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Ayms
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Ayms on 24/04/2004 19:18:18 Zombie is camping Atlar in Molden Heath, they are doing this in 0.4 system, at the gates and stations. How is this allowed to happen and for days, when CCP intentionally made changes to prevent this behavior in empire space.
And I don't want carebear arguments, its just the RULES as laid down by CCP. And we all know Zombie will turn a blind eye to them to grief people.
Rumors say their tanking against the sentry guns again and then leaving their range after they make the kill.
(Looks like Scorpion Corp too)
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:17:00 -
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They're sensor dampening the sentries, I think.
Not sure if it's allowed, tbh.
Shield-tanking sentries and target-jamming them were both fixed in successive patches........
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:18:00 -
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so?
CCP have no rules in eve.
They are not exploiting a bug or game defect.
Quit whinning you damm carebear
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Alkanine
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:21:00 -
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Josh isnt a carebear its just something CCP usually does is what hes pointing out -_-
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:22:00 -
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He was talking to the original poster 
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:23:00 -
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It's a game defect if it's not supposed to be able to happen. It would be exploiting a weakness. Oh, and it only took a few posts before the carebear argument reared it's ugly head. [sarcasam]Well done.[/sarcasam]
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Ayms
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:24:00 -
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*IF* they are sensor dampening or any other tactic that allows them to survive, they are exploiting, CCP has said that before, they don't have to announce its an exploit for it to be an exploit.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:25:00 -
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Indeed, someone ban them. Im trying to get a god damn tempest from horaka!!!  ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ayms Edited by: Ayms on 24/04/2004 19:18:18 Zombie is camping Atlar in Molden Heath, they are doing this in 0.4 system, at the gates and stations. How is this allowed to happen and for days, when CCP intentionally made changes to prevent this behavior in empire space.
And I don't want carebear arguments, its just the RULES as laid down by CCP. And we all know Zombie will turn a blind eye to them to grief people.
Rumors say their tanking against the sentry guns again and then leaving their range after they make the kill.
(Looks like Scorpion Corp too)
so what?
you want low sec to become even safer?
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Vangelis
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:26:00 -
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just avoid the Gelfivin gate to atlar go around through the ODDELULF gate i just did and no zombie there
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:26:00 -
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Well my dear muppets, since none of your opinions matter when it comes to bug abuse and exploiting, I think its best to SUBMIT A PETITION to find out if this is allowed or not, and If you're too ignorant/lazy to do that, its best to eat chocolate chip cookies and understand that the GMs/Devs decide whats "allowed" and what isnt. -
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:28:00 -
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Peanut butter cookies also work well.
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AbraKadaver
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:31:00 -
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Well Myxo lost his interceptor tonight,  ..:: Electro-shock therapy ::..
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Shield-tanking sentries ... fixed ...
Erm, how was that "fixed"?
And when did shield-tanking sentry guns in low-sec space become an exploit?!
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy
Quote: And when did shield-tanking sentry guns in low-sec space become an exploit?!
Never.
A certain race of fluffy pink cuties think it becomes an "exploit" when they whine about it enough.
I've sentry tanked many times, I've killed loads of people doing so, and I've done so in the presence of a GM AND I asked if it was an exploit several times before actually doing it.
Hugs and kisses to my purple and yellow friends.
GM's are pirates too, and here's the proof!
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:39:00 -
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Quote: And when did shield-tanking sentry guns in low-sec space become an exploit?!
Never.
A certain race of fluffy pink cuties think it becomes an "exploit" when they whine about it enough.
I've sentry tanked many times, I've killed loads of people doing so, and I've done so in the presence of a GM AND I asked if it was an exploit several times before actually doing it.
Hugs and kisses to my purple and yellow friends. -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:41:00 -
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No actually the one time I met GM White at a gate, I webbed and scrambled him and asked for a toll of 50mil, he simply replied "BAN?"
That was the end of that camp...  -
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AbraKadaver
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:43:00 -
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You've got balls, i'll give that to you vice.  ..:: Electro-shock therapy ::..
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:43:00 -
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Did you just repeat a discussion with a GM, Vice!?
BAN HIM!
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy No actually the one time I met GM White at a gate, I webbed and scrambled him and asked for a toll of 50mil, he simply replied "BAN?"
That was the end of that camp... 
GM's always have been cheap bastards.
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John McCreedy
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:44:00 -
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How can sensor dampening sentry guns possibly be an exploit? Sounds like a perfectly viable tatic to me. A warnings gone out so avoid the system.
Make a difference
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:46:00 -
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Tricky one to counter too unless you target the -5.0's only.
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Fuze Rogue
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:48:00 -
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Quote: Zombie is camping Atlar in Molden Heath, they are doing this in 0.4 system, at the gates and stations. How is this allowed to happen and for days, when CCP intentionally made changes to prevent this behavior in empire space.
And I don't want carebear arguments, its just the RULES as laid down by CCP. And we all know Zombie will turn a blind eye to them to grief people.
Rumors say their tanking against the sentry guns again and then leaving their range after they make the kill.
(Looks like Scorpion Corp too)
It wasnt just Zombie inc, and scorp co, there were also some guys from "SNEAK".
[rant] I don't usually rant on forums but FFS i lost my uninsured Thorax wich took me days to buy to those ******* morons, in atlar... next to the gate...
and as far as i know at least 10 other guys were killed in the last ******* hour! TBH if CCP doesnt respond to this by getting me a new ship and punishing these exploiters i know some ppl (including me) are gonna quit. Seriously wtf am i suppose to do when i lose a 100 million isk Battleship while im on autopilot... And to think, when the players finnally try to fix this (by sending a fleet to get rid of them) they all log off... the *****es...
PVP is fine BUT not in places where we are "suppose" to be safe.[/rant]
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:50:00 -
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Quote: PVP is fine BUT not in places where we are "suppose" to be safe

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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: McWatt on 24/04/2004 19:53:57
Originally by: Fuze Rogue It wasnt just Zombie inc, and scorp co, there were also some guys from "SNEAK".
[rant] I don't usually rant on forums but FFS i lost my uninsured Thorax wich took me days to buy to those ******* morons, in atlar... next to the gate...
and as far as i know at least 10 other guys were killed in the last ******* hour! TBH if CCP doesnt respond to this by getting me a new ship and punishing these exploiters i know some ppl (including me) are gonna quit. Seriously wtf am i suppose to do when i lose a 100 million isk Battleship while im on autopilot... And to think, when the players finnally try to fix this (by sending a fleet to get rid of them) they all log off... the *****es...
PVP is fine BUT not in places where we are "suppose" to be safe.[/rant]
lol.
uninsured? autopilot? exploit? "suppose" to be safe?
i give the game another 6 month before activating a weapon in 0.0 space will cause perma ban.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.04.24 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Fuze Rogue
Quote: Zombie is camping Atlar in Molden Heath, they are doing this in 0.4 system, at the gates and stations. How is this allowed to happen and for days, when CCP intentionally made changes to prevent this behavior in empire space.
And I don't want carebear arguments, its just the RULES as laid down by CCP. And we all know Zombie will turn a blind eye to them to grief people.
Rumors say their tanking against the sentry guns again and then leaving their range after they make the kill.
(Looks like Scorpion Corp too)
It wasnt just Zombie inc, and scorp co, there were also some guys from "SNEAK".
[rant] I don't usually rant on forums but FFS i lost my uninsured Thorax wich took me days to buy to those ******* morons, in atlar... next to the gate...
and as far as i know at least 10 other guys were killed in the last ******* hour! TBH if CCP doesnt respond to this by getting me a new ship and punishing these exploiters i know some ppl (including me) are gonna quit. Seriously wtf am i suppose to do when i lose a 100 million isk Battleship while im on autopilot... And to think, when the players finnally try to fix this (by sending a fleet to get rid of them) they all log off... the *****es...
PVP is fine BUT not in places where we are "suppose" to be safe.[/rant]
lol, don't undock in something that's uninsured in a camped system, and ehm if you're buying ships and are rather new and all, buy em in a high security system, 0.4 is NOT SAFE, NOT NOT NOT NOT F SAFE.
Can I have your stuff? ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Ayms
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Posted - 2004.04.24 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Ayms on 24/04/2004 20:17:13 Look I know the differnce in space 0.5 and 0.4, 0.4 is still empire and they make sure they are safe for commerce, hence the gates and stations are safe. The belts and what not are fair game, and I have been engaged at these before, and loast everytime btw. I am fine with that, thats the risk I took and I knew it. I also have no problem with same ship sheild and armor tanking. But coordinated camping of a gate, for hours, needs a response. And Concord will not allow a player reponse, they will just shoot everyone. (and before you complain to much, thats even a RP compatible answer)
And warning people with this thread was also an intent, but not the primary.
And to the previous post, it is SAFE SAFE SAFE, at gates and stations. That is the difference between 1.0-0.5 and 0.4-0.1, 0.0 is UNSAFE always. Why can't some many people see that 0.4-0.1 is a grey area?
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.04.24 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ayms (and before you complain to much, thats even a RP compatible answer)
so you re roleplaying a carebear?
interesting. i ll start a griefer char soon!
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Why can't some many people see that 0.4-0.1 is a grey area?
asks who? (sorry in advance if you re blind)
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.04.24 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Viceroy on 24/04/2004 20:24:27 Nowhere is safe, not even 1.0. TomB said it himself, praise his supreme highness.
0.4 is hardly safe at all, and just because there's guns at the gates doesnt mean its 100% safe. No one ever said "IF THERE'S GUNS SOMEWHERE, ITS CONSIDERED 100% SAFE", but people usually assume it is.
Wake up, it aint!
(And yea, i've been blasted in 0.4 too, i'm fine with it ) -
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AbraKadaver
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Posted - 2004.04.24 20:24:00 -
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Seems like a horrendous waste of time/effort on zombie's behalf. What will it honestly achieve?  ..:: Electro-shock therapy ::..
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