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Erialor Godsent
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:03:00 -
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The 'documentation' for his issue was presented to him when he pressed Self Destruct, I believe. --
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Sabrin Kulu
Caldari Kismet Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:05:00 -
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To be fair; the self destruct button should actually change to 'cancel self destruct' after the self destruction sequence has been initiated. -----
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Astarte Nosferatu
Minmatar Canes Pugnaces
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:06:00 -
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Epic thread!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 07/05/2008 17:07:54
Originally by: Lubomir Penev Yup, but his point that the "documentation" is craptastic stands. Player Guide documenting the neolitic, Knowledgebase rife with errors...
I won't deny that in general, he's right. I'm still waiting for the wiki they promised us more than a year ago, for instance.
But in this particular case, he DID have ample info. He DID get a warning about self-destructing. That warning ALSO told him how to cancel it. He has no excuse.
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Feilamya
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Feilamya on 07/05/2008 17:12:09 Edited by: Feilamya on 07/05/2008 17:11:50 "Thank your for pressing the self-destruct button. The ship will self-destruct in 20 seconds. This is your last chance to press the cancellation button!" "Cancellation button?!?!?! Where is it?" "It must be here!" "out of order!!" "****! even in the future nothing works!!!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfhzZvkAo-U&feature=related
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Xioden Acap
Lightspeed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:14:00 -
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Doesn't the self destruct message show in the same set of message boxes as all other on-screen text? If there was anything going on it can be impossible to actually see the message.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Xioden Acap Doesn't the self destruct message show in the same set of message boxes as all other on-screen text? If there was anything going on it can be impossible to actually see the message.
Why would he eject when he's being engaged?
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Veldya
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:16:00 -
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I ignored the warning message when I went into low sec the first time and got my retriever blown up. You learn more from failure than you do from success. I have always been attentive whenever I leave high-sec, you would never make the same mistake again, had you not been a quitter.
It is a game, the money means nothing, you should never leave the station in a ship you can't afford to lose or easily replace.
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:17:00 -
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And here I was thinking this was another whine thread about some overtanekd ship you'd caught self-destructing to stick it to you. Silly me.
Svedge, it says on the warning pop up box that to cancel it you hit the button again. It gives you this nice box that says 'You Are About to BLOW UP YOUR OWN SHIP, do you want to continue?' If it wasn't there, you tried this earlier and disabled it (and should have read it then).
There's a reason the old vets still say "don't fly what you can't afford to lose". -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth |

Breaky Fitch
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:22:00 -
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I didn't know that 0.0 entrance systems were camped alot so I flew a freighter full of things into it and lost it all.. CCP plx give my stuff back...
I didn't know that shooting at another player in hisec would get me concorded so I shoot someone in my faction fitted navy raven and lost it all... CCP plx give my stuff back...
I didn't know that getting my pod popped would lose implants and went pvping in 0.0 with +5's and snakes and lost them all... CCP plx give my stuff back...
I pras putan and asploded my chipz, i dnt no dis wud hapn... CCP plx giev my thing back...
Ignorance is not a valid reason for reimbursment.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Originally by: Xioden Acap Doesn't the self destruct message show in the same set of message boxes as all other on-screen text? If there was anything going on it can be impossible to actually see the message.
Why would he eject when he's being engaged?
to give them a free ship and not get the insurance payout DUH!
oh and i was expecting a cnr or something and not a damn cov ops 
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jinx Barker My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules
That actually might not be so bad depending how bad you made your SO feel about it. Could be letting the SO make it up to you is well worth 5 billion ISK.
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Sally Bestonge
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:42:00 -
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all you have to do it try to blow yourself up again to make it stop you big sissy
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T I'm still waiting for the wiki they promised us more than a year ago, for instance.
But in this particular case, he DID have ample info. He DID get a warning about self-destructing. That warning ALSO told him how to cancel it. He has no excuse.
There was a Dev Blog recently soliciting for help with the EVE Wiki so presumably it is on its way.
As for the warning about self destruct yeah...hard to miss.
But let's assume he managed to miss it anyway being one of those people who can't be arsed to actually read.
In his position I think what would I likely do? Push a button, two minute countdown till I explode, no manual that describes self-destruct mechanics.
Maybe it is just me but the very first thing I would try is pressing that same button again. In RL when we flip a switch to turn something on we do not look elsewhere to turn it off. We flip that very same switch again. When I start my car by turning the ignition I do not pull out the manual or look in the boot to find the off switch. I just turn the ignition the other way. Works every time.
So, push button, bad timer starts. What to do to stop it?  -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge II
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does.
Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;)
Maybe it's because I'm an atheist, but I don't think they get reimbursed either. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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Florio
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sabrin Kulu To be fair; the self destruct button should actually change to 'cancel self destruct' after the self destruction sequence has been initiated.
OP has no excuses due to the popup warning message, but CCP should strive to make the interface as ergonomic as possible. So I agree with Sabrin's suggestion.
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spanky herman
Gulfonodi Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge II
Even the GMs in Anarchy Online was fairer in the understanding of mistakes.
While the lead paint chips are shiny and colorful, This is why you shouldn't eat them. The game mechanic you used did exactly what it was supposed to do, you did not read the notice it gave you when you initiated the action.
The GM's can reimburse on game issues when they have the logs and it is a fault with the game or code, they can't log or fix stupid.
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Svedge II
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jurgen Cartis And here I was thinking this was another whine thread about some overtanekd ship you'd caught self-destructing to stick it to you. Silly me.
Svedge, it says on the warning pop up box that to cancel it you hit the button again. It gives you this nice box that says 'You Are About to BLOW UP YOUR OWN SHIP, do you want to continue?' If it wasn't there, you tried this earlier and disabled it (and should have read it then).
There's a reason the old vets still say "don't fly what you can't afford to lose".
Its hard when you are tired and used to clicking OK on the eject pop up. I haven't seen what's inside the self destruct pop up, so how could I know?
Actually I can rebuy everything, I wouldn't have made a case of this if it was PvP or PvE.
To those who tell me to play WoW, f*** off, I hate WoW. Its just a month away time, I will be back after that time has passed.
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Phyrr
Minmatar The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:03:00 -
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can i have your jam?
Join us in the Exploration channel.
The odds on me being here are rather slim evolutionary speaking, yet in the infinite bounds of probability my being here is a certainty. |

ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:06:00 -
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This reminds me of a saying:
Trolling. When you do it right, nobody realises you've done anything at all. I'm pretty sure this guy is just trolling.  --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jinx Barker About a year and a half ago, I left my EVE client running and went for a smoke...
My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules - again this is a about a year and a half ago, maybe a bit more, so we are talking about 5 Billion or so worth of stuff - then my dear, dear, Sig. Other, figured out how to open up on a Concord Commander near the station.... you can guess the rest.
By the time I came back there was nothing left, people scavenged my stuff and my 5 Billion+ ISK ship an mods were gone...
I should have opened a petition, yes I should have, should have claimed a "Hacked" account....
Oh well....
Live and learn.
I think you are legally allowed to beat up your wife!  ==================================================
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Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:10:00 -
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Functionality documentation? CCP? HAHA. That's one thing that CCP really dropped the ball with. You would have though they'd have at least one person working on it... ------------------------------------------------- **** You're out of your mind!
**** Well that's between me and my mind. |

Mystri
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge I screwed up.
I expect GM's to wipe my arse, but it no worky.
/throw toys out of pram
Please don't go Mystri |

Ga'len
Wandering Druid of Tranquility
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:18:00 -
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Wow, uhm, yeah.
Darwin was SOO wrong, need evidence? The OP needs to look in a mirror.
It tells you that to cancel self destruct, to hit the self destruct again. It's a toggle control. You also have, what, 2 minutes before it goes off? Why didn't you just eject again?
Yeah, not too bright on the OP's part. This is almost as good as the lady who called in tech support one afternoon (this was years ago) to yell and scream at me for poisoning her kids. Yup, I was poisoning her children, giving them a preservative at such a young age. After all, the MSG light was lit up on her phone.
Yup, this is the one of the reasons I read the forums, for more and more examples of EPIC-FAIL.
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Queen Alma
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:22:00 -
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BTW, self destruct is canceled when you jump in another system, too.
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Absurd Smoothie
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:30:00 -
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hahahahahaha!
how the heck did you have 90 mil of stuff on a covops? my recons barely cost that much...
you could cancel your account, or you could just, timecard or god-forbid, mine, 90 mil isk in like a couple of days
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Christari Zuborov
Amarr Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:53:00 -
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Posts like this make me want to do something drastic.
I think that I'll have to sub an Alt account to counter his offset - just so he knows he won't be missed in the slightest.
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Stazzmo
Gallente The Grind
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Posted - 2008.05.07 19:04:00 -
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Wow Svedge. You are what I would consider a sucky customer. I suggest you go to www.customerssuck.com to read about more people who act and think like you do.
Look, if the server screwed up, then its CCP's fault. YOU clicked on the wrong thing, how could your carelessness possibly be someone else's fault?
Dude, you screwed up, get over it. I dream of electric sheep. |

Havohej
Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.05.07 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Svedge II
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does.
Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;)
Yeah. They don't get THEIR ship back, either.
Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
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Rhak Amharr
Minmatar Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.05.07 19:14:00 -
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It's true, I tried to engage a flashy Megathron on a gate in my brandnew Apotheosis, only to find out that all modules are hidden. Of course, I was killed, and, due to being insanely slow reacting, podded. I petitioned it, as it was clearly a bug that no modules were shown, but they won't reimburse my ship or implants without giving a reason except "lol".
I think I'm gonna quit too.
Rhak
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