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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.04.22 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: El'Tar entertaining trolling...
Did the Black Rabbits merge with Genos? I remember ninja salvaging your gate camps in Nalvula last year with my trusty condor. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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El'Tar
Caldari Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.04.22 19:57:00 -
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no they not.
i was kik from blackrabbits. they say something about be small child but i not sure. + y steal stuff? ________________________________________________ MY BIG BROTHER BEING JESUS ******* CHRIST IN HIS BATTLEWAGON OF DOOM |
Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 20:21:00 -
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I popped many many haulers in Mamet only thing that happens is more undock and CVA try to blob you as soon as you go crim flagged, not worth the effort really. _______________
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.22 20:51:00 -
[34]
omw!
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:00:00 -
[35]
Cleaned.
Removed trolling, please don't generalise on nationalities when discussing farming. |
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Lord Rue
Gallente GenX Societies Inc. Wrath.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Rue on 22/04/2008 21:09:53 lawl, Mitnall-ed.
Also, I wasn't generalzing out of my arse either: I work in Vancouver B.C. with a large number of Chinese-Canadians of various levels of English proficiency, and can spot a fake with ease. |
CoLe Blackblood
Transnational Speedway League
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dez Affinity I popped many many haulers in Mamet only thing that happens is more undock and CVA try to blob you as soon as you go crim flagged, not worth the effort really.
True but the more "We" have, how much blobbing can they do if they are getting their arses handed to them?
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.04.23 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Radcjk The farmers in the low sec my alliance pirates started talking to us one day. It was pretty disconcerting. The macros just started speaking up and there were about five or six of them all told.
We almost felt bad about shooting them. Almost. It wore off. It was universally decided we didn't like such an emotion and so guilt was voted out and the guns started chattering again.
Later one mentioned something about their negotiator getting fired or something.
I guess its back to the rice paddy.
Nice job guys those same farmers we decced fought back when we invaded with T1 frigs , they were using kestrels , faction frigs and drakes. Good times.
Originally by: CoLe Blackblood
Originally by: Dez Affinity I popped many many haulers in Mamet only thing that happens is more undock and CVA try to blob you as soon as you go crim flagged, not worth the effort really.
True but the more "We" have, how much blobbing can they do if they are getting their arses handed to them?
...much more ? If we brought more numbers than their alliance fleet & other amarrian loyalist allies combined , they'd still have the coalition to defend their turf.
Maybe you could convince BoB that killing farmers in Mamet is a priority. Yeah , that's going to work
As long as CVA is happy with the statu quo , there is nothing we can do about it. |
CoLe Blackblood
Transnational Speedway League
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: CoLe Blackblood on 23/04/2008 11:51:34
Originally by: Stakhanov Edited by: Stakhanov on 23/04/2008 09:45:50
Originally by: Radcjk The farmers in the low sec my alliance pirates started talking to us one day. It was pretty disconcerting. The macros just started speaking up and there were about five or six of them all told.
We almost felt bad about shooting them. Almost. It wore off. It was universally decided we didn't like such an emotion and so guilt was voted out and the guns started chattering again.
Later one mentioned something about their negotiator getting fired or something.
I guess its back to the rice paddy.
Nice job guys those same farmers we decced fought back when we invaded with T1 frigs , they were using kestrels , faction frigs and drakes. Good times.
Originally by: CoLe Blackblood
Originally by: Dez Affinity I popped many many haulers in Mamet only thing that happens is more undock and CVA try to blob you as soon as you go crim flagged, not worth the effort really.
True but the more "We" have, how much blobbing can they do if they are getting their arses handed to them?
...much more ? If we brought more numbers than their alliance fleet & other amarrian loyalist allies combined , they'd still have the coalition to defend their turf.
Maybe you could convince BoB that killing farmers in Mamet is a priority. Yeah , that's going to work
As long as CVA is happy with the statu quo , there is nothing we can do about it. And from what I've seen , RP alliances will always put their antipirate agenda before the war on ISK farmers.
Spoken with the voice of true optimism, and metagaming experience.
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Darth Syphils
Amarr Noshikkan
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Posted - 2008.04.23 15:03:00 -
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One of the best things Tri did IMO was when the war dec'd CVA they were living out of that system and the macro hauler #'s went down by about 80%. It of course made alot of there pilots drop to -10's lol.
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Irish8484
Black Lance
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow omw!
there goes the neighbourhood
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Guilty Man
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Posted - 2008.04.24 08:05:00 -
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funny to see when after 30-40 mins killing haulers in kheram CVA and pets bring 60 man gang vs 3 pirates
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CoLe Blackblood
Transnational Speedway League
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Posted - 2008.04.25 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Guilty Man funny to see when after 30-40 mins killing haulers in kheram CVA and pets bring 60 man gang vs 3 pirates
I hear ya brother.
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CoLe Blackblood
Transnational Speedway League
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Posted - 2008.04.25 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Syphils One of the best things Tri did IMO was when the war dec'd CVA they were living out of that system and the macro hauler #'s went down by about 80%. It of course made alot of there pilots drop to -10's lol.
<3 Tri
Was in Tri when they took YAO. Some epic battles there!
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Udas Toiracsi
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:15:00 -
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Props to you Cole you are a sneaky bugger. I've almost had you a few times and you keep getting away. :)
I agree with you that mamet is bad.. When i watch the station from your 325km safe spot i see 4-5 NPC corp haulers undock at once using macro software so you aren't wrong. Keep killing them and I'll keep laughing. Its fun to login and see 3-4 new corpses each day on scanner.
However since you shot up a comple IACers - I'll have to keep gunning for you even tho I applaud your macro killing efforts. Maybe one day you'll slip up and I'll manage to take down your crusader or nanophoon... I'll promise I'll keep tryin! o7
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MASTER SMAMMAH
Caldari Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 03:10:00 -
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You know, it's sad to see how bored "tough" pirates are to attack haulers. LOL. Pretty pathetic. I know miners are the bane of pvp players. The reason is because most pvp players hate mining. Myself included. But why grief them? And they are needed. But hey, we see alot of sissy pirates too scared to attack real ships can fight. So they attack easy prey. Which brings me back to my point a while back. Those pirates are cowards. I have fought pirates I can respect as good pvpers. But the ones who want to attack miners and haulers all day just to grief them just proves their cowardice. I would say to toughen up, but that would be laughable since they continue to prove their weakness.
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Dianeces
Minmatar The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH You know, it's sad to see how bored "tough" pirates are to attack haulers. LOL. Pretty pathetic. I know miners are the bane of pvp players. The reason is because most pvp players hate mining. Myself included. But why grief them? And they are needed. But hey, we see alot of sissy pirates too scared to attack real ships can fight. So they attack easy prey. Which brings me back to my point a while back. Those pirates are cowards. I have fought pirates I can respect as good pvpers. But the ones who want to attack miners and haulers all day just to grief them just proves their cowardice. I would say to toughen up, but that would be laughable since they continue to prove their weakness.
There's a reason your alliance is terrible. Cluepon: go back and read the OP. All of it.
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Lil'Bunneh FoFo
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Posted - 2008.05.08 04:09:00 -
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Edited by: Lil''Bunneh FoFo on 08/05/2008 04:09:37 .
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Pans Exual
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.05.08 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH You know, it's sad to see how bored "tough" pirates are to attack haulers. LOL. Pretty pathetic. I know miners are the bane of pvp players. The reason is because most pvp players hate mining. Myself included. But why grief them? And they are needed. But hey, we see alot of sissy pirates too scared to attack real ships can fight. So they attack easy prey. Which brings me back to my point a while back. Those pirates are cowards. I have fought pirates I can respect as good pvpers. But the ones who want to attack miners and haulers all day just to grief them just proves their cowardice. I would say to toughen up, but that would be laughable since they continue to prove their weakness.
Man, you're the worst poster in this thread, and that's saying something. *Facepalm* --- basically: "nerf rock, paper is fine" -scissors |
128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH You know, it's sad to see how bored "tough" pirates are to attack haulers. LOL. Pretty pathetic. I know miners are the bane of pvp players. The reason is because most pvp players hate mining. Myself included. But why grief them? And they are needed. But hey, we see alot of sissy pirates too scared to attack real ships can fight. So they attack easy prey. Which brings me back to my point a while back. Those pirates are cowards. I have fought pirates I can respect as good pvpers. But the ones who want to attack miners and haulers all day just to grief them just proves their cowardice. I would say to toughen up, but that would be laughable since they continue to prove their weakness.
128th=CEO facepalms himself... Ill have a chat with em, I think he missed the part where it was about macros...
Mamet does have alot of macros flying through, but claiming CVA has anything to profit from it is ridiculous. As was said in other threads, the only reason they do not get shot up is because it's an NRDS region and to avoid people going on macro killing spree's and in the process blowing up actual players. (possible hauler alts etc)
There have been proven macro corps been set red before in the area, but most of the hauler macros are in NPC corps.
I think it is not the responsibility of the playerbase (or CVA for that matter) to take care of the macro problem. It's the responsibility of CCP to take care of it. Offcourse we can help them a hand and I think the most efficient way is to petition the macros.
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dianeces
Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH You know, it's sad to see how bored "tough" pirates are to attack haulers. LOL. Pretty pathetic. I know miners are the bane of pvp players. The reason is because most pvp players hate mining. Myself included. But why grief them? And they are needed. But hey, we see alot of sissy pirates too scared to attack real ships can fight. So they attack easy prey. Which brings me back to my point a while back. Those pirates are cowards. I have fought pirates I can respect as good pvpers. But the ones who want to attack miners and haulers all day just to grief them just proves their cowardice. I would say to toughen up, but that would be laughable since they continue to prove their weakness.
There's a reason your alliance is terrible. Cluepon: go back and read the OP. All of it.
Ohhh, that made you feel good didnt it you little ****? Didnt you just dramabomb out of some alliance just recently? Lemme think... ohhh, that alliance that actually gave Sylph some kudos for putting up a fight here and there when u guys failstormed Providence?
Good players dont make a good team and clearly you guys are topheavy with ego.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
Caldari Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:27:00 -
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I understand the issues with macrominers. Sure they suck, but the problem with going into a system and killing miners is that not all are macrominers. Sure, some are obvious. Others not as much. But killing all the miners just to kill "macro" miners is a smokescreen for some weak "pirate" to get help because he sucks so bad he can't do it himself. And because he likes to grief real miners. I laugh because whenever someone says "macro miner" people start freaking out and kill tham all. Yes, I agree with the OP on the problem with macro mining. Yes, it is wrong. But by his standards who isn't one?
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.08 15:51:00 -
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I'm an avid miner, and i support totally anything to do with blasting the crap out of macro miners. I get better money for my services. Carry on ya scurvy spacedawgs! _ EVE RELATED CONTENT |
Dianeces
Minmatar The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: 128th ABC123
Ohhh, that made you feel good didnt it you little ****? Didnt you just dramabomb out of some alliance just recently? Lemme think... ohhh, that alliance that actually gave Sylph some kudos for putting up a fight here and there when u guys failstormed Providence?
Good players dont make a good team and clearly you guys are topheavy with ego.
Troll post is troll.
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.08 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH blah blah blah
The OP didn't mention miners, macro or otherwise. He's talking about the noobcorp characters hauling courier mission crap all day long to farm isk.
These isk farmers are under the protection of CVA, whether there's an arrangement or not. Shoot at the farmers and it spawns a blob of CVA or some other local. If you are a local and shoot at the isk farmers, you are banned from the intel channels and possibly reset to red.
Let me say it again, in case anyone missed it.
CVA actively, knowingly and willingly protects what are obviously isk farmers by attacking people that are attacking those isk farmers, regardless of whether they are just generally pirating or only selectively attacking the farmers and by forbidding their own members and allies from attacking those isk farmers.
You can blow all the roleplay, antipirate crap out your rear end. I consider CVA's behavior on this matter to be disgusting.
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Daerkannon Shimmerscale
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.08 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rooker These isk farmers are under the protection of CVA, whether there's an arrangement or not. Shoot at the farmers and it spawns a blob of CVA or some other local. If you are a local and shoot at the isk farmers, you are banned from the intel channels and possibly reset to red.
Let me say it again, in case anyone missed it.
CVA actively, knowingly and willingly protects what are obviously isk farmers by attacking people that are attacking those isk farmers, regardless of whether they are just generally pirating or only selectively attacking the farmers and by forbidding their own members and allies from attacking those isk farmers.
You can blow all the roleplay, antipirate crap out your rear end. I consider CVA's behavior on this matter to be disgusting.
Phht.. just being red is good enough to get a horde of salivating PvPers out to chase you, you don't have to shoot anything macro or not. Quite frankly we're a little bit too good at the anti-pirate thing and there are a lot of bored pilots looking for something to shoot.
That we end up protecting macro haulers is incidental. Occasionally there are efforts made to clear them out. CVA tried once ages ago. More recently Sani Sabik and Tri have both made their own dents in the macro population. The conclusion is always the same: it's a waste of time, ammo and sec status. Petitions have a much greater effect.. and yes, they do eventually work. When you live in the area you get familiar with some of the names and then one day they just disappear and never re-appear.
Also whenever a friendly decides to try and clear out the macro hauler population they inevitably end up targeting a real player and blowing them up. I suppose someone in NBSI would just say tough luck, but we live in a NRDS region of space where we actively try to encourage neutral to come and make a living. Many do. Blowing them up on some futile quest to 'end the macro hauler menace' is unacceptable.
You call it hypocrisy. I call it practicality. --- Honest officer, the dwarf was on fire when I got here! Can't find a mechanical engineering agent? Need a non-Caldari Navy agent? http://www.eve-agents.com/ for all your agent needs! |
Ancy Denaries
Caldari Under Heavy Fire
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:26:00 -
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I usually spend most of my time down and around Mamet, and I have to agree; it's a cesspool of newbcorp macrohaulers. I made it my job to clean it up (and I'm no pirate by any means) and it came to an abrupt end when CVA waved the "KOS" flag in my face :(
Roleplay or not, it's a disgusting behaviour to protect those who cheat their way thru the game and violate the EULA. CVA even has it in their rules that no pilot in CVA-controlled space (which currently includes the low sec systems around Mamet) may break the EULA. But what do they do about it? Nothing. Except blowing up the people that keep space clean of such vermin. It sucks. Big time, but I'm not interested in getting a huge "KOS" flag on my ass, so I'm not gonna help clean it up.
I only hope CVA gets off their fat asses and see what's going on under their very noses. The excuse "they might just be player alts" doesn't work. Try watching one for half an hour. Runs courier missions like there's no tomorrow, never replies to convos, has no bio, has PERFECT standings with amarr empire, yet a security status of 0.0 and have never left their corp. Hello? Wake up and smell the macro.
Originally by: "Cris Dono" That ofc isn't the best thing when a punisher obviously fitted with an Acme Infini-cap-o-matic is still dishing out hurt like there was no tomorrow :(
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Daerkannon Shimmerscale
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:47:00 -
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So you think the CVA and allies should be enforcing the EULA now? The CVA made a decision a while ago, and I think it's the right one, that they leave that up to CCP.
If you've spent that much time analyzing one of the macro haulers, then why haven't you petitioned them? It'll have a far greater effect than shooting dime a dozen haulers.
With Trinity 1.1 CCP got a whole bunch of new tools and directly after the patch the local macro population decreased very dramatically. It's slowly crawling back up again, but I believe CCP are doing what they can to stop ISK sellers.
Frankly if you really want to help the problem, track down the ISK buyers and pod them right out of the game. If there was no demand for illegal isk for cash, these farmers would disappear from the game. --- Honest officer, the dwarf was on fire when I got here! Can't find a mechanical engineering agent? Need a non-Caldari Navy agent? http://www.eve-agents.com/ for all your agent needs! |
Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:50:00 -
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Pirates are always welcome to come to Mamet (actually, Kheram is a rockin' place to get these haulers). CVA fights pirates. Period. That's what we do to play the game. The biproduct of our activity is gravitation of macroiskers to our space. The biproduct of people who pirate to play the game is potential loss of CCP customers (indeed there are pirates in this very forum who are proud of the prospect of forcing players away from the game. Referrence any "why I play the game" type thread.)
Both can be nicely argued as damaging to the game...but both are biproducts of completely valid playstyles.
Come to CVA space for pirating (plenty of it to be had...tons of missions runners, legit and otherwise) or come to CVA space to fight the CVA. You're more than welcome to; conflict is healthy for the game and fun for any pvper. But this "CVA are corrupt and directly and purposefully protect and profit from isk farmers" is just silliness.
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.08 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Daerkannon Shimmerscale So you think the CVA and allies should be enforcing the EULA now?
Of course not. However, I do wish that they would stop assisting those who do break the EULA.
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