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McWatt	Posted - 2004.04.26 10:46:00 - [211] Edited by: McWatt on 26/04/2004 10:53:13 Originally by: Gariuys And this is where all the confusion seems to come from, empire space has security ratings going from 0.0-1.0, this security rating defines the NPCs in the belts, the quality of ore, and it defines the actuall real player SECURITY of the system .... You seem to be failing to grasp this simple concept. seconded. this topic has become completly stupid. i m looking forward to a "you have to die if attacked by any NPC" rule. will make spawning somewhat interesting and combine well with the new NPC pirtaes at gates. btw, that shira is hiding behind an alt is a clear proof of her little combat experience. she seems to be thinking that ppl could punish her under the current state of the PvP system if she gave away the name of her main. lol.
ClarCE	Posted - 2004.04.26 11:08:00 - [212] /me hands out some chill pills --'The Way is Shut'-- ----------------------- Jenny...Get to the Chopper---Stick Around -----------------------
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.26 12:27:00 - [213] Well, this is only like the 4th time where I'm stating that the GM did NOT mention ANYTHING about whether sentry tanking is not an exploit. My question has NOT been answered. How many times do I have to repeat this? Can't you guys, like, READ for a change? After all that many posts after my last one, only one is worth digging through. Quote: Actually that is exactly right. Sentry guns are there to deter non-stop camping. right next to the gate. CONCORD spawns for one reason and one reason only to kill you for initiating a transgression. 1. I want to see where it says that the only reason CONCORD exist is to kill people for initiating a transgression. 2. non-stop camping? Sentry tankers can't camp non stop? That's the whole point of sentry tanking, they by pass their ability to get rid of people. 3. So sentry guns aren't supposed to kill people who are aggressive within their range? Quote: You entire "argument" hinges on ppl being to lazy to dig around on this forum and the fan sites to find the posts for you. Which brings up my other point, why isn't this saved in the FAQ? Quote: Why should he back up his point when all you do is arguing over a topic from you POV without any arguments whatsoever but the fact you say it shouldn't be so? Because the definition (even their own definition) so far can't state that I'm wrong. So someone else needs to tell me why it's not, and how it doesn't contradict with their own actions/definitions. From this point, the relevancy is going pretty downhill. I actually don't feel like replying... Quote: The most important one being that there is a big difference between a 1.0 and a 0.4 system. And that somehow justifies taking advantage of the same type of actions that were deemed exploits in higher empire space areas? Also, you might want to check the first part of this post to go over the relevant things (like concord and sentry guns). Quote: So the situation you use as your "proof" that it's a exploit is a situation you know nothing about. Actually, I do know something about concord and sentry tanking. What are YOU talking about? Quote: Dealing with exploiters is indeed not your job, but what's also NOT your job is deciding what is and what is not a exploit, so stop trying. Not officially no, but I sure as hell can bring up the issues of what are exploits and what not. Quote: And this is where all the confusion seems to come from, empire space has security ratings going from 0.0-1.0, this security rating defines the NPCs in the belts, the quality of ore, and it defines the actuall real player SECURITY of the system with 1.0 being pretty close to 100% secure with insane NPC/sentry gun presence, and 0.0 giving no NPC security at all. You seem to be failing to grasp this simple concept. I still don't see how this justifies sentry tanking as NOT an exploit, while it is in 1.0 space and what not. Quote: ROFLMAO, just realised just how badly I've been wasting my time. They're camping a 0.4 gate ( only sentries there ) they're tanking the sentries ( or dampening them or whatever ) a GM says that the above doesn't involve any exploits. And you go and post that. Hopeless. ( oh and I suggest any corps this idiot applies to seriously keep in mind that she comes with a buttload of instant war declerations ) Nowhere was mentioned that they were sentry tanking...oops? Yah. McWatt Does the word 'war' mean ANYTHING to you? ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
PainBall	Posted - 2004.04.26 12:34:00 - [214] post with your main kkthxbye
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.26 12:42:00 - [215] Edited by: Shira Tandaria on 26/04/2004 12:45:03 This discussion would go a lot smoother if the zombie dudes just state what they did exactly. If it is indeed full time sentry tanking, then we at least know the answer to the what. All I need to know after that is the why. Given the avg intelligence displayed by the zombie characters, I'd say they're not revealing it simply because they weren't sentry tanking. Or an extremely mild version of sentry tanking, like avoiding the range a lot and tanking occasionally. ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
Triniton	Posted - 2004.04.26 12:51:00 - [216] Well dear shira u know where we are or atleast I think u know, why dont u come pay us a visit, learn something on your own instead of babbling here on the forums cos we aint about to tell everybody what it is we are doing ok? This thread should have ended after the GM came in for us and cleard this matter up. And btw thanks again GM grimmi. Now plz lock this thread or I start spamming ZOMBIE PRUNES!
Gariuys	Posted - 2004.04.26 12:54:00 - [217] Originally by: Shira Tandaria Edited by: Shira Tandaria on 26/04/2004 12:45:03 This discussion would go a lot smoother if the zombie dudes just state what they did exactly. If it is indeed full time sentry tanking, then we at least know the answer to the what. All I need to know after that is the why. Given the avg intelligence displayed by the zombie characters, I'd say they're not revealing it simply because they weren't sentry tanking. Or an extremely mild version of sentry tanking, like avoiding the range a lot and tanking occasionally. Pls please please post with your main, I would like to.. ehm... talk to you, that's it, talk. Talk and talk again and again and again and again and again and again and again, till all you can afford to fly is a shuttle. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.26 12:54:00 - [218] I don't know and couldn't care less about you people. Like I mentioned before, it stopped being about you guys after the first 15 posts or so in this thread. We're talking about exploits, sentry tanking/concord. If you want to join in feel free, if not leave. You can spam it all you want, I'll keep starting up new ones if I have to. ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
PainBall	Posted - 2004.04.26 12:56:00 - [219] the topic is about us , lock this damn thread already shira go start a new thread where you can babble all you want lock plz !
Steini OFSI	Posted - 2004.04.26 12:58:00 - [220] We were tanking sentries, GM says we weren't exploiting, hence tanking sentries isn't an exploit. Tanking CONCORD is an exploit, but sentries aren't CONCORD. Clear enough Shira?
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:00:00 - [221] Originally by: Steini OFSI We were tanking sentries, GM says we weren't exploiting, hence tanking sentries isn't an exploit. Tanking CONCORD is an exploit, but sentries aren't CONCORD. Clear enough Shira? Prove it? Show me some logs. ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:01:00 - [222] dudes, Zombie f***ing rock. Let's just leave it at that, eh? .
Winterblink	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:01:00 - [223] Originally by: Shira Tandaria Edited by: Shira Tandaria on 26/04/2004 12:45:03Given the avg intelligence displayed by the zombie characters, I'd say they're not revealing it simply because they weren't sentry tanking. Or an extremely mild version of sentry tanking, like avoiding the range a lot and tanking occasionally. Who's got the lower intelligence, those doing the tanking and camping, or those who don't keep an eye on the map to see which systems have a big red blob on them when you tell it to show ship kills? Or those who blindly autopilot through 0.4 systems with gigantic blobs on the map showing number of pilots in space? The reason Zombie and other corps like them are successful at what they do is because people continually flow through these systems like lemmings, thinking they're 100% safe when they should know better. I'm not saying it takes any skill at all to camp a gate with a tanked ship and blow up freighters, I'm saying a few extra seconds of paying attention can save people a lot of headaches later. ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie//
PainBall	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:02:00 - [224] LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK
Steini OFSI	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:02:00 - [225] are you focking retarded, I'm sorry for the swearingbut a GM comes where we are tanking, examine it and says it's ok, if you want a prove it's in Grimmi's answer... Or I sohouldn't reply because your probably doing this for the **** of it and know it already.
PainBall	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:03:00 - [226] LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCKLOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:04:00 - [227] Originally by: Steini OFSI are you focking retarded, I'm sorry for the swearingbut a GM comes where we are tanking, examine it and says it's ok, if you want a prove it's in Grimmi's answer... Or I sohouldn't reply because your probably doing this for the **** of it and know it already. Where does it/she say you're sentry tanking? NOWHERE Reading is definitely not your forte, eh? ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
Steini OFSI	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:06:00 - [228] Shira I love you, wanna bite my nipple in hot ******* action...
Viceroy	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:06:00 - [229] Darwin Award please! And Drunkenmaster, I have to agree, these vikings are teh win! -
Gariuys	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:07:00 - [230] Originally by: Shira Tandaria Originally by: Steini OFSI We were tanking sentries, GM says we weren't exploiting, hence tanking sentries isn't an exploit. Tanking CONCORD is an exploit, but sentries aren't CONCORD. Clear enough Shira? Prove it? Show me some logs. ROFLMAO, you have got to be kidding, a GM actually posted it, you can't mean this, Mod, we got a troll here. FIX IT and LOCK this damn thread. Oh and Zombie rocks :D ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:07:00 - [231] Originally by: Viceroy Darwin Award please! And Drunkenmaster, I have to agree, these vikings are teh win! baldy who owned himself :) Yes, you do deserve a Darwin Award :) ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:09:00 - [232] Quote: ROFLMAO, you have got to be kidding, a GM actually posted it, you can't mean this, Mod, we got a troll here. FIX IT and LOCK this damn thread. Oh and Zombie rocks :D You know, I've already said this over 5 times: she didn't say a damn thing about sentry tanking. And yes, YOU CAN'T PROVE SHE DID, CUZ SHE DIDN'T. OOPS Go back to school if you can't read? Pls? ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
Gariuys	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:11:00 - [233] Originally by: Shira Tandaria Originally by: Viceroy Darwin Award please! And Drunkenmaster, I have to agree, these vikings are teh win! baldy who owned himself :) Yes, you do deserve a Darwin Award :) Alts need to go, alts so need to go, the kind of pain you'd suffer in game if you had posted this with your main is beyond words, yet all that we can do now, is try to get this thread locked, and if possible you on a temp ban for trolling like a mofo. Anyone got some **** to post in here ( at work so not a good idea for me atm lol ) ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Steini OFSI	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:12:00 - [234] Shira, what about the hot steaming action with me?
Viceroy	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:12:00 - [235] Quote: baldy who owned himself :) According to forum lore, the the ultimate display of desperation is calling Viceroy bald. GG. -
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:13:00 - [236] Edited by: Shira Tandaria on 26/04/2004 13:14:36 I can't help it, I have to repeat the same thing 7 times, and you guys still don't see it. Blame yourself for being ehm...how to put this nicely..BLIND. Speaking of trolling, you guys are doing a fine job indeed... Hypocrites ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
Steini OFSI	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:15:00 - [237] I can't find my eyes
Gariuys	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:16:00 - [238] Originally by: Shira Tandaria Quote: ROFLMAO, you have got to be kidding, a GM actually posted it, you can't mean this, Mod, we got a troll here. FIX IT and LOCK this damn thread. Oh and Zombie rocks :D You know, I've already said this over 5 times: she didn't say a damn thing about sentry tanking. And yes, YOU CAN'T PROVE SHE DID, CUZ SHE DIDN'T. OOPS Go back to school if you can't read? Pls? /me is taking the bait cause maybe then someone will lock this damn thread. But first off, threesome? There's a pirate camping at a 0.4 gate, a GM goes there takes a look and decides it's not a exploit, the GM posts this in here, the pirate then comes in here and says that what he was doing was tanking the sentries. I can't read but your math is a bit lacking cause this is a clear cut case of 1+1=2. LOCK already? ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:16:00 - [239] Edited by: Shira Tandaria on 26/04/2004 13:17:23 Originally by: Viceroy Quote: baldy who owned himself :) According to forum lore, the the ultimate display of desperation is calling Viceroy bald. GG. The way you owned yourself like that, who wouldn't be desperately in need of some more intelligent company ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
Steini OFSI	Posted - 2004.04.26 13:16:00 - [240] Edited by: Steini OFSI on 26/04/2004 13:18:44 Edited by: Steini OFSI on 26/04/2004 13:18:09 Gariuys, yes you may join

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