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Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2008.04.27 18:39:00 - [61] Edited by: Diek Ran on 27/04/2008 18:39:22 Originally by: Misanth Got several questions/issues with this before it even comes. * What is the point of FW? Apart from chosing side with something, I don't understand what the rewards would be. Similar to mission running for a corporation? You earn LP and drop standing with the hostiles? ... Are missions as we know them today supposed to be completely replaced by FW: "Sign up and run our missions - or don't" __________________________________ Originally by: Verlyn I know it's my own fault, BUT THATS NOT THE POINT!
suzie stormbringer	Posted - 2008.04.27 19:00:00 - [62] I hope the 4 races have equal numbers. Would be a bit unfair if say caldari outnumbet gallente 5 to 1.
quickshot89 Caldari	Posted - 2008.04.27 21:42:00 - [63] i just hope we get the choice to stay out of a war if we dont want to enter it. for example, if you want into the war, you have to join a specific corp, such as the caldari navy that would be best IMO, ive only just started lvl 4 missions and i dont want to loose my ship any time soon
Tankn00blicus Cosmic Vacum Cleaners	Posted - 2008.04.28 01:52:00 - [64] Edited by: Tankn00blicus on 28/04/2008 01:55:44 With this system the whole of empire will be owned by caldari. Too many damn caldari mission runners, in ravens.
Cybele Lanier Amarr The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.28 21:07:00 - [65] Originally by: Seth Ruin The article itself says FW is being implemented to ease players from the "carebear" lifestyle of Empire into PvP more like 0.0. To that end, I'd say FW is great. It won't take anything away from the game, and those who want to PvP as they always have in its current form will still be free to do so. However, this will give "carebear" players a more gentle approach to PvP, which in turn will help the 0.0 alliances grab recruits. Agreed. I think the Tournament popularity and Red v Blue shows there is a market for easily accessible PVP that isn't really being met. --------------- ""Minimum collateral damage" and "Entire star system" do not belong in the same sentence."
Sionide Minmatar THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.04.28 21:32:00 - [66] Originally by: Cybele Lanier Agreed. I think the Tournament popularity and Red v Blue shows there is a market for easily accessible PVP that isn't really being met. I guess that is my problem with it, there are already alternatives if someone wants to just war on a "red vs blue" type senario. Though, if done right (using the different race factions) it could work. Namely, how the video game "Pirates" did it. You worked for a country (i.e. faction) and warring gave you rank, prestige and wealth. Hence, if people fight kill people from the other faction they should receive loyalty points for the faction they are working for to use it to get cool stuff. Of course, they would then also have to work on the loyalty store and make it have a lot cooler rewards, as well as give people ranks within the faction...perhaps giving discounts on the faction market or loyalty points needed to purchase a faction item. If they did that, its not a bad idea. === In Eve, never bring a knife to a knife fight.

CCP Ginger	Posted - 2008.04.29 08:44:00 - [67] You'll have to forgive me guys, im still ill (went to a hot country and got man flu, go figure!) but what i think your asking is if Factional Warfare will be held in systems apart from the general population of EVE as a kind of battleground? This is not true.

Juwi Kotch Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.04.29 09:12:00 - [68] Edited by: Juwi Kotch on 29/04/2008 09:12:35 I have only one concern regarding factional warfare: How will it affect corporations, seeing that the vast majority of all corporations are mixed races. When a corporation's Minmatar pilot decides to join FW, is he forced to leave the corporation, when it has Amarr pilots in it? If a corporation decides to join FW on the side of Gallente, are all Caldari pilots forced to leave? Juwi Kotch
Miasia Federatin Navy Assistance	Posted - 2008.04.29 10:03:00 - [69] HI CCP Ginger, Get well soon! Could we get a DevBlog or something else about this upcoming expansion? Best Regards Miasia
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.04.29 10:29:00 - [70] Originally by: CCP Ginger You'll have to forgive me guys, im still ill (went to a hot country and got man flu, go figure!) but what i think your asking is if Factional Warfare will be held in systems apart from the general population of EVE as a kind of battleground? This is not true. This is good to hear, Ginger. Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk i'm not a very good gambler
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Odyssey.	Posted - 2008.04.29 10:46:00 - [71] Originally by: Tankn00blicus Edited by: Tankn00blicus on 28/04/2008 01:55:44 With this system the whole of empire will be owned by caldari. Too many damn caldari mission runners, in ravens. and you really think those missiosn runners are a match to pvpers? ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.29 11:04:00 - [72] Edited by: Andrue on 29/04/2008 11:05:30 Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Tankn00blicus Edited by: Tankn00blicus on 28/04/2008 01:55:44 With this system the whole of empire will be owned by caldari. Too many damn caldari mission runners, in ravens. and you really think those missiosn runners are a match to pvpers? Some of them, yes. The ones that can keep their head and know how to fit out their own ship could give the PvP crowd a run for their money. However it's true that a lot of mission runners will panic during their first few PvP fights and a fair number of them only know how to read the sticky in the Ships and Modules forum. But don't overlook the fact that a lot of mission runners are wealthy. Anyone running L4s is pulling down over 15mil an hour..and most runners actually enjoy doing that for hours on end. If those players can make the leap to seeing ships as expendable (which I think is at the heart of the 'Carebear Syndrome' in a lot of cases) they could become a serious force. The beauty of FW (I hope) is the ability to dip in and fight when you want then back out and rebuild resources. At present most forms of combat have longer lasting consequences (sec standing falls, kill rights, logistics). If FW is 'just' a mission system where you can go and fight players instead of NPCs for an hour or two then go back to mission whoring it could be the very answer. I'd like to know if podding will still be allowed or not. Tbh (and I'm sure some will flame me for this) I hope it isn't. That would remove what I think is the last major barrier for a lot of carebears. I know that the hardcore fighters will be dissappointed not to be able to seriously hurt another player by podding them back to the stone age but a lot of the Empire dwellers don't want to do that and don't want to risk it. A lot of us just want a chance to play 'Counterstrike in space' now and again without committing ourselves to a long-term change in gameplay. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.04.29 11:07:00 - [73] Originally by: Andrue I'd like to know if podding will still be allowed or not. Tbh (and I'm sure some will flame me for this) I hope it isn't. That would remove what I think is the last major barrier for a lot of carebears. You'd be involving yourself in a war between the factions. Why should your pod be safe? Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk i'm not a very good gambler
Christopher Scott Caldari	Posted - 2008.04.29 11:28:00 - [74] I think it is a given that if you are enlisted by a certain faction you gain complete jump-clone access in all of their stations. Otherwise, it would be really stupid. ------------------------------------ I support the following changes: Make warp acceleration faster!
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.04.29 11:31:00 - [75] Originally by: Christopher Scott I think it is a given that if you are enlisted by a certain faction you gain complete jump-clone access in all of their stations. The flip-side of that though is that you should be banned from docking at stations belonging to the enemy faction. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Batolemaeus Caldari Batolemaeus Corp	Posted - 2008.04.29 11:42:00 - [76] Originally by: Mudrat it's giong to be caldari achura vs. everyone else We will win, as they lack gang bonuses and leadership skills
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.29 12:27:00 - [77] Edited by: Andrue on 29/04/2008 12:32:29 Edited by: Andrue on 29/04/2008 12:29:18 Originally by: Sakura Nihil Originally by: Andrue I'd like to know if podding will still be allowed or not. Tbh (and I'm sure some will flame me for this) I hope it isn't. That would remove what I think is the last major barrier for a lot of carebears. You'd be involving yourself in a war between the factions. Why should your pod be safe? Because this is a computer game and I want to have fun with no risks. If I want risks and excitement I'll tell my boss' boss what I really think of their long term strategy and will introduce my girlfriends to each other. If your world is so small that you think what you do in Eve is important then fine. A lot of us though just want a laugh and some harmless entertainment and being podded is just really annoying. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.29 12:29:00 - [78] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Christopher Scott I think it is a given that if you are enlisted by a certain faction you gain complete jump-clone access in all of their stations. The flip-side of that though is that you should be banned from docking at stations belonging to the enemy faction. Yup, absolutely. That's good enough for me. I'm not sure it'll be good enough for the true carebears but it just might. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
suzie stormbringer	Posted - 2008.04.29 12:30:00 - [79] I once went on low sec mining trip in covetor with uber pvp as protection. First spawn came along and he launches 3 tech1 medium drones in the days when you could have ten from a typhoon. How he mnaged to get all those kills in pvp is a mystery to me.

CCP Greyscale	Posted - 2008.04.29 14:37:00 - [80] I was thinking about making a Phantom Tollbooth reference here, but I'm guessing nobody else would have the first idea what I was talking about... Regardless, the information you're working on, while fundamentally correct, has gone through a number of filters which make teasing from it the precise mechanical details an inexact science at best. Most importantly, the intent of this sort of interview is generally to impart information to non-players, and thus everything has to be translated into Layman by both interviewer and interviewee. Trying to translate it back into Player is the equivalent of the old English->German->English trick, in that while in the theory the fundamental meaning is conserved, in practice you terminate Kauderwelsch frequently above with a bundle. Inevitably some people are going to be disappointed with anything we do; hopefully more details will be available in the very near future in native Player so you guys can get your teeth into it. In the meantime though, let me just say that "WE ARE NOT MAKING EVE BATTLEGROUNDS" was a founding principle of the design. The fact that people are managing to derive "omg fw is eve battlegrounds" from this interview is indicative of nothing but the fact that generalist interviews are not a great source of detailed information, and that our players have active imaginations, both of which constitute known knowns, to quote His Rumsfeldness

Kerosene Caldari Fun Inc Black-Out	Posted - 2008.04.29 15:23:00 - [81] There's a lot of things I'd like to see in factional warfare and I'm kinda waiting to see what would happen but in agreement with a lot of posts I'd like to see some kind of dynamic warfare utilising low-sec. For example make the Rancer constellation worth something to fight over. Say if a faction controls more than half of the structures in the constellation then all members of that faction get a 5% speed boost. Pick low sec constellations all over eve and give them actual bonuses for the controlling faction (5% damage, armor repair, shield repair, mining amount, mission payout, LP's). This would add so much life into the thus far neglected low sec realm. __ Eve. Eve eve eve eve. EVE. Eve. Eve eve eve eve eve eve EVE eve eve. - Kerosene The way to stop isk farmers is to STOP BUYING ISK.
Manfred Rickenbocker The Elliance Delta.Green	Posted - 2008.04.29 15:41:00 - [82] ... You should have made the Phantom Tollbooth reference. Coolness ++ Anyway, on-topic. My fear (hope?) for carebears doing factional warfare is that a ton of neutral pirates will be in the mix. I'd like to see the space be NPC 0.0 (to avoid sec-hits for pvp) however unless its high-sec I cant see anyone but the most brave or foolish participating. Like when the Lv 5 agents were deployed, no one did them because the risk/reward wasn't done right and the systems were populated by pirates waiting to prey on unsuspecting (or not) mission runners. So, the question gets proposed: what kind of neutral yarr opportunities have been taken into account? ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times.
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.04.29 15:45:00 - [83] Edited by: Kruel on 29/04/2008 15:45:12 Since a couple devs are here I have 1 simple (but important to me) question regarding FW: Can we sign up and kill & pod rival faction members wherever we see them in space? Or is this mission based? As an ex-privateer... lets just say I'd like to relive the glory days. :D ----------------------------------- You're not a pirate unless your -10
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2008.04.29 15:47:00 - [84] Originally by: Andrue Because this is a computer game and I want to have fun with no risks. If I want risks and excitement I'll tell my boss' boss what I really think of their long term strategy and will introduce my girlfriends to each other. Then you should stop playing Eve now, because Eve is about risk.
Tactus Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.04.29 15:58:00 - [85] Originally by: CCP Greyscale I was thinking about making a Phantom Tollbooth reference here, but I'm guessing nobody else would have the first idea what I was talking about... i'll make it for you. ________________________________________________ Originally by: Raivi ...but if spending all your imaginary money on an imaginary spaceship with a camo paintjob is wrong then I don't want to be right.
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.04.29 15:59:00 - [86] Just a quick question although I'm not sure you can/are allowed to answer it but with the faction warfare starting up are we going to see actual border systems (chains of low/null sec) between the empires or will empire space remain one big blob of high sec in the middle of the map?
TimGascoigne	Posted - 2008.04.29 16:02:00 - [87] I think this is all spelt wrong what you mean to say is "Empyrean age" as inEmpyrean not "Empyrian Age" as the title says. Otherwise nice post but I don't understand why people want factional warfare? like who cares because I'm quite happy with the way empire works. That is being less profitable than 0.0
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.29 16:09:00 - [88] Edited by: Andrue on 29/04/2008 16:10:36 Originally by: Kyra Felann Originally by: Andrue Because this is a computer game and I want to have fun with no risks. If I want risks and excitement I'll tell my boss' boss what I really think of their long term strategy and will introduce my girlfriends to each other. Then you should stop playing Eve now, because Eve is about risk. Don't be silly. What risk can there be in playing a computer game? Eve is about two things only: Providing fun for players. Providing money for CCP. Most people do not enjoy being podded. That's why so few games have such harsh penalities. Historically CCP have done a good job of balancing their desire for a hardcore gaming experience against their desire to have large numbers of subscribers. Unfortunately I suspect that as the demands on the server require greater and greater investment it becomes harder to exclude the mainstream with a harsh experience. I have high hopes for FW but I suspect that unless they can get it to appeal to the wider 'pacifist' playerbase it is going to flop like L5 missions seem to have. I've been playing Eve for over four years now so I think I have a pretty good idea what it's about and a pretty good idea of what CCP are capable of. Given the amount of time and preparation FW has had I think it'll turn out quite well but not everything they do does. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Ulstan	Posted - 2008.04.29 16:28:00 - [89] I don't really have a problem with opt in red vs blue. Obviously standings are going to be important and obviously running missions for your navy against your enemies are going to be involved. As long as you can capture territory an annex it to your chosen sides empire, I'm happy with it. Obviously a few core systems should be uncapturable, but the huge swathes of space in between the various capitals should be. Heck, maybe low sec could be capturable as well, you could pit the various empires against each other and player and npc pirates to see if they could conver ta system from low sec to hi sec or back the other way.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.04.29 16:55:00 - [90] Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 29/04/2008 16:59:14 Originally by: Kyra Felann Originally by: Andrue Because this is a computer game and I want to have fun with no risks. If I want risks and excitement I'll tell my boss' boss what I really think of their long term strategy and will introduce my girlfriends to each other. Then you should stop playing Eve now, because Eve is about risk. Pretty well put to be honest. Originally by: Andrue Most people do not enjoy being podded. That's why so few games have such harsh penalities. Historically CCP have done a good job of balancing their desire for a hardcore gaming experience against their desire to have large numbers of subscribers. Unfortunately I suspect that as the demands on the server require greater and greater investment it becomes harder to exclude the mainstream with a harsh experience. I don't enjoy being podded either, but when you undock, you have to have the mentality that your ship, pod, and immortal soul are already dead. While CCP could remove podding and what have you, making EVE easier for some, it wouldn't make EVE "EVE" anymore. Greyscale, could you do us a favor and clarify what the "kill missions" are, exactly? Or, at least how you all are envisioning it atm? Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk i'm not a very good gambler

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