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Jet Max
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:42:00 -
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Done quite a bit of reading on BS setups and it seems Gallente BS's are crap compared to Caldari. There were loads of sugestions how to setup Mega to take on Raven or Scorpion but as one guy [sorry cant remember his name] said he did try ALL setups mentioned and it never worked! Do people have good setups but they dont wana share the knowledge in this forum? And damn this whole forum is talking about missiles! yes yes the ones that Gallente race can put on only 2 ships. Also i am Gallente,got 16 hours untill i can fly Mega, but cos its crap i am loosing interest in this whole game! Yes i can train to fly Caldari BS, but i want to enjoy this game not to wait another damn month to be able to fly Caldari BS.....i had waited long enough for Mega which sucks...again. So basicaly in near future PvP are gona be in Caldari BS's only? I do agree that people doing good and shoting down Raven's or Scorpion's using Mega's but hey if i flew Raven probably expierenced player would shoot me down with any cruiser. And all this counterbalancing is doing my bollox:as caldari uses this and that we could use this and this,raven got xxxx cap but mega has xxxx so if you put this in you might win..... It aint no MATH class! this is game.... me kinda fedup reading player submited spreadsheets with comparison tools which make no sence to me [probably cos i am dumb?] well so what... just give dumb players like me big guns so we can do some shootin with gallente ships. Thank you all
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:45:00 -
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I 'll give you Pacman!
Good fun game!
Doesn't tax the ol' brain just one bit.
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Orion Thomas
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:49:00 -
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Why does everyone want to play a "massive multiplayer" game one on one?
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:55:00 -
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I don't know who you've been talking to, but gallente BSs are not crap, NO BS is crap ( not even the DOM ), there is however a lot of people that can't use em proper.  And there is no setup that can defeat all others, if you can defeat one setup there's a setup that's equally effective at defeating yours and so on and so on and so on. Rock paper scissors and all that. The complexity of EVEs combat system, is one of the best things about it ( thinking about it there's a hell of a lot thigns that I classify as one of the best things of EVE, the game rocks :D )
And if you end up not liking Gallente BSs you can always train for another race, EVE is great like that ( one of the best things...  )
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Balthamael
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:57:00 -
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I think you will be very satisfied with your Megathron. Its not a bad ship and equiped correctly its one of the deadliest battleships around (1 on 1). However is got its limits, mostly due to only haveing 4 medslots and a rather smal capacitator.
Ive fitted my Mega with 7 ion cannons and it rocks. So im happy with it. 
"The GM might tell you to jam it where the drives don't warp"
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Jet Max
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:58:00 -
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Orion thats because fleet battles are very rare.People look at how strong fleet is and if they know they will loose they wont fight and to spot if your fleet will loose its not hard. So most people go 1v1 thats where you are equal... well allmost.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.04.28 13:10:00 -
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Well, the Dominix is the worst battleship around. One of the ships has to be. And the Megathron is not best, either. Neither is crappy, however.
What they really lack is drone advantage, as there is no advantage to having 5500 m3 drone space at all, nor is it too impressive as most other races have ships with adequate (sp?) drone space.
The only real problem is that the Megathron is not best at it's designed role, very close combat, due to a few reasons. No other ship is designed specifically for close combat but, quite simply, a properly fitted Megathron will not beat a properly fitted Raven/Tempest due to a little issue the Megathron have with capacitor and speed.
Game is evolving, things change. Things will not stay the same. There is nothing accute about the Megathron, and nothing a little more powergrid will not fix for the Dominix.
Hopefully they'll boost drones, too, more than just nerf their ability to hit.
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Jet Max
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Posted - 2004.04.28 13:21:00 -
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Ithildin but check this out: the long range is thats whats all about here in this game.Look even wars we fight in real life are long ranged,we just bomb crap from enemy by using missiles,smart bombs and so on.You cant realy shoot down bomber using rifle can ya? so basically Gallente=Iraq, Caldari=Allied forces :[
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.04.28 13:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Jet Max
Ithildin but check this out: the long range is thats whats all about here in this game.Look even wars we fight in real life are long ranged,we just bomb crap from enemy by using missiles,smart bombs and so on.You cant realy shoot down bomber using rifle can ya? so basically Gallente=Iraq, Caldari=Allied forces :[
And Caldari lost the war.
Besides, it's a game. Therefore close range specialists should do much more damage just because they have to get close.
Oh, and smart bombs are about as dumb and indiscriminate as smartbombs it seems ;)
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Jet Max
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Posted - 2004.04.28 13:57:00 -
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Oh yeh forgot to say that Ithildin's comment on Gallente BS's is spot on. Well said Ithildin! in the meen time ill get my Mega and gona do some mining.
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Jet Max
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Posted - 2004.04.28 14:01:00 -
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"Therefore close range specialists should do much more damage just because they have to get close." You refering this to us Gallente=Iraq suicide bombers? :] hehe
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Renox
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Posted - 2004.04.28 14:07:00 -
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A Megatron can go toe to toe with any other BS in the game.
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Gaiam
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Posted - 2004.04.28 14:18:00 -
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there are no bad battleships, only bad pilots.
just out of curiousity, how old are you Jet Max?
if you want to play a "blow stuff up" game go play halo.
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Jet Max
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Posted - 2004.04.28 14:31:00 -
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Gaiam you will be suprised that i am 24! go on write your thoughts about me here now, cos i know why you asked that question, but you know what...i dont care.
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Tyrael Winterheart
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Posted - 2004.04.28 14:35:00 -
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Halo owns =\
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.04.28 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jet Max
Ithildin but check this out: the long range is thats whats all about here in this game.Look even wars we fight in real life are long ranged,we just bomb crap from enemy by using missiles,smart bombs and so on.You cant realy shoot down bomber using rifle can ya? so basically Gallente=Iraq, Caldari=Allied forces :[
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So most people go 1v1 thats where you are equal
Hardly, long range 1:1 means one guy runs and the other well, sits there thinking he won...
If you want to get a 1:1 kill you will _need_ to get into 20km (or even better 7.5 km) so you can scramble your opponent (note though your opponent usually has 2 or 3 warp core stabs (so should you btw) so you cant scramble him with 1 scrambler).
Also note the entire point of being at war with something, or wanting to destroy more then loosing is basicly putting all advantages to your side. Basicly making a fair fight not doable in general, since its far better to go with 1 or 2 others or a whole group.
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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.04.28 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Lentia on 28/04/2004 15:59:23
Jet,
Each ship has its advantages and disadvantages. Just try and mine with a Scorpion hehe.
The Megathron is a good all around ship.
Dont even think about fighting in a Megathron unless u have Gall BS to 4? (For the much needed damage bonus). You must also have L Hybrid to min of 4, and all the other gunnery to at least 4 also esp weapons upgragdes and trajec analysis.
For long range put on 2 sensor boosters, a tracking computer, 2 damage mods and with 425 rails you can easily be doing pretty good damage at over 120km. This is great for NPC BS and also good in fleet battles for support.
For short range you use large ions or combo or large neutron and medium neutron. At least 1 webber, mwd, other two mids up to you. For both setups you will need to armor tank which is tricky but easily done. YOu need both the armor and hull skill to 5 (some say 3 but it dont work), armor hardners, named 1600 plates, and L armor repair or at least a named med armor repair.
NO OTHER SHIP IN THE GAME DEALS OUT CLOSE RANGE DAMAGE LIKE A WELL EQUIPPED MEGATHRON!
Lentia
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Mikelangelo
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Posted - 2004.04.28 16:20:00 -
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Also i am Gallente,got 16 hours untill i can fly Mega, but cos its crap i am loosing interest in this whole game! Yes i can train to fly Caldari BS, but i want to enjoy this game not to wait another damn month to be able to fly Caldari BS.....i had waited long enough for Mega which sucks...again. So basicaly in near future PvP are gona be in Caldari BS's only?
Some constructive suggestions regarding the above....
1) DON'T believe everything you read. There is lots of whining on the forums.
2) NEVER ever believe a Caldari sitting in a Scorp or a Raven.
3) Try your own setups. Suggestions from the forums are nice, but you have to figure out what is best for you.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2004.04.28 16:30:00 -
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Gallente ships rock. Dominix is way to under rated. It has the mids of the Tempest, the lows of the Apoc/Mega/Typhoon, ample CPU, Decent Powergrid for its 6 High Slots, and Very good bonus. It can afford to use drones like suicide bombers and mount Ion or Neutrons and MWD with enuff mids and lows to keep it alive and running.
Its weekness is its looks. I have had 3 of them myself, and every other BS in the game except for Raven. I had 2 Megathrons and I liked it better than my apoc ( except when mining hehe )because it had more cpu.
Every BS in this game has a purpose and a role(s) and each has its achilles heal. The Domi can easily beat any other ship if the person knows how to load it out. Same goes for Scorpion... Typhoon... Tempest... etc.
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DeathBunny
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Posted - 2004.04.28 16:38:00 -
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Just to finish up what Kaylana Syi was saying.
Every ship can beat another. Poor pilot or great pilot, it doesn't matter. Theres just certain ships you hear more about then others. Some are more versatible then the rest. But doesn't mean the rest are "crap".
Fear The Bunny
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.04.28 19:18:00 -
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Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
dalman
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:05:00 -
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Complete nonsence.
Gallante battleships are the best for 1vs1
Gallante battleships are good for fleet combat
Megathron is tied with Apoc as best ship for NPC killing.
Gallante battleships are second (after Amarr) for mining.
 Gallante battleships are the best race "overall".
Yes, I usually fly a Raven myself.
Doesn't mean I haven't used a Dominix to kill a Raven 1vs1 though
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Zoneh
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:05:00 -
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If MegaThron is sooo crappy just tell me why did i loose my scorpion that had 8k shield and was a shield tanker to a Blasterthron... When a Blasterthron is at you at 10km youre dead no matter what skills you have..
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
Well, the Dominix is the worst battleship around.
COMPLETELY WRONG.
Some people try to use the domi in a way it's not supposed to be used though. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the ship
You are supposed to fit 6 dual heavy ion blasters and release 9-10 heavy drones.
That gives you a BIG damage output.
Then you have 5 medslots, 7 lowslots and LOTS of CPU and powergrid free to fit a kick as defence. Or whatever you want to fit.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jet Max
Ithildin but check this out: the long range is thats whats all about here in this game.Look even wars we fight in real life are long ranged,we just bomb crap from enemy by using missiles,smart bombs and so on.You cant realy shoot down bomber using rifle can ya? so basically Gallente=Iraq, Caldari=Allied forces :[
ROFLMAO.
1. This is a game. GAME != REAL LIFE
2. Why would you want to fight at long range? How are you EVER going to kill someone if you're not in range to scramble him?
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Outcastino
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Posted - 2004.04.28 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Outcastino on 28/04/2004 21:00:12
Originally by: Lentia
NO OTHER SHIP IN THE GAME DEALS OUT CLOSE RANGE DAMAGE LIKE A WELL EQUIPPED MEGATHRON!
You sure? ;)
Originally by: Zoneh
If MegaThron is sooo crappy just tell me why did i loose my scorpion that had 8k shield and was a shield tanker to a Blasterthron... When a Blasterthron is at you at 10km youre dead no matter what skills you have..
Because you cant tank :)
A GOOD tank ISNT destroyable by any single bs. But then again a good tank sacrifices a lot of everything else.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.04.28 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Outcastino
Edited by: Outcastino on 28/04/2004 21:00:12
Originally by: Lentia
NO OTHER SHIP IN THE GAME DEALS OUT CLOSE RANGE DAMAGE LIKE A WELL EQUIPPED MEGATHRON!
You sure? ;)
Originally by: Zoneh
If MegaThron is sooo crappy just tell me why did i loose my scorpion that had 8k shield and was a shield tanker to a Blasterthron... When a Blasterthron is at you at 10km youre dead no matter what skills you have..
Because you cant tank :)
A GOOD tank ISNT destroyable by any single bs. But then again a good tank sacrifices a lot of everything else.
I'd be quite interested in seeing that good tank setup of yours. Cause that's gotta be kick ass, just FYI a decent blasterthron can dish out around 300 DPS ( give or take a little, and that's against unhardened shields ) and that's without counting missiles and/or drones. That's quite the tank you've got there.
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XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.04.28 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: XpoHoc on 28/04/2004 22:14:42
Megathron = best damage dealer.
There are no bad ships and there are no "best" ships aswell.
I get tired saying it in every second thread on this forum.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.04.28 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: XpoHoc
Edited by: XpoHoc on 28/04/2004 22:14:42
Megathron = best damage dealer.
There are no bad ships and there are no "best" ships aswell.
I get tired saying it in every second thread on this forum.
It's semantics and point of view, mostly.
I see it as some ships need love more than others. Dominix is high on list of needing love right now, Megathron isn't.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.04.28 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
I'd be quite interested in seeing that good tank setup of yours. Cause that's gotta be kick ass, just FYI a decent blasterthron can dish out around 300 DPS ( give or take a little, and that's against unhardened shields ) and that's without counting missiles and/or drones. That's quite the tank you've got there.
1. A Dominix has NO PROBLEM AT ALL to tank that. 5 meds and 7 lows for cap rechargers, armor hardeners and armor repairers...
2. A megathron, with missiles and drones counted, can put out about 800 damage per second
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