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Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:22:00 - [121] Originally by: Jinx Barker My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules - again this is a about a year and a half ago, maybe a bit more, so we are talking about 5 Billion or so worth of stuff - then my dear, dear, Sig. Other, figured out how to open up on a Concord Commander near the station.... you can guess the rest. The question is, are you still with this person?
Misanth The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:42:00 - [122] You have my sympathy. Item value is poo, but that's not the matter. The real issue is that the self-destruction option is really close to another option commonly used. I been jumping in/out of station moving things last few days and expressed my concern on this matter recently: "almost self-destructed alot of times now, really poor position". And like you, I never knew how to cancel it. Somehere here said it's just to self-destruct again, and that that information is given when you self-destruct in the first place? Well, I blew up quite a few ships and a couple of pods, and I never seen that message. That's when I deliberately blew up my stuff. I wonder how someone that accidently selfdestructed would see that. The GM might've been a bit harsh, expecting your things back is a bit borderline, but what CCP really needs to do is to fix the bloody useless UI in this game. It's far from logical, menu browsing keep 'resetting' or accidently kicking off too early/wrong, etc. It's very sensitive, and poor positioned. All menu choices, overload buttons, everything minimum size and positioned next to things you actually do use all the time. In that sense CCP really need to get a grip. I can't believe I say this but.. the UI was easier to use and less messy in 2005 than it is now. Some development isn't for the better.. Best game on the market, worst UI.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:47:00 - [123] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 08/05/2008 02:51:27 Originally by: Jinx Barker About a year and a half ago, I left my EVE client running and went for a smoke... My dear Sig. Other, decided that it might be fun to undock, in my Rattlesnake, fully fitted with Gis-X modules - again this is a about a year and a half ago, maybe a bit more, so we are talking about 5 Billion or so worth of stuff - then my dear, dear, Sig. Other, figured out how to open up on a Concord Commander near the station.... you can guess the rest. By the time I came back there was nothing left, people scavenged my stuff and my 5 Billion+ ISK ship an mods were gone... I should have opened a petition, yes I should have, should have claimed a "Hacked" account.... Oh well.... Live and learn. HAHA oh wow edit: and the OP of the thread gets a stock "lol." response for lameness.
Johli Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.08 02:48:00 - [124] Well, now that I think about it... 1 month break = $15 less for CCP Which potentially means several less cups of coffee for CCP gone, which leads to cranky devs, which means EVE will failure cascade because the devs will be too busy throwing tantrums to fix anything. Congrats, you (potentially) killed EVE! Whine fulfilled, can we go home now?
Varopriest Minmatar	Posted - 2008.05.08 04:22:00 - [125] Anyone ever think that the Devs intentionally designed this way? Picture two of them talking: Dev 1 "Hey do you think we should make the self destruct screen different from the eject screen?" Dev 2 "Why would we need to spend time on that?" Dev 1 "Well to make sure someone doesn't blow up his ship accidentally." Dev 2 "Are you joking that would be funny! Plus we could just chalk it up to natural selection at its finest!" Remember: "That which does not kill you, makes you giggle. And tends to change your native language to Smackinese."
Dromidas Shadowmoon Minmatar 54th Knights Templar THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 04:34:00 - [126] I think any time anyone does anything they should be forced to type in a text displayed on screen, all hidden like rapidshare's anti-spam ones. That way it not only prevents user negligence AND accidental concordings, but it also helps stop macro miners. F1 Are you Sure you want to activate your Gun in module slot 1? Type in the letters shown. -F/~G~''[BG\\X>>> F2 Are you Sure you want to activate your Gun in module slot 2? Type in the letters shown. (&R##U#!@S.:'U~%#R=E^?+ ..etc.. _______________________________________________ Minmatar will always go faster than you, get over it.*
Pan Crastus Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.08 04:39:00 - [127] look at all the morons who pretend that the EVE UI is completely usable just in order to be able to flame someone on the forums ... To the OP: yes, EVE is full of that kind of crap, most of us are used to it by now (Item Database update anyone btw.?). The community you are seeing here is partly responsible for it not getting fixed - instead of acknowledging problems and being constructive, it takes every opportunity to troll other players. EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
Dromidas Shadowmoon Minmatar 54th Knights Templar THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 04:50:00 - [128] Edited by: Dromidas Shadowmoon on 08/05/2008 04:52:00 Originally by: Pan Crastus look at all the morons who pretend that the EVE UI is completely usable just in order to be able to flame someone on the forums ... To the OP: yes, EVE is full of that kind of crap, most of us are used to it by now (Item Database update anyone btw.?). The community you are seeing here is partly responsible for it not getting fixed - instead of acknowledging problems and being constructive, it takes every opportunity to troll other players. Theres no such thing as a perfect UI, of course eves could use improvement. But thats no reason to justify whining so much over laziness, I can't remember how many times that little popup, that everyone else apparently ignores, has saved my ship :P The word layout is very different, it's like mistaking a 5 dollar for a 50, sure they're the same size, same color even, but the whole layout is changed for the most part. The only thing they could do is color the box differenly for the illiterate, but that would neglect the colour blind, maybe they should make it a different shape, like a stop sign or a hazard sign. But why stop there, lets just have eve voice talk to you, incase you're blind. But then we'd be leaving out helen keller, how about we have a mobile usb launcher shoot 1 nerf missile at the user for eject, and 2 the user for self destruct. _______________________________________________ Minmatar will always go faster than you, get over it.
Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:03:00 - [129] Originally by: Pan Crastus look at all the morons who pretend that the EVE UI is completely usable just in order to be able to flame someone on the forums ... To the OP: yes, EVE is full of that kind of crap, most of us are used to it by now (Item Database update anyone btw.?). The community you are seeing here is partly responsible for it not getting fixed - instead of acknowledging problems and being constructive, it takes every opportunity to troll other players. There are other places in the forums where the UI is beeing constructively criticized. I think most people do not pretend that the UI is flawless, maybe you are pretending that the OP is. This thread is not a good place to talk in a constructive manner because the OP wasn't constructive in the first place and so flaming is what's happening here. And by pointing with the finger at others it will not get any better, how can you expect people acknowledging problems and being constructive after reading the OP's statements?
waferzankko Caldari Bears Inc Tenth Legion	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:15:00 - [130] can i have ur stuff?
PsychoBones Sons of Plunder. Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:29:00 - [131] CBA to wade through 5 pages to see if someone posted this already, but... Quote: Are Your Sure? If you self-destruct your ship you will lose it! Are you sure you want to initiate the 2 minute self-destruct sequence? To cancel a self-destruct sequence you should select self-destruct again (if any of your ships is already self destructing this will cancel it). That is a pop up that comes up when you select self desctruct. You then have to hit 'YES' for the self destruct to actually take place. Originally by: Svedge Guys, I'm a ***** moron and don't read before I click it, therefor, it's poor customer service I'd ask for your stuff, but ****** might be contagious. ________________________________________
Lamic Tarvalla Gallente Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.05.08 05:53:00 - [132] I can't remember, but I think you have a "Do you really want to push that red button" warning when you do a self destruct. Not hard to say to yourself "Umm... this may not be a good idea". Kind of like when you delete files in your computer and it ask you, "Do you really want to delete this file?" It's like a second chance. Say No.
Kinomoto Sakura Amarr FW Scuad Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:07:00 - [133] yay!! Darwin hard at work ---------------- Game The World.
Kev Hunter	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:08:00 - [134] Don't worry CCP. I just bought a 3rd account a few days back. Your loss has been compensated!
Natsuki Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.08 06:25:00 - [135] Originally by: Svedge Edited by: Svedge on 07/05/2008 16:32:16 Quote: "Subscription successfully canceled" Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended5/26/2008 This the result of a Senior GM's ruleriding. There is something called being fair, but this is far for that. My subscription cancel message: I managed somehow to do a self-destruct instead of eject, to that I lost a CovOps, 2x 5mil rigs and a Sisters Scanprobe Launcher + several other modules and scan probes, about a total cost of 90mil isk. There are no information about how to cancel a self-destruct on the entire site and I didn't see ingame notice about it either. GM XXXXX won't give me the stuff back, so I have no other choice than to cancel my subscription for a month to clearly show you what my opinion about this matter is. I have lost something due to bad customer service and customer understanding, so this will in end be your loss too. HAHAHAHAHA. don't bother coming back. ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
Genghis Kitty Hello Kitty Online Adventurers	Posted - 2008.05.08 07:38:00 - [136] S'funny, usually people coming onto the forums to threaten to close their accounts usually gets such a positive, warm and caring response!
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:44:00 - [137] Originally by: Kur'Dekaija You little baby, Ive lost more miss typing zeros in Jita when putting up sell orders :P paying few hundred mill in taxes is so much fun. And Im still here few years later and in way better position. So suck it up and keep playing. Yeah. Coupla years ago I put up something like 20 mega beams for 150mil each on behalf of my corp. I left them up there for a while on the off-chance but no one bit. Ended up reimbursing the corp for the tax. And then there was the time I sat waiting to log on to join a convoy heading back into 0.0. Half an hour spent staring at the login screen and I never noticed that I wasn't in the system I thought I was. Strike one Apoc with a cargo hold full of goodies and at a guess a 10mil clone. That was a couple of years ago and I'm still here. Guess I don't fail as bad as the OP. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.05.08 08:46:00 - [138] Originally by: Lt Angus
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:24:00 - [139] My sig says it all. You canceled because either you misread the core design of EVE stating that mistakes in EVE should be costly, or you feel that customer support should reimburse accidentally destroyed items even when the game revolves around accidents being part of the risk. Enjoy a game with fewer consequences to playing carelessly. Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.
Serge Tahlon Gallente Templars of Space Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:40:00 - [140] i have to say though, the right click menu options are stupidly close together. eject, selfdestruct, enter force field pass ... especially in laggy situation.
Riesia Altruism. Malice.	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:45:00 - [141] Edited by: Riesia on 08/05/2008 09:46:19 All I can say is lol Its like the OP putting a noose round his neck, jumping off a ledge then suing the rope company for not supplying instructions on how not to hang your self. Actually its even worse than that because the "how to get out of hanging" instructions were given to him except he didn't bother to read them because the writing wasn't good enough for him. Classic, when you leave I bet the average IQ of the player base rises.
Julian Lynq	Posted - 2008.05.08 09:59:00 - [142] is this a joke threat ?
Face Palmer Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 10:45:00 - [143]
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.05.08 10:53:00 - [144] Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Svedge II Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) And those same pilots will then run to the plane constructor and blame them for their errors, much like you do, right.... Yeah, and then the plane constructors ressurect them. Right? Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
OneSock Crown Industries space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:03:00 - [145] 1stly, 2ndly, Devils advocate for a moment, but how is the OPs error any different from a noob getting himself concorded, if the noob gets an insurance payment, shouldn't the OP get his stuff back too ?
Zaphod Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:07:00 - [146] Its threads like these that make me think fondly of our Community and the way we jump violently on prats who whine and cancel accounts. keep up the good work guys
Nova Tiempo	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:15:00 - [147] tssk... tssk... BWAHAHAHAHA!!! You selfdestructed yourself. AND then didnt pay atention to the GIANT WARNING MESSAGE that tells you how to abort. AND then didnt ask anyone else. OR loggofskied. OR docked. OR changed system. THEN you go and insult the quailty of CCPs service for not giving you back your stuff. So long, and dont let the cluster door hit you on the way out.
Larg Kellein Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:22:00 - [148] Originally by: Svedge II Originally by: Thanos Draicon EVE is not a game that caters or tolerates the stupid. You should find a game that does. Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) Those don't get reimbursed either.
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:30:00 - [149] Originally by: OneSock 2ndly, Devils advocate for a moment, but how is the OPs error any different from a noob getting himself concorded, if the noob gets an insurance payment, shouldn't the OP get his stuff back too ? AFAIK you also get insurance for self destructing a ship. They get the same kind of compensation as a noob for doing something stupid, the own loss part is simply higher because OP choose to do the stupid thing with a T2 ship full of goodies. The noob doesn't get his security status restored by a GM though. So why should GM's interfere with this? Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:32:00 - [150] Originally by: Larg Kellein Originally by: Svedge II Tell that to highly educated pilots IRL who manages to crash a jumbo full of people due to human errors. ;) Those don't get reimbursed either. You win this thread. /thread Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.

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