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Ariko Gunaris Gallente Office of Ganking and Commerce	Posted - 2008.04.28 06:42:00 - [31] Edited by: Ariko Gunaris on 28/04/2008 06:43:21 Originally by: Attak Either MC must have some super secret plan that doesn't involve defending their space (which I doubt, because BoB would know about it), or they're doing a typical leadership vacuum firesale morale crushing failure cascade. Which would be pretty disappointing for an alliance that was known as the elite PVP force of the GBC. MC were never an elite PvP force, just rich. The fake contracts (lol Big Blue) against soft opponents gave the illusion of competence.
Mr McDee Ancient Crew	Posted - 2008.04.28 06:52:00 - [32] Originally by: Ariko Gunaris MC were never an elite PvP force, just rich. The fake contracts (lol Big Blue) against soft opponents gave the illusion of competence. MC were competent enough to lead the steamroll in the North in fact. But lots of water since those times gone.
Ariko Gunaris Gallente Office of Ganking and Commerce	Posted - 2008.04.28 06:55:00 - [33] Originally by: Mr McDee Originally by: Ariko Gunaris MC were never an elite PvP force, just rich. The fake contracts (lol Big Blue) against soft opponents gave the illusion of competence. MC were competent enough to lead the steamroll in the North in fact. But lots of water since those times gone. It takes no skill to steamroll the north, a fact of EvE history. Look at Tri.
Mr McDee Ancient Crew	Posted - 2008.04.28 07:00:00 - [34] Originally by: Ariko Gunaris It takes no skill to steamroll the north, a fact of EvE history. Look at Tri. So... how many alliances managed to do the same, eh? Clueless alt is clueless. Are you seriously claiming Tri got no skills?
Haargoth Agamar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.28 07:22:00 - [35] Originally by: Mr McDee Originally by: Ariko Gunaris It takes no skill to steamroll the north, a fact of EvE history. Look at Tri. So... how many alliances managed to do the same, eh? Clueless alt is clueless. Are you seriously claiming Tri got no skills? Papertiger.
ImUrDestiny R.U.S.T. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.28 07:30:00 - [36] Originally by: Haargoth Agamar Originally by: Mr McDee Originally by: Ariko Gunaris It takes no skill to steamroll the north, a fact of EvE history. Look at Tri. So... how many alliances managed to do the same, eh? Clueless alt is clueless. Are you seriously claiming Tri got no skills? Papertiger. Or wounded tiger? _____________________ Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.04.28 07:31:00 - [37] Originally by: ImUrDestiny Originally by: Haargoth Agamar Originally by: Mr McDee Originally by: Ariko Gunaris It takes no skill to steamroll the north, a fact of EvE history. Look at Tri. So... how many alliances managed to do the same, eh? Clueless alt is clueless. Are you seriously claiming Tri got no skills? Papertiger. Or wounded tiger? Additional vague analogy.
Eternal Hatred Amarr Pantsu Garu Limited Technologies	Posted - 2008.04.28 07:56:00 - [38] I heard that "STAIN ALLAINCE" holds Stain, c/d ? _________________ It's great being an Amarr, isn't it??? :(
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.04.28 08:02:00 - [39] Originally by: Eternal Hatred I heard that "STAIN ALLAINCE" holds Stain, c/d ? If you heard it on CAOD it's got to be true.
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.04.28 08:24:00 - [40] Originally by: Ariko Gunaris MC were never an elite PvP force, just rich. The fake contracts (lol Big Blue) against soft opponents gave the illusion of competence. Don't you just love it when at first everything MC did was followed with admiration and much praise. But when they lost their use to Bob they just admit they never like them at all. Seems to me they made the right choice after all. Funny thing its not the first time as well and if you align with Bob it makes sense to be wary because you'll never know when they are ready to throw you out like a used rubber. /furthermore
Mark Starkiller D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.28 08:38:00 - [41] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Don't you just love it when at first everything MC did was followed with admiration and much praise. But when they lost their use to Bob they just admit they never like them at all. Seems to me they made the right choice after all. Funny thing its not the first time as well and if you align with Bob it makes sense to be wary because you'll never know when they are ready to throw you out like a used rubber. /furthermore Was this on sisi or i missed something?
Shootemup1 Covert Corp	Posted - 2008.04.28 08:40:00 - [42] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: Ariko Gunaris MC were never an elite PvP force, just rich. The fake contracts (lol Big Blue) against soft opponents gave the illusion of competence. Don't you just love it when at first everything MC did was followed with admiration and much praise. But when they lost their use to Bob they just admit they never like them at all. Seems to me they made the right choice after all. Funny thing its not the first time as well and if you align with Bob it makes sense to be wary because you'll never know when they are ready to throw you out like a used rubber. /furthermore this
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.04.28 08:58:00 - [43] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: Ariko Gunaris MC were never an elite PvP force, just rich. The fake contracts (lol Big Blue) against soft opponents gave the illusion of competence. Don't you just love it when at first everything MC did was followed with admiration and much praise. But when they lost their use to Bob they just admit they never like them at all. Seems to me they made the right choice after all. Funny thing its not the first time as well and if you align with Bob it makes sense to be wary because you'll never know when they are ready to throw you out like a used rubber. /furthermore Is this MC's current spin? When you say "they never like them" who is the 'them' you refer too? ppl like Waagaa? Sivona? (to name just a couple) pretty sure ppl in bob still like them and are full of admiration for them.. Who exactly in MC we should admire? the ppl that are making obviously ill considered decisions? MC cant even sort out it's own leadership for more than a few weeks at a time, atm.. No one blames the membership for MC's change, they not lack decent leadership both poliitically and on the field.. The mistake you make, as alot of the recent MC members have, is they think the name of MC is enough to win "fights".. MC had a large influence politically for their size, but without their best FC's the influence ingame has dwindled to the point that members like you, have to hide behind alts on the forums.. ------------------
Mr McDee Ancient Crew	Posted - 2008.04.28 09:02:00 - [44] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: Ariko Gunaris MC were never an elite PvP force, just rich. The fake contracts (lol Big Blue) against soft opponents gave the illusion of competence. Don't you just love it when at first everything MC did was followed with admiration and much praise. But when they lost their use to Bob they just admit they never like them at all. Seems to me they made the right choice after all. Funny thing its not the first time as well and if you align with Bob it makes sense to be wary because you'll never know when they are ready to throw you out like a used rubber. /furthermore Hail thee Mynas! How you doing nowadays bud?
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.04.28 09:13:00 - [45] Originally by: thoth foc Is this MC's current spin? Nah, just warning BRUCE,INSRG and Tri what's to come. Just look at the latest threads where Bob cheers for them. But we all know that admiration is faked. They just need them to tie down the northern naptrain so they can take a more regions down south.
superclip Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.04.28 09:24:00 - [46] Originally by: Martin VanBuren killed the first titan in combat big difference between beating someones arse and pointing them out while other people come in and do the heavy lifting. not saying being a part of something big isn't.. big. i've just painted and repainted metal enough to know and appreciate semantics. about bob, though. they're pretty cool allies, especially if you're into being a cell-mate with a big buff guy that stares at you while you're going to sleep with a big smile.
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.04.28 09:30:00 - [47] MC is done. I hope they will loose a lot of CAPS to their former allies.
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.04.28 09:43:00 - [48] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: thoth foc Is this MC's current spin? Nah, just warning BRUCE,INSRG and Tri what's to come. Just look at the latest threads where Bob cheers for them. But we all know that admiration is faked. They just need them to tie down the northern naptrain so they can take a more regions down south. LOL.. somehow i think both Tri and Insurg have had longer experiences with BOB than you.. also i rather doubt many decent alliances planned their strategies based on CAOD posts.. BOB's admiration for the MC name and their past friendship extended to allowing them to make the first move in the war.. if you really expected BOB to let MC win the war because they were once friends, it's just another example why MC need this change.. ------------------
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.04.28 10:11:00 - [49] Originally by: thoth foc LOL.. somehow i think both Tri and Insurg have had longer experiences with BOB than you.. also i rather doubt many decent alliances planned their strategies based on CAOD posts.. Some prefer BBQ meetings over COAD. Besides Tri and INSRG has a lot of ex-Bob so they pretty much know what's going on right now. There is a reason why they left.
Ferocitana Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.28 10:17:00 - [50] Its all history and history is repeating itself, so that makes history booring.
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.04.28 10:47:00 - [51] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: thoth foc LOL.. somehow i think both Tri and Insurg have had longer experiences with BOB than you.. also i rather doubt many decent alliances planned their strategies based on CAOD posts.. Some prefer BBQ meetings over COAD. Imagine that, some alliances prefer to talk amongst themselves, than use CAOD.. i can see bob's weakness now.. Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Besides Tri and INSRG has a lot of ex-Bob so they pretty much know what's going on right now. There is a reason why they left. Probably.. so why exactly did they need your "warning" again then? ------------------
Danari Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.28 10:49:00 - [52] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Besides Tri and INSRG has a lot of ex-Bob ex-bob maybe. ex-dice lawl.
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.28 10:50:00 - [53] Originally by: Danari Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Besides Tri and INSRG has a lot of ex-Bob ex-bob maybe. ex-dice lawl. ex-ascn. lawl.
EL TITAN Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.28 11:07:00 - [54] Originally by: Danari Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Besides Tri and INSRG has a lot of ex-Bob ex-bob maybe. ex-dice lawl. lol Tri, another noobie alliance. --------------------------------------------
ImUrDestiny R.U.S.T. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.28 11:17:00 - [55] Originally by: Danari Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Besides Tri and INSRG has a lot of ex-Bob ex-bob maybe. ex-dice lawl. [SYNCO] Danari was cool, this one is bitter too much. _____________________ Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Danari Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.28 11:43:00 - [56] Edited by: Danari on 28/04/2008 11:44:01 Originally by: Tholarim ex-ascn. lawl. It was your gangs repeatedly running from even fights in south feyth m8. I don't scorn a lot of pvpers, but you brought bob down by about 4 full notches when you joined. You were in charge then, you're in charge now, so not much can have changed n'est ce-pa?
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.04.28 11:45:00 - [57] Originally by: thoth foc Imagine that, some alliances prefer to talk amongst themselves, than use CAOD.. i can see bob's weakness now.. coughshafting RL friendscough Quote: Probably.. so why exactly did they need your "warning" again then? Easy one, Korsakoffs' And enough offtopic jibberish. Seems that the Tortuganauts had a lot of BS up for some major insurance fraud. COAD is requesting for more Bob e-peen.
Eleese Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.28 11:48:00 - [58] Edited by: Eleese on 28/04/2008 11:53:34 EDIT: hmm just realised i am not mean't to post here
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2008.04.28 11:54:00 - [59] I am watching this development with interest. EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki
Diehard Si UK1 Zero G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.04.28 12:04:00 - [60] Originally by: UnIQu3 Originally by: Ariko Gunaris IS this the end of MC/Tortuga? I give it 2 weeks, max. It seems MC are losing space/battles faster than ASCN. Bob still holds the record in loosing space overtime... I'd happily bet some isk that Goons will lose theirs a lot faster once they are under the hammer!

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