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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:15:00 -
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When we were young we all knew that in the future, "robots" and "computers" would do all our work for us while we pranced around in spandex overalls. Well, the future is here and apart from the spandex overalls and the prancing we were mostly right. But as it turns out...we are still required to do some things on our own. Like mining. And running missions.
CCP Sreegs just wrote a blog about what happens to those who don't do those things on their own.
Check out the blog right here and if you have any questions, Sreegs and gang will be here to address them. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Karl Planck
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:19:00 -
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FIRST \o/ If you don't like it, you should go and ride your Emo high-horse all the way back to WoW.
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
1451
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:27:00 -
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best. devblog pic. ever. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer | @katrinat |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:30:00 -
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ALMOST!
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Cass Lie
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:30:00 -
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Typo: "don't to bad things"
And good job Sreegs/CCP. |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
538
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:30:00 -
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******* Sreegs |
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Sirius Cassiopeiae
Perkone Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:30:00 -
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4th :)
edit:
7th... :p |
Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:33:00 -
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My ***** is throbbing. EVE is dead |
Bubanni
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:33:00 -
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Make it zero botting tolerance FFS! first strike, permaban! |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:34:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:best. devblog pic. ever.
A great picture for a great devblog! CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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plan q
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:35:00 -
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so im taking it soundwave is going to be trolled at fanfest :D dont worry just spread the news that it is CCP Sreegs birthday :D |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:35:00 -
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Nice to see.
Keep up the good work
I like the character lock to accounts, too. That should provoke some tears. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Squizz Caphinator
Woopatang Happy Endings
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:35:00 -
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Awesome, friggin awesome. http://evewho.com - Alliance and Corporation Member Listings http://evechatter.com - Free Alliance and Corporation forums for all. |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:36:00 -
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Yes! YES!
I can already taste the tears when "I'll just trade characters on the- wait- why can't I transfer?" occurs. Botter tears, best tears. <3 |
MissBolyai
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:36:00 -
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Congratulations on your first useful action in your career with CCP (in game and out) |
Karl Planck
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:36:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:Make it zero botting tolerance FFS! first strike, permaban!
CCP Sreegs wrote:What I mean is that a fraction of people actually get a second warning and the amount of people in all time who have ever hit a third was something ridiculous like 3%.
Meaning 1st time perma banning is hurting the people who learned their lesson and still want to play =P If you don't like it, you should go and ride your Emo high-horse all the way back to WoW.
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Frogzuk
Genesis Nation Gentlemen's Agreement
9
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:37:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:Make it zero botting tolerance FFS! first strike, permaban!
I agree with this .. botting and rmt kills eve ... and i wager that a lot of players have left because of these things .. keep up the good work ccp |
Grarr Dexx
No.Mercy Merciless.
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:37:00 -
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You say that the recidivism rate for the third strike is as low as 3%, but what percentage of the accounts related to one or two strikes actually remain subbed? These people are spoiled beyond the rules of Eve and the warning system probably forces them to quit altogether. |
Shandir
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:39:00 -
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It's getting quite disturbing how no dev seems to respond to your posts on this point. They're *really* obvious... why are they not banned?
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Daedra Blue
Atomic Biohazard
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:39:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:Make it zero botting tolerance FFS! first strike, permaban! That is a LOSE-LOSE scenario.
Because although illegal we still use the stuff they bot, and ccp still gets accounts payment. Turning them into legal players is a WIN-WIN. |
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Sirius Cassiopeiae
Perkone Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:41:00 -
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Quote:BUT WAIT, THERE IS EVEN MORE! From now on, and this current wave is included, characters who receive a warning such as this will have the characters locked to the account. This means that once you've received a warning for botting your character transfer privileges have been revoked in perpetuity. This is to prevent people trying to circumvent the rules by recycling accounts. Yes we know people pointed out this could happen last time around and if you'll remember we said "We'll keep an eye on it and if it becomes a problem we'll deal with it". Here is us dealing with it. We'll probably have to come up with some form of timing solution for the future, but as it stands today it's forever. If you care about your dudes don't to bad things.
THNX A LOT
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PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE THAT PERMANENT!!!!!
If you put it on timer botters will make a little more accs and when time pass out sell the old one that was locked and buy new one for reserve. And you will have that bad circle of recycling chars started again, only circles will be a little bigger (more chars in the same circle). You see that we were right last time and you didn't listen, listen us this time and keep locked chars permanently locked to that account. |
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Pax Romana Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:41:00 -
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Yeah, so now I want to hear Soundwave speaking in Japanese. Next video devblog please
Also keep up the good work on the bot front folks "Fools! I'll show them all!"
What do you mean that one's already taken? |
Mikelii
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:41:00 -
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Darius Johnson for CEO. |
Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
261
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:44:00 -
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SREEGS |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
510
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:45:00 -
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The character transfer lock will have some interesting effects. Up to now the botters have tended to drive up the PLEX, first by having a pile of accounts that consume them, then via RMT. But they also consumed PLEX via character transfers. Now, all those ways of driving up the PLEX are gone. Will we see a PLEX price drop, or even crash? That depends on just how much of the PLEX market was bot driven, and how elastic it is. Interesting times ahead!
I was unaware of the pause in bot killing. That explains alot. Nice to see the system back in business. Keep up the good work Sreegs & Co!
P.S. can we get a higher resolution version of that picture? What is all that? I am running for the CSM. Take a look at my ideas. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Chanina
ASGARD HEAVY INDUSTRIES The Citadel of Asgard
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:45:00 -
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Nice blog, epic pic
Making them sticky to an account is really good.
Still would be nice to some how SEE if someone was banned. Recruiters could use that info to interrogate oh I mean interview the applicant. |
Shandir
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:46:00 -
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Actually read the devblog now - good news to read. Sreegs - could you share figures on how many of those 'large percentage' of botters who do not get a second warning, also do not continue their subscription? That is to say, are these people who are not getting a second warning really turning into good players, or are they simply making new accounts? |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:48:00 -
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MisterNick wrote:Yeah, so now I want to hear Soundwave speaking in Japanese. Next video devblog please Yes, ask him to say "Anata no banana punyu-punyu dane" on camera |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
282
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:49:00 -
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Grarr Dexx wrote:You say that the recidivism rate for the third strike is as low as 3%, but what percentage of the accounts related to one or two strikes actually remain subbed? These people are spoiled beyond the rules of Eve and the warning system probably forces them to quit altogether.
We have that number as well and it's actually also very low. I'll have it all put together and prettied up for Fanfest but if you can find my presentation from EVE Vegas somewhere I'm pretty sure there's a slide in there that shows all these percentages. At least at the time.
It takes a few months to gather really good data on this so we're going off of old rates, but as someone else mentioned, the general idea is to change behavior and turn people into good law abiding citizens. |
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Bubanni
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
118
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:49:00 -
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OH ccp, what are you doing to make sure they don't just RMT away the accounts? (sell the account for real money) when they get locked... |
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