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TZeer BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.04.25 09:29:00 - [181] Originally by: blue strigoy Originally by: SATAN lots of we are the best of the best of the best blabla I would never be proud on using exessively game mechanics, which CCP tried to rebalance. That shows only, how lame you are. Nano BS, sensor damps, didnt CCP also talk about nerving cloaks? Believe me, they did it not, because of you. You are only 1,2,3 attention ***s. You hear somewhere of an imbalance in teh game and you start to use it. In case you didnt know, nanostuff on BS got nerfed not long ago... oh, same with damps... umm shouldn`t we be dead and burried by now? Quote:** All those cloakers are making this game un-fun.You guys are most of the time afk ,playing wow,In the mean time there are alot guys sitting at a gate and wait and wait wait wait wait wait waiting ......wait ,,,,wait 2 hours 3 5 7 10 12 24 thinking not fun hell this is 0.0 ..hmm why i play this game ,,,wait wait wait better go to empire ,,yeah If we are that much afk, I wonder how all thoose kills end up on our killboard then, it must be magic
Straife North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.04.25 10:25:00 - [182] Edited by: Straife on 25/04/2008 10:26:18 Originally by: Tekka Well Straife if PL changes its tactics to something other than nanoboringsamethingoverandoveragain then I'll drop by and give you some special love too I'm not smacking PL you're good at what you do, just bored of the whole nano thing, try something new. Hmm I must be looking at some other ships than what we fly most of the time then, because if you look at your own killboard you would notice that most of our ships have no speed mods besides a mwd... PS - Sorry for a derail BE, was nice working with you guys down in Delve and running into DHBs CNR again up in Fountain.
blue strigoy elite armchair generals	Posted - 2008.04.25 10:26:00 - [183] Originally by: TZeer In case you didnt know, nanostuff on BS got nerfed not long ago... oh, same with damps... umm shouldn`t we be dead and burried by now? you still use imbalanced game mechanics instead of filing a bug report and let it be. Quote: If we are that much afk, I wonder how all thoose kills end up on our killboard then, it must be magic You sit around for hours and hours afk. Ganked ships die within seconds. Everybody knows that. Other players kill also lots of ships and do not all the posing like you do. You take in your engagements no risks of losing a ship. No risk, no fun. That is why other players do not copy your style. You are boring, it is boring what you do.
Straife North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.04.25 10:30:00 - [184] Originally by: blue strigoy That is why other players do not copy your style. You are boring, it is boring what you do. The tears are strong in this one, BE you really need to find him and collect the bucket full that you must of caused him to cry out.
blue strigoy elite armchair generals	Posted - 2008.04.25 10:45:00 - [185] Originally by: Straife The tears are strong in this one, BE you really need to find him and collect the bucket full that you must of caused him to cry out. Sry, if I have to disappoint you. Trust me. I am a BE npc alt. My intention is to push that thread back on page 1 of CAOD. Without me, it would disappear too fast from page 1.
TZeer BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.04.25 10:46:00 - [186] Originally by: blue strigoy Originally by: TZeer In case you didnt know, nanostuff on BS got nerfed not long ago... oh, same with damps... umm shouldn`t we be dead and burried by now? you still use imbalanced game mechanics instead of filing a bug report and let it be. Quote: If we are that much afk, I wonder how all thoose kills end up on our killboard then, it must be magic You sit around for hours and hours afk. Ganked ships die within seconds. Everybody knows that. Other players kill also lots of ships and do not all the posing like you do. You take in your engagements no risks of losing a ship. No risk, no fun. That is why other players do not copy your style. You are boring, it is boring what you do. And what "imbalanced game mechanics" would that be? And regarding risk, dont talk about stuff you have no clue about, just makes you look stupid. I feel the tears are strong here yes.
blue strigoy elite armchair generals	Posted - 2008.04.25 10:49:00 - [187] what is your definition of risk? I think that might be the problem, why you think, you risk something and I think you dont.
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.04.25 12:42:00 - [188] Originally by: blue strigoy what is your definition of risk? I think that might be the problem, why you think, you risk something and I think you dont. How about taking on 30 or 40 ships including capital support and a titan with only 8 ships including tacklers?....is that risk enough or is your troll so pathetic you do not think thats worth respecting?.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.04.25 12:48:00 - [189] Straife is PL's primary target caller FYI bruce
blue strigoy elite armchair generals	Posted - 2008.04.25 14:56:00 - [190] Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 12:47:57 titan in my pants LOL, there was even a Titan? ulala! how many ships you lost in that oh so risky engagement and how often you did it again?
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:00:00 - [191] Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 15:03:18 Originally by: blue strigoy LOL, there was even a Titan? ulala! how many ships you lost in that oh so risky engagement and how often you did it again? Here you go bud i think the 2 vigil losses are mentioned on that thread as well, but im sure you will find a way to troll it. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677 You must have been bent over royally to be so bitter against BE pal.
blue strigoy elite armchair generals	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:07:00 - [192] Originally by: lecrotta im sure you will find a way to troll it. why you answer then? Need more attention? I give you more of it. No worries. Also what do you want to proof? You lost 2 vigils? Now, taht was really risky!
Thelying dutchman North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:10:00 - [193] Originally by: Gneeznow Straife is PL's primary target caller FYI bruce Gneez I'm disappointed, I thought I was the one you wanted dead
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:13:00 - [194] Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 15:13:47 Originally by: blue strigoy blah blah worthless troll blah blah It was risk to take on such a large fleet with so few, it was skill that killed all those ships with such few losses. So how bad did you get bent over by BE bud are you sill sore?.
white kight Earned In Blood	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:17:00 - [195] Edited by: white kight on 25/04/2008 15:17:30 Originally by: DHB WildCat Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Equin SATAN > FYI you **** with the wrong indy, pay back is going to be a *** Too bad you guys lost all that loot :(. Don't worry we got most of the expensive stuff back when all 6 of you ran away from my raven. And that was just 1 indy load, lots more where that came from. But the good news is you bought you and yours a special package deal when you decided it was a good idea to kill that indy. Our efforts to stay clear from you guys because of past relations was redirected. Get rich and fat, see ya soon. hehe Squish da beeeeeees! Yeah I decided to hull tank some of BS and jump blindly into 0.0 choke points..... why? Because its fun! All out of corp loses are accounted for as SATAN stated. To Bruce... honestly your improvement has been great since we last encountered you. I can tell you that during our time out there we did not use spies, or anything of the such. Thats my word, and I know its hard to "believe" but it is the truth. It was a pleasure playing computer and psychological games with you. I look forward to an even greater challenge in the future. WildCat The hull tanked phoon was genius and took us a while to kill. GJ dude.
blue strigoy elite armchair generals	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:26:00 - [196] Originally by: lecrotta So how bad did you get bent over by BE bud are you sill sore?. You try to troll me now. That is really sad ... Your stats sais only 1 thing: you risk almost never anything. No risk, no fun. You gaming style is very boring for the most eve players. Like I said.
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:28:00 - [197] Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 15:30:19 Originally by: blue strigoy Originally by: lecrotta So how bad did you get bent over by BE bud are you sill sore?. You try to troll me now. That is really sad ... Your stats sais only 1 thing: you risk almost never anything. No risk, no fun. You gaming style is very boring for the most eve players. Like I said. So taking on 40 ships including capitals and a titan with only 4 BS and tackle = no risk in your deluded world????. How much more risk can you ask for than that you silly little troll??????????.
blue strigoy elite armchair generals	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:40:00 - [198] Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 15:30:19 I need more and more ?????????? I might be a little emo Every player, who has no scout alt and jumps in another systems without knowing, what is expecting him, risks more than you etc.
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:45:00 - [199] Originally by: blue strigoy Every player, who has no scout alt and jumps in another systems without knowing, what is expecting him, risks more than you etc. I think either you are a total moron or your English is so bad that you have no idea about the difference between the words "stupidity" and "risk". Actually i think it may be both tbh as anybody who jumps through 0.0 gates without a scout or intel is not somebody who is a risk taker he is somebody who is a idiot.
white kight Earned In Blood	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:46:00 - [200] aaaah its like being back at school.............fight fight fight
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.04.25 16:42:00 - [201] Originally by: white kight The hull tanked phoon was genius and took us a while to kill. GJ dude. And that is why I dont reinsure them.... it was fun for everyone 8). WildCat
Trinity Trixx Caldari Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.25 16:55:00 - [202] Hey guys. First I want to say that I've flown alongside you guys and you're decent at what you do. But come on, to be honest, your tactics are, after x amount of years, boring and boring to read about. I couldn't get past page one as it was reading the same as any other BE Campaign thread. To boast those kills for BRUCE? You didn't even phase them. That alliance is huge and the number of kills is rather low for a month of killing and an alliance of 3000k+ members. That coupled with the fact they are an alliance that has a lot of inexperienced players (which consequently join to learn pvp) against players of your experience just tells me you guys are choosing easy targets. Why? Dunno, doesn't matter, but I can't jump on the BE 'good job omguwtfpwn' band wagon until I see you go against the caliber of pvp'ers that you yourselves claim to be. Disappointed guys, I know you can do better. <3 to old school BE whom I've flown with Trin
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.04.25 17:13:00 - [203] Originally by: Trinity Trixx Hey guys. First I want to say that I've flown alongside you guys and you're decent at what you do. But come on, to be honest, your tactics are, after x amount of years, boring and boring to read about. I couldn't get past page one as it was reading the same as any other BE Campaign thread. To boast those kills for BRUCE? You didn't even phase them. That alliance is huge and the number of kills is rather low for a month of killing and an alliance of 3000k+ members. That coupled with the fact they are an alliance that has a lot of inexperienced players (which consequently join to learn pvp) against players of your experience just tells me you guys are choosing easy targets. Why? Dunno, doesn't matter, but I can't jump on the BE 'good job omguwtfpwn' band wagon until I see you go against the caliber of pvp'ers that you yourselves claim to be. Disappointed guys, I know you can do better. <3 to old school BE whom I've flown with Trin Our tactics are the very essence of PVP. That is players fighting against players. Not ships against ships, but minds against minds. And our minds are better. You are confusing tactics with setups. A setup is what you use to leverage tactics. Going fast, or having lots of HP is not a tactic, thats a result of a setup. Being able to damp from 200k, cloak or insta pop frigs is a result of a setup. It will shape, but not ultimately define our tactics. They are defined by the situational awareness and responsiveness which our members continually demonstrate to be superior to all others. That is why we are the best. You on the other hand, have hit your proverbial glass ceiling and will never get much better because you don't understand this game at all.
Tenebrys Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.25 17:35:00 - [204] isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.04.25 17:48:00 - [205] Originally by: blue strigoy Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 15:30:19 I need more and more ?????????? I might be a little emo Every player, who has no scout alt and jumps in another systems without knowing, what is expecting him, risks more than you etc. You are a worthless poaster. That said you seem to also confuse bravery/taking risks with stupidity. Once again you are a worthless poaster, go play with traffic..... thanks k bye
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.04.25 17:48:00 - [206] Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region BOB IS better than you. Our corp has none of the same weaknesses as BOB.
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.04.25 17:54:00 - [207] Originally by: Trinity Trixx Hey guys. First I want to say that I've flown alongside you guys and you're decent at what you do. But come on, to be honest, your tactics are, after x amount of years, boring and boring to read about. I couldn't get past page one as it was reading the same as any other BE Campaign thread. To boast those kills for BRUCE? You didn't even phase them. That alliance is huge and the number of kills is rather low for a month of killing and an alliance of 3000k+ members. That coupled with the fact they are an alliance that has a lot of inexperienced players (which consequently join to learn pvp) against players of your experience just tells me you guys are choosing easy targets. Why? Dunno, doesn't matter, but I can't jump on the BE 'good job omguwtfpwn' band wagon until I see you go against the caliber of pvp'ers that you yourselves claim to be. Disappointed guys, I know you can do better. <3 to old school BE whom I've flown with Trin I can say this with total confidence. We, the members of BURN EDEN do not reciprocate said feelings of <3. You are one of the main reasons alektorophobia was a colossal failure. You had no idea back then and I suspect you still have close to no clue. But people take you seriously because your a chick and internet spaceships is populated by lonely, sad, single guys.
Tenebrys Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.25 17:57:00 - [208] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region BOB IS better than you. Our corp has none of the same weaknesses as BOB. wow question does it ever start to sting from those palms of yours slapping into your pasty white chest all day long
Minokou The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.25 17:57:00 - [209] Edited by: Minokou on 25/04/2008 18:00:33 Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Trinity Trixx stuff That is why we are the best. You on the other hand, have hit your proverbial glass ceiling and will never get much better because you don't understand this game at all. It's obvious that you (as in BE) have an excellent understanding of game mechanics, and how to get the very last piece of PvP performance within the limitations of the game. However, the "we are the best" statement is inherently flawed as there is no common standard of what best means. You ask any number of people, and you will end up with just about as many opinions as to the definition of "best". You said yourself that it's not about ships, but also about minds. Following that line of thought, different rationales are applied to any action. To some you are the worst griefers in EVE, to some you are the most successful PvPers of all times (not that those two are mutually exclusive). It's just to illustrate the point that "best" is relative. In terms of BRUCE forum quotes, perhaps you should have had a spy in BRUCE, because they you would see that those quotes are largely taken out of context. What does it mean if in an alliance of 3500+ toons a extremely small percentage complains about cloaking gankers? Sure, someone got upset about losing a ship or five, but hey, that's business as usual in 0.0. In an alliance of the size of BRUCE, there are literally thousands of "flights" per day. A flight being a person moving from A to B. Over the period of your campaign there were easily over 150,000 successful flights. BE put a sudden end to a few hundred of them. Yes, those who lost ships were inconvenienced as they had to deal with reimbursement requests and replacement logistics. By and large though the BE campagin wasn't any different than any other cloakers who show up in Fountain. Before BE it was a set of BoB recons, after BE some Goons showed up. That's what life in 0.0 is like and except those who are new to 0.0 everyone knows that since the current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space. Edit: Forgot to mention that you got the quotes wrong. You quoted me as saying that we should have a permanent clean-up squad, when I was the one who wrote that I popped all the friendly wrecks in 75FA. ;)
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.04.25 18:05:00 - [210] Originally by: Minokou The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space. Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory.

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