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Cruthensis
Gallente Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.04.29 12:36:00 -
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One answer is to concentrate on being good at something rather than lots of things.
Within about 3 months of starting you can (for example) become as good a cov-ops pilot as it is possible to be - pretty well maxed on the relevant skills. You are then a really useful player oon any team that needs a prober and that's just about any lo-sec roaming gang and gangs wanting to ruin a mission grinder's day in hi-sec.
Now that's just one example, but from there the other frigate classes are just a short hop. Cruisers are not much further...
tldr: At least to start with, specialise. Be really really good at something (not carrier pilot, obviously!).
1. Buy Vexor 2. Fit for Gank 3. Suicide ISK farmer 4. Grind sec 5. see 1. |

Havohej
Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.04.29 12:37:00 -
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Been fun for me since day one, and I STILL don't have a year in.
Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
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ry ry
StateCorp Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.29 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ordon Gundar
Originally by: Grayson Sutherland I'm considering leaving the game. The game gives too much power to those who have ben around for a long time. Even the $15 doesn't seem worth the wait for a better fighting capability. Any reason why I should stay?
Try playing WoW. I dont mean that in a flamey way. I mean try an MMO where the whole emphasis is on grinding up to level 70 as soon as possible, as the whole game focus is on end-game which then requires you to spend 50 hours a week in a raiding guild.
Give it some more time, and just chill and find your niche.
whenever people start a post with "this isn't aimed at you but.." or "don't take this personally but..." what usually follow is a personal attack of some description.
that said, don't take this personally but i don't think you've got the right idea about WoW. it's no more a headlong dive towards capping your character than Eve is a meta-gamey feast of training plan-efficiency and belt-chaining to get yourself into a capship.
some people will powergame like a mofo (god knows, i hit 60 within 2 weeks of release and took a week off work to farm the original PvP epics) but some people take a healthier attitude and instead revel in actually playing the game.
when i hit the higher levels i found myself going back and soloing the lower level instances for ****s and giggles, exploring the game-world a little bit, and generally soaking it all up like a warlock shaped sponge.
i really enjoyed WoW, and whilst i probably won't ever play it again, the prevailing attitude that it's a grind-fest whilst eve is some kind of mythical holy grail of unique MMOy goodness is just that: a myth.
to say the emphasis is on power-leveling isn't strictly true. player's epeens dictate that. the game can actually be a helluva lot more entertaining than hitting things untill you stop getting experience.
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sg3s
Caldari O.W.N. Corp United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.29 12:50:00 -
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Eve online is awesome... especially the first year... I'll give the points I did till now, I'm almost a year old now...
- Learned about eve, amazed about the options - Tutorials / learned a heap - Joined corp / learned there is much to learn - Did learning skills - Lost my first ship trying to do lvl 4 in a caracal :o - Learned how to learn skills efficiently / what is important on this area - Got into raven learned to solo missions (repetative) - Got into alliance, learned about politics (irritating) - Capitals / Capital fight (amg awesome ****) - ISK making... losing isk / ships / bses.... - Got into 0.0 / POS warfare / pvp (rifters ftw, awesome) - Learned about defeat. - How to move arround in eve with ease and assets :) - Standings / npc relations / missionrunning / LP store - Solo pvping / pirating / supercapitals.. - tech 2 ships / setting them up / faction modules - ratting in 0.0 / faction spawns / exploration - nano gangs / fights - pvp'ing in frigate size ships worth about 200m (<3) - During this all, learning most of the mechanics in game (POS'es stations, corp management, capital ships, jump bridges, cyno gens, fleet stuff, chat channels, local (lol), missions, contracts, lowsec / highsec / 0.0 pvp rules, you name it) - Getting to know the community (awesome community, I love friend and foe alike) - Reading all of the backstory & chronicles @ work, reading up on the history of eve, the legends etc...
In short, there is so much in eve that it will take you at least a year to get to know everything this game has... Don't give up on it. Eve compares to nothing out there... And is everexpanding, so if you start learning now it will probably take you a month more to learn all new stuff that comes out in that time...
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Lona Lwyd
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Posted - 2008.04.29 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Fifth Horseman
Originally by: Faife eve really isn't about fun. it's about making sure others can't have fun. your approach is wrong.
fail pirate is fail. Eve is about fun.
Successful troll is succesful
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ry ry
StateCorp Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.29 12:56:00 -
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and OP.
specialize in a ship, and you'll quickly find yourself able to compete with the older players.
age is no indication of anything, and if you could take a look at the character sheets of some 05 players it'd become glaringly obvious that they've just trained skills to 4 before moving onto the next one.
worry more about experience (not skillpoints: actual real world experience) than how many skillpoints you've got. it's entirely possibly to kill battleships with frigates - perhaps even more so now nobody seems to fit armour reps anymore! ;)
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.29 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lona Lwyd
Originally by: Fifth Horseman
Originally by: Faife eve really isn't about fun. it's about making sure others can't have fun. your approach is wrong.
fail pirate is fail. Eve is about fun.
Successful troll is succesful
Well yes, you are.
very.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Going Forit
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Posted - 2008.04.29 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Faife eve really isn't about fun. it's about making sure others can't have fun. your approach is wrong.
Lol, nice one, mate
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Chigun
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Posted - 2008.04.29 14:24:00 -
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No it won't. Not while no one is willing to discuss how the game can be improved.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.29 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Chigun No it won't. Not while no one is willing to discuss how the game can be improved.
Boo hoo, you're butt-hurt because no-one agreed with you suggestion to droawn the game in macrobots and RMT ISk. get over it and accept that you made a stupid suggestion that has been debated endlessly ever since MMOs first started and always come to the same conclusion.
And look, here you are again, denying the obvious.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.29 14:32:00 -
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Training learning skills gets old pretty fast, but you dont have to level them up straight away. _ EVE RELATED CONTENT |

Matrixcvd
Caldari Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.29 14:35:00 -
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As a suggestion, this worked for me but may not pan out for everyone
For new players with no MMO experience 1. Mission for about a month, you learn the F1,F2,F3 etc, and then start lookin for a corp 2. After, you find a corp try and get involved, ask alot of questions, don't be shy, if you join a good corp with nice people they wont call you noob or make fun of your deathmails...
With how difficult the game plays, you really need months of training both skillpoint/actual flying to get a feel for the game and become self sufficient, but unless you want to mission, or manufacture stuff or trade and play an broker with game money you will need other people for you to have fun.
As for the OPs statement about too much power, thats not a realistic statement, people have to work hard, be patient, for the things you get in eve, if that ever changes, the name of the game should as well
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Ghengis Tia
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.29 14:59:00 -
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I lost two battlecruisers due to lag day before yesterday.
I lost a battleship due to lag yesterday.
I've been in Eve less than a year, and still having fun!
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sharkyballs
Amarr Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.29 15:13:00 -
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tl;dr am i missing out on some power giveaway or something? i havn't been givin any extra power in two years now. /me goes off to put in application for 2 years worth of power.
seriously though, i think i had more fun in the beginning. skills got done fast (when you get to the point where you have to wait for a month to get something done you'll understand), everything was fresh, you could just soak up information, plus the whole ignorance is bliss thing.
you sir should stop worrying about others and enjoy the game yourself. do you also complain that your parents are smarter than you?
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Quincunx
Minmatar Subspace Anomaly
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Posted - 2008.04.29 15:56:00 -
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I'm sure this has been said before in this thread (but can't be bothered to read 4 pages), but every ship basically has a skill cap. People can only 'use' a certain amount of their SP/skills for every ship. So in that sense it doesn't really matter how much SP you have or how long you have been around: keep specializing is the key.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.29 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Chigun No it won't. Not while no one is willing to discuss how the game can be improved.
More like "how it can be utterly ruined" going by the suggestion you made in the one thread.
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Siddy
Minmatar Art of War
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Posted - 2008.04.29 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine What power ?
He is talking abaut your lvl 75 epic mount, pink stardazle unicorn.
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Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2008.04.29 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: El'Niaga
The main problem is new players wanting to form new corporations with their friends who are also new players. There are to many griefing corps that harass these people to the point many quit. Probably the best solution might be a moratorium on declaring wars on new corporations.
That's stupid. The only purpose of corporation is PvP. Only thing you cannot do in a NPC corp is deploying POS, and that's hardly newbie stuff.
If you just want to do stuff with your friends (mining, missioning, whatever...) you don't need a corp, a chat channel will do.
Don't join a corp if you are not accepting the consequences, how hard is that... -- Heat, easy to burn your mods by mistake, hard to get it to work when you need it the most. Well designed interface CCP! |

Cyriel Longinus
Caldari XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.04.29 18:31:00 -
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In my first year in EvE I was initiated in The Order which sought to influence the universe. The Order did achieve some influence and destroyed a mad scientist (an actual unique EvE NPC).
Also in that first year, I became a Council Member of several corporations that banded together to fight one nefarious corporation that had wealth and pilots with years of experience. We won.
I recall the corp going out into 0.0 to rat in cruisers and needing to work together to bring down Gurista Battleships because we were to damn wet behind the ear to deal enough damage to rat solo. Damn hilarious and good times on TS.
I remember how dang excited I was to solo rat/tank Guristas in a damn MOA.
None of the above mentioned required veterancy.
The first year in EvE is the best and better than any veteranĘs because the world is new, every thing is a struggle and the edges of the universe seem so very distant and somewhat legendary. It can be so overwhelming that common struggles will band into associations that will be your friendships and the best reasons for playing.
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