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oustade Habalu
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.29 18:16:00 -
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After the recent threads about the latest ban on bots and the Dev promise to explain some of what happen in a soon to be dev blog, I would like to request that a GÇ£Hall Of ShameGÇ¥ thread and/or forum section be created, obviously only post there the confirmed after petitioned cases, the ones that were verified and have no doubts about the infractions.
I believe this is shared by most if not all of the community, if this is the case please show your support. |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
96
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Posted - 2012.02.29 18:20:00 -
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oustade Habalu wrote:After the recent threads about the latest ban on bots and the Dev promise to explain some of what happen in a soon to be dev blog, I would like to request that a GÇ£Hall Of ShameGÇ¥ thread and/or forum section be created, obviously only post there the confirmed after petitioned cases, the ones that were verified and have no doubts about the infractions.
I believe this is shared by most if not all of the community, if this is the case please show your support.
Do a forum search for "Name and Shame."
This is a policy CCP has had for eight years. They will not name and shame, period.
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
450
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Posted - 2012.02.29 18:25:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:oustade Habalu wrote:After the recent threads about the latest ban on bots and the Dev promise to explain some of what happen in a soon to be dev blog, I would like to request that a GÇ£Hall Of ShameGÇ¥ thread and/or forum section be created, obviously only post there the confirmed after petitioned cases, the ones that were verified and have no doubts about the infractions.
I believe this is shared by most if not all of the community, if this is the case please show your support. Do a forum search for "Name and Shame." This is a policy CCP has had for eight years. They will not name and shame, period.
^^This
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Pod Potato
WARLOCKS
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Posted - 2012.02.29 18:33:00 -
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Shaming and blacklisting people is wrong... And, just like that I contributed nothing to this thread. |
SgtGoodEnd
Aliastra Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.29 20:03:00 -
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I don't see any wrong with this, in fact its a great idea!
+1 |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
100
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Posted - 2012.02.29 20:09:00 -
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How do I get on this wall of shame? Do I get a badge or anything? |
Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
171
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:21:00 -
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+1
Do it CCP!!! "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
96
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:29:00 -
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Mai Khumm wrote:+1
Do it CCP!!!
Give me an "EN!"
Give me an "E!"
Give me a "VEE!"
Give me an "E!"
Give me an "AR!"
Seriously, do you need pompoms? They have teams of lawyers advising them - specifically - to not name and shame.
What do you think they're going to do? Follow the advice of a couple of ninnies who want the names listed in the EULA so they know exactly what's in the sandbox?
Probably not. It doesn't require any thought at all. Hence the reason for all the hubbub, I suppose. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
457
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:33:00 -
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Why, what prurpose does the hall of shame, for not being a good botter and getting caught provide? disorientating |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
96
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:36:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Why, what prurpose does the hall of shame, for not being a good botter and getting caught provide?
This is precisely where their argument falters in the face of the legions of lawyers.
He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
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Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
131
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:38:00 -
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oustade Habalu wrote:I believe this is shared by most if not all of the community, if this is the case please show your support..
Except by the botters, cheats, and their friends.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1139
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:42:00 -
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I can't think of a single company that has ever named the characters or accounts banned for any reason. I wouldn't imagine it s a good policy at all to do so. I wouldn't expect this to happen. Frankly I don't care to even see any of that information. A devblog telling me that they did it is good enough for me. I doubt they would blatantly lie about it. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
96
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:48:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I can't think of a single company that has ever named the characters or accounts banned for any reason. I wouldn't imagine it s a good policy at all to do so. I wouldn't expect this to happen. Frankly I don't care to even see any of that information. A devblog telling me that they did it is good enough for me. I doubt they would blatantly lie about it.
Even if they did lie about it, you'd still pay to play in one form or another.
See also: Ghost Training. Lies? So what? Must. Have. SPACECRACK! He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
124
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:51:00 -
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Botters will sell bot-plagued characters after their temp ban is up.
If a non-botter buys a character and transfers it to his account, his account is now contaminated.
If CCP refuse (for whatever reason) to publicly mark/flag a character that has been banned at least once for botting activity, the character should be perma-locked to the bot-contaminated account where it was when the ban took place, with permanently biomassing it being the only way to separate it from the account.
That will avoid spreading the plague around. Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |
The Offerer
Republic University Minmatar Republic
75
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Posted - 2012.02.29 22:58:00 -
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oustade Habalu wrote:After the recent threads about the latest ban on bots and the Dev promise to explain some of what happen in a soon to be dev blog, I would like to request that a GÇ£Hall Of ShameGÇ¥ thread and/or forum section be created, obviously only post there the confirmed after petitioned cases, the ones that were verified and have no doubts about the infractions.
I believe this is shared by most if not all of the community, if this is the case please show your support.
Name and shame of what? Generic masses of characters specifically made for sole purpose of botting with random generated names? |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
347
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Posted - 2012.03.01 02:32:00 -
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Palovana wrote:Botters will sell bot-plagued characters after their temp ban is up.
If a non-botter buys a character and transfers it to his account, his account is now contaminated.
If CCP refuse (for whatever reason) to publicly mark/flag a character that has been banned at least once for botting activity, the character should be perma-locked to the bot-contaminated account where it was when the ban took place, with permanently biomassing it being the only way to separate it from the account.
That will avoid spreading the plague around.
I like this. If a Character is ever banned (even temp banned) for botting, it should be disallowed from any character transfers. Biomass or keep it, but you cannot sell it.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
747
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Posted - 2012.03.01 04:36:00 -
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Palovana wrote:Botters will sell bot-plagued characters after their temp ban is up.
If a non-botter buys a character and transfers it to his account, his account is now contaminated.
If CCP refuse (for whatever reason) to publicly mark/flag a character that has been banned at least once for botting activity, the character should be perma-locked to the bot-contaminated account where it was when the ban took place, with permanently biomassing it being the only way to separate it from the account.
That will avoid spreading the plague around.
All characters should be locked to the acct that created them. Period.
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Brock Nelson
378
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Posted - 2012.03.01 04:45:00 -
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I think I got into the hall of shame once, but they had to kick me out because apparently, masterbating in the open is not allowed. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
Fly byNighter
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.01 06:47:00 -
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+1 |
Atreides Leto
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.03.01 15:30:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote: Trolling
You seem to be Butthurt, or affraid of...
Mr Epeen wrote:Palovana wrote:Botters will sell bot-plagued characters after their temp ban is up.
If a non-botter buys a character and transfers it to his account, his account is now contaminated.
If CCP refuse (for whatever reason) to publicly mark/flag a character that has been banned at least once for botting activity, the character should be perma-locked to the bot-contaminated account where it was when the ban took place, with permanently biomassing it being the only way to separate it from the account.
That will avoid spreading the plague around. All characters should be locked to the acct that created them. Period. Mr Epeen
Agree on both counts.
+1
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1293
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:04:00 -
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Botters should not only be shamed, they should be stuffed in a sack and beaten with hammers.
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
295
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Posted - 2012.03.01 18:46:00 -
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Palovana wrote:Botters will sell bot-plagued characters after their temp ban is up.
If a non-botter buys a character and transfers it to his account, his account is now contaminated.
If CCP refuse (for whatever reason) to publicly mark/flag a character that has been banned at least once for botting activity, the character should be perma-locked to the bot-contaminated account where it was when the ban took place, with permanently biomassing it being the only way to separate it from the account.
That will avoid spreading the plague around.
CCP SREEGS wrote:BUT WAIT, THERE IS EVEN MORE! From now on, and this current wave is included, characters who receive a warning such as this will have the characters locked to the account. This means that once you've received a warning for botting your character transfer privileges have been revoked in perpetuity. This is to prevent people trying to circumvent the rules by recycling accounts. Yes we know people pointed out this could happen last time around and if you'll remember we said "We'll keep an eye on it and if it becomes a problem we'll deal with it". Here is us dealing with it. We'll probably have to come up with some form of timing solution for the future, but as it stands today it's forever. If you care about your dudes don't to bad things.
Can't see why CCP couldn't publish the in-game names of the toons that got warned. In game infraction, in game reaction.
Name and shame them.
(would also serve to show who tolerates botters in their corp!).
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Azorean
State War Academy Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.03.02 14:54:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Can't see why CCP couldn't publish the in-game names of the toons that got warned. In game infraction, in game reaction.
Name and shame them.
(would also serve to show who tolerates botters in their corp!).
This!
Name and Shame Them
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Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
55
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:03:00 -
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I don't see the point of 'name and shame'.
They'll probably be out of the game anyway, and if for some reason the character is still used then they would be discriminated against regardless of the reasoning for them still being ingame.
So if CCPs policy is not to name and shame they should just stick to it.
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Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
393
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:22:00 -
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I would like to add Tippia to the hall of shame.
Not because there are any kind of mining or ratting bot
but
because there answers on these forums are so inane and stupid that it must be a badly written computer programme with a limited lexicon and no understanding of human communication.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Soporo
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:22:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Mai Khumm wrote:+1
Do it CCP!!! Seriously, do you need pompoms? They have teams of lawyers advising them - specifically - to not name and shame. What do you think they're going to do? Follow the advice of a couple of ninnies who want the names listed in the EULA so they know exactly what's in the sandbox? Probably not. It doesn't require any thought at all. Hence the reason for all the hubbub, I suppose.
Fine.
Then name and shame the corps and, particularly, alliances and show us some numbers. Should be no legal problem with that. Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1356
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:54:00 -
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Awesome ideas..
And totally meaningless..
What is the point of having some list of names public to everyone, providing exactly nothing informative and having no consequences whatsoever.
Awesome meaningless ideas, You should be in parliament. |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
98
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Posted - 2012.03.02 18:03:00 -
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Soporo wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Mai Khumm wrote:+1
Do it CCP!!! Seriously, do you need pompoms? They have teams of lawyers advising them - specifically - to not name and shame. What do you think they're going to do? Follow the advice of a couple of ninnies who want the names listed in the EULA so they know exactly what's in the sandbox? Probably not. It doesn't require any thought at all. Hence the reason for all the hubbub, I suppose. Fine. Then name and shame the corps and, particularly, alliances and show us some numbers. Should be no legal problem with that.
There is a little bit of a legal problem there. Making you part of the afore-mentioned group of poorly advised CCP advisors.
In one question I can outline the legal issue of naming and shaming groups of people:
What about the people in said corps/alliances who did not violate any EULA items?
Hmmm?
I'll say this once more, hopefully you can get your head around it:
CCP will not ever name and shame.
You, however, can have all the shame you like. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
oustade Habalu
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2012.03.02 19:29:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote: What is the point of having some list of names public to everyone It appears you may have some difficulty understanding the meaning of GÇ£ShamingGÇ¥ although I recon you are only trolling as some other couple figures in this thread.
Darth Gustav wrote: Words I was hoping you would troll away, however, sadly you keep on infesting this thread, this is a game, no one gives a rats ass to RL lawyers and other pathetic RL suggestions you have written, there's an EULA if someone break it there will be consequences, identifying someone that committed an infraction in a spaceship game has nothing to do with RL, what it seems to me and to others is that you are so much interested in not having a tag on these actions, makes me wonder...
In any case, CCP tags me if I do some pirating there will be a nice little skull to identify that I am a bad pixel, that also goes along side with SS.
I just edited the OP to reflect that instead of having a thread and or Forum section, please use some sort of tag, just as you do with pirating, I don't see any problem with that whatsoever, in fact I only see advantages, for CCP it will back their work on bots and to the ones thinking in doing these activities will be discouraging.
In closing, I only request that CCP put a Tag on these players, make them identifiable, thank you. |
Morrigu Storm
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
1
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:21:00 -
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Brand the *******!
Stick RMT a big "M" on their Avatars forhead for all to see depending what they have been caught doing!
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