dignity by first joining their enemy and then releasing battleplans as yourself? If you'd done that this might only have come across as childish backstabbing, instead of craven childish backstabbing.
 
 
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        |  Darth Tom
 Minmatar
 Sebiestor tribe
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 22:56:00 -
          [64] 
 Just quit the alliance quit complaining, we all know your an enemy spy anyways.
 
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        |  hotforbananas
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.04.21 23:23:00 -
          [65] 
 im hot for darth solo's banana! not so hot for spygirlcrybabywahwahzor!
  
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