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blue strigoy elite armchair generals	Posted - 2008.04.25 18:16:00 - [211] Originally by: Evil Pookie I am a worthless poaster. true. Sry, but I see no proof, why you are the best players in eve. How you want to proof that? Most of your play time you sit somewhere cloaked, because it is too dangerous for you out there in eve! An embarrassing ship loss could happen.
Minokou The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.25 18:50:00 - [212] Originally by: lecrotta Originally by: Minokou The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space. Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory. Well, the discussion about which benefits the upcoming sov levels should bring is for another topic really. Still, given the fact that hostile cloakers can't be removed, and that the cloakers are the one's who choose the time and place of the engagement, it's not surprising that they are able to create any number of losses without many losses of their own. I can appreciate that someone takes the time to really think game mechanics through, test them out, refine them, and apply them exceedingly well. What I can't appreciate is the sensationalist attitude that follows. BE popped a few hundred ships. So what? The outcome of that campaign couldn't have been any different, neither was it any different than any other BE campaign, nor is it any different than the campaigns of many other cloakers all across EVE. It's easy to take a statistic and make it work for you (recommended reading: How to Lie with Statistics, Darell Huff), but once those stats are being put in perspective, they then become are far less extraordinary.
Jasese The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.04.25 19:33:00 - [213] Why the hate from goons to burn eden, back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ******* gods.
Equin Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.25 19:40:00 - [214] Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden, back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ***** gods. They are pretty full of themselves and the they talked when we killed their neutral hauler was annoying. I don't care who you are take that ** like a man don't hurf blurf about "oh you killed the wrong hauler" like we should be scared of you.
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.25 20:18:00 - [215] Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 25/04/2008 20:18:57 Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden, back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ***** gods. turns out you were self-absorbed ***s whose understanding of pvp was limited entirely to uncloaking a dozen ravens to kill a hauler woops EX. us killing a be hauler full of loot that warped into one of our gangs and satan threatening us with TERRIBLE RETRIBUTION U MESSED WIT DA WRONG NPC CORP HAULER, M8S
Tabare Vazquez Uruguay Forever	Posted - 2008.04.25 20:24:00 - [216] Originally by: Minokou Originally by: lecrotta Originally by: Minokou The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space. Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory. Well, the discussion about which benefits the upcoming sov levels should bring is for another topic really. Still, given the fact that hostile cloakers can't be removed, and that the cloakers are the one's who choose the time and place of the engagement, it's not surprising that they are able to create any number of losses without many losses of their own. I can appreciate that someone takes the time to really think game mechanics through, test them out, refine them, and apply them exceedingly well. What I can't appreciate is the sensationalist attitude that follows. BE popped a few hundred ships. So what? The outcome of that campaign couldn't have been any different, neither was it any different than any other BE campaign, nor is it any different than the campaigns of many other cloakers all across EVE. It's easy to take a statistic and make it work for you (recommended reading: How to Lie with Statistics, Darell Huff), but once those stats are being put in perspective, they then become are far less extraordinary. BRUCE members are not supposed to post on public forums, remember?
Von Druid Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.04.25 20:27:00 - [217] Originally by: Minokou Well, the discussion about which benefits the upcoming sov levels should bring is for another topic really. Still, given the fact that hostile cloakers can't be removed, and that the cloakers are the one's who choose the time and place of the engagement, it's not surprising that they are able to create any number of losses without many losses of their own. I can appreciate that someone takes the time to really think game mechanics through, test them out, refine them, and apply them exceedingly well. What I can't appreciate is the sensationalist attitude that follows. BE popped a few hundred ships. So what? The outcome of that campaign couldn't have been any different, neither was it any different than any other BE campaign, nor is it any different than the campaigns of many other cloakers all across EVE. It's easy to take a statistic and make it work for you (recommended reading: How to Lie with Statistics, Darell Huff), but once those stats are being put in perspective, they then become are far less extraordinary. That's a pretty long post for basically saying that you don't care about losing a large amount of ships to a tiny number of players.
SATAN BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.04.25 20:59:00 - [218] Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden, back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ******* gods. Make no mistake they still do, that is why they hang on every word or sentence one of us says.
Equin Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.25 21:15:00 - [219] Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden, back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ******* gods. Make no mistake they still do, that is why they hang on every word or sentence one of us says. Given the volume of our posting we must worship everyone in eve.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.04.25 21:32:00 - [220] Originally by: Tekka Well Straife if PL changes its tactics to something other than nanoboringsamethingoverandoveragain then I'll drop by and give you some special love too I'm not smacking PL you're good at what you do, just bored of the whole nano thing, try something new. To reply in a respectful manner, if I told you I was bored of you bring 100 man fleets comprised mainly of RR BSs to fight us, would you stop doing it? No ofc not. You fight your way, we shall fight ours. Also, I seem to remember being in the gang last week when we brought 40 BS up to you and got blueballed :(
TZeer BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.04.25 22:21:00 - [221] Originally by: blue strigoy Originally by: Evil Pookie I am a worthless poaster. true. Sry, but I see no proof, why you are the best players in eve. How you want to proof that? Most of your play time you sit somewhere cloaked, because it is too dangerous for you out there in eve! An embarrassing ship loss could happen. STOP IT!! YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR E-HONOUR!!! Btw, posting with an alt is bad m`kay...
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.25 22:49:00 - [222] Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region And has had more fleet fights per day, and more fun per round, this year than any other? If we can get some more, we'll trade you the last region for it... oh wait, you tried that, and fell on your faces. Failboat departing, next stop, the north?
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.04.25 22:52:00 - [223] Originally by: Martin VanBuren Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden, back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ***** gods. turns out you were self-absorbed *s whose understanding of pvp was limited entirely to uncloaking a dozen ravens to kill a hauler umm.. Just to check, are you saying udie or goonies turned out to be self-absorbed ***s with a limited understanding of PVP?
Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.04.25 22:57:00 - [224] Originally by: Trinity Trixx Hey guys. That alliance is huge and the number of kills is rather low for a month of killing and an alliance of 3000k+ members. Trin Bruce is that big?? wowzer
Rejected Enlightenment Habitual Euthanasia	Posted - 2008.04.25 23:39:00 - [225] Originally by: Minokou Originally by: lecrotta Originally by: Minokou The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space. Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory. Well, the discussion about which benefits the upcoming sov levels should bring is for another topic really. Still, given the fact that hostile cloakers can't be removed, and that the cloakers are the one's who choose the time and place of the engagement, it's not surprising that they are able to create any number of losses without many losses of their own. I can appreciate that someone takes the time to really think game mechanics through, test them out, refine them, and apply them exceedingly well. What I can't appreciate is the sensationalist attitude that follows. BE popped a few hundred ships. So what? The outcome of that campaign couldn't have been any different, neither was it any different than any other BE campaign, nor is it any different than the campaigns of many other cloakers all across EVE. It's easy to take a statistic and make it work for you (recommended reading: How to Lie with Statistics, Darell Huff), but once those stats are being put in perspective, they then become are far less extraordinary. Don't think Freddy will be too happy with your posting Mino. Say 'sup to Kug for me while you're at it.
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.04.26 01:23:00 - [226] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region And has had more fleet fights per day, and more fun per round, this year than any other? If we can get some more, we'll trade you the last region for it... oh wait, you tried that, and fell on your faces. Failboat departing, next stop, the north? This is why I love Bob...... "bring it on" attitude 8). WildCat
Tenebrys Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.26 02:03:00 - [227] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region And has had more fleet fights per day, and more fun per round, this year than any other? If we can get some more, we'll trade you the last region for it... oh wait, you tried that, and fell on your faces. Failboat departing, next stop, the north? wtf just asking i mean stuckup attitudes change corp/alliances you went from that whole 'we want to dominate eve' thing to the 'we want good fights' attitude wouldnt be surprised if burn's whole 'we want to kill **' attitude went to 'we want to decloak on ** and pretend that we dont have to get a new tactic when this one is countered because were already the best' at some point i mean srsly im not here for the fighting anyways just an economics dweeb like that qen guy dont mind the fighting but it isnt all what eve is being better at fighting doesnt make you absolutely better etc
Tenebrys Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.26 02:05:00 - [228] oh and btw i joined this corp and it joined rk about a month ago so its not like i represent it or read history books etc
ZenTex Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.26 02:54:00 - [229] Edited by: ZenTex on 26/04/2008 02:56:28 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region ... we'll trade you the last region for it... oh wait, you tried that, and fell on your faces... Failboat departing, next stop, the north? Hmm. We havent tried that actually. Since the RA incident last year RK havent been involved in the war. Nice try... Edit: And burn Eden, when you're bored of ganking, will you ever try to actually be of someinfluence in the EVE universe? There's little a sledgehammer can't fix. If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer. If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
DOARota Gallente Drones Of Annihilation.	Posted - 2008.04.26 05:03:00 - [230] Originally by: ZenTex Edited by: ZenTex on 26/04/2008 02:56:28 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region ... we'll trade you the last region for it... oh wait, you tried that, and fell on your faces... Failboat departing, next stop, the north? Hmm. We havent tried that actually. Since the RA incident last year RK havent been involved in the war. Nice try... Edit: And burn Eden, when you're bored of ganking, will you ever try to actually be of someinfluence in the EVE universe? I've been away for a while but at 8 pages I'd say they're influencing you a fair bit
lecrotta lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2008.04.26 09:10:00 - [231] Originally by: ZenTex And burn Eden, when you're bored of ganking, will you ever try to actually be of someinfluence in the EVE universe? Influence?...like who you?... the only influence you have is over your members by convincing them that watching a frozen screen for hours to gain space they will proly never profit from is a good idea. Unfortunately BE do not recruit idiots so they could never do that.
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.04.26 09:54:00 - [232] Edited by: Evil Pookie on 26/04/2008 09:57:24 Originally by: lecrotta Originally by: ZenTex And burn Eden, when you're bored of ganking, will you ever try to actually be of someinfluence in the EVE universe? Influence?...like who you?... the only influence you have is over your members by convincing them that watching a frozen screen for hours to gain space they will proly never profit from is a good idea. Unfortunately BE do not recruit idiots so they could never do that. null I dunno, some colossal idiots have burn eden in their employment history. Just sayin! And whilst I am just sayin, dont suggest that someone play with traffic, because this gets you a warning. AND NOONE WANTS THAT! I <3 GM NOVA, ZULUPORK and the forum moderation team!
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.04.26 10:14:00 - [233] Originally by: thoth foc umm.. Just to check, are you saying udie or goonies turned out to be self-absorbed *****s with a limited understanding of PVP? Don't worry you're lot are still top of the list when it comes to this. Trying to sell the greatest defeat in Eve to this date as a victory.
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2008.04.26 12:06:00 - [234] Originally by: Minokou ...an alliance of 3500+ toons... Good that you have toons in your alliance. Maybe you can get a movie contract with Walt Disney Studios. The rest of us will stick with our good old chars, thank you. EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.26 12:18:00 - [235] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: thoth foc umm.. Just to check, are you saying udie or goonies turned out to be self-absorbed *****s with a limited understanding of PVP? Don't worry you're lot are still top of the list when it comes to this. Trying to sell the greatest defeat in Eve to this date as a victory. ofc it's a defeat if you're still standing, or in fact pushing back, when up against such a cryalition of losers such as yourself. just sayin. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
zeroh Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.04.26 12:30:00 - [236] Go burn eden woot! im an original member so essentially go me yay! lol
BRUCEALT4U	Posted - 2008.04.26 15:49:00 - [237] Originally by: Minokou Originally by: lecrotta Originally by: Minokou The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space. Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory. Well, the discussion about which benefits the upcoming sov levels should bring is for another topic really. Still, given the fact that hostile cloakers can't be removed, and that the cloakers are the one's who choose the time and place of the engagement, it's not surprising that they are able to create any number of losses without many losses of their own. I can appreciate that someone takes the time to really think game mechanics through, test them out, refine them, and apply them exceedingly well. What I can't appreciate is the sensationalist attitude that follows. BE popped a few hundred ships. So what? The outcome of that campaign couldn't have been any different, neither was it any different than any other BE campaign, nor is it any different than the campaigns of many other cloakers all across EVE. It's easy to take a statistic and make it work for you (recommended reading: How to Lie with Statistics, Darell Huff), but once those stats are being put in perspective, they then become are far less extraordinary. BRUCE is implementing an Eve-online ôCAODö & SHC ôWar & Politicsö forum posting ban for all non-diplomats/CEOs. First offense: Warning (to be followed by offender editing out of CAOD post) Second offense: 100M fine and final warning (to be followed by editing out of CAOD post) Third offense: Boot Failure to edit out post when warned will result in a boot. No alt positing either. Alts will be treated same as a playerÆs main. FIRED
Ztrain Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.26 18:25:00 - [238] Quote: Originally by: HoxothulI think he refered to the fact that yesterday BE shut down the outpost in 7bx by throwing a bubble at the dock, basically shutting down 50-60 bruce members or so. I read that and the scene from Batman with the joker came to mind while he was reading the news papper. "Wait'll they get a load of BoB....." Z
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.04.26 18:31:00 - [239] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: thoth foc umm.. Just to check, are you saying udie or goonies turned out to be self-absorbed *****s with a limited understanding of PVP? Don't worry you're lot are still top of the list when it comes to this. Trying to sell the greatest defeat in Eve to this date as a victory. Who is trying to sell what here? ------------------
Khayman33 Section XIII	Posted - 2008.04.26 18:40:00 - [240] You trying to sell your " skill " a at fight etc .... Whining with a non BoB character etc to protect you . You need to go ask thol how to get e-ball

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