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Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:29:00 - [31] Nah..0.1-1.0 is all safe in empire space... People saying that 0.4s are unsafe is just pure bull****. Now...go log on fit your iteron mkV with 27% expanders, load her up with rare minerals, hit autopilot and go make a cup of tea, cause everything is fine.....just fine
Ayms	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:30:00 - [32] OK I am fine with the not 100% safe bit, but this is repeated offense with little to no response. That is a long way from 100%, and thats the problem. And no I am not RPing a carebear, but people complain all the time about how things make no sence, and that RP reasons should allow things, well an RP resonse would be the Empires/Concord protecting citizens, thats my point. As for who asks, have you read these forums, poeple always wanna make it blake and white with the line drawn at 0.5/0.4 or 0.1/0.0, well there is no black and white, unfortunately there is JUST one shade of gray, but it covers 0.4-0.1. And CCP colored it white at gates and stations and black elsewhere. If these guys were creative they would move this gig around and noone would be the wiser, but that prolly a pain because, if they are messing with the guns it probably pretty tricky to setup. And at that I wouldn't be upset, even if they are exploiting because it would not be consentrated.
Ayms	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:31:00 - [33] As to what it will achieve? What Zombie seems in particular to be good at, grief for the sake of it.
Deadflip2	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:31:00 - [34] fame? --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!!
dalman	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:36:00 - [35] Originally by: Fuze Rogue Seriously wtf am i suppose to do when i lose a 100 million isk Battleship while im on autopilot... ROFLMAO You said yourself it's a _battleship_. Which != _ship_for_travelling_afk_on_autopilot_. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:37:00 - [36] Originally by: AbraKadaver Seems like a horrendous waste of time/effort on zombie's behalf. What will it honestly achieve? Lots of named expanders! I'm pretty sure the price of locals dropped a bit after the Yulai incident LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Lallante	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:49:00 - [37] simple proof its not an exploit: If you are not allowed to attack people at a gate in 0.4, why are there less sentry guns there than at gates in 1.0? Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
AbraKadaver	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:51:00 - [38] True, true. But Atlar isnt really a very important system, it's also very easy to avoid. Just seems odd to me. ..:: Electro-shock therapy ::..
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:52:00 - [39] I think Atlar has a lot of agent missions passing through it - that might be why there are plenty of afk pilots LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Ayms	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:55:00 - [40] Originally by: Lallante simple proof its not an exploit: If you are not allowed to attack people at a gate in 0.4, why are there less sentry guns there than at gates in 1.0? Thats fine if they are just tanking themselves(not shield xferring).
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:55:00 - [41] Regardless of what you think of a corporation blanket reporting their whereabouts like this for everyone to see is just in poor taste. Let others find out via their corporate and/or alliance networks. Convert Stations
Sochin	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:56:00 - [42] It seems unrealistic that zombie would be able to camp a 0.4 system for hours on end w/o any reprisal from CONCORD or whatever empire owns that system. Prehaps CCP should implement a system where when a PC ship is destroyed in empire space, CONCORD will send a patrol to investigate. In RL if you jack a car or kill someone there will be at least 10 cops in the area within 10 minutes. Why should it be different in EVE? I'm gonna go post this the idea lab.. Nemo me impune lacessit
Ayms	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:58:00 - [43] Originally by: Lallante simple proof its not an exploit: If you are not allowed to attack people at a gate in 0.4, why are there less sentry guns there than at gates in 1.0? Thats true and fine if they are just tanking to get past the guns, not shield transfering or any e-war on the turrets.
Mr nStuff	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:58:00 - [44] Well it's mostly a lame situation because no matter what, the good guy usually loses. If he's not hit by the sentry guns him self, he will most definitely lose alot of his Security Status battling multiple player pirates in empire space. 5 R&D Agents, 10months, Zero BPO Offers.. Onboard navigational [Planetary Avoidance] computer. My account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 19. September 2004
Neil Crow	Posted - 2004.04.24 20:59:00 - [45] Originally by: Ayms Originally by: Lallante simple proof its not an exploit: If you are not allowed to attack people at a gate in 0.4, why are there less sentry guns there than at gates in 1.0? Thats fine if they are just tanking themselves(not shield xferring). So now team work is an exploit! Sorry, but... Get a clue.
Ayms	Posted - 2004.04.24 21:02:00 - [46] If they are tanking to get past the fewer guns thats fine. As long as thats it, not shield x-fering or e-war on the turrets. And reporting a corps activities here is fine by me, I did't broadcast it in Trade or anything. It's a public medium, am I supposed to just keep quite about what they do?! Thats just silly to help any such activity if I am against it.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.04.24 21:03:00 - [47] It's very tough to counter - you lose SR (unless these guys have -5.0) and if you're hitting the ones without -5.0 they could warp out and there's every chance the sentries can turn on you. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Blooded Heromy	Posted - 2004.04.24 21:16:00 - [48] Damnit, now i want chockaltebiskuit to, stop talkin about those damn sweet cookies
AbraKadaver	Posted - 2004.04.24 21:21:00 - [49] And some of your guys were complaining i do too many drugs ..:: Electro-shock therapy ::..
Gan Howorth	Posted - 2004.04.24 22:49:00 - [50] Originally by: Ayms If they are tanking to get past the fewer guns thats fine. As long as thats it, not shield x-fering or e-war on the turrets. Sorry did TomB just die and leave you in charge or something? Sentry's can be tanked in any way the game allows. This is why there are MORE sentries as you move towards more secure systems. In fact Zombie have a lot to answer for. We now have all these frightful plebs running around proclaiming a load of right load of old toss from the carebear's bible. Shield tanking sentries is NOT an exploit. Regardless of the method. Jamming sentries is NOT an exploit. Its a moot point anyhow as they have been made unjammable. Fighting or running away from concorde is NOT an exploit. EXCEPT in 1.0 where all 3 are regarded as exploits so that newbies at least have somewhere to hide. There are NO other indications that anything further than these statements is the case. The "ruling" after the Zombie-Yulia incident which has now been frozen in carebear-nite and held up as new gospel so these aforementioned plebs can spout off about what in PvP is and isn't an exploit with some deluded sense of authority. Will you all just **** off to the Sims or something. Of course if anyone would like to provide evidence to the contrary l'll gladly go back in my box.
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.04.24 22:59:00 - [51] It's a 0.4 system, it's not secure, stop whining about it. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.24 23:13:00 - [52] This has been characterized as exploit before in empire space. I don't see why it's suddenly not an exploit. ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
Kendo Nagis	Posted - 2004.04.24 23:31:00 - [53] Originally by: Shira Tandaria This has been characterized as exploit before in empire space. I don't see why it's suddenly not an exploit. Please show me where this sort of action has been labled an Exploit.. Please. Ok I agree that after a few hours I'd expect the local military or concord to show up. In Yulai they did just that and I remember seening getting killed along side the other players. Get a life ppl, this isn't a 1.0 system, it's a 0.4. If you're dumb arse enough to auto pilot afk in your nice new BS, Hell you deserve to lose it! __________________________ "Death before dishonour, so long as it doesnÆt cost too much."
Xelios	Posted - 2004.04.24 23:31:00 - [54] Quote: This has been characterized as exploit before in empire space. I don't see why it's suddenly not an exploit. Because before it was done in a 1.0 system. Now it's being done in a 0.4 Honestly, instead of whining about it, why not just... avoid that system?
Shira Tandaria	Posted - 2004.04.24 23:42:00 - [55] Edited by: Shira Tandaria on 24/04/2004 23:47:20 Originally by: Xelios Quote: This has been characterized as exploit before in empire space. I don't see why it's suddenly not an exploit. Because before it was done in a 1.0 system. Now it's being done in a 0.4 Honestly, instead of whining about it, why not just... avoid that system? Did I just say empire space? Oh yes, I believe I did. Instead of exploiting the game, why not play a bit with more maturity? Honestly now... Kendo, they were banned. What more proof can you possibly need? ♥ If beauty is a crime, then I'm guilty as charged. ♥
Siddy	Posted - 2004.04.24 23:59:00 - [56] My god - i campped Gate in Passari at 150km and killed countles of ships and nobody whined in Forums but as soon Zombie does it .. oh the whinage Grow up - its 0.4 - before enttering it - chek out cearfuly death stats and players in space etc - if u want to be realy cearful u wont die but if u are *just another layzy Fuk** - the u get what u deserve -------------------------------------------
Fuze Rogue	Posted - 2004.04.25 00:15:00 - [57] Quote: lol, don't undock in something that's uninsured in a camped system, and ehm if you're buying ships and are rather new and all, buy em in a high security system, 0.4 is NOT SAFE, NOT NOT NOT NOT F SAFE. Gariuys ure such an idiot, of course a 0.4 system isnt safe WHEN URE NOT NEXT TO A STARGATE OR A STATION, taking a uninsured ship out is risky but i expect that if u get attacked in this situation the pkers lose their ship aswell, its a f**king rule thats it. therefore its an exploit.
Cao Cao	Posted - 2004.04.25 00:42:00 - [58] God. There are more CAREBEARS than I ever imagined in this game right now .
GeoNoSiS	Posted - 2004.04.25 01:01:00 - [59] 2 words... quit whining! ----------------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world
Azziza Meekstone	Posted - 2004.04.25 01:03:00 - [60] I recently killed people besides a gate in 0.4, a GM was present (after a few corpses petitioned) and it was legit, the guns did hit me. Just warp out when they eat the armor, but a cruiser passing by is dead by then. Theyre coming to take me away ! ho ho hi hi ha ha!!

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